I think even Vince has reached the point where he realizes that WWE's talent development system is so shitty that they literally can't create their own stars anymore.
Someone mentioned a bit back, I think it might have been Colt Cabana on the AoW interview, that Dolph Ziggler might be the greatest wrestler to never set foot in a wrestling ring until he signed a WWE contract and went to developmental. So they must be able to do something right.
Ziggler came from an amateur wrestling background which I think helps. A lot of the best home grown WWE guys have the amateur wrestling background. Brock Lesnar, Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas, Kurt Angle, Bobby Lashley, I guess Jack Swagger.
So in the "Big 3" companies so to speak we have the World title matches being Punk/Bryan, Richards/Steen, and Roode/RVD. May looks like a pretty good month to be a wrestling fan.
yeah I am also amazed that they would have two popular wrestlers, one who is a heel and one who is a face, main event their pay per view
Laurinaitis hasn't wrestled in at least a decade
And he sure as shit isn't popular, evidenced by the WHATs everytime he talks in his monotone voice
Sweeney you did notice the massive amounts of heel heat Ace drew tonight right? Yeah the What shit came back briefly but I'll forgive the crowd that since they were so good the rest of the night.
I'm drafting the #1 Lifetime Scorer in the League: David_T.
Catsby General Manager: The Lovely Bastard Catsby Champion Doomsong8
The Geebs That Is A Pony
FecklessRogue
1. Nirya
2. Sweeney Tom
3. Hullis
4. buttlord
5. Martian
6. Maximum
7. Dogbone33
8. Lux
9. Assuran
10. PwnanObrien
Twisp General Manager: EvilBadman Tag Team Champion thepain73 Tag Team Champion Magell
Spooch
1. 411 Randle
2. Radius
3. Gonmun
4. TheSultan
5. Hjorvarthr
6. Fyrewulff
7. Bedlam
8. SanderJK
9. Goose!
10. David_T
Supplemental Draft
All other players will be drafted between the brands, and the results will be shared tomorrow afternoon.
I am not on this list. Does this mean I will be the highly sought-after free agent in the supplemental draft?
It'd be kind of a mistake to close your ppv with an injured (or "injured") John Cena against a dude that's spent most of the past decade or so in a suit. I know he just got done wrestling Rock and Lesnar, but those dudes are youngish and have been active in other things, so it seems less bad? Unless they have a big PPV ending twist planned.
Still, given how big Punk is now, and how big Bryan has gotten lately, you'd think that'd be what you'd use to close the show.
I'm drafting the #1 Lifetime Scorer in the League: David_T.
Catsby General Manager: The Lovely Bastard Catsby Champion Doomsong8
The Geebs That Is A Pony
FecklessRogue
1. Nirya
2. Sweeney Tom
3. Hullis
4. buttlord
5. Martian
6. Maximum
7. Dogbone33
8. Lux
9. Assuran
10. PwnanObrien
Twisp General Manager: EvilBadman Tag Team Champion thepain73 Tag Team Champion Magell
Spooch
1. 411 Randle
2. Radius
3. Gonmun
4. TheSultan
5. Hjorvarthr
6. Fyrewulff
7. Bedlam
8. SanderJK
9. Goose!
10. David_T
Supplemental Draft
All other players will be drafted between the brands, and the results will be shared tomorrow afternoon.
I am not on this list. Does this mean I will be the highly sought-after free agent in the supplemental draft?
Triple BBastard of the NorthMARegistered Userregular
edited May 2012
Going back to the whole "Vince shits on stars he didn't create" thing, I have to think the rampant sales of D-Bry's new "YES! YES! YES!" shirt contributed heavily to him getting thrown back into the main event so quickly. That shit sold out the first day. That kind of thing tends to be a real eye-opener and a kick in Vince's ass.
It'd be kind of a mistake to close your ppv with an injured (or "injured") John Cena against a dude that's spent most of the past decade or so in a suit. I know he just got done wrestling Rock and Lesnar, but those dudes are youngish and have been active in other things, so it seems less bad? Unless they have a big PPV ending twist planned.
Still, given how big Punk is now, and how big Bryan has gotten lately, you'd think that'd be what you'd use to close the show.
I get what you mean but I'd rather not have Jerry Lawler close Raw either. Now if Cena/Ace closes the PPV? Yeah that'd be bullshit.
Going back to the whole "Vince shits on stars he didn't create" thing, I have to think the rampant sales of D-Bry's new "YES! YES! YES!" shirt contributed heavily to him getting thrown back into the main event so quickly. That shit sold out the first day. That kind of thing tends to be a real eye-opener and a kick in Vince's ass.
