Ok, so serious question: When you came out as being gay, what were the repercussions?
My mom cried because I couldn't give her grandchildren.
Other than that not a whole lot changed.
My mom actually asked me if I was gay because of a long story.
tl;dr version is my friend slept over (platonic) and slept in the same bed and since I lied about it (my dad peeked in when he left in the morning), he thought I was gay.
She asked expecting me to say I wasn't.
She said she was fine with it... then apparently cried for a week. But that was about 10 years ago, so things are fine now.
Like any good southern family, we generally don't discuss it. :P
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And yeah all the cynicism about this was bumming me out.
I'm not treating it like.. the single most joyous moment ever or anything, but it's still worth being hopeful about!
"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde
So, how many religious/spiritual people have you met that haven't given you crap for your sexual orientation?
Eh, define "given you crap"? Most of my friends are either not overtly religious, or they don't throw it in my face, so it isn't an issue.
Of the people I grew up with in rural south carolina, only 1-2 gave me crap. And it wasn't "YOU HATE GAYS" or anything, it was one saying I was doing it for attention (lol) and the other just stopped talking to me.
Basically, has anyone just treated you negatively on the basis of your sexuality, then used religion as a pretext for it?
EDIT: I mean, I've met a couple other avowed Christians who were pro gay rights, but I'm wondering if we're the exception rather than the rule.
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Awesome. I loved transformers. I didn't play with dolls as a kid. I had he-man, G.I. Joe, Transformers, etc.
And they all fought the crap out of one another.
Question, Nevs: is it cowardice to hide your bisexuality from co-workers, knowing that it avoids complications from conservative corporate heads and potential loss of friendship with some work friends? Because I feel like chicken shit a lot over this.
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nevilleThe Worst Gay(Seriously. The Worst!)Registered Userregular
So, how many religious/spiritual people have you met that haven't given you crap for your sexual orientation?
Eh, define "given you crap"? Most of my friends are either not overtly religious, or they don't throw it in my face, so it isn't an issue.
Of the people I grew up with in rural south carolina, only 1-2 gave me crap. And it wasn't "YOU HATE GAYS" or anything, it was one saying I was doing it for attention (lol) and the other just stopped talking to me.
Basically, has anyone just treated you negatively on the basis of your sexuality, then used religion as a pretext for it?
EDIT: I mean, I've met a couple other avowed Christians who were pro gay rights, but I'm wondering if we're the exception rather than the rule.
Not really, but again I came out fully when I lived in Seattle, where most people are pretty open minded. Even if they don't agree with your views, they generally won't shove em down your throat.
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Metroid speaking of which, I have a similar dilemma about the fact that I "pass" as straight and since I never have boyfriends or anything, people never really guess that I'm gay. So sometimes I feel like by not talking about it I'm "hiding", but at the same time I don't actually care enough to tell people unless there's a reason for it to come up in conversation.. it's odd.
I've gotten better about genuinely not caring if people know though. And I mean that both ways - I don't care if they do know, and I don't care if they don't. :P
It's helped since I joined facebook and put it in my profile, as silly as that sounds. At least now I feel like if people want to know it's there.
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"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde
So, how many religious/spiritual people have you met that haven't given you crap for your sexual orientation?
Eh, define "given you crap"? Most of my friends are either not overtly religious, or they don't throw it in my face, so it isn't an issue.
Of the people I grew up with in rural south carolina, only 1-2 gave me crap. And it wasn't "YOU HATE GAYS" or anything, it was one saying I was doing it for attention (lol) and the other just stopped talking to me.
Basically, has anyone just treated you negatively on the basis of your sexuality, then used religion as a pretext for it?
EDIT: I mean, I've met a couple other avowed Christians who were pro gay rights, but I'm wondering if we're the exception rather than the rule.
Not really, but again I came out fully when I lived in Seattle, where most people are pretty open minded. Even if they don't agree with your views, they generally won't shove em down your throat.
Sorry, that's kind of a bad question.
Maybe I should just start going to Catholic churches I don't attend regularly and leave survey forms.
