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[Industry Thread] Impossible Games sets the speed record for studio closure
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And now, December's sales figures.So the December NPDs are up.Xbox 360: 1.4M (-17.6%) ["More than double the amount of the second place console in the U.S. in the month of December."]Outside of that, it is apparently a shit month.Gamasutra @gamasutra
NPD says that fewer Wii Us were sold last month than the original Wii sold in its first December in 2006.It was bad news as usual for the retail video game industry in the United States last month.
Analysts at the NPD Group say that retail sales across the video game industry were down 22% in December, from $4.1 billion in 2011 to $3.21 billion this time around.
As usual, software caused the biggest hit (dollar sales were down 27%), which analyst Liam Callahan attributes to fewer releases.
"A major culprit in the decline in retail sales in 2012 was the lack of new releases with 29% less SKUs across consoles, portables, and PCs," he said in a statement.
"However, the SKUs that were released generated 8% more units per SKU and 11% more dollars per SKU."
The top-selling debut title of the month was Ubisoft's Far Cry 3, though it was Activison's November release of Call of Duty: Black Ops II that topped the overall charts.
By the Numbers
Video game hardware: $1.07B (-20%)
Video game software (console, handheld): $1.54B (-26%)
Video game software (console, handheld, and PC): $1.58B (-27%)
Video game accessories: $603M (-14%)
Total video game sales: $3.21B (-22%)Wii U sales are thoroughly mediocre.Wii U: 460K [The Wii launch was 604K]
Wii + DS + 3DS combined: 2.16MSirUltimos wrote: »More Nintendo numbers:New Super Mario Bros. U has now sold more than 580,000 units, an attach rate of more than 65 percent.
Nintendo 3DS sold more than 1.25 million units in December and has crossed 7.7 million units sold life to date.
New Super Mario Bros. 2 became the fourth Nintendo 3DS title to surpass 1 million units sold in the U.S., and has now sold more than 1.45 million units life to date.
Nintendo 3DS continues to outpace the historic sales rate of Nintendo DS.
Wii sold nearly 475,000 units and crossed 40.8 million units sold life to date.
Ubisoft’s Just Dance 3 became the 10th Wii title to sell more than 5 million units life to date.
Nintendo DS sold nearly 470,000 units and crossed 53 million units sold life to date.
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At any rate, here's what I'm talking about in the title, Disney Infinity:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/1/15/3879612/disney-infinity
SPACESHIP EARTH!?
Sold. Sold. Sold sold sold sold sold. Sold.
Sold.
SOLD.
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I hope this is as fun as it looks like it could be.
But, is it like multiplayer? Solo?
And I saw no Darkwing Duck or GizmoDuck which saddens me and I hope they don't forget about them.
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Oh, it's a Skylanders clone? Assuming it'll be as crappy as their LittleBigPlanet clone; I'll probably skip it.
Why wouldn't it? It's multiplatform, and it's Disney.
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Yikes! When I asked in the previous thread when would they take my money, I didn't mean all of it.
For someone who knows nothing about skylanders...wat?
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Supposedly there's Minecraft and Little Big Planet mixed in there too. Hence Spaceship Earth next to Niceland Apartments next to Tangled lanterns.
I know. What I'm getting at is everyone understands how to do brand mash-ups except Sony.
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I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
The same reason Skylanders Giants doesn't use it.
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Except Disney, because they're gonna make a shitload of money.
The LBP clone is actually a Lego game clone, but whatever.
Also this is not really a Skylanders clone. It's as much or more a Minecraft/LBP clone. Or just check out Toy Story 3's Toy Box and multiply that by 50.
Disney to buy everyone in 2013.
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By the way I totally forgot about Kingdom Hearts when I made this post so it's already happened.
Imagine all the little figurines we'd get from that.
And movies! And TV shows! And clothing lines!
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I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
With Star Wars under their belt now, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that happens.
I think Disney Infinity will do fine (and certainly outperform PSABR) but Epic Mickey 2 certainly didn't make much of a splash.
Really thought it would make the top 10 in the NPDs at the very least.
That only applies to movies... if they want to plop in Avengers and Spider-Man and X-Men and Howard the Duck, they're free to.
At any rate, I think this game may show that Disney's FINALLY figured out how to leverage their in-house properties for boys. They've had girls sewn up for years through the princesses, but nothing they've tried has clicked with the male crowd. Even Kingdom Hearts was flubbed in that regard (the game did well, but Disney's heritage department put the kibosh on a KH cartoon and merch was very, very limited).
As far as Epic Mickey 2 goes, the first game was rough, its perception didn't stick with kids or escape the "teh kiddy" ghetto, and it sucked.
More specifically because Skylanders was designed with two way communication being assumed at all times, or something like that, so you'd have to hold it there as you play.
It may be that it's easier for Disney Infinity to use the same interface on every platform so as not to complicate just one release.
Nintendo's NFC usage seems to be intended like a quick card scan thing, not a wireless-yet-local storage space sort of thing.
The wii was only the beginning.
The skylanders starter packs go for $70. These prices are in the same ball park, and Activision has pulled in $50 million? I might have an extra zero there, but I don't think so.
Indeed it does!
How much does it cost? And 500GB is pretty fucking rad for HDD space.
I've seen Skylanders figures on sale multiple times as well, with "B2G1F" sales often, especially during the holidays, so I'm not terribly concerned about this taking a huge chunk of my finances...yet.
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$299. As much as the ginormous HDD space is nice that's still way too expensive for the end of the generation.
Don't forget games like this are made to keep selling you figure pack after figure pack. I doubt Disney has forgot about any property they own (Gargoyles, Tail Spin, Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers, Phineas and Pherb, their new pirate show, etc etc etc)