Ummmmm
Didn't the same thing happen to Zack Ryder's shirt
It seems like they've stuck to this formula where the Laurinaitis Arc opens and closes the show. I don't see why'd the deviate from it, since it's their platform for swerve which is always funner to end shows with, no matter how incredible the previous match was. I'll say again that I expect Tensai to be the actual main event and as much as I hate when he starts constantly making that noise, it's always nice to see a tenured mid-card get some push.
Vince likes that you make him money that's all. As for the Ryder thing? They are keeping up the storyline with Eve censoring his youtube show so he's still on their radar. Just keep him the fuck away from Kane.
Going back to the whole "Vince shits on stars he didn't create" thing, I have to think the rampant sales of D-Bry's new "YES! YES! YES!" shirt contributed heavily to him getting thrown back into the main event so quickly. That shit sold out the first day. That kind of thing tends to be a real eye-opener and a kick in Vince's ass.
Ummmmm
Didn't the same thing happen to Zack Ryder's shirt
Look how long that gravy train lasted for him
The difference is that Daniel Bryan is a thousand times better in just about every way than Zack Ryder.
I wouldn't be surprised if an online movement starts soon to make sure as many online fans as possible order the PPV next month just for the WWE title match. Last year the buyrate was super low so it won't be good if something similiar happens this year.
Tyler Black vs Chris Hero was the main even of last week's FCW. Tyler Black aside it was a nice match, well worth watching.
Also Ambrose and Regal locked in stereo Regal Stretches on James Bronson and some other dude who isn't important enough for me to remember. It was pretty swell.
I wouldn't be surprised if an online movement starts soon to make sure as many online fans as possible order the PPV next month just for the WWE title match. Last year the buyrate was super low so it won't be good if something similiar happens this year.
I wouldn't be surprised if the buy rate wasn't great. "Online fans" aren't too exactly known for paying for WWE events.
Tyler Black vs Chris Hero was the main even of last week's FCW. Tyler Black aside it was a nice match, well worth watching.
Also Ambrose and Regal locked in stereo Regal Stretches on James Bronson and some other dude who isn't important enough for me to remember. It was pretty swell.
I wouldn't be surprised if an online movement starts soon to make sure as many online fans as possible order the PPV next month just for the WWE title match. Last year the buyrate was super low so it won't be good if something similiar happens this year.
I wouldn't be surprised if the buy rate wasn't great. "Online fans" aren't too exactly known for paying for WWE events.
They're giving us a Punk/Bryan WWE title match. The online fans can't bitch about that. Of course I'm a hypocrite and won't be ordering the show either.
I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!!!
0
PwnanObrienHe's right, life sucks.Registered Userregular
Tyler Black vs Chris Hero was the main even of last week's FCW. Tyler Black aside it was a nice match, well worth watching.
Also Ambrose and Regal locked in stereo Regal Stretches on James Bronson and some other dude who isn't important enough for me to remember. It was pretty swell.
Going back to the whole "Vince shits on stars he didn't create" thing, I have to think the rampant sales of D-Bry's new "YES! YES! YES!" shirt contributed heavily to him getting thrown back into the main event so quickly. That shit sold out the first day. That kind of thing tends to be a real eye-opener and a kick in Vince's ass.
Ummmmm
Didn't the same thing happen to Zack Ryder's shirt
Look how long that gravy train lasted for him
The difference is that Daniel Bryan is a thousand times better in just about every way than Zack Ryder.
Seriously. Not even in the same league.
Steam/XBL/PSN: FiveAgainst1
0
Goose!That's me, honeyShow me the way home, honeyRegistered Userregular
I like how everyone online now is saying that Punk and Bryan will be blamed when no one orders Over the Limit. Forget the fact that WWE knows that last year it was one of the least bought shows of 2011, AND Lesnar (so far) isn't on the show, AND it's right after two huge back to back PPVs, everyone is so sure that Punk and Bryan will get the shaft.
Hell yeah, picked before Gonmun, my dominance continues onward.
Everyday we stray further from God's light Steam Switch FC: 2799-7909-4852
0
PwnanObrienHe's right, life sucks.Registered Userregular
FCW note: if these Adam Mercer promos are trying to convince me he's not entertaining then mission accomplished.
0
AssuranIs swinging on the SpiralRegistered Userregular
So, just finished Raw. That was a pretty good show over all, and Brock comes out looking like all kinds of bad ass. I love Trips, but him selling an injury to someone is a BIG DEAL based on how little he does it. Dare I say the WWE is on fire?