Also, my mom won't remark directly about my sexuality, but in a ridiculous fashion. When I was dating a guy, he was just 'a date'. And she wont say bi, just ' your preference' or ' that way you are'
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Question, Nevs: is it cowardice to hide your bisexuality from co-workers, knowing that it avoids complications from conservative corporate heads and potential loss of friendship with some work friends? Because I feel like chicken shit a lot over this.
Not at all. Co-workers are just that. I don't necessarily flaunt it, although my coworkers are all friends with me on facebook, and I hide nothing there. But if you don't feel like sharing, then don't.
Although I'd personally say anyone who wouldn't be your friend because of it isn't your friend at all. But I've been in your place before so I get that.
Metroid speaking of which, I have a similar dilemma about the fact that I "pass" as straight and since I never have boyfriends or anything, people never really guess that I'm gay. So sometimes I feel like by not talking about it I'm "hiding", but at the same time I don't actually care enough to tell people unless there's a reason for it to come up in conversation.. it's odd.
I've gotten better about genuinely not caring if people know though. And I mean that both ways - I don't care if they do know, and I don't care if they don't. :P
I "pass" for straight I suppose as well. I have certainly told people in work scenarios or what-have-you that were surprised. But also many straight people can be pretty oblivious to it, so.
I "pass" for straight I suppose as well. I have certainly told people in work scenarios or what-have-you that were surprised. But also many straight people can be pretty oblivious to it, so.
The worst story (which is true) is a friend of mine came out and his dad literally had a heart attack.
They guilt tripped that guy for fucking years.
"Going to meet gays? You can't use our car. After what happened to your father..." blah blah.
After a few years he finally said fuck that and left and told them not to talk to him until they would stop guilt tripping him.
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Also
one of the lead guys at my job who will be training me posted stuff in protest of the same-sex marriage ban in NC which relaxed some of my fears re: the fact that I'll be sharing a dorm with a bunch of guys for the summer, which is a new experience for me. Especially considering the job, I was unsure what kind of attitudes there'd be toward homosexuality, but everyone seems really cool.
"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde
I "pass" for straight I suppose as well. I have certainly told people in work scenarios or what-have-you that were surprised. But also many straight people can be pretty oblivious to it, so.
I am pretty oblivious. I mean even when a dude could be super flamingly obviously gay and I'd probably just assume he isn't because I don't wan to be presumptuous. That might be a dick thing to do though... But I really don't think anyone's sexual preferences are my business anyway. Gay or straight, whatevs! Do your job!
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one of the lead guys at my job who will be training me posted stuff in protest of the same-sex marriage ban in NC which relaxed some of my fears re: the fact that I'll be sharing a dorm with a bunch of guys for the summer, which is a new experience for me. Especially considering the job, I was unsure what kind of attitudes there'd be toward homosexuality, but everyone seems really cool.
If you had a valuable coin would you donate it to a coin collector or a coin conniseur?
I'm just sayin'.
I don't know what I'm saying, actually.
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facetiousa wit so dryit shits sandRegistered Userregular
edited May 2012
My gaydar is pretty bad for the most part. Barring a dude having a poodle, it's really hit or miss.
except for fictional characters for some odd reason. (One notable exception being Dumbledore, but I'd wondered briefly before getting distracted by the amazingness that was Deathly Hallows and don't test me on this or you will GET CUT and then not thinking about it for a while until the big reveal.)
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"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde
Oh here's one: HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE/USE/LEVEL-UP GAYDAR?
I am the worst at this. Frustrating levels of bad.
It depends. Also going to DigiPen nearly broke me.
It turns out nerds have really bad social cues. There are some spectacularly flamboyant yet ENTIRELY heterosexual guys. @Rankenphile can back me up on this. One guy in particular. He's a cool guy and is very supportive of gays, but isn't gay.
Allegedly.
(I'd have bet $500 that he was and lost, apparently. I still dunno if I believe that.)
I am pretty oblivious. I mean even when a dude could be super flamingly obviously gay and I'd probably just assume he isn't because I don't wan to be presumptuous. That might be a dick thing to do though... But I really don't think anyone's sexual preferences are my business anyway. Gay or straight, whatevs! Do your job!
