DanacyrusGaming Coffee Making MusicianBrisbaneRegistered Userregular
edited November 2012
Okay, let me put it this way, the orange cap does nothing in terms of distinguishing the 'imitation weapon' if you look through the new laws in Victoria you will see imitation weapons WITH the orange cap which are ILLEGAL. Thus making it pointless to destroy your prop with orange paint for the purpose of 'distinguishing an imitation weapon'. If you are not allowed it without the orange, you're not allowed it WITH the orange. The orange is now irrelevant. All your doing is destroying your hard work.
Look at it this way...
The orange caps were once the 'mid point' the grey zone. Now its black and white, it either resembles a gun, or it doesn't. Unless you're wanting to pain the whole gun fluro orange, the addition of colour to a square inch of the gun is irrelevant. It needs to be large portions of the gun to make a difference.
Putting the cap on the gun can't hurt, but it won't save you if the gun otherwise looks realistic. Danacyrus is right in that it makes very little difference.
{IANAL, It goes without saying, but nothing in this post is to be taken as legal advice. If you're unsure about anything, either see a real lawyer (practicing in Victoria), or leave the prop at home. Everything in this post is based on http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=32717 and in particular the first link in the text of that page.}
To restate what I said earlier in this thread, a prop is acceptable iff (if and only if) it "cannot be mistaken [for a] working [firearm] by the general
public, and [does] not have the functionality of working firearms." The orange cap helps with this slightly, but its not determinative by any means; there's nothing stopping would-be criminals from spraypainting the tip of their glock. For a prop to be considered a toy (as opposed to an imitation firearm), it will need to have at least one of the following characteristics:
• Their shape and size is of a kind not associated with a working firearm; and/or
• The barrel and/or butt is of a colour not normally associated with a working firearm, particularly if it is bright, fluorescent, or multicoloured; and/or
• The composition suggests it is clearly manufactured using material of a kind not associated with a working firearm—such as transparent or coloured plastic.
Applying this to your case, although the shape is based on a scifi design, I'm not sure that it is sufficiently distinguished from a real gun as to be "not normally associated" and I would say the same for the colour, although that is probably more easily arguable. The fact that it is made from plastic and MDF is only relevant if it is immediately visually apparent, and the paint may well obscure this fact (its hard to tell from those photos. While you only need one of the three, none of them are clear-cut. My gut reaction is that it seems like it shouldn't be mistaken for a real gun, but I am hardly an expert in either firearms or Victorian firearms laws. I can only say that you should look into this more carefully before bringing the prop - better safe than sorry when it comes to law enforcement.
Your prop needs to be inspected prior to entry to PAX, and it if accepted it will be tagged (though you can choose where the tag goes). If an enforcer sees your prop and you cannot show that it has been tagged, bad things can happen.
Also, as far as legal issues go, just having it in a bag is not sufficient. If the police have reason to search the bag and find an imitation firearm, you're in just as much trouble as if you had been carrying it openly. It's less likely that they would search the bag than just see you, obviously, but it's not a defence if you do get caught. I wouldn't recommend risking it. If you're unsure enough to think that you need to hide it, you should probably reconsider bringing it in the first place.
As always, IANAL, and you should do your own research and come to your own conclusions.
I need ideas..I did cosplay when I was a teenager and a massive Starwars Geek (yeh one of those guys :P) , but now being an oldie (31 ) I feel like actually doing a decent cosplay at PAX, but am struggling with choosing something. I was thinking something like a transformer, but being that PAX is more a gaming convention, do people cosplay as tv/movies/comics etc rather than from gaming genres? Or are people going to be staring at me wondering how I got lost looking for Supernova / Comicon / insert other generic festival here?
mod edit: Giant unverifiable law faq part1(Verified via www.police.vic.gov.au)(copy pasterd)
From 1 July 2011, there have been changes to what constitutes imitation firearms,
and the way in which they are regulated in the state of Victoria. This guide will assist
you to distinguish whether an item is classified as an imitation firearm, a toy, or
firearm themed paraphernalia.
It is important to make these distinctions as the unlawful manufacture, importation,
purchase, ownership, carriage and/or use of imitation firearms can lead to penalties
for non compliance.
IMITATION FIREARMS
In the state of Victoria, items that have the appearance of working
firearms, but not the functionality, are classified as imitation firearms.
Imitation firearms are increasingly made to look remarkably similar to real
firearms, and can be made of any substance (metal, plastic, rubber, etc.)
to resemble either a longarm (rifle, shotgun, or machinegun) or handgun
(revolver or pistol).
Whilst these items cannot cause death or injury by shooting projectiles,
they can nonetheless cause public alarm due to their similarity in
appearance to working firearms. Even items that remotely resemble
firearms could be easily mistaken as working firearms in certain
circumstances and depending on factors such as lighting conditions,
distance from the object, the viewer’s knowledge of firearms and/or
circumstances in which they are carried.
A Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval or Governor in
Council Exemption is required to possess, carry, use, offer for sale or
import an imitation firearm.
TOY FIREARMS
As a general rule, toy firearms are considered items that resemble
firearms, but cannot be mistaken as working firearms by the general
public, and do not have the functionality of working firearms. As such, toy
firearms can be lawfully possessed by anyone within the State of Victoria.
The defining characteristics of toy firearms are:
1. They are solely manufactured and used for the purpose of a
plaything or for providing amusement; and
2. Their method of operation (if applicable) falls outside the definition
of a firearm in the Firearms Act 1996; and
3. They have a resemblance to a firearm, however their appearance
cannot be mistaken for a working firearm by a reasonable person
due to the presence of at least one of the following characteristics:
• Their shape and size is of a kind not associated with a working
firearm; and/or
• The barrel and/or butt is of a colour not normally associated with a
working firearm, particularly if it is bright, fluorescent, or multi
coloured; and/or
• The composition suggests it is clearly manufactured using material
of a kind not associated with a working firearm—such as
transparent or coloured plastic.
