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  • Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    People hate Whedon because apparently he's a racist rapist; http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html

    Seen a couple complaints about how snarky some characters are in this, how everyone always has a retort, that sort of thing. But I only really noticed it with Tony - and that's always been a big part of his character, so eh.

    That is one heck of an article.

    I've never actually watched Firefly, but I find it very troublesome when a person's feminism is so deeply tied to sex-negativity, as it appears to do with that writer.

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    "Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
  • GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    I don't like how he has killed characters in the past just to push the story forward or make the characters react to something.

    Hell he even did it when he was brought in to work on Speed, with Jeff Daniels' character!

  • Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    I appear to be turning into a person who wants everyone to have lots of fun happy healthy sex and also have lots of fun happy healthy endings where everybody hugs except the bad guy

    Who eventually finds fun happy healthy sex and hugs, too

    Now if you excuse me I am going to go watch The Goonies

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    "Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    SUPER-MOVIE-SPOILER
    Let's take a moment to honor the greatest superhero

    His first name was Agent
    May Thor rest his soul
    :cry:

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  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    the whole concept of Cap seems like the most ridiculous patriotic bullshit until you actually sit down and read some of his comics and then it turns out to be great

    the secret is, he's actually not that patriotic? like he's proud of america and he believes in what it stands but he would be the first to admit that the country's got problems and you could have a very reasonable conversation with him on the subject

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    I appear to be turning into a person who wants everyone to have lots of fun happy healthy sex and also have lots of fun happy healthy endings where everybody hugs except the bad guy

    Who eventually finds fun happy healthy sex and hugs, too

    Now if you excuse me I am going to go watch The Goonies

    hel- no wait don't go

  • Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    Come on over Anti

    We watchin' Goonies up in here

    Also bring me a water I'm really thirsty

    Eyebrow waggle optional

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  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Hah, just remembered, that thing that got speculated on a while back got no mention;
    War Machine. I get his omission, wanna focus on the core group, and that's fine. But why no name drop or a quick "he's off somewhere saving the world some other place" given that he's a freebie extra Iron Man, an extra 'big guy' to fight.

    Glad Pepper and Jarvis were in though - Pepper missing Tony's call was actually pretty emotional.

    Oh brilliant
  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Seeing this film in IMAX was the greatest movie experience in my entire life

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    Come on over Anti

    We watchin' Goonies up in here

    Also bring me a water I'm really thirsty

    Eyebrow waggle optional
    yes'm

  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    I'm a sucker for happy endings

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  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Seeing this film in IMAX was the greatest movie experience in my entire life

    I want a wallpaper of the scene
    where Thor is standing in the field summoning a thunderstorm

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  • Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    People hate Whedon because apparently he's a racist rapist; http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html

    Seen a couple complaints about how snarky some characters are in this, how everyone always has a retort, that sort of thing. But I only really noticed it with Tony - and that's always been a big part of his character, so eh.
    I have become increasingly interested in examining Joss Whedon’s work from a feminist perspective since I had a conversation with another lesbian feminist sister at the International Feminist Summit about whether Joss was a feminist.

    this is an amazing sentence

  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    Hah, just remembered, that thing that got speculated on a while back got no mention;
    War Machine. I get his omission, wanna focus on the core group, and that's fine. But why no name drop or a quick "he's off somewhere saving the world some other place" given that he's a freebie extra Iron Man, an extra 'big guy' to fight.

    Glad Pepper and Jarvis were in though - Pepper missing Tony's call was actually pretty emotional.

    Why was her phone even on?

  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
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  • Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    That is one heck of an article.

    I've never actually watched Firefly, but I find it very troublesome when a person's feminism is so deeply tied to sex-negativity, as it appears to do with that writer.

    I read that article shortly after it was written. It made me want to grab the writer by the throat and scream that is not how feminism works you idiot!

