Yeah i thought he panicked and put kilnaga up on top again. I was just going by what people said since I'm too lazy to count on my own, though. Maybe my own spreadsheet would be prudent.
Yeah i thought he panicked and put kilnaga up on top again. I was just going by what people said since I'm too lazy to count on my own, though. Maybe my own spreadsheet would be prudent.
Ohh, no. I definitely should have died with where the votes were.
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Not even counting the at least +3 vote switch we had 3 mafia kills, 2 village and 1 SK,
eep in a 30 person game that is 20% stabbiness
Assuming we can trust the narration for where kills came from.
Well, one of the mafia kills was attributed to the wolfman, who we killed last night. So we should have at least one less kill tonight hopefully.
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Shiny New Toyswhere am i?its dark in hereRegistered Userregular
Thinking about the vote manipulation as Slym was 2 behind Kilnaga the person would only have to move it up to a draw to possibly target SlyM
The people who voted for SlyM were
Kilnaga, Zombie Hero, Egos, kime, Megafrost, Delphinidaes.
ZH called a kill so probably doesn't have vote manipulation as well
Megafrost was a mason so similar reasoning
Egos was named as a villager, so no special powers for him.
So for vote manipulation, Kilnaga, kime or Delphinidaes is my short list.
This is assuming that the vote manipulation is a +x on their current vote, not a PM me your actual vote that counts for x
Thinking about the vote manipulation as Slym was 2 behind Kilnaga the person would only have to move it up to a draw to possibly target SlyM
The people who voted for SlyM were
Kilnaga, Zombie Hero, Egos, kime, Megafrost, Delphinidaes.
ZH called a kill so probably doesn't have vote manipulation as well
Megafrost was a mason so similar reasoning
Egos was named as a villager, so no special powers for him.
So for vote manipulation, Kilnaga, kime or Delphinidaes is my short list.
This is assuming that the vote manipulation is a +x on their current vote, not a PM me your actual vote that counts for x
Yeah, if it is a form of weighted vote manipulation, the list of possibilities as to the culprit is rather small. However, it could be a form of vote negation, or some kind of combination of both. Really no way to know for sure at this point.
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Shiny New Toyswhere am i?its dark in hereRegistered Userregular
@Kilnaga you get the feeling we are the only ones awake? :P
Cool, updated the vote to fix the mistakes. I hope it isn't still missing votes. Yeah, I'm thinking what we're dealing with is either one or a combination of the following:
1. Weighted vote manipulation. I'm pretty sure this is involved. We could have up to two vote manips. If there are two, I'm willing to bet one is mafia.
2. Vote negation. It's possible, narration might not indicate tied votes and a weighted vote manip on SLyM with a vote negation on Kilnaga would result in a tied.
3. Given the background, I'm willing to entertain the idea of a role, say ghost, where instead of the vote counting as one, it counts as zero.
1. Monster votes count as zero, which means there is at least one more mafia on the nagawagon. They may or may not know.
2. Kilnaga is a vote immune SK
My guess is that there are more mafia than the three, maybe with the vote manip power or something else nasty besides vig. We'll see.
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3 vigs and 'something nasty' seems like it stacks the odds against us, no? they must have some weird-ass handicap to make up for it. Or I'd hope so, at least.
In my Dr. Horrible game I had two people whose votes counted as 3 instead of 1. Maybe something similar is in play here? A mafia one and a village one? I mean, ties are RNGed, so if someone voted on the slym wagon and their vote counted as 3, then it would have brought it to a tie, yeah?
Without a little more to go on, it's gonna be shooting in the dark for the time being, sadly.
1. Monster votes count as zero, which means there is at least one more mafia on the nagawagon. They may or may not know.
2. Kilnaga is a vote immune SK
My guess is that there are more mafia than the three, maybe with the vote manip power or something else nasty besides vig. We'll see.
Both theories are possible, but from long time player experience which is more likely? I have seen (in the past 2 months) two phallas with specials that have the ability to be saved from the first attempt to vote them out, but none with a null vote mechanic for mafia.
@Kilnaga you get the feeling we are the only ones awake? :P
If this were a modern horror movie you guys would have looked for a place to make out. And been promptly eaten while doing so. Kudos for your restraint, responsible teens!
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A traditional mafia is 15% - 20% which would be 4-6 but then a traditional mafia doesn't have quite so many kills.
If someone did shift the vote, they did it to save Kilnaga,
If he is vote immune the first time that could mean something nasty if he is not vote out again.
Despite nearing vote close it looked very close there was very little shifting of votes, with only 8 people changing their votes in all of Day 1. 2 people switching off Kilnaga,(Obi and Matev) and 3 people switching onto Kilnaga (jdarksun, SlyM and Saber)
I originally was thinking that maybe someones previous votes also counted, but it doesn't work with the numbers.
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Shiny New Toyswhere am i?its dark in hereRegistered Userregular
@Kilnaga you get the feeling we are the only ones awake? :P
If this were a modern horror movie you guys would have looked for a place to make out. And been promptly eaten while doing so. Kudos for your restraint, responsible teens!
Where we I have put my pitchfork and flaming torch while this make out occurred?
Seconds thoughts don't answer that!
