Hello fellow Jedi. The Sword has told me that you may direct concerns to me. Any information you obtained from your meditations or see rings may prove useful.
Master Ketbra, if you would be so kind to tell us more about your suspicion of Infidel, that would be appreciated
I don't have any suspicions currently Although all this attraction to Infidel is worrying.
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Erin The RedThe Name's Erin! Woman, Podcaster, Dungeon Master, IT nerd, Parent, Trans. AMABaton Rouge, LARegistered Userregular
From what I've seen, Infidel hasn't really done anything to warrant suspicion. Though I could be completely missing something obvious, which would be great if someone pointed it out to me.
Bandwagons on day one have kept us from having much to go on for day 2.
Did anyone gain a power from a planetary takeover mission? They'd be one of the few people we could for sure trust
You can probably trust Akimbolegs as his claimed role was named in dark green in the narration.
Voting out Infidel as of now is dumb, I'd recommend looking over yesterday for people who clearly weren't interested in participating in discussion yesterday, since there was a hell of a lot to think about from a villager's perspective. Baidol might be a good person to compare to as I don't recall him discussing much of anything, which he usually does. Maybe put up a few bits and pieces somewhere as I don't think he'd forget to talk entirely (unless he was too frantically busy with organizing the mafia on the proboards heh).
Can't do much myself as I'm gearing up for my last final.
So the one thing I would really like is if all the other Jedi specials got into contact with me. Based on what I'm told we shouldn't have to worry about conversion of the specials.
I'll stop beating around the bush, just to avoid confusion. I am the Vig, so if your PM was anything like mine, there should be no reason to not contact me, as pertains to conversions.
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Erin The RedThe Name's Erin! Woman, Podcaster, Dungeon Master, IT nerd, Parent, Trans. AMABaton Rouge, LARegistered Userregular
edited May 2012
As previously listed in the random number thing, here's the people who went with us on the mission:
To be fair on T_A, he didn't respond to my PM either, so he might be away from the computer.
If we have anyone we need to block, I trained last night and can powerblock anyone.
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Erin The RedThe Name's Erin! Woman, Podcaster, Dungeon Master, IT nerd, Parent, Trans. AMABaton Rouge, LARegistered Userregular
Do we know how much a Knight/Master/Padawan count for as far as planetary control? Is it 1-2-3 in order of power, or could there maybe be a vote manipulation-style thing going on?
Seems like that is a variable that is unexplained (unless i missed that too?) and maybe people are assuming values?
Forgot that KetBra sent us the PM, so he is removed from this list.
Did you actually hear from FecklessRogue and Cythraul that they went to Bothuwui, or are you making an assumption?
Edit: Jesus, I'm bad with bbcode today
This is a bit of an assumption, as they didn't expressly state after the fact that it was, in fact, what they did, but Feckless was the one to suggest the destination, and Cythraul said something along the lines of "should I have my padawan come along?"
You may want to explain why it is dumb. Perhaps you'd like to share with the class?
He's being Infidel in thread. He's always Infidel in thread, all the time, every game, almost invariably in the same saying a bit but still offering a bit of insight here and there way and seeming shifty. Voting out someone for acting the exact same way as they always do just because they're high profile is incredibly dumb.
Jdark's analysis actually possibly offers some real reason to vote Infidel, I was mostly responding to Reg Rysk's claims of having "reasons" to vote Infidel.
In some ways I wish we could not have this damn "WHAT IS INFIDEL UP TO!!!1" discussion every damn day 1 and 2 but I begrudgingly admit it has some value.
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Erin The RedThe Name's Erin! Woman, Podcaster, Dungeon Master, IT nerd, Parent, Trans. AMABaton Rouge, LARegistered Userregular
Based on @jdarksun 's calculations, it would seem that Bothawui should have recieved between 8-12 points?
It would appear that our group didn't have a master in it that I can tell from cross-checking the list really quick, so with Knights alone we should have had 8 unless we were sabatoged either from within or from outside the group by random chance
Just checking in to say (TRV already did) that we went for Bothawui.
