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Gas attack in Syria

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  • Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    Dongs Galore wrote: »
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Where was russia all the times we fucked with a country because money?

    Screaming protests and tacitly or not-so-tacitly threatening nuclear war, mostly

    same thing we've always done to them

    Well, we didn't do that much kicking and screaming during the whole South Ossetia thing

    BUT THAT'S JUST BECAUSE PUTIN'S SUCH A COOL BADASS AMIRITE?

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Ugh I hate the internets obsession with Putin. Yes he has done some things that might constitute as badass, but hes also an awful oppressor.

    I feel like latter outweighs the former.

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  • Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Dongs Galore wrote: »
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Where was russia all the times we fucked with a country because money?

    Screaming protests and tacitly or not-so-tacitly threatening nuclear war, mostly

    same thing we've always done to them

    Well, we didn't do that much kicking and screaming during the whole South Ossetia thing

    BUT THAT'S JUST BECAUSE PUTIN'S SUCH A COOL BADASS AMIRITE?

    NATO did send a fleet into the Black Sea on "routine exercises" and the Bush Administration condemned it while the E.U. got both parties to submit to mediation, but American response was muted for several reasons:

    1. Bush didn't have a whole lot of political capital for starting new wars

    2. Georgia's still about as far inside Russia's post-Soviet sphere of influence as you can get without actively trying to rejoin the USSR like Belarus

    3. We were already fighting two wars

    If Georgia had fought more strenuously (notably, they could have demolished one key mountain highway tunnel by air to effectively stop the advance of Russian armor), or if mediation had failed, we'd probably have screamed quite a bit harder.

  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    The Olympic War.

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  • Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    I remember when the invasion happened, I became a news-junkie and was freaked out that it would somehow start WW III.

    I later felt foolish.

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    The Georgians basically did exactly whatthey knew would get themselves beat up (oppressing the Ossetians) so it's fair enough to point and laugh at them over that whole conflict.

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  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    I heard it on NPR a couple hours ago but not a lot of big news orgs other than Al Jazeera are mentioning it.

  • LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    I saw this on bbc yesterday and found it rather sad.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Ugh I hate the internets obsession with Putin. Yes he has done some things that might constitute as badass, but hes also an awful oppressor.

    I feel like latter outweighs the former.

    Wait people actually like Putin? Didn't he throw two female singers in prison this year for basically no reason other than they pissed him off?

    I remember the Catholic church being involved but even they thought the sentence was way too harsh.

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  • Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Ugh I hate the internets obsession with Putin. Yes he has done some things that might constitute as badass, but hes also an awful oppressor.

    I feel like latter outweighs the former.

    Wait people actually like Putin? Didn't he throw two female singers in prison this year for basically no reason other than they pissed him off?

    I remember the Catholic church being involved but even they thought the sentence was way too harsh.

    They did an angry protest at a church, and the Orthodox Church clamored for their arrest. Putin went farther and imprisoned them for longer than would usually be legal for such an offense, iirc.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Ugh I hate the internets obsession with Putin. Yes he has done some things that might constitute as badass, but hes also an awful oppressor.

    I feel like latter outweighs the former.

    Wait people actually like Putin? Didn't he throw two female singers in prison this year for basically no reason other than they pissed him off?

    I remember the Catholic church being involved but even they thought the sentence was way too harsh.

    They did an angry protest at a church, and the Orthodox Church clamored for their arrest. Putin went farther and imprisoned them for longer than would usually be legal for such an offense, iirc.

    That's right, I know the church wanted them arrested but not imprisoned for 2 fucking years.

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    You don't exactly retire from the KGB

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    And I flubbed my Russian History final exam

    I am disappointed in myself

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  • Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    Putin gets some popularity at home and abroad because of his propaganda stunts, like harpooning a whale and shooting a tiger and fishing shirtless

    He is also popular among some sections of the Russian electorate just because he is not Yeltsin, and the state pours much of its energy-export revenues into public largesse to sustain that popularity

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    He does have an appeal for the older Russians

    In that he represents a more 'traditional' Soviet-style of power

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  • Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    also a more traditional "We have bread and running water" style of economy

  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Dongs Galore wrote: »
    also a more traditional "We have bread and running water" style of economy

    Hey, things weren't that great

    But at least you knew what to expect

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Dongs Galore wrote: »
    also a more traditional "We have bread and running water" style of economy

    This doesn't extend to heating.

