Again, I think an actual story is better than a possible future story that could never even happen.
I get the sentiment of not wanting these characters to possibly die, but saying "X can't die because maybe a writer will have an awesome story with them 6 years from now!" is kind of a shitty excuse and roadblocks writers.
I'd rather it not go that far, but if you're going to do it, do it hard. Let it be the culmination of something grand. These are stories of heroism. These should be heroic, powerful deaths. The writer should ask themselves, "am I willing to cut off all these future stories?" That should weigh on them.
Xavier's death in AvX is not an example of doing it hard.
Death is currently too cheap. Too easy. I want to shock people, so X is going to die.
You trust Hopeless to do otherwise, but the first issue gave me the opposite impression. X-Men Season One was good, but not anything that convinced me he deserved more trust.
But there's value in doing the OPPOSITE, too. At their core, most superheroes are human, or something akin to that. Giving them messy, tragic, ultimate pointless deaths, while unfortunate, can have a hell of an impact on a story. If AA can balance that with how Issue 1 went down? It could be the freshest thing to happen to the way we approach death in comics in a long time.
Again, I think an actual story is better than a possible future story that could never even happen.
I get the sentiment of not wanting these characters to possibly die, but saying "X can't die because maybe a writer will have an awesome story with them 6 years from now!" is kind of a shitty excuse and roadblocks writers.
I'd rather it not go that far, but if you're going to do it, do it hard. Let it be the culmination of something grand. These are stories of heroism. These should be heroic, powerful deaths. The writer should ask themselves, "am I willing to cut off all these future stories?" That should weigh on them.
Xavier's death in AvX is not an example of doing it hard.
Death is currently too cheap. Too easy. I want to shock people, so X is going to die.
You trust Hopeless to do otherwise, but the first issue gave me the opposite impression. X-Men Season One was good, but not anything that convinced me he deserved more trust.
But there's value in doing the OPPOSITE, too. At their core, most superheroes are human, or something akin to that. Giving them messy, tragic, ultimate pointless deaths, while unfortunate, can have a hell of an impact on a story. If AA can balance that with how Issue 1 went down? It could be the freshest thing to happen to the way we approach death in comics in a long time.
Here's the thing about AA. Do you honestly think it's going to end with one single survivor / bad guy wins?
Because man, I home not.
While I still have misgivings about AA I understand that death can be used as a powerful story telling tool, however I also hope that despite the fact that many characters I care about are in the sights so to speak I truly hope that death is death in this series. Too many times death is a stop off for many powerful characters to rest and move aside for a time, case in point Charles Xavier dying had no impact whatsoever with me. As much as I love the X-men he has died too many tiems and come back too many times. if the impact of AA is to last then the characters lost have to be well and truly gone.
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Again, I think an actual story is better than a possible future story that could never even happen.
I get the sentiment of not wanting these characters to possibly die, but saying "X can't die because maybe a writer will have an awesome story with them 6 years from now!" is kind of a shitty excuse and roadblocks writers.
I'd rather it not go that far, but if you're going to do it, do it hard. Let it be the culmination of something grand. These are stories of heroism. These should be heroic, powerful deaths. The writer should ask themselves, "am I willing to cut off all these future stories?" That should weigh on them.
Xavier's death in AvX is not an example of doing it hard.
Death is currently too cheap. Too easy. I want to shock people, so X is going to die.
You trust Hopeless to do otherwise, but the first issue gave me the opposite impression. X-Men Season One was good, but not anything that convinced me he deserved more trust.
But there's value in doing the OPPOSITE, too. At their core, most superheroes are human, or something akin to that. Giving them messy, tragic, ultimate pointless deaths, while unfortunate, can have a hell of an impact on a story. If AA can balance that with how Issue 1 went down? It could be the freshest thing to happen to the way we approach death in comics in a long time.
Here's the thing about AA. Do you honestly think it's going to end with one single survivor / bad guy wins?
Because man, I home not.
While I still have misgivings about AA I understand that death can be used as a powerful story telling tool, however I also hope that despite the fact that many characters I care about are in the sights so to speak I truly hope that death is death in this series. Too many times death is a stop off for many powerful characters to rest and move aside for a time, case in point Charles Xavier dying had no impact whatsoever with me. As much as I love the X-men he has died too many tiems and come back too many times. if the impact of AA is to last then the characters lost have to be well and truly gone.
