Yeah I'm pretty sure that speech in 06 killed Colbert ever coming back. I mean, it may have actually coined the phrase "Reality has a liberal bias." That and the whole Gut bit.
Man, he looks so freakin old now. He's the same age as my father. My dad looks like he could pass for 40. Obama could pass for 60. So very sad what that job does to people.
It turns out Newt was actually at the dinner to hear Obama's burn of him.
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Yup, CSPAN cut to him and Calista. She was laughing. I couldn't see if he was or not. Obama's burn was pretty friendly, though. Kimmel's wasn't so much /shrug I'll feel real bad for the man, I'm sure.
One legitimate failure of the Obama administration-turned-campaign has been in creating a new campaign slogan that is better than 'Forward.'
That's not sarcasm or pith. It really is terrible. It is relentlessly mediocre and unimaginative. Yeah, 'Forward.' Not to be confused with the equally risible 'Lean Forward' MSNBC slogan.
So Barack Obama can locate and kill the world's most dangerous terrorist, but when it comes to campaign slogans..."Forward" huh?
Well given that the GOP seems to be earnestly trying to move the country backward it's at least an appropriate, if not honest, advertisement however generic it may be. Also I don't think he would be able to recycle the whole Hope, Change, and Yes We Can rhetoric.
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Well given that the GOP seems to be earnestly trying to move the country backward it's at least an appropriate, if not honest, advertisement however generic it may be. Also I don't think he would be able to recycle the whole Hope, Change, and Yes We Can rhetoric.
True, there was no going back to that. But there was an opportunity to at least ante up with similarly effective language--something just as memorable but also malleable according to the needs of the audience.
But no.
Forward.
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I should send that to my Dad. He's of the "Obama is going to be one of the worst presidents in US history camp," but doesn't have anything to back it up beyond, "Kenyan Socialism!"
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I should send that to my Dad. He's of the "Obama is going to be one of the worst presidents in US history camp," but doesn't have anything to back it up beyond, "Kenyan Socialism!"
There should be a version that has the red line from the beginning, the inaugural speech, and then just the laundry list of successes. That could be short enough for a 1:30sec spot on TV.
And without the narrative in the middle, and just focusing on (This came before, this is what came after), and just hitting people with a laundry list of awesome and daring them to discount every single one of those 20ish things... things even Romney has said were good ideas on his campaign trail (He has recently praised Obama for the Veterans Work credit program).
I can't think of a President in recent history more capable of running on his record alone, and not having to resort to calling his opponent names.
It's pretty awesome.
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Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Bill Clinton was a thing-doing badass after his first term, too, but in ways less observable, since that was before the advent of social media and near-ubiquitous internet access.
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I should send that to my Dad. He's of the "Obama is going to be one of the worst presidents in US history camp," but doesn't have anything to back it up beyond, "Kenyan Socialism!"
There should be a version that has the red line from the beginning, the inaugural speech, and then just the laundry list of successes. That could be short enough for a 1:30sec spot on TV.
And without the narrative in the middle, and just focusing on (This came before, this is what came after), and just hitting people with a laundry list of awesome and daring them to discount every single one of those 20ish things... things even Romney has said were good ideas on his campaign trail (He has recently praised Obama for the Veterans Work credit program).
I can't think of a President in recent history more capable of running on his record alone, and not having to resort to calling his opponent names.
It's pretty awesome.
Agreed. I'm just flabbergasted at how much nonsense there is about Obama getting nothing done in our political discourse.
At least I am, until I look at the quality of journalism our mainstream press outlets are averaging.
Bill Clinton was a thing-doing badass after his first term, too, but in ways less observable, since that was before the advent of social media and near-ubiquitous internet access.
This, more than anything, makes me want to see an Obama second term. If he's able to go 2nd term pres, nothing to lose, on the GOPs ass, and gets at least 2 years of a semi-useful Congress composition, we might see some names taken and some stuff realized. I, for one, cannot wait to see that.
The list of accomplishments (while, of course, never as great as you'd hope), IS seriously impressive, especially for a first-termer with a two year stretch where the inmates literally ran the asylum into the ground.
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One legitimate failure of the Obama administration-turned-campaign has been in creating a new campaign slogan that is better than 'Forward.'
That's not sarcasm or pith. It really is terrible. It is relentlessly mediocre and unimaginative. Yeah, 'Forward.' Not to be confused with the equally risible 'Lean Forward' MSNBC slogan.
Don't forget the Toyota slogan (painfully ill-timed with the faulty brakes/gas pedal/whatever it was fiasco): Moving Forward
The slogan doesn't really grab me, but there's nothing detrimental about it. I imagine it's tough coming up with good slogans for an incumbent (that essentially have to convey "let's keep doing what we're going") that don't resort to jingoist-sounding schlock like "Country First." IIRC, in 2004 Bush didn't even have a campaign-wide slogan.
One legitimate failure of the Obama administration-turned-campaign has been in creating a new campaign slogan that is better than 'Forward.'
