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The American Presidency: The Once and Future Elections Thread
enlightenedbum
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Hey, remember when our Presidency threads were awesome and we analyzed polls obsessively and had people on the ground in lots of states and it was like a little organizing community all up ins instead of getting off on 10 pages of meaningless tangents that get Jeffe to come yell at us and threaten us with taking our toys away? Let's do that again!
Therefore, it's once again the American Presidency thread. In this thread, we are to:
Do:
Talk about Mitt Romney's tax returns!
Bemoan our media's inability to call bullshit on contextectomies.
Speculate about the Republican VP choice!
Talk about ads we find interesting!
Link polls! Analyze the internals therein!
Sadly link the monthly job reports and weekly unemployment claims numbers!
Liveblog The Rachel Maddow Show when relevant (Preacher and me mostly)!
Laugh at Rush Limbaugh's stupid conspiracy theories!
Discuss largely meaningless tactics from the two sides!
Tell people to vote!
Argue about on topic stuff!
Do not:
Engage in 10 page tangents about, say, the definition of the internet that distract from anything meaningful!
Contribute nothing other than tell another poster he's a useless loser who makes shit up. If you feel you must, call him or her a goose once and then stop responding to them.
Be a dick!
Current happenings:
Barack Obama has a slim lead in the popular vote polls and a more robust lead in the electoral college, with Romney needing to pull a clean sweep of all the states we could vaguely label as toss ups at this point in time. 538 has him a 2 to 1favorite to win re-election, for example.
Mitt Romney continues to be pressed to release his tax returns. 54% of the country would like him to, 37% thinks he doesn't need to, with the rest undecided or don't know, according to a recent poll from Gallup.
He is also being pressed on exactly when he left Bain Capital. As he does not want to be associated with them from 1999-2002. Except the good stuff, like Staples hiring lots of people. That is his doing. Just not the bad stuff like outsourcing or the stuff his base wouldn't like, like Bain's association with Stericycle.
The Romney camp has leaked that a VP pick is "soon" which seems unlikely what with the Olympics starting next week and drowning out a lot of coverage. The rumored leaders are Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, and Rob Portman of Ohio. All three are pretty boring individuals, though Jindal would obviously be a first for the Indian American community. Paul Ryan from Wisconsin is the dark horse and a suicidal pick.
The major Romney attack on Obama is ripping a quote violently out of context to claim Obama "doesn't understand America" because the Romney campaign is classy like that. Implications that he is foreign and un-American have abounded the last week as the Romney camp has struggled to fend off the tax attacks. John Sununu has been a particularly egregious offender.
Therefore, it's once again the American Presidency thread. In this thread, we are to:
Do:
Talk about Mitt Romney's tax returns!
Bemoan our media's inability to call bullshit on contextectomies.
Speculate about the Republican VP choice!
Talk about ads we find interesting!
Link polls! Analyze the internals therein!
Sadly link the monthly job reports and weekly unemployment claims numbers!
Liveblog The Rachel Maddow Show when relevant (Preacher and me mostly)!
Laugh at Rush Limbaugh's stupid conspiracy theories!
Discuss largely meaningless tactics from the two sides!
Tell people to vote!
Argue about on topic stuff!
Do not:
Engage in 10 page tangents about, say, the definition of the internet that distract from anything meaningful!
Contribute nothing other than tell another poster he's a useless loser who makes shit up. If you feel you must, call him or her a goose once and then stop responding to them.
Be a dick!
Current happenings:
Barack Obama has a slim lead in the popular vote polls and a more robust lead in the electoral college, with Romney needing to pull a clean sweep of all the states we could vaguely label as toss ups at this point in time. 538 has him a 2 to 1favorite to win re-election, for example.
Mitt Romney continues to be pressed to release his tax returns. 54% of the country would like him to, 37% thinks he doesn't need to, with the rest undecided or don't know, according to a recent poll from Gallup.
He is also being pressed on exactly when he left Bain Capital. As he does not want to be associated with them from 1999-2002. Except the good stuff, like Staples hiring lots of people. That is his doing. Just not the bad stuff like outsourcing or the stuff his base wouldn't like, like Bain's association with Stericycle.
The Romney camp has leaked that a VP pick is "soon" which seems unlikely what with the Olympics starting next week and drowning out a lot of coverage. The rumored leaders are Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, and Rob Portman of Ohio. All three are pretty boring individuals, though Jindal would obviously be a first for the Indian American community. Paul Ryan from Wisconsin is the dark horse and a suicidal pick.