I think Avengers Academy's death was just voided out because of what other comics I got that week, and a good example of why it's hard to take death seriously in comics a lot of the times.
I read AA, was saddened by Mettle, it hit right, was a bit mad cause i liked Mettle, but I'm always willing to see a story thru. But then I read Marvel Universe vs Avengers right after it, and there's Mettle in the Future being all alive. So it becomes a , well which one is gonna end up correct/knowing he'll probably be back anyway realization.
I think Avengers Academy's death was just voided out because of what other comics I got that week, and a good example of why it's hard to take death seriously in comics a lot of the times.
I read AA, was saddened by Mettle, it hit right, was a bit mad cause i liked Mettle, but I'm always willing to see a story thru. But then I read Marvel Universe vs Avengers right after it, and there's Mettle in the Future being all alive. So it becomes a , well which one is gonna end up correct/knowing he'll probably be back anyway realization.
i don't know anything about the dude in x-men legacy
but man i am completely onboard for that book
He caused the first Age of Apocalypse storyline. I have no idea what Legion has been up to since.
Since then he's resurfaced with many more personalities and has been working on and off with Xavier and the other Legacy mutants to try to control them. He had a big part in the recent Age of X event.
And I too am enjoying the new Legacy so far. I'm excited to see where it goes but this title, along with Avengers Arena, I'm still skeptical of them being able to get a full ongoing out of it.
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it's a combination of them front loading the NOW titles because of lots of lead time/getting a lot of issues out quickly to establish the new books and the fact that they are essentially shipping 2 weeks worth of books this week because of the holidays
I'm gonna dread this week aren't I? I'll actually quote my stuff in the new release thread when it hits again, so we can all laugh at my wallet together!
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But there's value in doing the OPPOSITE, too. At their core, most superheroes are human, or something akin to that. Giving them messy, tragic, ultimate pointless deaths, while unfortunate, can have a hell of an impact on a story. If AA can balance that with how Issue 1 went down? It could be the freshest thing to happen to the way we approach death in comics in a long time.
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Because man, I hope not.
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While I still have misgivings about AA I understand that death can be used as a powerful story telling tool, however I also hope that despite the fact that many characters I care about are in the sights so to speak I truly hope that death is death in this series. Too many times death is a stop off for many powerful characters to rest and move aside for a time, case in point Charles Xavier dying had no impact whatsoever with me. As much as I love the X-men he has died too many tiems and come back too many times. if the impact of AA is to last then the characters lost have to be well and truly gone.
While I still have misgivings about AA I understand that death can be used as a powerful story telling tool, however I also hope that despite the fact that many characters I care about are in the sights so to speak I truly hope that death is death in this series. Too many times death is a stop off for many powerful characters to rest and move aside for a time, case in point Charles Xavier dying had no impact whatsoever with me. As much as I love the X-men he has died too many tiems and come back too many times. if the impact of AA is to last then the characters lost have to be well and truly gone.
cannot wait for his Young Avengers
Yeah but the more he talks the more I feel convinced that Land wasn't a bad thing for the book. Convincing meof that is amazing.
Aren't the vs titles non canon?
It was still weird to go from one to the other tho.
i gotta say, i really like where this is going
a lot more interesting than i ever expected.
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but man i am completely onboard for that book
He caused the first Age of Apocalypse storyline. I have no idea what Legion has been up to since.
Since then he's resurfaced with many more personalities and has been working on and off with Xavier and the other Legacy mutants to try to control them. He had a big part in the recent Age of X event.
And I too am enjoying the new Legacy so far. I'm excited to see where it goes but this title, along with Avengers Arena, I'm still skeptical of them being able to get a full ongoing out of it.
Im gonna trade wait for legacy. I like it but I have so many damn titles already.
I see at least 12 titles I'm gonna be picking up on Wednesday.
This is just to get stuff out before the holidays, right? I mean, they'll eventually go back to being monthly on some of this stuff?
hooray for irresponsible expenditures within a week of christmas!
Which is the worst because there are so many books out.
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And we know Heroes for Hire is gonna be one.
That cover is so perfect.
If I knew nothing about the comic I would pick it up just for it.