    BIG movie spoiler
    When Coulson died I sat there thinking "Noooo I can't believe they killed Coul- oh wait it's Joss Whedon yes I can." He's pretty brutal when it comes to character death. The more you like someone, the more likely it is that they're toast.

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  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    That is one heck of an article.

    I've never actually watched Firefly, but I find it very troublesome when a person's feminism is so deeply tied to sex-negativity, as it appears to do with that writer.

    I read that article shortly after it was written. It made me want to grab the writer by the throat and scream that is not how feminism works you idiot!

    BIG movie spoiler
    When Coulson died I sat there thinking "Noooo I can't believe they killed Coul- oh wait it's Joss Whedon yes I can." He's pretty brutal when it comes to character death. The more you like someone, the more likely it is that they're toast.
    This was me with Tony at the end. "No. Naw. They're making Iron Man 3, he's fine. But Iron Man's a suit. A suit Rhodey has. They don't need Tony Stark for Iron Man 3. Oh shit. WHEDOOOOOOON"

    Gonna miss Coulson, but at least he went out with style! "That's what it does..."

    Since Cobie seemed so insignificant, I'm guessing she's the new Coulson, appearing in all the next round of movies.

    Oh brilliant
  • Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    the whole concept of Cap seems like the most ridiculous patriotic bullshit until you actually sit down and read some of his comics and then it turns out to be great

    the secret is, he's actually not that patriotic? like he's proud of america and he believes in what it stands but he would be the first to admit that the country's got problems and you could have a very reasonable conversation with him on the subject

    Well, I wouldn't say he's not PATRIOTIC, just not JINGOISTIC. But I agree with you 100%, Cap's real appeal comes from the fact that he refuses to be a mindless symbol, no matter how much he looks like one.

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Yeah I think Cap's views on his country actually constitute true patriotism as opposed to jingoism

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Hey, remember that time Captain America exposed Nixon's secret plot to take over the country with a flying saucer? Because that happened.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Hey, remember that time Captain America exposed Nixon's secret plot to take over the country with a flying saucer? Because that happened.

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    Steve Englehart later said that he self-censored in that story. He wasn't sure that Marvel would let him specifically name Nixon, so didn't try to do so, but then thought afterwards that they probably would have. Interesting stuff, that's for sure.

  • RobchamRobcham The Rabbit King of your pantsRegistered User regular
    Big spoiler concern and such
    Agent Coulson dying and all. what was that nonsense about the cards then with Nick and Maria Hill? seemed like they were hinting that Coulson might be alive? Anyone else think this?

  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Robcham wrote: »
    Big spoiler concern and such
    Really.
    Agent Coulson dying and all. what was that nonsense about the cards then with Nick and Maria Hill? seemed like they were hinting that Coulson might be alive? Anyone else think this?
    MOVIE SPOILERS.
    More that Fury went and got Coulson's cards, then dipped them in his blood to give them that extra push. Because him dying wasn't enough apparently. Fury is a bit of a dick imo.

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  • LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Robcham
    That was mostly that Fury had basically used Coulson's death to try and bring the avengers together. The whole thing with the cards was to make them all mad at Loki and work together as a team.

    I remember Coulson even saying something to the tune of 'it'll bring them together' when he dies. Basically Fury just manipulates the shit out of people.

    Edit: FUCK FUCK FUCK. Wrong button. Sorry everyone. That was stupid.

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  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    @Lalabox Spoiler that shit!

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    @Lalabox fix them spoilers, son

  • LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    Sorry again. I hope I didn't ruin this for anyone.

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Quentin Harderman is a straight-up porn star name

  • EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    Major movie spoilers
    My only real problem with Whedon is that he is predictable as fuck re: character death.

    Get a new shtick, man.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Okay I looked up the Falcon because I didn't know much about the character
    Next, the Skull uses the Cube to rewrite the past and remove the years Wilson had spent angrily living as "Snap". In this new history, Wilson was an upright and cheerful social worker who is eventually lured to the Exiles' island and organizes the natives to fight for their freedom.