======
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS Are imitation firearms and replica firearms the same thing?
No. The term ‘replica firearm’ is often incorrectly used to describe
imitation firearms. A replica firearm is a copy of a working firearm, and has
the same functionality. This means that not only does a replica look
identical to the working firearm it is copying, but it also functions in the
same way by firing bullets, shots or other similar projectiles.
Owners of replica firearms must possess a firearms licence, and the replica
must be registered under the Firearms Act 1996. For this reason, it is
important that the terms ‘replica firearm’ and ‘imitation firearm’ not be
confused.
Do I require a licence to own an imitation firearm?
As of 1 July 2011, imitation firearms will be classified as ‘prohibited
weapons’. Owners of prohibited weapons do not require a firearms
licence, but do require a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons
Approval unless they are subject to a Governor in Council Exemption.
Do I require a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval if I
already have a firearms licence for my imitation handguns?
Current Victorian firearm licence holders with imitation firearms attached
(issued under Part 2 of the Firearms Act 1996 prior to 1 July 2011) can
continue to hold onto – but not obtain further imitation firearms, until
such time as the licence expires – at which time a Chief Commissioner’s
Prohibited Weapons Approval or Governor in Council Exemption will be
required.
Can I make a toy look more realistic?
Yes, however if the modifications make the toy resemble a working
firearm, it could be considered to be an imitation firearm. In this case you
will need either a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval or a
Governor in Council Exemption.
What does a Chief Commissioners Weapons Approval or a Governor in
Council Exemption allow me to do?
One of these authorities will allow you to manufacture, possess, carry, use,
sell or import an imitation firearm in the state of Victoria from 1 July 2011
How do I apply for a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons
Approval?
To apply for a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval, you
must complete and submit an application form, available on the Victoria
Police, Licensing & Regulation Division website located at www.police.vic.gov.au/weapons, and then select ‘Chief Commissioner’s
Approval’ from the left hand navigation bar.
How do I apply for a Governor in Council Exemption?
Exemptions are managed by the Department of Justice and published in
the Government Gazette. Governor in Council Exemptions are issued for
groups (e.g. collectors clubs and historical/performing arts re‐enactment
groups), but not to individuals. To apply for a Governor in Council
Exemption email jpenquiries@justice.vic.gov.au or for further information
visit the Department of Justice website at www.justice.vic.gov.au.
How can I dispose of my imitation firearms?
You may sell imitation firearms to a licensed firearms dealer, or any person
who holds a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval or a
Governor in Council Exemption for that particular weapon type; or you
may surrender the imitation firearms to a police station for destruction.
Is my imitation longarm still covered by the amnesty?
No. The imitation longarm amnesty will cease from 30 June 2011, at
which time possession of imitation longarms will require a Chief
Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval, or a Governor in Council
Exemption. However, until 31 December 2011, Police will exercise
discretion provided you are taking the necessary steps to legalise your
position ‐ such as obtaining an Approval or Exemption, or disposing the
imitation longarm to a Licensed Firearms Dealer.
Do I need to register my imitation firearm?
No. There are no registration requirements for prohibited weapons,
including imitation firearms.
Is there a limit to how many imitation firearms I can possess under a
Chief Commissioner’s Weapons Approval or a Governor in Council
Exemption?
No. As there is no requirement to register imitation firearms, there is no
limit as to the amount that can be possessed once a Chief Commissioner’s
Prohibited Weapons Approval or Governor in Council Exemption is
obtained, unless otherwise specified by condition.
How must I store my imitation firearms?
From 1 July 2011 imitation handguns and longarms must be stored safely
and securely in a manner to ensure that:
• The devices are not readily accessible to others;
• The devices are not available for possession, carriage or use by
others unless they are also holders of a Chief Commissioner of
Police Approval (Prohibited Weapons) issued for the same reason
or are otherwise exempt (if applicable); and
• When being transported between the usual place of storage and
places at which the devices are legitimately used (reason of
which is stated in this authority), they are stored in a manner that
is not readily accessible to others and concealed from plain sight.
========
I hope this helps those who wish to take imitation guns to PAX in Victoria.
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WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH?
From 1 July 2011, there have been changes to what constitutes imitation firearms,
and the way in which they are regulated in the state of Victoria. This guide will assist
you to distinguish whether an item is classified as an imitation firearm, a toy, or
firearm themed paraphernalia.
It is important to make these distinctions as the unlawful manufacture, importation,
purchase, ownership, carriage and/or use of imitation firearms can lead to penalties
for non compliance.
DISTINGUISHING IMITATION FIREARMS FROM TOYS
All four products illustrated below were manufactured as ‘toys’, but only
product images 3 and 4 would be accepted as toy firearms in the State of
Victoria. (Sorry no images as this is from the police website)
It is important to note that from 1 July 2011, an item fitted with a coloured
barrel plug, as illustrated in Image 2 will no longer be treated as a toy
unless it also has obvious characteristics not associated with working
firearms, such as their shape, size and/or colour
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Are imitation firearms and replica firearms the same thing?
No. The term ‘replica firearm’ is often incorrectly used to describe
imitation firearms. A replica firearm is a copy of a working firearm, and has
the same functionality. This means that not only does a replica look
identical to the working firearm it is copying, but it also functions in the
same way by firing bullets, shots or other similar projectiles.
Owners of replica firearms must possess a firearms licence, and the replica
must be registered under the Firearms Act 1996. For this reason, it is
important that the terms ‘replica firearm’ and ‘imitation firearm’ not be
confused.
