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Renters (squatters) rights: tenants (landlord) are jerks

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    it is convenient to style hair and do makeup where there is a sink plus mirror

    I guess I'm just used to american decadence :P

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    How else do you blowdry your hair?

    Our oppressive socialist government insists that hairdryers use the same 3-pin plug as every other electrical device. We're forced to be able to use hairdryers in any room in the house except the room where there's a ton of running water.

    Oh how I yearn for freedom.

    So except for the room you are actually in when you need to blowdry your hair.

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    Clown ShoesClown Shoes Give me hay or give me death. Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    shryke wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    How else do you blowdry your hair?

    Our oppressive socialist government insists that hairdryers use the same 3-pin plug as every other electrical device. We're forced to be able to use hairdryers in any room in the house except the room where there's a ton of running water.

    Oh how I yearn for freedom.

    So except for the room you are actually in when you need to blowdry your hair.

    The last time I needed to take a shit, I wasn't in the bathroom. I moved to the bathroom and took a shit. Are you incapable of moving between rooms when your hair is wet?

    You might as well complain that your house/flat doesn't have cooking facilities because the kitchen is in a different room to the TV.

    Clown Shoes on
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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    shryke wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    How else do you blowdry your hair?

    Our oppressive socialist government insists that hairdryers use the same 3-pin plug as every other electrical device. We're forced to be able to use hairdryers in any room in the house except the room where there's a ton of running water.

    Oh how I yearn for freedom.

    So except for the room you are actually in when you need to blowdry your hair.

    The last time I needed to take a shit, I wasn't in the bathroom. I moved to the bathroom and took a shit. Are you incapable of moving between rooms when your hair is wet?

    You might as well complain that your house/flat doesn't have cooking facilities because the kitchen is in a different room to the TV.

    You go through alot of trouble to avoid a problem that doesn't actually exist.

    You get out of the shower/bath, you need to dry your hair. The logical thing to do is do it in the room you are already in, which has all the shit you need for the process already at hand. And a sink to boot, which is very useful for many things too.

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    Clown ShoesClown Shoes Give me hay or give me death. Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    How else do you blowdry your hair?

    Our oppressive socialist government insists that hairdryers use the same 3-pin plug as every other electrical device. We're forced to be able to use hairdryers in any room in the house except the room where there's a ton of running water.

    Oh how I yearn for freedom.

    So except for the room you are actually in when you need to blowdry your hair.

    The last time I needed to take a shit, I wasn't in the bathroom. I moved to the bathroom and took a shit. Are you incapable of moving between rooms when your hair is wet?

    You might as well complain that your house/flat doesn't have cooking facilities because the kitchen is in a different room to the TV.

    You go through alot of trouble to avoid a problem that doesn't actually exist.

    You get out of the shower/bath, you need to dry your hair. The logical thing to do is do it in the room you are already in, which has all the shit you need for the process already at hand. And a sink to boot, which is very useful for many things too.

    A sink as well? I know that when I'm drying my hair, I really need a source of water.

    In fact, the logical thing to do would be to put the shower, the toilet and the entire kitchen in the bedroom because you're already in that room anyway.

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    In fact, the logical thing to do would be to put the shower, the toilet and the entire kitchen in the bedroom because you're already in that room anyway.

    Like a master suite?

    Okay, except for the kitchen bit.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Man, you're really angry that people might have a differently designed bathroom than you and have grown accustomed to it.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    this is probably the stupidest argument this thread could produce

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    this is probably the stupidest argument this thread could produce

    nu-uh
    : D

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    The last time I needed to take a shit, I wasn't in the bathroom. I moved to the bathroom and took a shit. Are you incapable of moving between rooms when your hair is wet?

    You might as well complain that your house/flat doesn't have cooking facilities because the kitchen is in a different room to the TV.

    Depending the the layout, occupants, and whether you are living there or a guest blow-drying your hair outside the bathroom may be a pain in the ass.