Plus, Punk vs. Danielson for the WWE title. Holy shit. Never, ever in my wildest dreams watching those two in the indies did I believe this would come to pass.
I was kinda confused on the ending of Jericho/Big Show. What was the point of that ending cluster?
Following the Extreme Rules PPV on Sunday, there was a huge backstage blow-up involving Brock Lesnar.
According to several sources, Lesnar lost it on a number of WWE officials and began ripping apart a dressing room, upset over the John Cena promo that closed the PPV.
The original plan was for Cena, despite winning, to be so beaten that he was carried out of the building, leaving an opening for Lesnar to brag that while he had lost the battle on a fluke, he had won the war.
When Cena decided to address the audience, Lesnar perceived it as Cena double crossing him and lost in on WWE officials. It's not yet known how they calmed him down, but tonight's angle with HHH was planned in advance as a way to remove Lesnar from TV.
Sources within the company have indicated that Lesnar's current deal only requires him to work two dates minimum.
So, just finished Raw. That was a pretty good show over all, and Brock comes out looking like all kinds of bad ass. I love Trips, but him selling an injury to someone is a BIG DEAL based on how little he does it. Dare I say the WWE is on fire?
Plus, Punk vs. Danielson for the WWE title. Holy shit. Never, ever in my wildest dreams watching those two in the indies did I believe this would come to pass.
I was kinda confused on the ending of Jericho/Big Show. What was the point of that ending cluster?
I think the ref legit fucked up to be honest. He was counting waayyyy too slow. Maybe Bryan is a back up plan?
Posts
I am PwnanObrien and I am Team Catsby's worst nightmare!
Johnny could take all the verbal abuse.
All the straight edge.
All the can't see me.
But dammit, the return of the whats drove him over the edge.
Steam
but it sounds like Tensai vs Cena to me
Ziggler came from an amateur wrestling background which I think helps. A lot of the best home grown WWE guys have the amateur wrestling background. Brock Lesnar, Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas, Kurt Angle, Bobby Lashley, I guess Jack Swagger.
{Twitter, Everybody's doing it. }{Writing and Story Blog}
Laurinaitis hasn't wrestled in at least a decade
And he sure as shit isn't popular, evidenced by the WHATs everytime he talks in his monotone voice
Steam
Sweeney you did notice the massive amounts of heel heat Ace drew tonight right? Yeah the What shit came back briefly but I'll forgive the crowd that since they were so good the rest of the night.
I don't want Johnny Ace wrestling anyone
it ruins his "heel by just doing his job" persona
That'd be excellent
Steam
I am not on this list. Does this mean I will be the highly sought-after free agent in the supplemental draft?
Still, given how big Punk is now, and how big Bryan has gotten lately, you'd think that'd be what you'd use to close the show.
"IT'S GYM CLASS ALL OVER AGAIN"
Steam
I get what you mean but I'd rather not have Jerry Lawler close Raw either. Now if Cena/Ace closes the PPV? Yeah that'd be bullshit.
Ummmmm
Didn't the same thing happen to Zack Ryder's shirt
Look how long that gravy train lasted for him
Steam
The difference is that Daniel Bryan is a thousand times better in just about every way than Zack Ryder.
Here comes the pain!
no it won't be the thunder because i'll actually pay attention to it
it is more nWo nitro
Also Ambrose and Regal locked in stereo Regal Stretches on James Bronson and some other dude who isn't important enough for me to remember. It was pretty swell.
I wouldn't be surprised if the buy rate wasn't great. "Online fans" aren't too exactly known for paying for WWE events.
They're giving us a Punk/Bryan WWE title match. The online fans can't bitch about that. Of course I'm a hypocrite and won't be ordering the show either.
Seriously. Not even in the same league.
I hate the IWC sometimes, I really do.
Steam Switch FC: 2799-7909-4852
Plus, Punk vs. Danielson for the WWE title. Holy shit. Never, ever in my wildest dreams watching those two in the indies did I believe this would come to pass.
I was kinda confused on the ending of Jericho/Big Show. What was the point of that ending cluster?
3DS: 2981-5304-3227
I think the ref legit fucked up to be honest. He was counting waayyyy too slow. Maybe Bryan is a back up plan?
Tumblr | Twitter | Twitch | Pinny Arcade Lanyard
[3DS] 3394-3901-4002 | [Xbox/Steam] Redfield85
Solid Raw tonight, happy for Truth and kofi, Johnny finally going full heel, and Lesnar getting the hell off of the TV.
Surprisingly, I'll give kudos to Cole tonight too, he was commentating in a mostly face manner and didn't get on my nerves.