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    BullioBullio Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Khade97 wrote: »
    Comixology's stuff is all DRM'd, on the PC the way to access it is is through their website.
    Humm, that worries me a little - but probably only because I had not heard of the site before today. Is them going out of business and you loosing access something to worry about, or are they a big enough player in the market for that to be a non-issue. (I am guessing if they have the backing of players like Marvel that is a good sign). Saying that however, are there any alternatives (other than hard copies)?
    And yeah the last thing is a "silly" thing to say, almost all of the NOW! relaunches are great points for a new reader to jump on.
    Would it be worth getting the X-Men: Season 1 compilation before All-New X-Men?

    ComiXology is not in danger of going out of business. They were the third highest grossing iOS app last year (because they sell comics as IAPs), and the digital comics business is going nowhere but up. The easiest way to explain their DRM is to compare it to Steam, especially if you're on Windows 8 or have a mobile device, as it works the same way. You buy the books from them, and you use their apps to download and read them. When you're done reading them, you can delete them off your device and they're stored on comixology's servers so that you can download them again whenever you want. If you're reading on a non-Windows 8 PC, then you use the web viewer through their website.

    I posted this not long ago about where to start with X-Men, and it ought to help you. The 90's X-Men cartoon drew inspiration from and adapted stories from all over the X-Men's history up to that point, so it's a little difficult to pin down an exact era to read for just those stories. Those first 5 Marvel Masterworks volumes of Uncanny X-Men (*important*: make sure you get the Uncanny X-Men MM's and not just "X-Men" as the latter collects the books before the Giant-Sized team became the norm) contain some of the strongest and most beloved X-Men stories and I can't recommend them enough (all of the Phoenix stuff officially starts in volume 2, but there's a build up to it that starts in volume 1).

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    TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    Can anyone recommend some good cyberpunk comics? Maybe something heavily focused on transhumansim like Battle Angel Alita or Ghost in the Shell, but not necessarily manga?

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    Transmetropolitan maybe? It's almost post cyber punk but has plenty of its elements

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Transmetropolitan maybe? It's almost post cyber punk but has plenty of its elements

    it's also got a lot more of the -punk than most examples of the genre.

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    LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    Oh boy, perusing the Comixology site/app after snagging a new Kindle Fire has me in full-on "I'm in some real fucking trouble here" mode.

    I am torn between re-reading a bunch of the comics I remember reading during my teens and 20s to see if they still hold up or trying to sample the hip new comics the kids today are into.

    I am a bit peeved at how spotty the digital availability of classic Marvel stuff seems to be. Like, I'd snag the original Fantastic Four Galactus story arc in a heartbeat, but the only Lee/Kirby FF available seems to be the first 10 or so issues.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Yeah, they put up more back issues every week, but there's just so many it's taking forever.

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    So, a quick question.

    Back in 2010, Sam Worthington announced his work with Full Clip Productions had lead them to teaming with Radical Entertainment. One of the projects he mentioned was a title called "Patriots" where the tagline was (googlefu) "If you had to sacrifice one continent to save the other six, would you do it?"

    That line stuck with me and I find myself wondering if they ever got around to publishing it. Amazon fails me and "Patriots" is such an obscenely generic term.

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    I remember seeing an article linked in a thread here a while ago in which someone showed their process for taking multiple floppies or trades and re-binding them into a hardcover omnibus - anyone remember where that was?

    I have a project in mind.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I think I remember seeing the same article, let's see if my Google Fu can locate it...

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    oh wow that seems a lot more reasonable than the bindery I found

    Gonna have the classiest JIM Omnibus

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    The urge to hit that spammer with a cupid arrow is mindnumbing.

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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    The urge to hit that spammer with a cupid arrow is mindnumbing.

    I don't think they work like regular arrows :(

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    glithertglithert Registered User regular
    I guess this is the thread to post it in...

    What's the good stuff on comixology? I like superheros doing super stuff and not being bogged down with angst and shit.

    Sci-fi and fantasy is cool, too.

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    Khade97Khade97 PE10, UKRegistered User regular
    The new Iron Man film has given me a push to delving into the comics. Would the following be a good jumping on points with just knowing the basics of the series? (i.e. super rich but "normal" guy builds exo suit, fights evil and looks good doing it)

    Iron Man: Extremis
    Iron Man: Execute Program
    Iron Man: Believe (Marvel NOW is the same continuity, right?)

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Yeah, the was no reboot in Marvel. Marvel now is just the branding their using for their current push; it's all the same continuity.

