dean himself at the end of the episode literally compares mind control to 'roofies'
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Can we not have this conversation here?
So some episodes from season 7 are up on hulu if anyone cares. It's missing the first three, I watched episode 4 and 5 (or was it 5 and 6?) but then it skips to like, episode 17 and 18 or some shit.
How upset will I be if I watch season 7 out of order?
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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Yeah, that's illegal.
I know some states/districts have it that the moment you are drunk you can't properly consent to any sexual act.
So some episodes from season 7 are up on hulu if anyone cares. It's missing the first three, I watched episode 4 and 5 (or was it 5 and 6?) but then it skips to like, episode 17 and 18 or some shit.
How upset will I be if I watch season 7 out of order?
it's a very monster of the week season, so you might be okay
the season ends in two weeks, though
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
So some episodes from season 7 are up on hulu if anyone cares. It's missing the first three, I watched episode 4 and 5 (or was it 5 and 6?) but then it skips to like, episode 17 and 18 or some shit.
How upset will I be if I watch season 7 out of order?
it's a very monster of the week season, so you might be okay
the season ends in two weeks, though
Ugh.
Ugh.
I hate their 'monster of the week' format.
All the interesting shit is in the ongoing plot.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I absolutely love "Ghostfacers" for allowing the Winchesters to swear as much as a couple of 20-somethings road tripping and hunting ghosts would. This was something which always mildly nagged at me on Buffy and Angel. You know those teenagers/young adults would be cursing up a storm.
How's the most recent season been so far? I'm still on season 5.
So some episodes from season 7 are up on hulu if anyone cares. It's missing the first three, I watched episode 4 and 5 (or was it 5 and 6?) but then it skips to like, episode 17 and 18 or some shit.
How upset will I be if I watch season 7 out of order?
it's a very monster of the week season, so you might be okay
personally, I don't really care about the ongoing plot
it's the characters that're interesting
plus nothing will ever be as bad as every anna episode
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
personally, I don't really care about the ongoing plot
it's the characters that're interesting
plus nothing will ever be as bad as every anna episode
Uh (S6 spoilers)
Sam and Dean are kinda boring to me.
Crowley, Bobby, Cass, and Raphael are the interesting ones.
Also Death, Lucifer, and the various 'good' monsters they find.
And Raph just bit the bullet at the end of season 6.
And just a general note (no specific spoilers)
You can't really bitch about minority cast members dying/being the badguys since the Supernatural Modus Operandi is that non-Dean/Sam characters either die or are the badguy or both.
More specific spoiler:
Hell, even dean and sam die every damn season.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Is it still rape if you've convinced them they want to do it
using telepathy?
Did they cover that in the Geneva convention?
are you kidding?
Yes I am. Though I do wonder how it would work from a purely legal standpoint. I doubt there are laws in place for that situation.
oh ok
I'd imagine that pretty much the second you could prove that someone was doing that you could apply existing laws to it
I mean, date-rape is illegal, right?
If telepathy became a thing in real life, and it was discovered that one could mind control people into having sex against their will, then laws would eventually be made against it.
personally, I don't really care about the ongoing plot
it's the characters that're interesting
plus nothing will ever be as bad as every anna episode
Uh (S6 spoilers)
Sam and Dean are kinda boring to me.
Crowley, Bobby, Cass, and Raphael are the interesting ones.
Also Death, Lucifer, and the various 'good' monsters they find.
And Raph just bit the bullet at the end of season 6.
And just a general note (no specific spoilers)
You can't really bitch about minority cast members dying/being the badguys since the Supernatural Modus Operandi is that non-Dean/Sam characters either die or are the badguy or both.
More specific spoiler:
Hell, even dean and sam die every damn season.
Also (late season 6 spoiler)
Turns out they've died lots of times, but Heaven kept on wiping their memories of it and sending them back, until they could finally jump start the apocalypse.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
that's a s5 spoiler
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
personally, I don't really care about the ongoing plot
it's the characters that're interesting
plus nothing will ever be as bad as every anna episode
Uh (S6 spoilers)
Sam and Dean are kinda boring to me.
Crowley, Bobby, Cass, and Raphael are the interesting ones.
