So what was the big deal of removing Stopping Power and Juggernaut? One made your weapons more powerful the other made you harder to kill, right? Basically the are a counter to one another and occupied the same slot. What was the problem then? I'd assume it was the combination of the perks with certain weapons/techniques that made them OP. Wouldn't adding these perks back into the same slot as Ghost/Assassin solve a lot of problems or would it just complicate things more?
The issue was that Stopping Power and Juggernaut were hands-down the only perks that mattered, and they're boring: you can kill with 1 less bullet, or you can survive 1 extra bullet, basically. And that's really powerful. Compared to them, even UAV Jammer / Camouflage / Cold Blooded were considered second-tier. Removing them allowed for more diverse playstyles. We've got a lot of Ghosts / Assassins now, but we've also got a ton of people using Hardline, Scavenger, Flak Jacket, etc: it's not just Stopping Power all day erry day, and that's been a good move for the series, as far as I'm concerned. Adding them back in would certainly make Ghost / Assassin less prevalent, but it would also automatically become the perk that everyone uses, because it's that good. None of the other options would matter.
So what was the big deal of removing Stopping Power and Juggernaut? One made your weapons more powerful the other made you harder to kill, right? Basically the are a counter to one another and occupied the same slot. What was the problem then? I'd assume it was the combination of the perks with certain weapons/techniques that made them OP. Wouldn't adding these perks back into the same slot as Ghost/Assassin solve a lot of problems or would it just complicate things more?
The issue was that Stopping Power and Juggernaut were hands-down the only perks that mattered, and they're boring: you can kill with 1 less bullet, or you can survive 1 extra bullet, basically. And that's really powerful. Compared to them, even UAV Jammer / Camouflage / Cold Blooded were considered second-tier. Removing them allowed for more diverse playstyles. We've got a lot of Ghosts / Assassins now, but we've also got a ton of people using Hardline, Scavenger, Flak Jacket, etc: it's not just Stopping Power all day erry day, and that's been a good move for the series, as far as I'm concerned. Adding them back in would certainly make Ghost / Assassin less prevalent, but it would also automatically become the perk that everyone uses, because it's that good. None of the other options would matter.
I can't complain less about Ghost or Assassin. When people using them kill me I blame that perk even if it didn't give them an advantage because there are no spy planes. It's something that's ingrained into my personality now.
I like both the series, but I'm definitely better at Black Ops than in the Modern Warfare series. Despite MW being faster and the kill streaks being more powerful I consistently scored higher kills in Blops and at some point I would consider it a weak game if I got under 40 kills. It could still be a good game, but 40 was an average and I didn't get excited about a high kill count until it hit in the 55 area.
In MW I can't put up high kill totals. My highest is somewhere in the range of 44 and I'm lucky to get into the 30s. That's been more of a problem in MW3 than MW2, but I never put up huge numbers in that one either.
I actually want to try a little bit of World at War again, since we've been getting nostalgic for the past lately. I'd probably get quickly irritated by bouncing betties, though. Those things were awful. But I thought it was a fine game when you found a hack-free lobby.
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I actually want to try a little bit of World at War again, since we've been getting nostalgic for the past lately. I'd probably get quickly irritated by bouncing betties, though. Those things were awful. But I thought it was a fine game when you found a hack-free lobby.
It's actually pretty fun, but MP40 Drum Mags Juggernaut is so far and away the best setup that it's really frustrating to use anything else. Most of the assault rifles are semi-auto, which is fine, but when the alternative is an SMG that can drop someone in two rounds without Stopping Power, and can fire continuously for 10+ seconds without needing to be reloaded, you've pretty clearly got a balancing issue on your hands.
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I'm with Magell on this, except my numbers aren't as high. I don't know what it is but I do a hell of a lot better in Blops then I do in MW3.
Everybody was dropping quads today it was pretty sweet. Many predator missiles, my exploding cars, and more great times to be had.
I continued my trend of the only Type 95 I can do well with is one I pick up off the ground and got a nice triple while spawn trapping them on Interchange.
To counter that I kept picking up guns with ACOGs on them. Why would you put an ACOG on a UMP or the SCAR. Some people.
1) Copy MW2
2) Remove OMA refilling tubes
3) Add new maps
4) Add new killstreaks
5) Last stand is negated by headshots, explosives, and shotguns
Every single one of us would run out and buy that game and love it.
Gimme a crossbow and I'm in.
Oh, and if it had MW2's smoothness. Not this "we made things fairer by crippling everyone with a horrific lag compensation system that is compensating because it can't really".
You see...iRevert gets it.
Problem with the series is that they're trying to hard to balance it.
Hell, the reason MW3 has such shitty maps is because they don't want to have "choke" points. Which is dumb as hell. I like having choke points and superior positions...it makes it easier to find people to kill because everyone is going to be going to them.
They put in lag compensation for the sake of "fairness" and all that means is the game is even more bullshit. Along with the spawn system still being horrible.
They made explosives shitty when all they had to do was remove one perk...a perk they removed anyway.
MW2 was fun because everything was just balls to the wall ludicrous. And...if it wasn't for OMA/DC it would be hands down the best one in the series, imo.
*Note: It still is the best one in the series, imo, just not hands down.
1) Copy MW2
2) Remove OMA refilling tubes
3) Add new maps
4) Add new killstreaks
5) Last stand is negated by headshots, explosives, and shotguns
Every single one of us would run out and buy that game and love it.
Gimme a crossbow and I'm in.