    Well, aside from the Ultimate Universe.. and the 2099 universe.. and you know what, just yet. Yes Marvel Now is in the same continuity.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    glithert wrote: »
    I guess this is the thread to post it in...

    What's the good stuff on comixology? I like superheros doing super stuff and not being bogged down with angst and shit.

    Sci-fi and fantasy is cool, too.

    Dude, there is a lot of good stuff on Comixology. As far as currently ongoing series, I think you'll like:

    Superheroes:
    Daredevil by Mark Waid
    Hawkeye by Matt Fraction
    Captain Marvel by Kelly Sue DeConnick
    Indestructible Hulk by Mark Waid
    The Flash by Francis Manapul

    Any one of those you can jump right on with issue #1 and have fun.

    For sci-fi and fantasy:

    Atomic Robo
    Fables
    The Manhattan Projects
    Saga
    Skullkickers

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    If I wanted to get into comics, and prefer the Marvel universe/characters to DC, is Marvel Unlimited a good option? Netflix for comics seems like a great thing, but I dunno how it's implementation is.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Khade97 wrote: »
    The new Iron Man film has given me a push to delving into the comics. Would the following be a good jumping on points with just knowing the basics of the series? (i.e. super rich but "normal" guy builds exo suit, fights evil and looks good doing it)

    Iron Man: Extremis
    Iron Man: Execute Program
    Iron Man: Believe (Marvel NOW is the same continuity, right?)

    Marvel NOW is just branding Marvel is doing for their comics lately. See, a few months ago they changes writers on almost every series and renumbered the issues back to #1. They didn't change any continuity though, they just focused on starting new stories with their characters that would be accessible to new readers.

    What you've got there is good, but I would also recommend checking out The Invincible Iron Man series, which is long, but really good.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    If I wanted to get into comics, and prefer the Marvel universe/characters to DC, is Marvel Unlimited a good option? Netflix for comics seems like a great thing, but I dunno how it's implementation is.

    Marvel Unlimited is definitely a very cost-effective way to read a shit-load of comics. What I've heard though is that the tablet app is not the best piece of software ever written. If you haven't tried it before, I believe they have a 14 day free trial deal, though.

    What I would also recommend is checking your local library. Most libraries in my experience have a pretty good selection of comics.

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    BullioBullio Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Knight_ wrote: »
    If I wanted to get into comics, and prefer the Marvel universe/characters to DC, is Marvel Unlimited a good option? Netflix for comics seems like a great thing, but I dunno how it's implementation is.

    Marvel Unlimited is definitely a very cost-effective way to read a shit-load of comics. What I've heard though is that the tablet app is not the best piece of software ever written. If you haven't tried it before, I believe they have a 14 day free trial deal, though.

    What I would also recommend is checking your local library. Most libraries in my experience have a pretty good selection of comics.

    That's putting it kindly. It received an update a couple days ago that actually made it (sort of) usable on my iPad again, and they made some much needed changes to the reader itself, but it's still just barely a passable app. This last update was the first one that didn't actually make the app worse to use. I find the web version of the service completely unusable. Website takes forever to load, and if it does it's just a low-bandwidth version.

    If you think you need to try it for yourself, download the app and check it out in free preview mode first. And then only commit to a one month membership for thorough testing. If it works well for you, congrats on being perhaps the only person that it does and I guess feel free to get the cheaper 12 month sub.

    Khade97 wrote: »
    The new Iron Man film has given me a push to delving into the comics. Would the following be a good jumping on points with just knowing the basics of the series? (i.e. super rich but "normal" guy builds exo suit, fights evil and looks good doing it)

    Iron Man: Extremis
    Iron Man: Execute Program
    Iron Man: Believe (Marvel NOW is the same continuity, right?)

    I believe IM3 incorporates Extremis, and the Extremis comic pretty much rebooted the origin story, so it'd be a fine place to start. You could also just watch the Extremis motion comic on Hulu for free, which is like a sorta-animated voice-acted version of the print comic.
    glithert wrote: »
    I guess this is the thread to post it in...

    What's the good stuff on comixology? I like superheros doing super stuff and not being bogged down with angst and shit.

    Sci-fi and fantasy is cool, too.

    Dude, there is a lot of good stuff on Comixology. As far as currently ongoing series, I think you'll like:

    Superheroes:
    Daredevil by Mark Waid
    Hawkeye by Matt Fraction
    Captain Marvel by Kelly Sue DeConnick
    Indestructible Hulk by Mark Waid
    The Flash by Francis Manapul

    Any one of those you can jump right on with issue #1 and have fun.