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    ONLY FILTHY CAPITALISTS GET HEAT

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Well yes, they can pay for it.

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Only an enemy of the state would make that sort of connection

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Pharezon wrote: »
    Well yes, they can pay for it.

    God I love being white and upper middle class

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    Dongs Galore wrote: »
    Putin gets some popularity at home and abroad because of his propaganda stunts, like harpooning a whale and shooting a tiger and fishing shirtless

    He is also popular among some sections of the Russian electorate just because he is not Yeltsin, and the state pours much of its energy-export revenues into public largesse to sustain that popularity

    If an American politician shot a tiger or harpooned a whale there would be a fucking uproar.

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  • Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    well what I meant was Yeltsin (capitalist) Russia was the one that didn't have bread or running water

  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    Yeltsin was also a piece of shit.

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    Dead Legend wrote: »
    Dongs Galore wrote: »
    Putin gets some popularity at home and abroad because of his propaganda stunts, like harpooning a whale and shooting a tiger and fishing shirtless

    He is also popular among some sections of the Russian electorate just because he is not Yeltsin, and the state pours much of its energy-export revenues into public largesse to sustain that popularity

    If an American politician shot a tiger or harpooned a whale there would be a fucking uproar.

    Pretty sure the folks that love shirtless Putin stabbing tigers are the same internet ironists who love Chuck Norris and libertarianism.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Aneurhythmia wrote: »
    Dead Legend wrote: »
    Dongs Galore wrote: »
    Putin gets some popularity at home and abroad because of his propaganda stunts, like harpooning a whale and shooting a tiger and fishing shirtless

    He is also popular among some sections of the Russian electorate just because he is not Yeltsin, and the state pours much of its energy-export revenues into public largesse to sustain that popularity

    If an American politician shot a tiger or harpooned a whale there would be a fucking uproar.

    Pretty sure the folks that love shirtless Putin stabbing tigers are the same internet ironists who love Chuck Norris and libertarianism.

    Hey now don't lump the insane libertarians with the moderate ones.

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  • Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    ONLY FILTHY CAPITALISTS GET HEAT

    yes, this is pretty accurate

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  • Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    Dead Legend wrote: »
    Dongs Galore wrote: »
    Putin gets some popularity at home and abroad because of his propaganda stunts, like harpooning a whale and shooting a tiger and fishing shirtless

    He is also popular among some sections of the Russian electorate just because he is not Yeltsin, and the state pours much of its energy-export revenues into public largesse to sustain that popularity

    If an American politician shot a tiger or harpooned a whale there would be a fucking uproar.

    he shot the tiger with a tranquilizer and the whale with a tracking beacon

  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
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  • Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Aneurhythmia wrote: »
    Dead Legend wrote: »
    Dongs Galore wrote: »
    Putin gets some popularity at home and abroad because of his propaganda stunts, like harpooning a whale and shooting a tiger and fishing shirtless

    He is also popular among some sections of the Russian electorate just because he is not Yeltsin, and the state pours much of its energy-export revenues into public largesse to sustain that popularity

    If an American politician shot a tiger or harpooned a whale there would be a fucking uproar.

    Pretty sure the folks that love shirtless Putin stabbing tigers are the same internet ironists who love Chuck Norris and libertarianism.

    no, a ton of people love him

    russians especially

    how much of that is motivated by fear remains to be seen

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    surprising no one

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Pharezon wrote: »
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    Reminds me of some super liberals I know who didn't think Thatcher was that bad.

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Pharezon wrote: »
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    Reminds me of some super liberals I know who didn't think Thatcher was that bad.

    Hahahahahaha.

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Russia is such a weird country

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Pharezon wrote: »
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    Reminds me of some super liberals I know who didn't think Thatcher was that bad.

    not fans of milk then

  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Pharezon wrote: »
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    Reminds me of some super liberals I know who didn't think Thatcher was that bad.

    not fans of milk then

    It has to be organic soy.

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    Russia is such a weird country

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