I "pass" for straight I suppose as well. I have certainly told people in work scenarios or what-have-you that were surprised. But also many straight people can be pretty oblivious to it, so.
I can vouch for this.
You didn't know at PAX? Oh mannnn
I think I knew before that?
I dunno, I've known for a while now, so it's kind of hard for me to remember when I first found out.
Either way though, even if I had known before PAX, I still probably wouldn't have had any trouble believing that people had you pegged as straight.
Not that it matters either way.
EDIT: Is that an asshole thing to say? Sorry, I'm having an attack of conscience, and I'm not sure if it's entirely warranted.
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I often need to remind myself of how lucky I am in the family game
I am 100% sure that if I came out in any way to my family this is what would happen:
My dad would say "ok!" then make a joke
My mum would literally be super happy about it if it made me happy
My brothers would barely even notice
My sisters-in-law would dance around and applaud
What ever happened to fiz and redeemer? I haven't seen them around in forever
Hiya. Like Neville said, Redi and I are mostly twitter folk now. I sometimes post in the pokemon forums if something amazing happens in the anime or a new game comes out. Otherwise, I just visit the forums to read the new comics and see if people are talking about Nads.
actually I found it hilarious during the interview, I asked if I could bring my PC and she was like, oh yeah, there are two guys who asked to share a room this summer because they're big gamers. I responded, "I've gotta meet those guys!"
also apparently I won't be the only one who loves to play out in the rain, which came up when I asked about the weather. I love the rain.
"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde
I would imagine Strong Sad to be asexual more than anything else, honestly.
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So I have, at least on 2 occasions, questioned my heterosexuality. I mean, I kind of consider it odd if you don't. Like, putting up an ignorant wall in regards to
What ever happened to fiz and redeemer? I haven't seen them around in forever
Hiya. Like Neville said, Redi and I are mostly twitter folk now. I sometimes post in the pokemon forums if something amazing happens in the anime or a new game comes out. Otherwise, I just visit the forums to read the new comics and see if people are talking about Nads.
Give Nads a hug for me man.
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My mom actually asked me if I was gay because of a long story.
She asked expecting me to say I wasn't.
She said she was fine with it... then apparently cried for a week. But that was about 10 years ago, so things are fine now.
Like any good southern family, we generally don't discuss it. :P
I'm not treating it like.. the single most joyous moment ever or anything, but it's still worth being hopeful about!
Steam: Chagrin LoL: Bonhomie
I couldn't watch the actual scene because that was distracting
Basically, has anyone just treated you negatively on the basis of your sexuality, then used religion as a pretext for it?
EDIT: I mean, I've met a couple other avowed Christians who were pro gay rights, but I'm wondering if we're the exception rather than the rule.
Um. Diablo 3?
>_>
or... me?
I mean... YOU! Of course, it is you!
Awesome. I loved transformers. I didn't play with dolls as a kid. I had he-man, G.I. Joe, Transformers, etc.
And they all fought the crap out of one another.
Fiz posts occasionally. Deemer doesn't.
Both of them are fairly active on twitter, though.
Brightly-coloured boutonnières. Especially if they're posies.
Steam: Chagrin LoL: Bonhomie
Question, Nevs: is it cowardice to hide your bisexuality from co-workers, knowing that it avoids complications from conservative corporate heads and potential loss of friendship with some work friends? Because I feel like chicken shit a lot over this.
3DS FC: 4699-5714-8940 Playing Pokemon, add me! Ho, SATAN!
Was it you? :winky:
Not really, but again I came out fully when I lived in Seattle, where most people are pretty open minded. Even if they don't agree with your views, they generally won't shove em down your throat.
I've gotten better about genuinely not caring if people know though. And I mean that both ways - I don't care if they do know, and I don't care if they don't. :P
It's helped since I joined facebook and put it in my profile, as silly as that sounds. At least now I feel like if people want to know it's there.
Steam: Chagrin LoL: Bonhomie
Sorry, that's kind of a bad question.