    Like, if you're using a guest bath (or one that isn't part of a master bedroom), and don't want to come out shirtless, but don't want your long wet hair getting your shirt all wet. If only there was some way to dry your hair in the room before being forced to get dressed.

    You go through alot of trouble to avoid a problem that doesn't actually exist.

    Exactly. I went and dug up numbers, just out of curiosity. For the entire United States, from what I can gather, you're looking at single digit numbers of deaths from electrocution due to use of electronics in bathrooms.

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    Man, you're really angry that people might have a differently designed bathroom than you and have grown accustomed to it.

    OKAY I HAVE A BATHROOM LAYOUT PET PEEVE

    split bathrooms where the toilet is in one room and the sink in another

    Because then I have to touch doorknobs before I wash my hands! That is not hygenic!

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    How else do you blowdry your hair?

    Our oppressive socialist government insists that hairdryers use the same 3-pin plug as every other electrical device. We're forced to be able to use hairdryers in any room in the house except the room where there's a ton of running water.

    Oh how I yearn for freedom.

    So except for the room you are actually in when you need to blowdry your hair.

    The last time I needed to take a shit, I wasn't in the bathroom. I moved to the bathroom and took a shit. Are you incapable of moving between rooms when your hair is wet?

    You might as well complain that your house/flat doesn't have cooking facilities because the kitchen is in a different room to the TV.

    You go through alot of trouble to avoid a problem that doesn't actually exist.

    You get out of the shower/bath, you need to dry your hair. The logical thing to do is do it in the room you are already in, which has all the shit you need for the process already at hand. And a sink to boot, which is very useful for many things too.

    A sink as well? I know that when I'm drying my hair, I really need a source of water.

    The mirror is essential and the sink is good for washing your hands if you use any sort of product (like moisturizer, shaving lotion, makeup etc). It's all right there as you get out of the shower, which is exactly when you need to use it. For coming from a country not known for it's spacious accommodation, you seem awfully set on wasting space in another room when all you need is a plug in a room you already have and that you will be already in.

    In fact, the logical thing to do would be to put the shower, the toilet and the entire kitchen in the bedroom because you're already in that room anyway.

    That's a good idea. Except people don't like to shit in front of other people so usually you put it in a room directly connected to the bedroom and call it a master suite.

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    JuliusJulius Captain of Serenity on my shipRegistered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    How else do you blowdry your hair?

    Our oppressive socialist government insists that hairdryers use the same 3-pin plug as every other electrical device. We're forced to be able to use hairdryers in any room in the house except the room where there's a ton of running water.

    Oh how I yearn for freedom.

    oh come off it

    doing your hair in front of the bathroom mirror is preferred by most ladies, and I would be annoyed to have to run an extension cord

    meh, bathrooms in Europe are usually smaller and a lot of grooming is done in the bedroom. Maybe having a mirror in the bedroom is also something European, I dunno. I've only really seen bathrooms large enough to do everything in new houses.

    Man, my bathroom is 75 centimetres by 2 metres, I can't imagine trying to blowdry your hair there instead of just going to your room. I also can't imagine putting a poweroutlet there since it fogs up within 30 seconds of showering.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Man, you're really angry that people might have a differently designed bathroom than you and have grown accustomed to it.

    OKAY I HAVE A BATHROOM LAYOUT PET PEEVE

    split bathrooms where the toilet is in one room and the sink in another

    Because then I have to touch doorknobs before I wash my hands! That is not hygenic!

    On that same note, public washrooms where the door opens in to the bathroom, meaning the inner handle has been touched by a million unwashed hands.

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    Clown ShoesClown Shoes Give me hay or give me death. Registered User regular
    Man, you're really angry that people might have a differently designed bathroom than you and have grown accustomed to it.

    Angry? No, just bemused. Sorry if it came across as anger, it wasn't intended.

    I'm just genuinely surprised that people are talking about things that I've only seen in hotel rooms as if they're something to be expected in a house.

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    shryke wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Man, you're really angry that people might have a differently designed bathroom than you and have grown accustomed to it.