Also Death, Lucifer, and the various 'good' monsters they find.
And Raph just bit the bullet at the end of season 6.
And just a general note (no specific spoilers)
You can't really bitch about minority cast members dying/being the badguys since the Supernatural Modus Operandi is that non-Dean/Sam characters either die or are the badguy or both.
More specific spoiler:
Hell, even dean and sam die every damn season.
all the annoying angst from season six is gone in season seven
it feels almost like season two again
quality-wise, and the threat is a season three type deal...no way to combat it
No, they are much more like dogs in that you try to discipline them and they just think you are playing and get crazier.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
well i mean im not saying that a black guy being the bad guy was the problem, i thought his character was really interesting
its that they represented that character by having him bully innocent white women and not even be able to hold his ground against a white man, which is very very problematic if you look at it through any historic lens
also that they had a whole thing about 'black and white and gray' but decided that he
was definitely evil for trying to kill vampires that they trusted would never eat humans
like, i wasnt siding with him at any point but what he did at the end wasnt that far off from what sam/dean did to meg at the end of season 1, and the line 'crossed' seemed way too arbitrary for me to be happy with how they treated him (remember they tied him up, obviously hated him, punched him so hard he fell backward and then said that he would have to wait days for rescue)
though that last part wasnt about his race, i just thought it was generally lame
and theyve been through enough cities that their general representation so far for minorities (one stereotype, one woman that was pretty decent but still HAD to be tied to a story about racism) is pretty lackluster
and if you can believe in ghosts and plot convenient psychic powers i dont think its a stretch to have more breaks from every episode featuring 'BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER' over and over
and jo was an okay character in the end even though i cant stand her attitude of hunting being a fun adventure
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There was an Asian actress in the Ghostfacers episode. She's the "step-sister" to one of the nerds.
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well i mean im not saying that a black guy being the bad guy was the problem, i thought his character was really interesting
its that they represented that character by having him bully innocent white women and not even be able to hold his ground against a white man, which is very very problematic if you look at it through any historic lens
also that they had a whole thing about 'black and white and gray' but decided that he
was definitely evil for trying to kill vampires that they trusted would never eat humans
like, i wasnt siding with him at any point but what he did at the end wasnt that far off from what sam/dean did to meg at the end of season 1, and the line 'crossed' seemed way too arbitrary for me to be happy with how they treated him (remember they tied him up, obviously hated him, punched him so hard he fell backward and then said that he would have to wait days for rescue)
though that last part wasnt about his race, i just thought it was generally lame
and theyve been through enough cities that their general representation so far for minorities (one stereotype, one woman that was pretty decent but still HAD to be tied to a story about racism) is pretty lackluster
and if you can believe in ghosts and plot convenient psychic powers i dont think its a stretch to have more breaks from every episode featuring 'BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER' over and over
and jo was an okay character in the end even though i cant stand her attitude of hunting being a fun adventure
Well... the problem with Gordon wasn't about him wanting to kill vampires. Had it been John (Dad) instead of Gordon, he would have probably done mostly the same thing. The difference is that Gordon wasn't doing it to help anyone. He was doing it because he enjoys killing things, even if those things are going out of their way to not hurt anyone and to stay out of trouble.
He even went so far as to torture the one vampire who was most responsible for keeping the rest of them in check. That is a very bad person.
well i mean im not saying that a black guy being the bad guy was the problem, i thought his character was really interesting
its that they represented that character by having him bully innocent white women and not even be able to hold his ground against a white man, which is very very problematic if you look at it through any historic lens
also that they had a whole thing about 'black and white and gray' but decided that he
was definitely evil for trying to kill vampires that they trusted would never eat humans
like, i wasnt siding with him at any point but what he did at the end wasnt that far off from what sam/dean did to meg at the end of season 1, and the line 'crossed' seemed way too arbitrary for me to be happy with how they treated him (remember they tied him up, obviously hated him, punched him so hard he fell backward and then said that he would have to wait days for rescue)
though that last part wasnt about his race, i just thought it was generally lame
and theyve been through enough cities that their general representation so far for minorities (one stereotype, one woman that was pretty decent but still HAD to be tied to a story about racism) is pretty lackluster
and if you can believe in ghosts and plot convenient psychic powers i dont think its a stretch to have more breaks from every episode featuring 'BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER' over and over
and jo was an okay character in the end even though i cant stand her attitude of hunting being a fun adventure
Well... the problem with Gordon wasn't about him wanting to kill vampires. Had it been John (Dad) instead of Gordon, he would have probably done mostly the same thing. The difference is that Gordon wasn't doing it to help anyone. He was doing it because he enjoys killing things, even if those things are going out of their way to not hurt anyone and to stay out of trouble.