Do I require a licence to own an imitation firearm?
As of 1 July 2011, imitation firearms will be classified as ‘prohibited
weapons’. Owners of prohibited weapons do not require a firearms
licence, but do require a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons
Approval unless they are subject to a Governor in Council Exemption.
Do I require a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval if I
already have a firearms licence for my imitation handguns?
Current Victorian firearm licence holders with imitation firearms attached
(issued under Part 2 of the Firearms Act 1996 prior to 1 July 2011) can
continue to hold onto – but not obtain further imitation firearms, until
such time as the licence expires – at which time a Chief Commissioner’s
Prohibited Weapons Approval or Governor in Council Exemption will be
required.
Can I make a toy look more realistic?
Yes, however if the modifications make the toy resemble a working
firearm, it could be considered to be an imitation firearm. In this case you
will need either a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval or a
Governor in Council Exemption.
What does a Chief Commissioners Weapons Approval or a Governor in
Council Exemption allow me to do?
One of these authorities will allow you to manufacture, possess, carry, use,
sell or import an imitation firearm in the state of Victoria from 1 July 2011
(depending on your genuine reason for obtaining the authority).
How do I apply for a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons
Approval?
To apply for a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval, you
must complete and submit an application form, available on the Victoria
Police, Licensing & Regulation Division website located at www.police.vic.gov.au/weapons, and then select ‘Chief Commissioner’s
Approval’ from the left hand navigation bar.
How can I dispose of my imitation firearms?
You may sell imitation firearms to a licensed firearms dealer, or any person
who holds a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval or a
Governor in Council Exemption for that particular weapon type; or you
may surrender the imitation firearms to a police station for destruction.
Is my imitation longarm still covered by the amnesty?
No. The imitation longarm amnesty will cease from 30 June 2011, at
which time possession of imitation longarms will require a Chief
Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval, or a Governor in Council
Exemption. However, until 31 December 2011, Police will exercise
discretion provided you are taking the necessary steps to legalise your
position ‐ such as obtaining an Approval or Exemption, or disposing the
imitation longarm to a Licensed Firearms Dealer.
Do I need to register my imitation firearm?
No. There are no registration requirements for prohibited weapons,
including imitation firearms.
Is there a limit to how many imitation firearms I can possess under a
Chief Commissioner’s Weapons Approval or a Governor in Council
Exemption?
No. As there is no requirement to register imitation firearms, there is no
limit as to the amount that can be possessed once a Chief Commissioner’s
Prohibited Weapons Approval or Governor in Council Exemption is
obtained, unless otherwise specified by condition.
How must I store my imitation firearms?
From 1 July 2011 imitation handguns and longarms must be stored safely
and securely in a manner to ensure that:
• The devices are not readily accessible to others;
• The devices are not available for possession, carriage or use by
others unless they are also holders of a Chief Commissioner of
Police Approval (Prohibited Weapons) issued for the same reason
or are otherwise exempt (if applicable); and
• When being transported between the usual place of storage and
places at which the devices are legitimately used (reason of
which is stated in this authority), they are stored in a manner that
is not readily accessible to others and concealed from plain sight.
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DanacyrusGaming Coffee Making MusicianBrisbaneRegistered Userregular
How about we stop ranting about this. What needs to be said has been said five times over. It's simple. If it looks like a gun, it will be treated as such. And you can get around this by painting half the gun fluro pink or having bad workmanship.
Yer; I may see about a Planetside2 thing.. or assassins creed thing :P.. but all I see right now.. is losing a few off the front
Sorry about the above, was wondering why it wasnt posting :P; but that should end the fake/imitation/real gun thing.. yay...
Its also, from the www.police.vic.gov.au website. (I did a delivery to a coppa, and asked, and they sent me to the direct PDF file)
Im going to be cosplaying with my parter all 3 days ^^
Friday - Tardis & 11th Doctor
Saturday - Bayonetta and Luka
Sunday - Depends how sore i am :P lol
I know Doctor Who isn't really game related, but i wanted a comfortable and easy cosplay to wear, and im trying to ease my partner into cosplay lol
Bayonetta on the other hand, i did that for supanova 2011, im fixing it up to bring to PAX ^^ really wanted to make bayonetta 2's costume but no info is out yet
Just posted this on the main PAX Aus info thread, but all the Wander team will be going dressed up. We'll be running a cosplay competition as well. So Fitzchivalry, come as an Ent and enter the competition.
Yay fellow cosplayers, I am looking to go as a Spectre from SC2
Was just trying to remember who Spectre was from Star Control 2 and then google helped me work out you were talking about starcraft 2... no Yehat's then...
Just posted this on the main PAX Aus info thread, but all the Wander team will be going dressed up. We'll be running a cosplay competition as well. So Fitzchivalry, come as an Ent and enter the competition.
Just call me Fitz, the full version is far too formal
Got all my materials, printed out the pep files *now theres a hint* now I have to get to work on it..and as much as I look like a tree IRL, and Ent is too much work :P
Noticing Trelecoco has a costume for each day...do people really switch costumes around across the days? This single costume is going to cost me in the region of $500, doubt I can afford that for 3 new designs, for each of the days. Does wearing the same costume 3 days in a row get seen as lame?
Speaking only from a pax perspective, I do not think it would get seen as lame at all. Some people just want to work in more ideas than others and have whatever resources are necessary to do so. It's also possible that some folks do significantly less expensive costumes as well.
Yay fellow cosplayers, I am looking to go as a Spectre from SC2
quote]Was just trying to remember who Spectre was from Star Control 2 and then google helped me work out you were talking about starcraft 2... no Yehat's then...