This is my confusion point. Mostly because I was in PMs with TRV most of the day and was PLANNING to have just me and him and our padawan go to Nal Hutta. I confirmed that was the order to go in, and he agreed. Now he is saying he did not go there, Infidel is confirming this fact publicly.
I was not happy with TRV over the bringing in of Capfalcon to a conversation about where we were going. The idea was to keep our squad minimal so we could determine who may have Sith in their midst. But if you look at the numbers, the sheer VOLUME of sith influence on Nal Hutta is astronomical meaning they were likely informed of our plan. Between my padawan, TRV and his, Capfalcon and his and Infidel. Add in the fact that Farangu went there and there could be issues with him or his other contacts.
To me, I think I've convinced myself that TRV was well meaning in all of this soft networking, but he crossed them up because he's not as familiar with how it should work. I didn't share my plan with him because...well...it would kind of defeat the purpose if he knew and was Sith. If he was contacted by Infidel, I feel he would be convinced he was more on point and follow him about because it's a thing people do at times.
As such, I conclude that Infidel is playing a game here and took advantage of a newer player. I do not claim to know his allegiance, this is simply my suspicion. As a veteran player myself, I would like to up front defend the "This is a mafia ploy to make Infi look bad for the whole game" type thing; I know better than to pull that lame brain move because you're all more likely to turn on me based on the system I chose to run my mission on. And if a Sith, you would then cast suspicion off of him and yadda yadda a good Infi is bad for the mafia derpy derp.
My list:
Infidel, Capfalcon, TRV, respective padawans (to include my own)
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Erin The RedThe Name's Erin! Woman, Podcaster, Dungeon Master, IT nerd, Parent, Trans. AMABaton Rouge, LARegistered Userregular
I was planning on going there. Then somebody re-worked the task groups or whatever, and I went with the new task group.
I never invited anyone to any PM thread. Capfalcon started one and told us to all seer him or each other or whatever, and I informed him that we previously had plans in place.
You're missing the part where I just think you're a patsy in the middle. Why would you deviate from a plan without notifying the people you were planning with? Unless you want to set me up to look like an idiot.
Where should I go tonight? I just chilled on Coruscant yesterday since T_A never responded as to where I should go.
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Erin The RedThe Name's Erin! Woman, Podcaster, Dungeon Master, IT nerd, Parent, Trans. AMABaton Rouge, LARegistered Userregular
I 100% promise you, I am not trying to make anyone look like anything. I figured if plans were changing, then the less people that knew about it, the better. I'm not sure who I can trust, so exposing a plan to a larger audience statistically improved the chances of it getting spoiled.
Would all Jedi Nal Hutta missions be accounted for in this planning?
You would think from the high numbers that the Sith tried to take Nal Hutta in its entirety and failed, which could add to this analysis. Getting to 12 has a high value for either team as the other team has to sink a whole 12 points into the planet to bring it back to neutral, your team having access to the power all the while.
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I chose to meditate last night and did not take part in any missions.
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Erin The RedThe Name's Erin! Woman, Podcaster, Dungeon Master, IT nerd, Parent, Trans. AMABaton Rouge, LARegistered Userregular
I can confirm that Tzeentch told me this, though I cannot confirm it's authenticity in the end.
You may want to explain why it is dumb. Perhaps you'd like to share with the class?
He's being Infidel in thread. He's always Infidel in thread, all the time, every game, almost invariably in the same saying a bit but still offering a bit of insight here and there way and seeming shifty. Voting out someone for acting the exact same way as they always do just because they're high profile is incredibly dumb.
Jdark's analysis actually possibly offers some real reason to vote Infidel, I was mostly responding to Reg Rysk's claims of having "reasons" to vote Infidel.
In some ways I wish we could not have this damn "WHAT IS INFIDEL UP TO!!!1" discussion every damn day 1 and 2 but I begrudgingly admit it has some value.
Note how when analysis and logic appear, Rawkking abruptly shifts from
Look when those posts were made in relation to other posts and actually read them this time. Also, perhaps you should have brought some evidence yourself when accusing Infidel aside from a little memetic quip if you didn't want to incite such a response to your silly geesery?