    For sci-fi and fantasy:

    Atomic Robo
    Fables
    The Manhattan Projects
    Saga
    Skullkickers

    Would also add Johnathan Hickman's Fantastic Four/FF run. I'm not sure I can come up with a more memorable, straight up awe-inspiring example of "super people doing super things" than F4 600-604. Bastard set the bar to nearly unreachable heights by which I've come to judge all other super hero books with that whole run.

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    glithertglithert Registered User regular
    I'm not really looking for ongoing titles, I'm more interested in the older stuff. If I can go buy it at the LCS I'd rather get physical copies. I'm talking about stuff like Power Girl ,where the second trade alone will cost $50 but I can pick up each issue on Comixology for $1.99.

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Someone was saying the DnA cosmic stuff had come/was coming to Comixology a while back ? That's a hard to collect series I've heard.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Let's see here (Not listed in reading order)

    Annihilation Book 1 seems to have vanished, so you'd have to buy the components.. Wait, nevermind, I found it. You just need to buy the Drax story separately.

    Thanos (2003) #1-12 is not on Comixlogy, which is a bummer since it sets up some stuff in Annihilation.

    Annihilation and Annihilation: Conquest
    Drax the Destroyer
    Annihilation Book 1
    Annihilation Book 2
    Annihilation Book 3
    Annihilation Conquest Book 1
    Annihilation Conquest Book 2

    Ongoings
    Nova (2007) #1-36 + Annual (Issues 4-7 are included in Annihilation: Conquest Book 2, issues #29-36 aren't in a collection
    Guardians of the Galaxy (2008) #1-25 Issues 13-25 aren't in a collection

    Now it's gets messy
    War of Kings
    Emperor Vulcan (Not Available)
    Secret Invasions: Inhumans #1-4
    War of Kings: Warriors #1-2
    War of Kings; Darkhawk #1-2
    War of Kings: Ascension #1-4
    War of Kings (Includes Secret Invasion: War of Kings and War of Kings: Who Will Rule?)

    Realm of Kings
    Realm of Kings One-Shot
    Realm of Kings: Imperial Guard #1-5
    Realm of Kings: Inhumans #1-5
    There's also a Realm of Kings: Son of Hulk story, but dear christ is it skippable.

    Everything Else
    The Thanos Imperative
    Annihilators #1-4
    Annihilators: Earthfall is not up on Comixology, but it wasn't a great story to begin with.

    And that was pretty much the end of that era of Cosmic Marvel. Gets really soggy during the War of Kings, but it's otherwise a fairly easy read. I'll see if I can't dig up a reading order.

    EDIT: There is this: http://i.imgur.com/tarIC.jpg

    But that's a really rough read order.. there's a lot of simultaneously occurring comics during the War of Kings. I'll see if I can dig up a better one. (Put Secret Invasion: Inhumans next to Emperor Vulcan on that)