Oh, and if it had MW2's smoothness. Not this "we made things fairer by crippling everyone with a horrific lag compensation system that is compensating because it can't really".
You see...iRevert gets it.
Problem with the series is that they're trying to hard to balance it.
Hell, the reason MW3 has such shitty maps is because they don't want to have "choke" points. Which is dumb as hell. I like having choke points and superior positions...it makes it easier to find people to kill because everyone is going to be going to them.
They put in lag compensation for the sake of "fairness" and all that means is the game is even more bullshit. Along with the spawn system still being horrible.
MW2 was fun because everything was just balls to the wall ludicrous. And...if it wasn't for OMA/DC it would be hands down the best one in the series, imo.
*Note: It still is the best one in the series, imo, just not hands down.
Correction MW2 was balanced because everything was overpowered.
There isn't one gun that isn't more batshit crazy then any of the others.
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Everybody was dropping quads today it was pretty sweet. Many predator missiles, my exploding cars, and more great times to be had.
I continued my trend of the only Type 95 I can do well with is one I pick up off the ground and got a nice triple while spawn trapping them on Interchange.
To counter that I kept picking up guns with ACOGs on them. Why would you put an ACOG on a UMP or the SCAR. Some people.
If they're like me, it's to fill bars and get dem gold guns.
Speaking of, I tried to use the P90 over the pp90m1 for my run and gun specialist build.... the P90 just sucks compared to the pp90.
Everybody was dropping quads today it was pretty sweet. Many predator missiles, my exploding cars, and more great times to be had.
I continued my trend of the only Type 95 I can do well with is one I pick up off the ground and got a nice triple while spawn trapping them on Interchange.
To counter that I kept picking up guns with ACOGs on them. Why would you put an ACOG on a UMP or the SCAR. Some people.
If they're like me, it's to fill bars and get dem gold guns.
Speaking of, I tried to use the P90 over the pp90m1 for my run and gun specialist build.... the P90 just sucks compared to the pp90.
Well yeah. It only has one 'P'.
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So I've recently been playing a lot of MW2 and probably some 3 soon on the 360, but it's only fun for so long by yourself.. So I was wondering if I get in some games with you guys. I am... decent at playing and usually stay positive (both points wise and emotionally), but I'm definitely not amazing.
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I like both the series, but I'm definitely better at Black Ops than in the Modern Warfare series. Despite MW being faster and the kill streaks being more powerful I consistently scored higher kills in Blops and at some point I would consider it a weak game if I got under 40 kills. It could still be a good game, but 40 was an average and I didn't get excited about a high kill count until it hit in the 55 area.
In MW I can't put up high kill totals. My highest is somewhere in the range of 44 and I'm lucky to get into the 30s. That's been more of a problem in MW3 than MW2, but I never put up huge numbers in that one either.
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It's actually pretty fun, but MP40 Drum Mags Juggernaut is so far and away the best setup that it's really frustrating to use anything else. Most of the assault rifles are semi-auto, which is fine, but when the alternative is an SMG that can drop someone in two rounds without Stopping Power, and can fire continuously for 10+ seconds without needing to be reloaded, you've pretty clearly got a balancing issue on your hands.
Can't hear you over the sound of my Double Tap MG42 (until I run out of ammo).
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I continued my trend of the only Type 95 I can do well with is one I pick up off the ground and got a nice triple while spawn trapping them on Interchange.
To counter that I kept picking up guns with ACOGs on them. Why would you put an ACOG on a UMP or the SCAR. Some people.
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Also, I'll be on later today.
You see...iRevert gets it.
Problem with the series is that they're trying to hard to balance it.
Hell, the reason MW3 has such shitty maps is because they don't want to have "choke" points. Which is dumb as hell. I like having choke points and superior positions...it makes it easier to find people to kill because everyone is going to be going to them.
They put in lag compensation for the sake of "fairness" and all that means is the game is even more bullshit. Along with the spawn system still being horrible.
They made explosives shitty when all they had to do was remove one perk...a perk they removed anyway.
MW2 was fun because everything was just balls to the wall ludicrous. And...if it wasn't for OMA/DC it would be hands down the best one in the series, imo.
*Note: It still is the best one in the series, imo, just not hands down.
Correction MW2 was balanced because everything was overpowered.
There isn't one gun that isn't more batshit crazy then any of the others.
"When everything is overpowered...nothing is."
Well harriers were overpowered.
You know you can still die while doing the stand still bug?
I mean, it was very rare, but it would actuallu hit yyou once in a dozen tries.
Kinda like an attack chopper.
If they're like me, it's to fill bars and get dem gold guns.
Speaking of, I tried to use the P90 over the pp90m1 for my run and gun specialist build.... the P90 just sucks compared to the pp90.
Well yeah. It only has one 'P'.
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE
i dunno i'm pretty bored, i might get on
10 whole internet fun bucks that a spinning burning helicopter is going to appear.
If I had to guess, Russians. Going with a wild theory here.
It's still akward if you're socially retarded.
Can't wait till next time When I get to meet that persian motherfucker and confront him, Jerry Springer style, about my mocha flavored baby.
No different than a conference. Unless the conference is about S&M.
gonna miss 'im
My GT is : DeviousRakun, I can't wait to hopefully shoot mans with you guys.
You forgot the part about him loving his fart box tongue punched whilst wearing a furry costume with a pink tutu in a circus themed bedroom.
Because you know the sawdust on the floor makes clean up easier...
If your not damaged goods then you won't fit in around here.
I'm totally in the dark here since I can never play with you guys.