Maybe I should just start going to Catholic churches I don't attend regularly and leave survey forms.
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Not at all. Co-workers are just that. I don't necessarily flaunt it, although my coworkers are all friends with me on facebook, and I hide nothing there. But if you don't feel like sharing, then don't.
Although I'd personally say anyone who wouldn't be your friend because of it isn't your friend at all. But I've been in your place before so I get that.
I "pass" for straight I suppose as well. I have certainly told people in work scenarios or what-have-you that were surprised. But also many straight people can be pretty oblivious to it, so.
I can vouch for this.
I'm still totally straight though, guys. Uh, I mean ladies. Wait I'm married. Shit!
@MetroidZoid Give it time.
The worst story (which is true) is a friend of mine came out and his dad literally had a heart attack.
They guilt tripped that guy for fucking years.
"Going to meet gays? You can't use our car. After what happened to your father..." blah blah.
After a few years he finally said fuck that and left and told them not to talk to him until they would stop guilt tripping him.
god damn right
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
one of the lead guys at my job who will be training me posted stuff in protest of the same-sex marriage ban in NC which relaxed some of my fears re: the fact that I'll be sharing a dorm with a bunch of guys for the summer, which is a new experience for me. Especially considering the job, I was unsure what kind of attitudes there'd be toward homosexuality, but everyone seems really cool.
Steam: Chagrin LoL: Bonhomie
Damnit. Of all the times to black out.
You didn't know at PAX? Oh mannnn
I'm still not giving you dikpix.
Keith's first in that line anyway.
I am the worst at this. Frustrating levels of bad.
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It has been too long since I commented on how wonderful @#pipe is. But he is. He is one of my favorite, favorite people!
That's pretty cool. Dorm eh?
If you had a valuable coin would you donate it to a coin collector or a coin conniseur?
I'm just sayin'.
except for fictional characters for some odd reason. (One notable exception being Dumbledore, but I'd wondered briefly before getting distracted by the amazingness that was Deathly Hallows and don't test me on this or you will GET CUT and then not thinking about it for a while until the big reveal.)
Steam: Chagrin LoL: Bonhomie
It depends. Also going to DigiPen nearly broke me.
It turns out nerds have really bad social cues. There are some spectacularly flamboyant yet ENTIRELY heterosexual guys.
@Rankenphile can back me up on this. One guy in particular. He's a cool guy and is very supportive of gays, but isn't gay.
Allegedly.
(I'd have bet $500 that he was and lost, apparently. I still dunno if I believe that.)
Making out with them might be a good test.
I think I knew before that?
I dunno, I've known for a while now, so it's kind of hard for me to remember when I first found out.
Either way though, even if I had known before PAX, I still probably wouldn't have had any trouble believing that people had you pegged as straight.
Not that it matters either way.
EDIT: Is that an asshole thing to say? Sorry, I'm having an attack of conscience, and I'm not sure if it's entirely warranted.
I am 100% sure that if I came out in any way to my family this is what would happen:
My dad would say "ok!" then make a joke
My mum would literally be super happy about it if it made me happy
My brothers would barely even notice
My sisters-in-law would dance around and applaud
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Hiya. Like Neville said, Redi and I are mostly twitter folk now. I sometimes post in the pokemon forums if something amazing happens in the anime or a new game comes out. Otherwise, I just visit the forums to read the new comics and see if people are talking about Nads.
Also, given that gays are stereotypically fastidious and tidy, is the gay agenda an actual agenda?
Have some images!
I really have no idea how that last one came about.
Strong Sad always seemed kinda gay, but eh.
Ouch.
actually I found it hilarious during the interview, I asked if I could bring my PC and she was like, oh yeah, there are two guys who asked to share a room this summer because they're big gamers. I responded, "I've gotta meet those guys!"
also apparently I won't be the only one who loves to play out in the rain, which came up when I asked about the weather. I love the rain.
Steam: Chagrin LoL: Bonhomie
Give Nads a hug for me man.
Nice.
I suppose recursive boners could be bad.
You could overflow the stack then lose all your boners.
Ah, nerds.
the NEW me?