That's not sarcasm or pith. It really is terrible. It is relentlessly mediocre and unimaginative. Yeah, 'Forward.' Not to be confused with the equally risible 'Lean Forward' MSNBC slogan.
Don't forget the Toyota slogan (painfully ill-timed with the faulty brakes/gas pedal/whatever it was fiasco): Moving Forward
The slogan doesn't really grab me, but there's nothing detrimental about it. I imagine it's tough coming up with good slogans for an incumbent (that essentially have to convey "let's keep doing what we're going") that don't resort to jingoist-sounding schlock like "Country First." IIRC, in 2004 Bush didn't even have a campaign-wide slogan.
The way it doesn't grab you is exactly what's detrimental about it! :bz
But yeah, it does speak to a more far-reaching problem of how difficult it can be to brand politics so that it is appealing to the youthful or cynical among us.
Bill Clinton was a thing-doing badass after his first term, too, but in ways less observable, since that was before the advent of social media and near-ubiquitous internet access.
Also in that he totally fucked over lots of people because Dick Morris said he should.
Clinton was a shit President outside of his SCOTUS nominees and first budget.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
Bill Clinton was a thing-doing badass after his first term, too, but in ways less observable, since that was before the advent of social media and near-ubiquitous internet access.
Also in that he totally fucked over lots of people because Dick Morris said he should.
Clinton was a shit President outside of his SCOTUS nominees and first budget.
Bill Clinton was a thing-doing badass after his first term, too, but in ways less observable, since that was before the advent of social media and near-ubiquitous internet access.
Also in that he totally fucked over lots of people because Dick Morris said he should.
Clinton was a shit President outside of his SCOTUS nominees and first budget.
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Give me a Clinton accomplishment. Just one.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
While I don't think he was "shit", I do hear a few too many people talking about how much better Clinton was than Obama, which I actually find to be patently untrue.
Bill Clinton was a thing-doing badass after his first term, too, but in ways less observable, since that was before the advent of social media and near-ubiquitous internet access.
Also in that he totally fucked over lots of people because Dick Morris said he should.
Clinton was a shit President outside of his SCOTUS nominees and first budget.
bwahahahahaha!
We need to be honest with ourselves here. I like Clinton plenty, for his budget alone, but the guy did several pretty shitty things.
DADT is probably my least favorite, followed by further repeals of Glass-Steegal.
Then again he also signed several Health Insurance reforms for children, welfare reform, NAFTA...
But there also that Kosovo crap, not mention the whole impeachment and whitewater things,
Still, he did insist on there being a White House website, which I hold as analogous to Carter putting solar panels on the White House (which were ripped off the moment Reagan took office0.
So a lot of good a lot of bad, plus there was Lewinsky and all that shit.
Bill Clinton was a thing-doing badass after his first term, too, but in ways less observable, since that was before the advent of social media and near-ubiquitous internet access.
Also in that he totally fucked over lots of people because Dick Morris said he should.
Clinton was a shit President outside of his SCOTUS nominees and first budget.
bwahahahahaha!
We need to be honest with ourselves here. I like Clinton plenty, for his budget alone, but the guy did several pretty shitty things.
DADT is probably my least favorite, followed by further repeals of Glass-Steegal.
Wasn't DADT a step forward from "Ask, Then Fire"?
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The basic historian view on Clinton is that he was a decent president who had the potential to be much greater than he was.
I was 12 when he left office, so I don't remember much outside of the media circus of the Lewinsky trial.
I was in high school when all that Lewenski shit went down. I remember asking what the huge fucking deal was and why I should care who the President is sticking his dick into. It's not like he was the first.
Anyhow, I usually ignore most campaign ads, but I have been noticing a trend. Romneys and his supporters are running ads that attack Obaman. They do not run ads that show Romneys accomplishments. Obamas camp seems to be doing the opposite, mostly running ads highlighting his successes (with some attacks thrown in).
I find that interesting, but what exactly has Romney accomplished anyhow that he can run on?
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I was in high school when all that Lewenski shit went down. I remember asking what the huge fucking deal was and why I should care who the President is sticking his dick into. It's not like he was the first.
I was in high school when all that Lewenski shit went down. I remember asking what the huge fucking deal was and why I should care who the President is sticking his dick into. It's not like he was the first.
I was in high school when all that Lewenski shit went down. I remember asking what the huge fucking deal was and why I should care who the President is sticking his dick into. It's not like he was the first.
He lied under oath.
This.
He also lied bald-faced to the public, which is at least as big a deal for some people who saw Clinton as less trustworthy afterwards.
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I was in high school when all that Lewenski shit went down. I remember asking what the huge fucking deal was and why I should care who the President is sticking his dick into. It's not like he was the first.
He lied under oath.
This.
He also lied bald-faced to the public, which is at least as big a deal for some people who saw Clinton as less trustworthy afterwards.
This is less of an issue for me. Politicians lie all the time. If you're being tried for something, you lie, and are then caught, that's a whole different thing.
What blows my mind is that something like 27% of Congress was in support of impeachment. Back when Nixon lied? It was near 70%. It's interesting that a BJ is more egregious than domestic espionage.