The major Romney attack on Obama is ripping a quote violently out of context to claim Obama "doesn't understand America" because the Romney campaign is classy like that. Implications that he is foreign and un-American have abounded the last week as the Romney camp has struggled to fend off the tax attacks. John Sununu has been a particularly egregious offender.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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The horse is only three or four times the average American's income level, and might help better connect with upper middle class voters
battletag: Millin#1360
Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
At least we know where Rafalca was born!
I think this is a good thing to add. Is it a good thing to add? I think it's a good thing to add.
I'm guessing Romney will probably pick Portman, but he might pick a Paul to shut them up.
it just seems kind of like the next step.
I know it's not going to happen.
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Confirmed: that is, the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
. . . Suddenly the horse thing goes from silly stupid to being another stupid gaffe for Romney. o_O
battletag: Millin#1360
Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
It's funny working for all rich people, and hearing them bitch constantly about Obama for stupid or untrue reasons. One guy took me aside and was telling me how he wished someone would put a bullet in Obama. And this guy isn't crazy at all normally! He's a really smart successful guy! And he was talking 'bout murder!
Um, wow.
Also, The Secret Service would be interested in that dude!
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tbh, Mitt's horse is pretty cool and that they bothered with the horse for the wife's health is sweet, why don't they feature the damn horse in ads? "THIS IS RAFALCA. LOOK AT HIM NIBBLE CARROTS AND SUGAR CUBES. HE'S THE NICEST CLEVEREST HORSE AND HE WANTS TO BE THE PRESIDENTIAL PET. MAKE HIS DREAMS COME TRUE. ROMNEY 2012". In all seriousness they could make the family horse an endearing asset if they tried.
the wiki article listing the various presidential pets is interesting. Apparently James Madison had both silkworms and . . . an alligator?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_pets
Jesus Christ that's some Grade A USDA Prime Choice Stupid.
Like, even ignoring the fact that that's insane, can you imagine what the first black president getting assassinated would do to this country?
Jesus, people.
If anything the feigned insult on Anne Romney's part makes me despise the woman and her husband even more. Yeah, I get MS is a terrible thing but when you demand to get sympathy for it while supporting a platform to royally fuck over many others who also suffer from it because of "fuck you, got mine." Well all I can feel for a person at that point is contempt because Anne Romney certainly has it easier than most people who have been diagnosed with MS and if she were a decent human being, she should be bitching slapping her hubby for not supporting ACA which would help many others who have been diagnosed with MS.
battletag: Millin#1360
Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
This joke is a lot easier to understand when you understand that horse is slang for heroin. And a lot more depressing.
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Yeah, he doesn't think Obama's doing a good job supporting Israel in every way always forever, so that qualifies him to get his brains blown out, apparently.
Wow you work for Sheldon Adelson? Than you definately should report him to the secret service.
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Swing and a miss. You're on the right track though. Not that I really want you to go down this road. It leads to dark places.
That's why?!
Ugh. I'm sorry you have to deal with that.
The worst I get is my racist family. And even they don't think Obama should get shot.
Though my grandma did wish that someone took a shot at Bush's entourage while he was in Iraq one thanksgiving after my cousin came home with his throat all fucked up from the war.
The horse has fuck-all to do with any sort of qualifications for being President. It has nothing to do with Mitt Romney's strength of character (or lack thereof). That man has shown no traits that make for a good leader of our government.
He's got an awesome horse, though.
Goddamnit. Autocorrect. Posting from phone. I fixed where it turned "show" into "shoe" at least.
Fucking marrow. Damn you, Samsung. Damn you to hell.
No, the X-Men character. She discusses politics, fights giant robots, and complains about her mutant power being prehensile bones. Still more informative than "Good Morning Wolverine" or "Ms. Marvell's The Superview"
Well, thanks. That makes it sad now.
She doesn't do investigative journalism. She just puts facts together, usually in a compelling way.
Related: read her book. You'll HATE Reagan at the end of it.
but i have so much backlog now.
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I thought about buying it, but then I started the Game of Thrones books. Ms. Maddow is going to have to wait a little while for me to get back to her.
Rafalca should bear all the pride, he did all the dancing! For reals though the horse tangent is ridic and I'm not really bothered that they have him, just the image of a dancing horse in inherently silly.
battletag: Millin#1360
Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
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I haven't actually read it, but I have read some of his articles that were basically short versions with less data plunging and he makes some useful points while overlooking a lot of the fucked up things about the past. I mean, the system is definitely rigged now in a way that it wasn't back then...but a lot of it was still pretty fucking rigged back then. It just gets overlooked or framed as a different societal aspect. So, basically, focus on the critiques and ignore the nostalgia.
it's amazing how much of our dynasty families can be traced back to those filthy rich puritan merchants
Who do you work for, Stormfront?