    Why the fuck would Red Skull make a dude more likely to become a superhero?

  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    “Marvel told me years back this is one movie they didn’t think they could do.

    “They were worried it would be a sensory overload having six, seven or eight different, very distinct, characters with their own unique back-story all coming together.

    “The fear was that would be too complicated.

    “But Marvel Studios boss Kevin Fiege was a big fan of my Avengers books and told me it made him realise an Avengers movie could actually be a lot simpler than he’d thought.

    “So they used book one and the ending to book two as the template for the movie, which is enormously flattering.”

    Remember guys, if anything remotely comic related is popular, it's because of Mark Millar!

    Furu on
  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Mark Millar can suck my dick

    Avengers has a very different tone to his Ultimates work

    for a start, everyone isn't a huge goose

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Doing my own movie re-run of the Avengers universe.

    It's funny how much more I like Captain America, Thor and Iron Man than all the X-Men and other B-listers put together. Mostly because, while they deal with serious stuff, they seem to enjoy being heroes most of the time, albiet for different reasons. None of this WHY CAN'T I BE NORMAL? Crap.

    Rogers is just a nice guy trying to make the world a better place.
    Tony is a loveable asshole who loves showing off but secretly cares.
    Thor has got the whole noble warrior thing going on and loves a good brawl.

    Spider Man is okay, but the films weren't on the same level as the ones I listed above.
    Also, did we ever get confirmation on Red Skull being dead in CA? Because although they made it look sort of similar to an Asgard transport, I can't imagine Skull returning in any serious capacity as a villain.

    Best action scenes in the lead up films IMO:

    Ironman's rampage against the Ten Rings in Golmera and following dogfight.
    Captain America kicking down Hydra's front door by himself.
    Thor vs. the Frost Giants.

    manwiththemachinegun on
  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    Furu wrote: »
    “Marvel told me years back this is one movie they didn’t think they could do.

    “They were worried it would be a sensory overload having six, seven or eight different, very distinct, characters with their own unique back-story all coming together.

    “The fear was that would be too complicated.

    “But Marvel Studios boss Kevin Fiege was a big fan of my Avengers books and told me it made him realise an Avengers movie could actually be a lot simpler than he’d thought.

    “So they used book one and the ending to book two as the template for the movie, which is enormously flattering.”

    Remember guys, if anything remotely comic related is popular, it's because of Mark Millar!

    I'm nauseous
    What an ass

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    remember everyone: mark millar has never done anything of value ever and should be summarily dismissed from all conversations

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Pretty much

    actually no, Superior was good, recently

    other than Superior, however, if Mark Millar gave up writing forever and his works were retroactively deleted from existence, I'd be entirely happy with that.

  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    ahem

    1985

    superman: red son

    old man logan

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    Who? Like, can someone give examples of his assholery (I love certain Marvel movies but I don't follow the comics much)?

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Old Man Logan was okay

    except oh yeah remember the part where Bruce Banner bragged about raping She-Hulk to death

    yeah that was great

    I don't care for Red Son much either, though I accept that others like it

    so okay, you have Red Son, Superior and 1985 (which I haven't read but will accept your premise that it is good)

    and then against that, you have everything else he has written, a lot of which ended up being really influential and fucked the Ultimate line over for years.

    seems like a good trade to me

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Okay I looked up the Falcon because I didn't know much about the character
    Next, the Skull uses the Cube to rewrite the past and remove the years Wilson had spent angrily living as "Snap". In this new history, Wilson was an upright and cheerful social worker who is eventually lured to the Exiles' island and organizes the natives to fight for their freedom.

    Why the fuck would Red Skull make a dude more likely to become a superhero?

    Red Skull's the kind of guy who motivates anyone to want to kick his ass. Even Magneto and Doom hate his guts.

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