    OKAY I HAVE A BATHROOM LAYOUT PET PEEVE

    split bathrooms where the toilet is in one room and the sink in another

    Because then I have to touch doorknobs before I wash my hands! That is not hygenic!

    On that same note, public washrooms where the door opens in to the bathroom, meaning the inner handle has been touched by a million unwashed hands.

    I have a tendency to use toilet paper or paper towels to buffer my hands when I touch surfaces in public bathrooms.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Man, you're really angry that people might have a differently designed bathroom than you and have grown accustomed to it.

    OKAY I HAVE A BATHROOM LAYOUT PET PEEVE

    split bathrooms where the toilet is in one room and the sink in another

    Because then I have to touch doorknobs before I wash my hands! That is not hygenic!

    Think of it this way:

    If they were in the same room you'd be touching the doorknob that anyone else who didn't wash their hands touched.

    Though really the only way to avoid this is to provide a sink outside the bathroom which I saw at one burger joint in PI. Added bonus of horribly, horribly shaming anyone who doesn't wash their hands.

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    JuliusJulius Captain of Serenity on my shipRegistered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    For coming from a country not known for it's spacious accommodation, you seem awfully set on wasting space in another room when all you need is a plug in a room you already have and that you will be already in.

    Well that would require large enough bathrooms, which seems a waste of space. Bedrooms have enough wasted space anyway, why not do it in there? It's where I keep my clothes too, it seems odd to suggest that drying of the hair (or other grooming) cannot be done in your bedroom while clothing yourself can.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Man, you're really angry that people might have a differently designed bathroom than you and have grown accustomed to it.

    Angry? No, just bemused. Sorry if it came across as anger, it wasn't intended.

    I'm just genuinely surprised that people are talking about things that I've only seen in hotel rooms as if they're something to be expected in a house.

    Reverse it and you get everyone else's expectations. The only time I haven't seen three pronged sockets are in other countries, specifically in hotels since I've never lived in one long term.

    Shit was annoying for manscaping.

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    Man, you're really angry that people might have a differently designed bathroom than you and have grown accustomed to it.

    Angry? No, just bemused. Sorry if it came across as anger, it wasn't intended.

    I'm just genuinely surprised that people are talking about things that I've only seen in hotel rooms as if they're something to be expected in a house.

    It's more that you were using "zomg running water" as a reason why having this in every house would be a bad idea. When the actual danger is pretty minimal, given modern grounded electronics and GFCIs.

    It's not that you were surprised at the way it was, but rather your suggestion as to the way it should be.

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    Clown ShoesClown Shoes Give me hay or give me death. Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    I have a tendency to use toilet paper or paper towels to buffer my hands when I touch surfaces in public bathrooms.

    I just realised that I may be a working class scumbag.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    In fact now that I think about it it's worth it for manscaping alone. Last time I was in Malaysia I had to wait for my room mate to leave so I could drop a towel on the floor in the main room to catch my pubes. I was standing there naked with a leg perched up on the counter making furtive glances at the door hoping against hope it took at least five minutes to schedule a massage down at the spa. Things were exasperated by the fact that my shaver was American and apparently Malaysians use eleven jillion watts more in their electronics causing my electric razor to shake like an industrial strength vibrator.

    Quid on
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    Quid wrote: »
    In fact now that I think about it it's worth it for manscaping alone. Last time I was in Malaysia I had to wait for my room mate to leave so I could drop a towel on the floor in the main room to catch my pubes. I was standing there naked with a leg perched up on the counter making furtive glances at the door hoping against hope it took at least five minutes to schedule a massage down at the spa. Things were exasperated by the fact that my shaver was American and apparently Malaysians use eleven jillion watts more in their electronics causing my electric razor to shake like an industrial strength vibrator.

    Imagine the absolute horror if you're a girl traveling with a Hitachi magic wand...

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    Feral wrote: »
    I have a tendency to use toilet paper or paper towels to buffer my hands when I touch surfaces in public bathrooms.