Lol, yeah from Star Craft 2. Unfortunately I missed the 3 day pass so was wondering what day (days) are people cosplaying because would love to get a photo with you all.
I recently finished playing the Mass Effect trilogy, and I am so completely enamoured by the glorious Commander Shepard (the female one of course), that I decided that I wanted to make some FemShep armour for when I go to PAX (Sam and I are going there for our honeymoon. I can wait)!
So today I spent a good few hours researching online how to make the armour, and see how other people made theirs. While it was going to take a lot of time and effort, it is something I really wanted to do. For those who have never played Mass Effect 3, this is the armour I want to make, only in green.
I was just getting to the bit where I had it planned out, and knew what I needed, when I came to a realisation.
I am in a wheelchair.
There is no way I am going to be able to sit, or move myself about in that kind of outfit, even if it were made of foam.
So it got me thinking, maybe I should incorporate my chair into my costume? So do this, I asked myself, how many fantasy/science fiction characters in wheelchairs are there?
1. Prof. Xavier
2. Batgirl/Oracle
And that is about it.
Apparently Doctor Bashir in Star Trek DS9 was supposed to be in a wheelchair, but the producers shot it down (they later revisited disability by using people where were genetically modified as one big metaphor for Autism). That would have been really cool if they had made Bashir disabled, because they could have worn my Star Trek uniform (yes, I own a Trek uniform. Original Series dress though. Eventually I will get the early DS9 outfit. Just because).
So incorporating my chair into a costume isn’t going to happen.
Maybe just buy the Portal jumpsuit from ThinkGeek.com?
But that seems like a cop-out. I want to make something. Sam is planning on making the Thieves Guild armour from The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim (it is going to take a lot of leather and brown linen).
I suppose I could do something similar, but while I love Skyrim, I am not so completely in love with the game that I would go to all the effort to make a costume. Nor am I that crazy about any of FemShep’s casual outfits (that dress? Awful).
Any ideas?
Queer as a pair of pink elephants.
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DanacyrusGaming Coffee Making MusicianBrisbaneRegistered Userregular
edited February 2013
First of all congratulations to you and Sam!
Just remember while you're doing this Cosplay, that Cosplay isn't about who has the best, or most perfect Cosplay (unless you're in the competition I guess). It's about taking a character or outfit that you love and turning it into your reality. Whatever you chose, and however you choose to do it, make sure it's something you love.
In regards to wanting to do Commander Sheppard, I'll send you a PM with some ideas ideas
EDIT: Also, NOTHING is a cop out in Cosplay as long as you're enjoying yourself and what you're wearing! And if anyone tells you otherwise, feel free to send me their way. I've been heavily involved in the Cosplay community for years, and I can tell you as an organiser, I'd get as much enjoyment out of seeing someone in a half arsed made or purchased costume that's having a blast, than some elitist snob who are up themselves wearing the best cosplay known to man. Cosplay is about how it makes you feel, not other people's perceptions.
Unless you're buying a costume, lying, and saying you made it.
I'm fantastically biased, but we ( Wander ) are launching at PAX and organising a cosplay competition, so come as a character from Wander! We haven't announced all of them yet... but the whole Wander team is basically going as Ents apart from one who is keen to go as the dragon and another as the butterfly. The elf costume is probably a bit of work with a sewing machine to get the purple flowers looking right but it's a lot more straight forward than armour. The alpha and beta will be out a while before PAX if you want to make sure it's a good game first.
Alternatively, if your husband is going as a character from skyrim... going as Lydia would be pretty good
@PinkElephant : Wheelchair bound fictional characters? Can't think of many females that also have cool costumes... Davros and Jake Sully from Avatar and Darth Vader spring to mind if you don't mind cross dressing (although Darth Vader fits into the rather large "I can walk because of cybernetics/exoskeleton" field).
Maybe there are characters who may not be in a wheelchair but are renowned for sitting? Royaly springs to mind... you could do a pretty wicked red queen on a throne :-)
Or come as whatever you like + wheelchair... always good to see what people come up with at these things :-D
I'll be cosplaying for the first time. Bit scary as I'll be alone, brightly coloured, and on public transport. But I'm excited as I haven't been to anything like this before.
Pink Elephant, if you don't mind building a shell for your wheelchair, you could always go as a gender-swapped Captain Pike. In one of the original series episodes (the menagerie, IIRC) he appears in a chair, only able to communicate through a flashing light. All you would need to do would be to fashion a cover for your wheelchair and include a cheap led. The original version doesn't have wheels exposed, though, so you may want to find someone (probably Sam) willing to push you for the day. He can be played with or without makeup (facial burns), and he is healed on screen prior to getting out of his chair.
Otherwise, another option could be a gender-swapped Davros. One of the recurring villains in Doctor Who, Davros looks like an old man sitting in the bottom half of a Dalek. Unfortunately, he comes from the era when Dr Who actually had a budget extending beyond plungers and eggbeaters, so some of the details may be a bit more involved. The shell for your wheelchair would also be a bit more intricate than the Captain Pike costume. There is also a fair bit of makeup/mask involved (he kinda looks like an old ferengi with a blue third eye in the middle of his forehead).
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Another male example (that you'd need to gender-swap) would be Old Snake / Big Boss (I can't remember which was in the chair) from the ending of Metal Gear Solid 4. IIRC He's shown in a brown suit at a funeral in one of the end cinematics. This one is probably less distinct, though. and less fun.
This one may be a bit controversial, so you'd want to think long and hard before doing it about how not to offend people. Fighting games (Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, etc) often have some very visually distinct characters, which can be very good for cosplaying. They are, however, all able bodied. How do you think they would look, realistically, after one of those matches? Dress as Chun Li (or whichever character takes your fancy), put your leg in plaster, an arm in a sling, maybe cover some exposed skin with bandaids/steristrips. This option can be as creative as you like. There is some concern about the implications, though, particularly with reference to making light of violence against women. It's definitely an option, but you'd need to think it through.