He even went so far as to torture the one vampire who was most responsible for keeping the rest of them in check. That is a very bad person.
it came across way more that his life was ruined by vampires and that he'd lost any empathy for them as people. also remember that he had spent most of his life hunting a usually very evil creature, even if he was exceptionally cruel about it
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The dude they got to play high school Dean is pretty legit.
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well i mean im not saying that a black guy being the bad guy was the problem, i thought his character was really interesting
its that they represented that character by having him bully innocent white women and not even be able to hold his ground against a white man, which is very very problematic if you look at it through any historic lens
also that they had a whole thing about 'black and white and gray' but decided that he
was definitely evil for trying to kill vampires that they trusted would never eat humans
like, i wasnt siding with him at any point but what he did at the end wasnt that far off from what sam/dean did to meg at the end of season 1, and the line 'crossed' seemed way too arbitrary for me to be happy with how they treated him (remember they tied him up, obviously hated him, punched him so hard he fell backward and then said that he would have to wait days for rescue)
though that last part wasnt about his race, i just thought it was generally lame
and theyve been through enough cities that their general representation so far for minorities (one stereotype, one woman that was pretty decent but still HAD to be tied to a story about racism) is pretty lackluster
and if you can believe in ghosts and plot convenient psychic powers i dont think its a stretch to have more breaks from every episode featuring 'BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER' over and over
and jo was an okay character in the end even though i cant stand her attitude of hunting being a fun adventure
Well... the problem with Gordon wasn't about him wanting to kill vampires. Had it been John (Dad) instead of Gordon, he would have probably done mostly the same thing. The difference is that Gordon wasn't doing it to help anyone. He was doing it because he enjoys killing things, even if those things are going out of their way to not hurt anyone and to stay out of trouble.
He even went so far as to torture the one vampire who was most responsible for keeping the rest of them in check. That is a very bad person.
it came across way more that his life was ruined by vampires and that he'd lost any empathy for them as people. also remember that he had spent most of his life hunting a usually very evil creature, even if he was exceptionally cruel about it
the whole thing is to not become the monster that you are hunting, and that will become a WAY BIGGER theme later on so no super spoilers
keep in mind that the boys and john had their lives ruined by demons, and yet the still will deal with some of them
well i mean im not saying that a black guy being the bad guy was the problem, i thought his character was really interesting
its that they represented that character by having him bully innocent white women and not even be able to hold his ground against a white man, which is very very problematic if you look at it through any historic lens
also that they had a whole thing about 'black and white and gray' but decided that he
was definitely evil for trying to kill vampires that they trusted would never eat humans
like, i wasnt siding with him at any point but what he did at the end wasnt that far off from what sam/dean did to meg at the end of season 1, and the line 'crossed' seemed way too arbitrary for me to be happy with how they treated him (remember they tied him up, obviously hated him, punched him so hard he fell backward and then said that he would have to wait days for rescue)
though that last part wasnt about his race, i just thought it was generally lame
and theyve been through enough cities that their general representation so far for minorities (one stereotype, one woman that was pretty decent but still HAD to be tied to a story about racism) is pretty lackluster
and if you can believe in ghosts and plot convenient psychic powers i dont think its a stretch to have more breaks from every episode featuring 'BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER' over and over
and jo was an okay character in the end even though i cant stand her attitude of hunting being a fun adventure
Well... the problem with Gordon wasn't about him wanting to kill vampires. Had it been John (Dad) instead of Gordon, he would have probably done mostly the same thing. The difference is that Gordon wasn't doing it to help anyone. He was doing it because he enjoys killing things, even if those things are going out of their way to not hurt anyone and to stay out of trouble.