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He also snubbed Grinchley, which is what started the ball rolling.
To answer the ad thing, all of Romney's accomplishments are Obamacare and destroying companies to make a buck.
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They'll just false equivocate like mad and wish for a rich daddy who will solve the nation's finances by giving them money and fucking the poor.
What a well done, subtle bite.
He's looking for jokes to take out of context
"Pitbulls are delicious"
"And, of course, I was born in Hawaii"
"Michelle just said, 'Aw, yeah....'"
"In another 4 years, I'll look like this:" Cut to morgan freeman.
I woke the dog up laughing to this.
Check out all those failures. Disgusting.
That's not sarcasm or pith. It really is terrible. It is relentlessly mediocre and unimaginative. Yeah, 'Forward.' Not to be confused with the equally risible 'Lean Forward' MSNBC slogan.
So Barack Obama can locate and kill the world's most dangerous terrorist, but when it comes to campaign slogans..."Forward" huh?
Forward? FORWARD.
Holy :rotate:
Sure seems to be the latter.
It is their campaign slogan.
True, there was no going back to that. But there was an opportunity to at least ante up with similarly effective language--something just as memorable but also malleable according to the needs of the audience.
But no.
Forward.
I should send that to my Dad. He's of the "Obama is going to be one of the worst presidents in US history camp," but doesn't have anything to back it up beyond, "Kenyan Socialism!"
There should be a version that has the red line from the beginning, the inaugural speech, and then just the laundry list of successes. That could be short enough for a 1:30sec spot on TV.
And without the narrative in the middle, and just focusing on (This came before, this is what came after), and just hitting people with a laundry list of awesome and daring them to discount every single one of those 20ish things... things even Romney has said were good ideas on his campaign trail (He has recently praised Obama for the Veterans Work credit program).
I can't think of a President in recent history more capable of running on his record alone, and not having to resort to calling his opponent names.
It's pretty awesome.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Agreed. I'm just flabbergasted at how much nonsense there is about Obama getting nothing done in our political discourse.
At least I am, until I look at the quality of journalism our mainstream press outlets are averaging.
This, more than anything, makes me want to see an Obama second term. If he's able to go 2nd term pres, nothing to lose, on the GOPs ass, and gets at least 2 years of a semi-useful Congress composition, we might see some names taken and some stuff realized. I, for one, cannot wait to see that.
The list of accomplishments (while, of course, never as great as you'd hope), IS seriously impressive, especially for a first-termer with a two year stretch where the inmates literally ran the asylum into the ground.
Don't forget the Toyota slogan (painfully ill-timed with the faulty brakes/gas pedal/whatever it was fiasco): Moving Forward
The slogan doesn't really grab me, but there's nothing detrimental about it. I imagine it's tough coming up with good slogans for an incumbent (that essentially have to convey "let's keep doing what we're going") that don't resort to jingoist-sounding schlock like "Country First." IIRC, in 2004 Bush didn't even have a campaign-wide slogan.
The way it doesn't grab you is exactly what's detrimental about it! :bz
But yeah, it does speak to a more far-reaching problem of how difficult it can be to brand politics so that it is appealing to the youthful or cynical among us.
Also in that he totally fucked over lots of people because Dick Morris said he should.
Clinton was a shit President outside of his SCOTUS nominees and first budget.
bwahahahahaha!
Give me a Clinton accomplishment. Just one.
We need to be honest with ourselves here. I like Clinton plenty, for his budget alone, but the guy did several pretty shitty things.
DADT is probably my least favorite, followed by further repeals of Glass-Steegal.
Then again he also signed several Health Insurance reforms for children, welfare reform, NAFTA...
But there also that Kosovo crap, not mention the whole impeachment and whitewater things,
Still, he did insist on there being a White House website, which I hold as analogous to Carter putting solar panels on the White House (which were ripped off the moment Reagan took office0.
So a lot of good a lot of bad, plus there was Lewinsky and all that shit.
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Wasn't DADT a step forward from "Ask, Then Fire"?
I was 12 when he left office, so I don't remember much outside of the media circus of the Lewinsky trial.
Anyhow, I usually ignore most campaign ads, but I have been noticing a trend. Romneys and his supporters are running ads that attack Obaman. They do not run ads that show Romneys accomplishments. Obamas camp seems to be doing the opposite, mostly running ads highlighting his successes (with some attacks thrown in).
I find that interesting, but what exactly has Romney accomplished anyhow that he can run on?
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He lied under oath.
I remember at the time most people seemed to care less about that and more about banging someone other than his wife.
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This.
He also lied bald-faced to the public, which is at least as big a deal for some people who saw Clinton as less trustworthy afterwards.
This is less of an issue for me. Politicians lie all the time. If you're being tried for something, you lie, and are then caught, that's a whole different thing.
What blows my mind is that something like 27% of Congress was in support of impeachment. Back when Nixon lied? It was near 70%. It's interesting that a BJ is more egregious than domestic espionage.
To answer the ad thing, all of Romney's accomplishments are Obamacare and destroying companies to make a buck.