Captain Pike is a possibility, but I would just do the makeup and uniform, as I am not going to be altering my chair in a why that prevents me from moving (knowing Sam, she would park me somewhere, see something that catches her eye, and wander off and forget about me!).
shame you can't go as the gunzerker in borderlands 2
I'm going as the Gunzerker, with a Borderlands 2 group... though I'm not sure which day.
Also thinking of making an Admiral Anderson (combat outfit) from Mass Effect 3, though it's gonna take some serious effort!
Not sure if I'll be able to pull off a 3rd costume though.
@PinkElephant: You could still do Shepard, just turn your wheelchair into the Mako (or the Normandy). I've seen Mario cosplayers turn wheelchairs into Mario Karts, so this is kind of along the same principle.
Ofcourse, provided it doesn't clash with my B2 day, we could form the basis of a really awesome Mass Effect group
Not really. Sam (who is a girl btw. Just because it isn't legal, doesn't mean we don't want to be married in the sight of God) is Autistic. sci-fi is one of her obsessions, so when she is in that kind of environment, everything else fades out, and she forgets there is anything else in the world but the model spaceship she is looking at. It is part of her, and I love her because of it.
For us, our disabilities very much affect our identities and our relationship. I need help getting up a big hill, she needs help cooking and cleaning, and generally interacting with society. We lean on each other, and we work out okay.
Also thinking of making an Admiral Anderson (combat outfit) from Mass Effect 3, though it's gonna take some serious effort!
Not sure if I'll be able to pull off a 3rd costume though.
@PinkElephant: You could still do Shepard, just turn your wheelchair into the Mako (or the Normandy). I've seen Mario cosplayers turn wheelchairs into Mario Karts, so this is kind of along the same principle.
Ofcourse, provided it doesn't clash with my B2 day, we could form the basis of a really awesome Mass Effect group
I actually was thinking of a Mako shell for my chair, but to do it justice, I would need to make it out of a few large, solid pieces. And considering I am flying in from Perth, it would be a bit difficult to transport. I get a larger luggage allowance because of my chair, but not that much bigger! I am considering making the formal Alliance uniform! Lots of navy cloth and blue piping! I was also considering making the colonists' cover-alls that FemShep wears. Thoughts?
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Look at it this way...
The orange caps were once the 'mid point' the grey zone. Now its black and white, it either resembles a gun, or it doesn't. Unless you're wanting to pain the whole gun fluro orange, the addition of colour to a square inch of the gun is irrelevant. It needs to be large portions of the gun to make a difference.
{IANAL, It goes without saying, but nothing in this post is to be taken as legal advice. If you're unsure about anything, either see a real lawyer (practicing in Victoria), or leave the prop at home. Everything in this post is based on http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=32717 and in particular the first link in the text of that page.}
To restate what I said earlier in this thread, a prop is acceptable iff (if and only if) it "cannot be mistaken [for a] working [firearm] by the general
public, and [does] not have the functionality of working firearms." The orange cap helps with this slightly, but its not determinative by any means; there's nothing stopping would-be criminals from spraypainting the tip of their glock. For a prop to be considered a toy (as opposed to an imitation firearm), it will need to have at least one of the following characteristics:
• Their shape and size is of a kind not associated with a working firearm; and/or
• The barrel and/or butt is of a colour not normally associated with a working firearm, particularly if it is bright, fluorescent, or multicoloured; and/or
• The composition suggests it is clearly manufactured using material of a kind not associated with a working firearm—such as transparent or coloured plastic.
Applying this to your case, although the shape is based on a scifi design, I'm not sure that it is sufficiently distinguished from a real gun as to be "not normally associated" and I would say the same for the colour, although that is probably more easily arguable. The fact that it is made from plastic and MDF is only relevant if it is immediately visually apparent, and the paint may well obscure this fact (its hard to tell from those photos. While you only need one of the three, none of them are clear-cut. My gut reaction is that it seems like it shouldn't be mistaken for a real gun, but I am hardly an expert in either firearms or Victorian firearms laws. I can only say that you should look into this more carefully before bringing the prop - better safe than sorry when it comes to law enforcement.
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or an i missing something that is regular knowledge for cosplayers.
Also, as far as legal issues go, just having it in a bag is not sufficient. If the police have reason to search the bag and find an imitation firearm, you're in just as much trouble as if you had been carrying it openly. It's less likely that they would search the bag than just see you, obviously, but it's not a defence if you do get caught. I wouldn't recommend risking it. If you're unsure enough to think that you need to hide it, you should probably reconsider bringing it in the first place.
As always, IANAL, and you should do your own research and come to your own conclusions.
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and the way in which they are regulated in the state of Victoria. This guide will assist
you to distinguish whether an item is classified as an imitation firearm, a toy, or
firearm themed paraphernalia.
It is important to make these distinctions as the unlawful manufacture, importation,
purchase, ownership, carriage and/or use of imitation firearms can lead to penalties
for non compliance.
IMITATION FIREARMS
In the state of Victoria, items that have the appearance of working
firearms, but not the functionality, are classified as imitation firearms.
Imitation firearms are increasingly made to look remarkably similar to real
firearms, and can be made of any substance (metal, plastic, rubber, etc.)
to resemble either a longarm (rifle, shotgun, or machinegun) or handgun
(revolver or pistol).
Whilst these items cannot cause death or injury by shooting projectiles,
they can nonetheless cause public alarm due to their similarity in
appearance to working firearms. Even items that remotely resemble
firearms could be easily mistaken as working firearms in certain
circumstances and depending on factors such as lighting conditions,
distance from the object, the viewer’s knowledge of firearms and/or
circumstances in which they are carried.
A Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval or Governor in
Council Exemption is required to possess, carry, use, offer for sale or
import an imitation firearm.
TOY FIREARMS
As a general rule, toy firearms are considered items that resemble
firearms, but cannot be mistaken as working firearms by the general
public, and do not have the functionality of working firearms. As such, toy
firearms can be lawfully possessed by anyone within the State of Victoria.
The defining characteristics of toy firearms are:
1. They are solely manufactured and used for the purpose of a
plaything or for providing amusement; and
2. Their method of operation (if applicable) falls outside the definition
of a firearm in the Firearms Act 1996; and
3. They have a resemblance to a firearm, however their appearance
cannot be mistaken for a working firearm by a reasonable person
due to the presence of at least one of the following characteristics:
• Their shape and size is of a kind not associated with a working
firearm; and/or
• The barrel and/or butt is of a colour not normally associated with a
working firearm, particularly if it is bright, fluorescent, or multi
coloured; and/or
• The composition suggests it is clearly manufactured using material
of a kind not associated with a working firearm—such as
transparent or coloured plastic.
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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Are imitation firearms and replica firearms the same thing?
No. The term ‘replica firearm’ is often incorrectly used to describe
imitation firearms. A replica firearm is a copy of a working firearm, and has
the same functionality. This means that not only does a replica look
identical to the working firearm it is copying, but it also functions in the
same way by firing bullets, shots or other similar projectiles.
Owners of replica firearms must possess a firearms licence, and the replica
must be registered under the Firearms Act 1996. For this reason, it is
important that the terms ‘replica firearm’ and ‘imitation firearm’ not be
confused.
Do I require a licence to own an imitation firearm?
As of 1 July 2011, imitation firearms will be classified as ‘prohibited
weapons’. Owners of prohibited weapons do not require a firearms
licence, but do require a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons
Approval unless they are subject to a Governor in Council Exemption.
Do I require a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval if I
already have a firearms licence for my imitation handguns?
Current Victorian firearm licence holders with imitation firearms attached
(issued under Part 2 of the Firearms Act 1996 prior to 1 July 2011) can
continue to hold onto – but not obtain further imitation firearms, until
such time as the licence expires – at which time a Chief Commissioner’s
Prohibited Weapons Approval or Governor in Council Exemption will be
required.
Can I make a toy look more realistic?
Yes, however if the modifications make the toy resemble a working
firearm, it could be considered to be an imitation firearm. In this case you
will need either a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval or a
Governor in Council Exemption.
What does a Chief Commissioners Weapons Approval or a Governor in
Council Exemption allow me to do?
One of these authorities will allow you to manufacture, possess, carry, use,
sell or import an imitation firearm in the state of Victoria from 1 July 2011
How do I apply for a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons
Approval?
To apply for a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval, you
must complete and submit an application form, available on the Victoria
Police, Licensing & Regulation Division website located at
www.police.vic.gov.au/weapons, and then select ‘Chief Commissioner’s
Approval’ from the left hand navigation bar.
How do I apply for a Governor in Council Exemption?
Exemptions are managed by the Department of Justice and published in
the Government Gazette. Governor in Council Exemptions are issued for
groups (e.g. collectors clubs and historical/performing arts re‐enactment
groups), but not to individuals. To apply for a Governor in Council
Exemption email jpenquiries@justice.vic.gov.au or for further information
visit the Department of Justice website at www.justice.vic.gov.au.
How can I dispose of my imitation firearms?
You may sell imitation firearms to a licensed firearms dealer, or any person
who holds a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval or a
Governor in Council Exemption for that particular weapon type; or you
may surrender the imitation firearms to a police station for destruction.
Is my imitation longarm still covered by the amnesty?
No. The imitation longarm amnesty will cease from 30 June 2011, at
which time possession of imitation longarms will require a Chief
Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval, or a Governor in Council
Exemption. However, until 31 December 2011, Police will exercise
discretion provided you are taking the necessary steps to legalise your
position ‐ such as obtaining an Approval or Exemption, or disposing the
imitation longarm to a Licensed Firearms Dealer.
Do I need to register my imitation firearm?
No. There are no registration requirements for prohibited weapons,
including imitation firearms.
Is there a limit to how many imitation firearms I can possess under a
Chief Commissioner’s Weapons Approval or a Governor in Council
Exemption?
No. As there is no requirement to register imitation firearms, there is no
limit as to the amount that can be possessed once a Chief Commissioner’s
Prohibited Weapons Approval or Governor in Council Exemption is
obtained, unless otherwise specified by condition.
How must I store my imitation firearms?
From 1 July 2011 imitation handguns and longarms must be stored safely
and securely in a manner to ensure that:
• The devices are not readily accessible to others;
• The devices are not available for possession, carriage or use by
others unless they are also holders of a Chief Commissioner of
Police Approval (Prohibited Weapons) issued for the same reason
or are otherwise exempt (if applicable); and
• When being transported between the usual place of storage and
places at which the devices are legitimately used (reason of
which is stated in this authority), they are stored in a manner that
is not readily accessible to others and concealed from plain sight.
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I hope this helps those who wish to take imitation guns to PAX in Victoria.
From 1 July 2011, there have been changes to what constitutes imitation firearms,
and the way in which they are regulated in the state of Victoria. This guide will assist
you to distinguish whether an item is classified as an imitation firearm, a toy, or
firearm themed paraphernalia.
It is important to make these distinctions as the unlawful manufacture, importation,
purchase, ownership, carriage and/or use of imitation firearms can lead to penalties
for non compliance.