He even went so far as to torture the one vampire who was most responsible for keeping the rest of them in check. That is a very bad person.
it came across way more that his life was ruined by vampires and that he'd lost any empathy for them as people. also remember that he had spent most of his life hunting a usually very evil creature, even if he was exceptionally cruel about it
Dude was enjoying torturing Lenore. That's not just just cruel and obsessive, that's straight-up sadism. The guy enjoys it on a psychotic level.
It's worse for the fact that the vampire refused to give in to her own cravings despite all that he put her through, validating everything she was doing. Dude's a monster.
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No, no, I'm not saying it is. I'm was more just asking. because it is kind of a similar situation.
Instead we should be talking about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK-6Oo5IbuQ
So some episodes from season 7 are up on hulu if anyone cares. It's missing the first three, I watched episode 4 and 5 (or was it 5 and 6?) but then it skips to like, episode 17 and 18 or some shit.
How upset will I be if I watch season 7 out of order?
I know some states/districts have it that the moment you are drunk you can't properly consent to any sexual act.
it's a very monster of the week season, so you might be okay
the season ends in two weeks, though
yes
with a new showrunner
Ugh.
Ugh.
I hate their 'monster of the week' format.
All the interesting shit is in the ongoing plot.
How's the most recent season been so far? I'm still on season 5.
much better than season six
season five spoilers
it's the characters that're interesting
plus nothing will ever be as bad as every anna episode
Uh (S6 spoilers)
Crowley, Bobby, Cass, and Raphael are the interesting ones.
Also Death, Lucifer, and the various 'good' monsters they find.
And Raph just bit the bullet at the end of season 6.
And just a general note (no specific spoilers)
More specific spoiler:
If telepathy became a thing in real life, and it was discovered that one could mind control people into having sex against their will, then laws would eventually be made against it.
Also (late season 6 spoiler)
all the annoying angst from season six is gone in season seven
it feels almost like season two again
quality-wise, and the threat is a season three type deal...no way to combat it
and i dont know who said that 'black people arent allowed to die/be evil'
oh she does
she even turns dean down by saying she has self-respect in the most owny way
also munkus already covered it but, the problem with the "evil minority" is that everybody who is not a main cast member is evil or dies or both
and I mean pretty much everybody
also, have they even had a hispanic or asian cast member, I seriously can't even remember
tell them kids to get the fuck to bed
just I dunno
throw a blanket on them
kids are like birds
Now I remember why.
No, they are much more like dogs in that you try to discipline them and they just think you are playing and get crazier.
Aside from maybe a chick that Dean fucks and forgets or an unnamed extra that dies? Nope.
I can't think of a single asian character that was plot device important. Or hell, even named 'monster of the week' important. The closest was
its that they represented that character by having him bully innocent white women and not even be able to hold his ground against a white man, which is very very problematic if you look at it through any historic lens
also that they had a whole thing about 'black and white and gray' but decided that he
like, i wasnt siding with him at any point but what he did at the end wasnt that far off from what sam/dean did to meg at the end of season 1, and the line 'crossed' seemed way too arbitrary for me to be happy with how they treated him (remember they tied him up, obviously hated him, punched him so hard he fell backward and then said that he would have to wait days for rescue)
though that last part wasnt about his race, i just thought it was generally lame
and theyve been through enough cities that their general representation so far for minorities (one stereotype, one woman that was pretty decent but still HAD to be tied to a story about racism) is pretty lackluster
and if you can believe in ghosts and plot convenient psychic powers i dont think its a stretch to have more breaks from every episode featuring 'BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER' over and over
and jo was an okay character in the end even though i cant stand her attitude of hunting being a fun adventure
He even went so far as to torture the one vampire who was most responsible for keeping the rest of them in check. That is a very bad person.
keep in mind that the boys and john had their lives ruined by demons, and yet the still will deal with some of them
It's worse for the fact that the vampire refused to give in to her own cravings despite all that he put her through, validating everything she was doing. Dude's a monster.