I just checked out the last bunch of strips that are on funnywebcomic and am not opposed to that person making money through it if they can. Living's expensive, peoples, gotta get that bread right.
I just checked out the last bunch of strips that are on funnywebcomic and am not opposed to that person making money through it if they can. Living's expensive, peoples, gotta get that bread right.
You are a much more lenient soul than I, Mr. Firman.
It's like, I get the frustration from observing a lack of improvement, but the person is still doing work, and being creative can sure get taxing, let alone trying to turn it into a personal business.
If there was a regular employee that served me for ten years at a subway shop and they didn't even do that good a job, but they did it, I wouldn't wish that they earn no money at all. That's pretty cruel.
Of course I do a lot of projecting in this thread. And struggle with financial stuff. I can't even muster the courage or smarts to attempt business yet (except for one remarkable failure) so I respect a webcomicker that is promoting at cons, selling their shit, and trying to make a go of it.
Edit: You might have to adjust in your imagination the subway shop scenario to compensate for my poor analogy skills.
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I always sound so judgmental in this thread.
I'm writing a book about how Hitler started out as an artist and became evil after people made fun of his comics.
Nah, it's just that after getting paid last night, taking care of outstanding bills and putting away savings for the upcoming new computer, I can walk a bunch of cans over to Whole Foods for recycle deposits and increase my spending money for the next couple weeks by 25%.
It's like, I get the frustration from observing a lack of improvement, but the person is still doing work, and being creative can sure get taxing, let alone trying to turn it into a personal business.
If there was a regular employee that served me for ten years at a subway shop and they didn't even do that good a job, but they did it, I wouldn't wish that they earn no money at all. That's pretty cruel.
Of course I do a lot of projecting in this thread. And struggle with financial stuff. I can't even muster the courage or smarts to attempt business yet (except for one remarkable failure) so I respect a webcomicker that is promoting at cons, selling their shit, and trying to make a go of it.
Edit: You might have to adjust in your imagination the subway shop scenario to compensate for my poor analogy skills.
I'm kind of torn on this one, to be honest.
On the one hand, I want to condemn Cameron Davis, because it annoys me to no end that this guy has spent ten years dwelling in his comfortable little creative rut, while there are artists out there that struggle day in and day out to improve their craft, and he thinks that he has the same license as people like you and Ronnie - people who actively try to improve their work - to try and make money off of his incredibly lackluster work. On the other hand, this is the same argument I made in regards to the Order of the Stick kickstarter, and people yelled at me because I was trying to dictate what art was, as well as which sort of artists have the "right" to experience any sort of success, creatively or financially, and I don't think anybody should have any level of control over either of those things, since art and taste in art are such fluid concepts.
So, really, while I want to say that Cameron Davis is a shitheel, I'm not sure if I should, because I don't want to fall into the same fallacy that I did when I said Rich Burlew didn't deserve one million dollars to make an OotS book.
I dunno. Should I be irked? Shouldn't I? I have no idea.
TL;DR: Can I say that Cameron Davis deserves no measure of success? Or would that be the same as when I said that Rich Burlew deserved no measure of success?
Guys, help, I am trying to be reasonable and edifying in regards to webcomics, save me before I start saying that Tim Buckley probably isn't a horse fucker.
TL;DR: Can I say that Cameron Davis deserves no measure of success? Or would that be the same as when I said that Rich Burlew deserved no measure of success?
Saying someone doesn't "deserve" something is a pretty deep rabbit hole to go down.
The only person in the webcrumblics business who definitely deserves vitriol on that scale is Ryan Sohmer. And maybe Tim Buckley.
I'm pretty terrible at coming up with definite positions. I just try to consider the different angles and then project my own struggles and insecurities and then make a poop joke and that's me.
The more I think about it the more I realize I'm just an asshole. When my dad is going on some conservative style rant I'll challenge him with opposing arguments, but do the same for my mom when she does the liberal thing. I guess art and comics I actually have an investment of opinion in because of personal experience, so I'm not totally devil advocating in this thread. But deep down I don't really care about Cameron Davis, who I just learned about on this page.
Speaking of the devil, did you know that Lucifer was exiled from Our Father's Kingdom for making fun of God's webcomic?
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Tripped and his sense of humor fell out?
i don't know, i couldn't make myself look at it for more than a second
the dude's not an artist and yet he's sitting there selling commissions cool as you please
unlike the japanese people he fetishizes
The difference is that you don't try to sell dreck that you've spent ten years not improving.
[edit] given the choice i'd opt for assisted suicide though
Which is why I'm going to try to scrounge up a couple bagfuls of cans and bottles tonight in order to have enough money for late-night kimchi and tea.
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You are a much more lenient soul than I, Mr. Firman.
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If there was a regular employee that served me for ten years at a subway shop and they didn't even do that good a job, but they did it, I wouldn't wish that they earn no money at all. That's pretty cruel.
Of course I do a lot of projecting in this thread. And struggle with financial stuff. I can't even muster the courage or smarts to attempt business yet (except for one remarkable failure) so I respect a webcomicker that is promoting at cons, selling their shit, and trying to make a go of it.
Edit: You might have to adjust in your imagination the subway shop scenario to compensate for my poor analogy skills.
You think he'd be here if he could do that?
ME and You and Everyone We Know
is like....
SE++
in film form
He is not trying very hard. You writing that post was trying harder at being an artist.
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@SabreMau I feel like I may have accidentally said something to give offense here.
If that's the case, I apologize.
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Nope, absolutely no way is anything going to go wrong here
I'm sure that guy will die in the desert and never be seen again
I'm writing a book about how Hitler started out as an artist and became evil after people made fun of his comics.
I'm kind of torn on this one, to be honest.
On the one hand, I want to condemn Cameron Davis, because it annoys me to no end that this guy has spent ten years dwelling in his comfortable little creative rut, while there are artists out there that struggle day in and day out to improve their craft, and he thinks that he has the same license as people like you and Ronnie - people who actively try to improve their work - to try and make money off of his incredibly lackluster work. On the other hand, this is the same argument I made in regards to the Order of the Stick kickstarter, and people yelled at me because I was trying to dictate what art was, as well as which sort of artists have the "right" to experience any sort of success, creatively or financially, and I don't think anybody should have any level of control over either of those things, since art and taste in art are such fluid concepts.
So, really, while I want to say that Cameron Davis is a shitheel, I'm not sure if I should, because I don't want to fall into the same fallacy that I did when I said Rich Burlew didn't deserve one million dollars to make an OotS book.
I dunno. Should I be irked? Shouldn't I? I have no idea.
don't you ever fucking insult me like this again or i'll cut you down where you stand
Oh please
you most of all
oghullk I will snuff your life out in a heartbeat if you keep this up
it is not cool
not cool at all
Man, you trippin'
Saying someone doesn't "deserve" something is a pretty deep rabbit hole to go down.
The only person in the webcrumblics business who definitely deserves vitriol on that scale is Ryan Sohmer. And maybe Tim Buckley.
The more I think about it the more I realize I'm just an asshole. When my dad is going on some conservative style rant I'll challenge him with opposing arguments, but do the same for my mom when she does the liberal thing. I guess art and comics I actually have an investment of opinion in because of personal experience, so I'm not totally devil advocating in this thread. But deep down I don't really care about Cameron Davis, who I just learned about on this page.
Speaking of the devil, did you know that Lucifer was exiled from Our Father's Kingdom for making fun of God's webcomic?