DISTINGUISHING IMITATION FIREARMS FROM TOYS
All four products illustrated below were manufactured as ‘toys’, but only
product images 3 and 4 would be accepted as toy firearms in the State of
Victoria. (Sorry no images as this is from the police website)
It is important to note that from 1 July 2011, an item fitted with a coloured
barrel plug, as illustrated in Image 2 will no longer be treated as a toy
unless it also has obvious characteristics not associated with working
firearms, such as their shape, size and/or colour
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Are imitation firearms and replica firearms the same thing?
No. The term ‘replica firearm’ is often incorrectly used to describe
imitation firearms. A replica firearm is a copy of a working firearm, and has
the same functionality. This means that not only does a replica look
identical to the working firearm it is copying, but it also functions in the
same way by firing bullets, shots or other similar projectiles.
Owners of replica firearms must possess a firearms licence, and the replica
must be registered under the Firearms Act 1996. For this reason, it is
important that the terms ‘replica firearm’ and ‘imitation firearm’ not be
confused.
Do I require a licence to own an imitation firearm?
As of 1 July 2011, imitation firearms will be classified as ‘prohibited
weapons’. Owners of prohibited weapons do not require a firearms
licence, but do require a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons
Approval unless they are subject to a Governor in Council Exemption.
Do I require a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval if I
already have a firearms licence for my imitation handguns?
Current Victorian firearm licence holders with imitation firearms attached
(issued under Part 2 of the Firearms Act 1996 prior to 1 July 2011) can
continue to hold onto – but not obtain further imitation firearms, until
such time as the licence expires – at which time a Chief Commissioner’s
Prohibited Weapons Approval or Governor in Council Exemption will be
required.
Can I make a toy look more realistic?
Yes, however if the modifications make the toy resemble a working
firearm, it could be considered to be an imitation firearm. In this case you
will need either a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval or a
Governor in Council Exemption.
What does a Chief Commissioners Weapons Approval or a Governor in
Council Exemption allow me to do?
One of these authorities will allow you to manufacture, possess, carry, use,
sell or import an imitation firearm in the state of Victoria from 1 July 2011
(depending on your genuine reason for obtaining the authority).
How do I apply for a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons
Approval?
To apply for a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval, you
must complete and submit an application form, available on the Victoria
Police, Licensing & Regulation Division website located at
www.police.vic.gov.au/weapons, and then select ‘Chief Commissioner’s
Approval’ from the left hand navigation bar.
How can I dispose of my imitation firearms?
You may sell imitation firearms to a licensed firearms dealer, or any person
who holds a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval or a
Governor in Council Exemption for that particular weapon type; or you
may surrender the imitation firearms to a police station for destruction.
Is my imitation longarm still covered by the amnesty?
No. The imitation longarm amnesty will cease from 30 June 2011, at
which time possession of imitation longarms will require a Chief
Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval, or a Governor in Council
Exemption. However, until 31 December 2011, Police will exercise
discretion provided you are taking the necessary steps to legalise your
position ‐ such as obtaining an Approval or Exemption, or disposing the
imitation longarm to a Licensed Firearms Dealer.
Do I need to register my imitation firearm?
No. There are no registration requirements for prohibited weapons,
including imitation firearms.
Is there a limit to how many imitation firearms I can possess under a
Chief Commissioner’s Weapons Approval or a Governor in Council
Exemption?
No. As there is no requirement to register imitation firearms, there is no
limit as to the amount that can be possessed once a Chief Commissioner’s
Prohibited Weapons Approval or Governor in Council Exemption is
obtained, unless otherwise specified by condition.
How must I store my imitation firearms?
From 1 July 2011 imitation handguns and longarms must be stored safely
and securely in a manner to ensure that:
• The devices are not readily accessible to others;
• The devices are not available for possession, carriage or use by
others unless they are also holders of a Chief Commissioner of
Police Approval (Prohibited Weapons) issued for the same reason
or are otherwise exempt (if applicable); and
• When being transported between the usual place of storage and
places at which the devices are legitimately used (reason of
which is stated in this authority), they are stored in a manner that
is not readily accessible to others and concealed from plain sight.
Linking to the appropriate resources that handle said laws is the appropriate way to handle this. Stop debating law in this thread.
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Sorry about the above, was wondering why it wasnt posting :P; but that should end the fake/imitation/real gun thing.. yay...
Its also, from the www.police.vic.gov.au website. (I did a delivery to a coppa, and asked, and they sent me to the direct PDF file)
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(And no, its not Ironman / Warmachine / Halo like everyone else who does pepakura
A planetside2 gun?
Need to find a decent artist to draw me some designs to work from tho..freelancer.com here i come
Im going to be cosplaying with my parter all 3 days ^^
Friday - Tardis & 11th Doctor
Saturday - Bayonetta and Luka
Sunday - Depends how sore i am :P lol
I know Doctor Who isn't really game related, but i wanted a comfortable and easy cosplay to wear, and im trying to ease my partner into cosplay lol
Bayonetta on the other hand, i did that for supanova 2011, im fixing it up to bring to PAX ^^ really wanted to make bayonetta 2's costume but no info is out yet
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How many other people are dressing up??
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Was just trying to remember who Spectre was from Star Control 2 and then google helped me work out you were talking about starcraft 2...
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Just call me Fitz, the full version is far too formal
Got all my materials, printed out the pep files *now theres a hint* now I have to get to work on it..and as much as I look like a tree IRL, and Ent is too much work :P
Noticing Trelecoco has a costume for each day...do people really switch costumes around across the days? This single costume is going to cost me in the region of $500, doubt I can afford that for 3 new designs, for each of the days. Does wearing the same costume 3 days in a row get seen as lame?