Edit: Upon reflection, you technically didn't accuse Infidel of being mafia then and I misread your post and was wrong about that. My points in earlier points remain valid though :P
Back to studying.
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Shiny New Toyswhere am i?its dark in hereRegistered Userregular
The Anon, I hope you talk to your padawan today.
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Erin The RedThe Name's Erin! Woman, Podcaster, Dungeon Master, IT nerd, Parent, Trans. AMABaton Rouge, LARegistered Userregular
Random idea, feel free to let me know if it's completely dumb:
Should we "re-roll" our groups, and try to do another thing today, be it planets or meditation or some combination?
If we keep the groups rotating, we can maybe pinpoint the corruption easier if on day 1 this planet got less and then on day 2 this planet is lacking, and oh look this person was on both teams, or something like that. Wouldn't be foolproof, but it may help some
Assuming those who reported in have told the truth, we should have expected:
Bothawui 10 to 15
Nal Hutta 6 to 9
Including second-hand claims...
Bothuwui:
3 Jedi Knights + Padawan Support = +9
1 Sith Knight + Padawan Support = -3
1 Sith (subverted?) Knight = -2
Total = +4
Nal Hutta:
1 Jedi Knight + Padawan Support = +3
3 Sith Knight + Padawan Support = -9
1 Sith Master = -3
Total = -9
2 (Sith Knights on Alderaan) + 1 (Sith Master on Tatooine) + 2 (Sith Knights on Bothuwui) + 3 (Sith Knights on Nal Hutta) + 1 (Sith Master on Nal Hutta) = 9 Sith. Maybe number ten used his action to kill FecklessRogue.
Morning phalla: I was also involved with a mission to Bothuwui after a master got in touch with me yesterday, padawan supported, wasn't around during the witching hour or until now for that matter to make a claim. Don't know how that changes the numbers, still off by a lot there.
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Jdark's analysis actually possibly offers some real reason to vote Infidel[...]I begrudgingly admit it has some value.
I'm not quite sure I understand, isn't that a good thing? No logic, and the vote is bad, logic, and the vote is better? Were you actually critiquing Rawkking for that?
Jdark's analysis actually possibly offers some real reason to vote Infidel[...]I begrudgingly admit it has some value.
I'm not quite sure I understand, isn't that a good thing? No logic, and the vote is bad, logic, and the vote is better? Were you actually critiquing Rawkking for that?
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Master Ketbra, if you would be so kind to tell us more about your suspicion of Infidel, that would be appreciated
Not TOO much interest, I hope. That way lies the dark side.
Bandwagons on day one have kept us from having much to go on for day 2.
Did anyone gain a power from a planetary takeover mission? They'd be one of the few people we could for sure trust
You can probably trust Akimbolegs as his claimed role was named in dark green in the narration.
Voting out Infidel as of now is dumb, I'd recommend looking over yesterday for people who clearly weren't interested in participating in discussion yesterday, since there was a hell of a lot to think about from a villager's perspective. Baidol might be a good person to compare to as I don't recall him discussing much of anything, which he usually does. Maybe put up a few bits and pieces somewhere as I don't think he'd forget to talk entirely (unless he was too frantically busy with organizing the mafia on the proboards heh).
Can't do much myself as I'm gearing up for my last final.
I'll stop beating around the bush, just to avoid confusion. I am the Vig, so if your PM was anything like mine, there should be no reason to not contact me, as pertains to conversions.
TheRoadVirus
KetBra
Infidel
FecklessRogue
Cythraul
Forgot that KetBra sent us the PM, so he is removed from this list.
If we have anyone we need to block, I trained last night and can powerblock anyone.
Seems like that is a variable that is unexplained (unless i missed that too?) and maybe people are assuming values?
You may want to explain why it is dumb. Perhaps you'd like to share with the class?
take that as you will.
Edit: Jesus, I'm bad with bbcode today
This is a bit of an assumption, as they didn't expressly state after the fact that it was, in fact, what they did, but Feckless was the one to suggest the destination, and Cythraul said something along the lines of "should I have my padawan come along?"