    I just realised that I may be a working class scumbag.

    No, it's not you, it's me. Someday I'll be an old man wandering around with kleenex boxes on my feet muttering "the way of the future" to myself.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
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    Feral wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Man, you're really angry that people might have a differently designed bathroom than you and have grown accustomed to it.

    OKAY I HAVE A BATHROOM LAYOUT PET PEEVE

    split bathrooms where the toilet is in one room and the sink in another

    Because then I have to touch doorknobs before I wash my hands! That is not hygenic!

    On that same note, public washrooms where the door opens in to the bathroom, meaning the inner handle has been touched by a million unwashed hands.

    I have a tendency to use toilet paper or paper towels to buffer my hands when I touch surfaces in public bathrooms.

    You only need to do this after you've washed your hands and are on your way out of the bathroom.

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    MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Man, you're really angry that people might have a differently designed bathroom than you and have grown accustomed to it.

    OKAY I HAVE A BATHROOM LAYOUT PET PEEVE

    split bathrooms where the toilet is in one room and the sink in another

    Because then I have to touch doorknobs before I wash my hands! That is not hygenic!

    In a two person household, I much prefer this setup. Especially in the morning when we're getting ready.

    Move to New Zealand
    It’s not a very important country most of the time
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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    In fact now that I think about it it's worth it for manscaping alone. Last time I was in Malaysia I had to wait for my room mate to leave so I could drop a towel on the floor in the main room to catch my pubes. I was standing there naked with a leg perched up on the counter making furtive glances at the door hoping against hope it took at least five minutes to schedule a massage down at the spa. Things were exasperated by the fact that my shaver was American and apparently Malaysians use eleven jillion watts more in their electronics causing my electric razor to shake like an industrial strength vibrator.

    Imagine the absolute horror if you're a girl traveling with a Hitachi magic wand...

    Wands don't have whirring blades on the end.

    I mean, not generally. That's pretty niche.

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    Clown ShoesClown Shoes Give me hay or give me death. Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Feral wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I have a tendency to use toilet paper or paper towels to buffer my hands when I touch surfaces in public bathrooms.

    I just realised that I may be a working class scumbag.

    No, it's not you, it's me. Someday I'll be an old man wandering around with kleenex boxes on my feet muttering "the way of the future" to myself.

    I'm not trying to have a go at you, please don't think I am.

    I just found out that what I thought was normal is a hell of a long way from what others think of as normal.

    Clown Shoes on
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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    mcdermott wrote: »
    It's not that you were surprised at the way it was, but rather your suggestion as to the way it should be.
    Feral wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I have a tendency to use toilet paper or paper towels to buffer my hands when I touch surfaces in public bathrooms.

    I just realised that I may be a working class scumbag.

    No, it's not you, it's me. Someday I'll be an old man wandering around with kleenex boxes on my feet muttering "the way of the future" to myself.

    I'm not trying to have a go at you, please don't think I am.

    I just found out that what I thought was normal is a hell of a long way from what others think of as normal.

    You should see the people who find out basements aren't the norm in large swaths of the world.

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    MadCaddyMadCaddy Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Quid wrote: »
    mcdermott wrote: »
    It's not that you were surprised at the way it was, but rather your suggestion as to the way it should be.
    Feral wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I have a tendency to use toilet paper or paper towels to buffer my hands when I touch surfaces in public bathrooms.

    I just realised that I may be a working class scumbag.

    No, it's not you, it's me. Someday I'll be an old man wandering around with kleenex boxes on my feet muttering "the way of the future" to myself.

    I'm not trying to have a go at you, please don't think I am.

    I just found out that what I thought was normal is a hell of a long way from what others think of as normal.

    You should see the people who find out basements aren't the norm in large swaths of the world.