Lol, yeah from Star Craft 2. Unfortunately I missed the 3 day pass so was wondering what day (days) are people cosplaying because would love to get a photo with you all.
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So today I spent a good few hours researching online how to make the armour, and see how other people made theirs. While it was going to take a lot of time and effort, it is something I really wanted to do. For those who have never played Mass Effect 3, this is the armour I want to make, only in green.
I was just getting to the bit where I had it planned out, and knew what I needed, when I came to a realisation.
I am in a wheelchair.
There is no way I am going to be able to sit, or move myself about in that kind of outfit, even if it were made of foam.
So it got me thinking, maybe I should incorporate my chair into my costume? So do this, I asked myself, how many fantasy/science fiction characters in wheelchairs are there?
1. Prof. Xavier
2. Batgirl/Oracle
And that is about it.
Apparently Doctor Bashir in Star Trek DS9 was supposed to be in a wheelchair, but the producers shot it down (they later revisited disability by using people where were genetically modified as one big metaphor for Autism). That would have been really cool if they had made Bashir disabled, because they could have worn my Star Trek uniform (yes, I own a Trek uniform. Original Series dress though. Eventually I will get the early DS9 outfit. Just because).
So incorporating my chair into a costume isn’t going to happen.
Maybe just buy the Portal jumpsuit from ThinkGeek.com?
But that seems like a cop-out. I want to make something. Sam is planning on making the Thieves Guild armour from The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim (it is going to take a lot of leather and brown linen).
I suppose I could do something similar, but while I love Skyrim, I am not so completely in love with the game that I would go to all the effort to make a costume. Nor am I that crazy about any of FemShep’s casual outfits (that dress? Awful).
Any ideas?
Just remember while you're doing this Cosplay, that Cosplay isn't about who has the best, or most perfect Cosplay (unless you're in the competition I guess). It's about taking a character or outfit that you love and turning it into your reality. Whatever you chose, and however you choose to do it, make sure it's something you love.
In regards to wanting to do Commander Sheppard, I'll send you a PM with some ideas ideas
EDIT: Also, NOTHING is a cop out in Cosplay as long as you're enjoying yourself and what you're wearing! And if anyone tells you otherwise, feel free to send me their way. I've been heavily involved in the Cosplay community for years, and I can tell you as an organiser, I'd get as much enjoyment out of seeing someone in a half arsed made or purchased costume that's having a blast, than some elitist snob who are up themselves wearing the best cosplay known to man. Cosplay is about how it makes you feel, not other people's perceptions.
Unless you're buying a costume, lying, and saying you made it.
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Alternatively, if your husband is going as a character from skyrim... going as Lydia would be pretty good
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Maybe there are characters who may not be in a wheelchair but are renowned for sitting? Royaly springs to mind... you could do a pretty wicked red queen on a throne :-)
Or come as whatever you like + wheelchair... always good to see what people come up with at these things :-D
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For reference:
Wikipedia
Google Images
Otherwise, another option could be a gender-swapped Davros. One of the recurring villains in Doctor Who, Davros looks like an old man sitting in the bottom half of a Dalek. Unfortunately, he comes from the era when Dr Who actually had a budget extending beyond plungers and eggbeaters, so some of the details may be a bit more involved. The shell for your wheelchair would also be a bit more intricate than the Captain Pike costume. There is also a fair bit of makeup/mask involved (he kinda looks like an old ferengi with a blue third eye in the middle of his forehead).
Links:
Wikipedia
Google Images
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Another male example (that you'd need to gender-swap) would be Old Snake / Big Boss (I can't remember which was in the chair) from the ending of Metal Gear Solid 4. IIRC He's shown in a brown suit at a funeral in one of the end cinematics. This one is probably less distinct, though. and less fun.
This one may be a bit controversial, so you'd want to think long and hard before doing it about how not to offend people. Fighting games (Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, etc) often have some very visually distinct characters, which can be very good for cosplaying. They are, however, all able bodied. How do you think they would look, realistically, after one of those matches? Dress as Chun Li (or whichever character takes your fancy), put your leg in plaster, an arm in a sling, maybe cover some exposed skin with bandaids/steristrips. This option can be as creative as you like. There is some concern about the implications, though, particularly with reference to making light of violence against women. It's definitely an option, but you'd need to think it through.
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Have do do a bit more thinking.
Also thinking of making an Admiral Anderson (combat outfit) from Mass Effect 3, though it's gonna take some serious effort!
Not sure if I'll be able to pull off a 3rd costume though.
@PinkElephant: You could still do Shepard, just turn your wheelchair into the Mako (or the Normandy). I've seen Mario cosplayers turn wheelchairs into Mario Karts, so this is kind of along the same principle.
Ofcourse, provided it doesn't clash with my B2 day, we could form the basis of a really awesome Mass Effect group
@Ameria: who will you be cosplaying as?
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Not really. Sam (who is a girl btw. Just because it isn't legal, doesn't mean we don't want to be married in the sight of God) is Autistic. sci-fi is one of her obsessions, so when she is in that kind of environment, everything else fades out, and she forgets there is anything else in the world but the model spaceship she is looking at. It is part of her, and I love her because of it.
For us, our disabilities very much affect our identities and our relationship. I need help getting up a big hill, she needs help cooking and cleaning, and generally interacting with society. We lean on each other, and we work out okay.
I actually was thinking of a Mako shell for my chair, but to do it justice, I would need to make it out of a few large, solid pieces. And considering I am flying in from Perth, it would be a bit difficult to transport. I get a larger luggage allowance because of my chair, but not that much bigger! I am considering making the formal Alliance uniform! Lots of navy cloth and blue piping! I was also considering making the colonists' cover-alls that FemShep wears. Thoughts?