Two people with the most random names in history just got notifications and are immensely confused.
And all caps?
WHO HAS SUMMONED ME
He's being Infidel in thread. He's always Infidel in thread, all the time, every game, almost invariably in the same saying a bit but still offering a bit of insight here and there way and seeming shifty. Voting out someone for acting the exact same way as they always do just because they're high profile is incredibly dumb.
Jdark's analysis actually possibly offers some real reason to vote Infidel, I was mostly responding to Reg Rysk's claims of having "reasons" to vote Infidel.
In some ways I wish we could not have this damn "WHAT IS INFIDEL UP TO!!!1" discussion every damn day 1 and 2 but I begrudgingly admit it has some value.
It would appear that our group didn't have a master in it that I can tell from cross-checking the list really quick, so with Knights alone we should have had 8 unless we were sabatoged either from within or from outside the group by random chance
This is my confusion point. Mostly because I was in PMs with TRV most of the day and was PLANNING to have just me and him and our padawan go to Nal Hutta. I confirmed that was the order to go in, and he agreed. Now he is saying he did not go there, Infidel is confirming this fact publicly.
I was not happy with TRV over the bringing in of Capfalcon to a conversation about where we were going. The idea was to keep our squad minimal so we could determine who may have Sith in their midst. But if you look at the numbers, the sheer VOLUME of sith influence on Nal Hutta is astronomical meaning they were likely informed of our plan. Between my padawan, TRV and his, Capfalcon and his and Infidel. Add in the fact that Farangu went there and there could be issues with him or his other contacts.
To me, I think I've convinced myself that TRV was well meaning in all of this soft networking, but he crossed them up because he's not as familiar with how it should work. I didn't share my plan with him because...well...it would kind of defeat the purpose if he knew and was Sith. If he was contacted by Infidel, I feel he would be convinced he was more on point and follow him about because it's a thing people do at times.
As such, I conclude that Infidel is playing a game here and took advantage of a newer player. I do not claim to know his allegiance, this is simply my suspicion. As a veteran player myself, I would like to up front defend the "This is a mafia ploy to make Infi look bad for the whole game" type thing; I know better than to pull that lame brain move because you're all more likely to turn on me based on the system I chose to run my mission on. And if a Sith, you would then cast suspicion off of him and yadda yadda a good Infi is bad for the mafia derpy derp.
My list:
Infidel, Capfalcon, TRV, respective padawans (to include my own)
I never invited anyone to any PM thread. Capfalcon started one and told us to all seer him or each other or whatever, and I informed him that we previously had plans in place.
Where should I go tonight? I just chilled on Coruscant yesterday since T_A never responded as to where I should go.
You would think from the high numbers that the Sith tried to take Nal Hutta in its entirety and failed, which could add to this analysis. Getting to 12 has a high value for either team as the other team has to sink a whole 12 points into the planet to bring it back to neutral, your team having access to the power all the while.
Look when those posts were made in relation to other posts and actually read them this time. Also, perhaps you should have brought some evidence yourself when accusing Infidel aside from a little memetic quip if you didn't want to incite such a response to your silly geesery?
Edit: Upon reflection, you technically didn't accuse Infidel of being mafia then and I misread your post and was wrong about that. My points in earlier points remain valid though :P
Back to studying.
Should we "re-roll" our groups, and try to do another thing today, be it planets or meditation or some combination?
If we keep the groups rotating, we can maybe pinpoint the corruption easier if on day 1 this planet got less and then on day 2 this planet is lacking, and oh look this person was on both teams, or something like that. Wouldn't be foolproof, but it may help some
Morning phalla: I was also involved with a mission to Bothuwui after a master got in touch with me yesterday, padawan supported, wasn't around during the witching hour or until now for that matter to make a claim. Don't know how that changes the numbers, still off by a lot there.
You sound like my GPS droid. Always telling me to make a U-turn. Ugh!
I'm not quite sure I understand, isn't that a good thing? No logic, and the vote is bad, logic, and the vote is better? Were you actually critiquing Rawkking for that?
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I see what you're doing here.