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@Kilnaga you get the feeling we are the only ones awake? :P
If this were a modern horror movie you guys would have looked for a place to make out. And been promptly eaten while doing so. Kudos for your restraint, responsible teens!
Where we I have put my pitchfork and flaming torch while this make out occurred?
Seconds thoughts don't answer that!
Ever heard about a position called the eternal.flame?
First you <whisper> and then he <whisper> and then you grab <whisper> and then it goes over your head
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Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
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Was that a silver stake?
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Well clearly a Vote Manipulator out there loves me.
Alternately, Stever can't maths.
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Yeah i thought he panicked and put kilnaga up on top again. I was just going by what people said since I'm too lazy to count on my own, though. Maybe my own spreadsheet would be prudent.
Ohh, no. I definitely should have died with where the votes were.
- Terence McKenna
Not me.
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Why I oughtta
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No.
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
Kilnaga: 8 (Anialos, Mill, Delmain, SaberOverEasy, blahmcblah, Matev, ObiFett, SLyM, Langly, jdarksun)
SLyM: 6 (Delphinidaes, Zombie Hero, SLyM, Kilnaga, kime, Egos, Megafrost, jdarksun
Kime: 3 (Kilnaga, MrTLicious, Egos, Matev, Typhus733, SLyM)
TheRoadVirus: 2 (Maximus, Cythraul)
ObiFett: 2 (Sir Fabulous, jdarksun, Shiny New Toys)
SaberOverEasy: 2 (TheRoadVirus, ObiFett)
Megafrost: 1 (The Anonymous)
MrTLicious: 1 (SaberOverEasy, warban)
Langly: 1 (Assuran)
Typhus733: 1 (Koan)
Premium: 1 (Gizzy)
Zombie Hero: 1 (premium)
Matev: 1 (Kaplar)
Shiny New Toys: 0 (ObiFett)
Delmain: 0 (SLyM, Typhus733)
I hate having to do the vote count, damn monsters had to kill Megafrost. Give me a heads up if I screwed something up.
battletag: Millin#1360
Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
Lots of death and blatant vote manipulation*
- Terence McKenna
eep in a 30 person game that is 20% stabbiness
Assuming we can trust the narration for where kills came from.
Well, one of the mafia kills was attributed to the wolfman, who we killed last night. So we should have at least one less kill tonight hopefully.
- Terence McKenna
The people who voted for SlyM were
Kilnaga, Zombie Hero, Egos, kime, Megafrost, Delphinidaes.
ZH called a kill so probably doesn't have vote manipulation as well
Megafrost was a mason so similar reasoning
Egos was named as a villager, so no special powers for him.
So for vote manipulation, Kilnaga, kime or Delphinidaes is my short list.
This is assuming that the vote manipulation is a +x on their current vote, not a PM me your actual vote that counts for x
Yeah, if it is a form of weighted vote manipulation, the list of possibilities as to the culprit is rather small. However, it could be a form of vote negation, or some kind of combination of both. Really no way to know for sure at this point.
- Terence McKenna
It is quite possible. I'm awake all night, this is closing in on bed time for me. :P
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1. Weighted vote manipulation. I'm pretty sure this is involved. We could have up to two vote manips. If there are two, I'm willing to bet one is mafia.
2. Vote negation. It's possible, narration might not indicate tied votes and a weighted vote manip on SLyM with a vote negation on Kilnaga would result in a tied.
3. Given the background, I'm willing to entertain the idea of a role, say ghost, where instead of the vote counting as one, it counts as zero.
battletag: Millin#1360
Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
More like Frankenjerk
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1. Monster votes count as zero, which means there is at least one more mafia on the nagawagon. They may or may not know.
2. Kilnaga is a vote immune SK
My guess is that there are more mafia than the three, maybe with the vote manip power or something else nasty besides vig. We'll see.
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In my Dr. Horrible game I had two people whose votes counted as 3 instead of 1. Maybe something similar is in play here? A mafia one and a village one? I mean, ties are RNGed, so if someone voted on the slym wagon and their vote counted as 3, then it would have brought it to a tie, yeah?
Without a little more to go on, it's gonna be shooting in the dark for the time being, sadly.
Both theories are possible, but from long time player experience which is more likely? I have seen (in the past 2 months) two phallas with specials that have the ability to be saved from the first attempt to vote them out, but none with a null vote mechanic for mafia.
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If this were a modern horror movie you guys would have looked for a place to make out. And been promptly eaten while doing so. Kudos for your restraint, responsible teens!
If someone did shift the vote, they did it to save Kilnaga,
If he is vote immune the first time that could mean something nasty if he is not vote out again.
Despite nearing vote close it looked very close there was very little shifting of votes, with only 8 people changing their votes in all of Day 1. 2 people switching off Kilnaga,(Obi and Matev) and 3 people switching onto Kilnaga (jdarksun, SlyM and Saber)
I originally was thinking that maybe someones previous votes also counted, but it doesn't work with the numbers.
Where we I have put my pitchfork and flaming torch while this make out occurred?
Seconds thoughts don't answer that!
Ever heard about a position called the eternal.flame?
First you <whisper> and then he <whisper> and then you grab <whisper> and then it goes over your head
I believe this is my very first day one death! (*)
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