    I get a comment on the fact that my rental has one everytime someone sees it... and I live in Southern California.. Within a mile of the beach.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    I have never lived in a place with a basement that wasn't just a parking garage.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    MadCaddyMadCaddy Registered User regular
    It's my first, but it's only used for storage/running wires and isn't finished or anything.. I've been in houses that've been pre-1950 or very rural that've had them otherwise in California.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Basements are often separate buildings. And old. The one where I grew up was some kind of JRPG-dungeon in a hill, with only one room.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Assuming you have a GFI, there is nothing dangerous about outlets in a bathroom.

    Even without GFI, unless you're dropping a fucking toaster in your tub with you, it's still fairly safe.

    Why is this even being questioned. It's like watching people who are scared to death of removing a broken ground connector from the ground in an outlet like it's going to murderdeathkill them or something.

    Don't stand in a puddle of water with your hand wrapped around a frayed wire whilst drying your hair, if this is an issue.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    rockrngerrockrnger Registered User regular
    Two things for everyone to remember.

    1)Different countries have different power grids and different ways of wiring things. What may be safe in the US might not be in the UK.
    2)Regulations don't, for the most part, happen for no reason.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    It probably helps to not stand in a puddle of water and wrap your hand around a frayed wire, though, you will admit.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    I am happy to live in a country where I can proudly have my 4-socket ground fault plugs to the immediate right of mirror and sink.
    rockrnger wrote: »
    1)Different countries have different power grids and different ways of wiring things. What may be safe in the US might not be in the UK.
    2)Regulations don't, for the most part, happen for no reason.

    "Well Doctor, i kept trying to use my hair dryer and that damn fault on the socket kept clicking over. So I just jammed a dime in there to keep it from clicking off. Last thing I remember is drying my hair after a shower and then waking up here."

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    How else do you blowdry your hair?

    Our oppressive socialist government insists that hairdryers use the same 3-pin plug as every other electrical device. We're forced to be able to use hairdryers in any room in the house except the room where there's a ton of running water.

    Oh how I yearn for freedom.

    So except for the room you are actually in when you need to blowdry your hair.

    The last time I needed to take a shit, I wasn't in the bathroom. I moved to the bathroom and took a shit. Are you incapable of moving between rooms when your hair is wet?

    You might as well complain that your house/flat doesn't have cooking facilities because the kitchen is in a different room to the TV.

    The point is that the way the British wire their houses is a dangerous relic from the post war period.

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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    How else do you blowdry your hair?

    Our oppressive socialist government insists that hairdryers use the same 3-pin plug as every other electrical device. We're forced to be able to use hairdryers in any room in the house except the room where there's a ton of running water.

    Oh how I yearn for freedom.

    So except for the room you are actually in when you need to blowdry your hair.

    The last time I needed to take a shit, I wasn't in the bathroom. I moved to the bathroom and took a shit. Are you incapable of moving between rooms when your hair is wet?

    You might as well complain that your house/flat doesn't have cooking facilities because the kitchen is in a different room to the TV.

    The point is that the way the British wire their houses is a dangerous relic from the post war period.

    I thought this was on purpose because without all the gun violence, the British don't have an acceptable level of danger in their daily lives so you need to add some around the house to keep people from getting too complacent

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    MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    mcdermott wrote: »
    It's not that you were surprised at the way it was, but rather your suggestion as to the way it should be.
    Feral wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I have a tendency to use toilet paper or paper towels to buffer my hands when I touch surfaces in public bathrooms.

    I just realised that I may be a working class scumbag.

    No, it's not you, it's me. Someday I'll be an old man wandering around with kleenex boxes on my feet muttering "the way of the future" to myself.

    I'm not trying to have a go at you, please don't think I am.

    I just found out that what I thought was normal is a hell of a long way from what others think of as normal.

    You should see the people who find out basements aren't the norm in large swaths of the world.

    I recently talked to a guy from texas (From Austin, so he's a cool Texan), and was surprised when he said he had no basement. I asked him "but what about Tornados, don't you have something underground, like a tornado cellar?" After all, every tornado movie I've watched, there are underground bunkers where the family hides. Apparently he had a specifically designed above ground room built in that case. I can't remember the specifics, but I do remember coming across as a complete idiot.

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