    EDIT2: Like, this was based on reading from trades, but it should still work. I haven't tested this out myself, so if the chronology gets fubared, I apologize ahead of time. If anyone has any adjustments they'd suggest, I'd be all years.
    Modern Marvel Cosmic Reading Order
    Annihilation Classic
    Thanos #1-6 (Thanos: Ephiphany)
    Thanos #7-12 (Thanos: Samaritan)
    Annihilation Books 1-3
    Nova #1-3 (Nova 1: Annihilation - Conquest)
    Annihilation: Conquest 1
    Nova #4-7 (Nova 1: Annihilation – Conquest)
    Nova #8-10 & Nova Annual #1 (Nova 2: Knowhere)
    Wraith #1-4 (Annihilation: Conquest 2)
    Annihilation: Conquest #1 (Annihilation: Conquest 2)
    Nova #11-12 (Nova 2: Knowhere)
    Annihilation: Conquest #2-6 (Annihilation: Conquest 2)
    Guardians of the Galaxy #1-6 (Guardians of the Galaxy 1: Legacy)
    Nova #13-18 (Nova 3: Secret Invasion)
    Nova #19-22 (Nova 4: Nova Corps)
    Secret Invasion: Inhumans (Secret Invasion: Inhumans)
    War of Kings: Darkhawk #1-2 (War of Kings: Warriors)
    Emperor Vulcan (Emperor Vulcan)
    War of Kings Saga (Road to the War of Kings)
    “The Hole” from X-Men: Divided We Stand #2 (Road to the War of Kings)
    X-Men Kingbreaker #1 (Road to the War of Kings)
    War of Kings: Warriors #1 (War of Kings: Warriors)
    Guardians of the Galaxy #7 - #10 (Guardians of the Galaxy 2: War of Kings Book 1)
    Secret Invasion: War of Kings (Road to the War of Kings or War of Kings)
    War of Kings: Warriors #2 – Crystal (War of Kings: Warriors)
    X-Men: Kingbreaker #2 - #4 (Road to the War of Kings)
    War of Kings: Warriors #2 – Lilandra (War of Kings: Warriors)
    Guardians of the Galaxy #11 - #12 (Road to the War of Kings)
    War of Kings #1 (War of Kings)
    Nova #23 - #24 (Nova 5: War of Kings)
    War of Kings #2 (War of Kings)
    War of Kings Savage World of Sakaar (War of Kings: Warriors)
    War of Kings Ascension #1 (War of Kings: Warriors)
    Guardians of the Galaxy #13 (Guardians of the Galaxy 2: War of Kings Book 2)
    War of Kings #3 (War of Kings)
    War of Kings Ascension #2 (War of Kings: Warriors)
    Nova #25 (Nova 5: War of Kings)
    Guardians of the Galaxy #14 (Guardians of the Galaxy 2: War of Kings Book 2)
    Nova #26 (Nova 5: War of Kings)
    War of Kings #4 (War of Kings)
    War of Kings Ascension #3 (War of Kings: Warriors)
    Guardians of the Galaxy #15 (Guardians of the Galaxy 2: War of Kings Book 2)
    War of Kings #5 (War of Kings)
    War of Kings Ascension #4 (War of Kings: Warriors)
    Nova #27 (Nova 5: War of Kings)
    Guardians of the Galaxy #16 (Guardians of the Galaxy 2: War of Kings Book 2)
    War of Kings #6 (War of Kings)
    Guardians of the Galaxy #17 (Guardians of the Galaxy 2: War of Kings Book 2)
    Nova #28 (Nova 5: War of Kings)
    War of Kings: Who Will Rule? (War of Kings)
    Guardians of the Galaxy #18-19 (Guardians of the Galaxy 2: War of Kings Book 2)
    Nova #29-30 (Nova 6: Realm of Kings)
    Realm of Kings (Realm of Kings)
    Realm of Kings: Inhumans #1-5 (Realm of Kings)
    Realm of Kings: Imperial Guard #1-5 (Realm of Kings)
    Nova #31-35 (Nova 6: Realm of Kings)
    Guardians of the Galaxy #20-25 (Guardians of the Galaxy 4: Realm of Kings)
    The Thanos Imperative
    Annihilators
    Annihilators: Earthfall

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    BullioBullio Registered User regular
    Since someone in here was asking about it, a good amount Iron Man stuff (Extremis onwards) is on sale on comiXology for Marvel Friday.

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    AmiguAmigu Registered User regular
    glithert wrote: »
    I guess this is the thread to post it in...

    What's the good stuff on comixology? I like superheros doing super stuff and not being bogged down with angst and shit.

    Sci-fi and fantasy is cool, too.

    I'd ad Matt Fraction's FF run for super heroes and the reboot of Prophet (which starts with issue 21) for sci fi. Prophet 21 is free so no harm in giving it a spin.

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    GuekGuek Registered User regular
    So I'm thinking of starting to read Hickman's run on either Fantastic Four or the Ultimates. Which would you guys recommend more highly? I know that the FF run has been going on for awhile and I've heard great things about it. On the other hand, I really enjoyed Millar's Ultimates run and I hear Hickman does a great job with the series. Thoughts?

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I would put his FF run above his Ultimates run, but his Ultimates really is fantastic and is a much shorter read.

    This is the entirety of his Ultimates run, plus the Bendis story that sets it up:

    Ultimate Doomsday #1-5
    Ultimate Comics Ultimates #1-12


    Whereas his FF run looks like this:

    Dark Reign: Fantastic Four #1-5
    Fantastic Four #570-588
    FF #1-11
    Fantastic Four #600-608
    FF #12-19

    There's an omnibus of Hickman's Fantastic Four stuff coming out in October, you might want to wait for that.

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    GuekGuek Registered User regular
    OOOH omnibus? Thanks for the heads up, you probably saved me a ton of money

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Oh yeah, check it out!

    http://amzn.com/0785165665

    Now this is just the first omnibus volume, but it has Dark Reign: Fantastic Four #1-5 and the Dark Reign : The Cabal one-shot that wasn't collected anywhere else, along with Fantastic Four #570-588 and FF #1-5. If you pre-order now you can get it for 25% off.

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    MyNameIsWalrusMyNameIsWalrus Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
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    KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    Bullio wrote: »
    Knight_ wrote: »
    If I wanted to get into comics, and prefer the Marvel universe/characters to DC, is Marvel Unlimited a good option? Netflix for comics seems like a great thing, but I dunno how it's implementation is.

    Marvel Unlimited is definitely a very cost-effective way to read a shit-load of comics. What I've heard though is that the tablet app is not the best piece of software ever written. If you haven't tried it before, I believe they have a 14 day free trial deal, though.

    What I would also recommend is checking your local library. Most libraries in my experience have a pretty good selection of comics.

    That's putting it kindly. It received an update a couple days ago that actually made it (sort of) usable on my iPad again, and they made some much needed changes to the reader itself, but it's still just barely a passable app. This last update was the first one that didn't actually make the app worse to use. I find the web version of the service completely unusable. Website takes forever to load, and if it does it's just a low-bandwidth version.

    If you think you need to try it for yourself, download the app and check it out in free preview mode first. And then only commit to a one month membership for thorough testing. If it works well for you, congrats on being perhaps the only person that it does and I guess feel free to get the cheaper 12 month sub.


    Sadly it must be too late, as I am apparently the person that it works well for.

    Seriously though, I love MDCU. Aside from very rare graphic novel pickups like Kingdom Come, I hadn't touched comics in about 20 years. A year ago I gave MDCU a try and have read through so much stuff since then. I think I started with Daredevil #1 from 1998, and read through every issue up to the most recent available online. Along the way I would branch out periodically to keep up with a crossover or whatever. When I was done I went through some Heroes for Hire and the Immortal Iron Fist. Then I think I moved on to the first couple of Ultimates, and some Avengers runs since I hadn't really ever read them before. Then some Iron Man bits like Extremis.

    I went through a ton of other stories that were related in one way or another to the current MCU, and branched off whenever a particular character or team intrigued me. Every so often I'd come back to the recommendations from this forum to try something different.

    Lately I've taken to just scrolling down the series list and clicking on something I'm not familiar with to see if it looks interesting. Sometimes I find some total crap, and other times it works out really well. Like last week, I found myself wondering who Madrox was. Read his little series and then went straight into X-Factor, which I loved. Read all the way through issue 240, and decided to go ahead and order Breaking Points from Amazon since they don't have all of the issues on MDCU.

    I've never tried it on a tablet, but MDCU works just fine for me on my PC. The website is slow at times, but it works normally more often than not. Every once in a while the site seems to be totally down. C'est la vie. In the months where I have more time and inclination I go through hundreds of issues for $5 - I cannot beat that deal. My only complaint is that sometimes you get text that is impossible to read (most black text on dark backgrounds). That can be annoying. Other times you get speech bubbles that appear to have been intentionally blocked out for no apparent reason, and that's even more annoying. It's a small enough percentage of the overall content that I just shrug and move on though.

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    BullioBullio Registered User regular
    If I were wanting to check out the Dragon Ball/Z mangas, what would be the best way to do so? There seems to be a mess of different versions available and I know absolutely nothing about the medium. Is the only way to get them on an iPad via the VIZ Media app?

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    AmiguAmigu Registered User regular
    I'd say the way to go is hard copy manga. The ones that are in the thick A5 (?) format and printed from right to left.

    I know that for a while tere comic publishers were trying to sell manga in comic issue formats and often they used mirrored art and stuff. Avoid that, it ruins the experience!

    As for digital I'm not sure. I know that manga is really behind on that front. Also be aware that DBZ and Dragonball are part of a continuous arc but are very different in feel.

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    BullioBullio Registered User regular
    Oh, I'm very aware of the differences between DB and Z. I spent a few good years of my teens watching it and being a general psycho for it. I've just never checked out the manga and was thinking about that fact the other day.

    The VizBig 3-in-1's were what I was originally thinking of looking into, though it looks like volumes 4 and 5 are hard to find (in that they're not in stock on Amazon) and 3rd party copies go for stupid amounts of money. But I see Viz is releasing new, cheaper 3-in-1's that are supposedly uncensored versions of the whole shebang starting next month, so I guess I'm going to wait and see what the verdict is on this new edition before deciding what to do.

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    AmiguAmigu Registered User regular
    Yeah definitely go for uncensored. It's all about the Goku peen and Bulma showing Muternroshi her privates.

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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    What good non-Marvel comics should I add to the pull list I'm creating at my (I guess) new store?

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    X-O Manowar
    Bloodshot
    East of West
    Manhattan Projects
    Bravest Warriors

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Saga, The Manhattan Projects, East of West, and Nowhere Men.

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Manhattan Projects, More Than Meets the Eye, East of West

    maybe Hellboy in Hell?

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