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    electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    Something about art students getting good grades for hurting people and trashing public spaces reminds of that old Onion article: ACLU sues to defend the right of the the KKK to burn down ACLU headquarters.

    Isn't this basically what the original Joker in the Batman movies was?

    "I am the world's first fully functional homicidal artist".

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    Geth, recycle this thread on page 103

    Just to check who has OCD.

    Oh Echo, you're so mischevious!

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Wash wrote: »
    I'm fine with letting freaky performance art be called art, but when it comes to the dangerous, inconsiderate, or basically anything done in public

    you can stage that shit

    if you think you might end up biting an EMT during your performance, hire an actor to be that EMT

    you can stage the whole bloody thing and make it as real as your time, planning, and wallet allow, and it will be just as good.

    yeah, you could

    and should

    or I dunno, an art student could probably write an essay about why the message is different blah blah blah but they're weirdos


    but calling something art isn't an endorsement.

    You could and should, but what is transmitted would be different

    I've actually written papers about this and it's a fairly important distinction between what is real and what is not

    for certain values of "fairly important" :P

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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.

    That's definitely performance art

    And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    This kid, man

    Trying to guide him through LittleBigPlanet2 is painful

    "Just hold on to the cake"

    "No"

    "I promise it'll be fine"

    "NO"

    "If you hold onto the cake, you won't fall"

    "I DIED AND ITS YOUR FAULT"

    Oh brilliant
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    GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in the dickRegistered User regular
    Can Geth make art?

    desc wrote: »
    ~ * swole patrol flying roundhouse kick top performer recognition: April 2014 * ~
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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.

    That's definitely performance art

    And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.

    If she presented it as such, yes.

    You can present any terrible situation you want, but as long as it was presented as art it is art.

    And doing this doesn't substantiate your claims in the least.

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    Ravenhpltc24Ravenhpltc24 So Raven Registered User regular
    This kid, man

    Trying to guide him through LittleBigPlanet2 is painful

    "Just hold on to the cake"

    "No"

    "I promise it'll be fine"

    "NO"

    "If you hold onto the cake, you won't fall"

    "I DIED AND ITS YOUR FAULT"

    :(

    That sounds amazingly frustrating.

    (V) ( ;,,; ) (V)
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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Geth, shill all humans.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    jeep, serious question, what's your definition of art, and why don't these things fit in it?

    If you don't have one, or if they do fit in the one you have, you're talking bullshit. If you do and they do then fine!

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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.

    That's definitely performance art

    And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.

    If she presented it as such, yes.

    You can present any terrible situation you want, but as long as it was presented as art it is art.

    And doing this doesn't substantiate your claims in the least.

    Is this how low we need to set the bar for poetry to be safe as an art form?

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    electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.

    That's definitely performance art

    And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.

    If she presented it as such, yes.

    You can present any terrible situation you want, but as long as it was presented as art it is art.

    And doing this doesn't substantiate your claims in the least.

    This feels like excusing generally psychopathic behavior and lending it a veneer of credibility.

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.

    That's definitely performance art

    And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.

    If she presented it as such, yes.

    You can present any terrible situation you want, but as long as it was presented as art it is art.

    And doing this doesn't substantiate your claims in the least.

    Is this how low we need to set the bar for poetry to be safe as an art form?

    Ah, personal attacks.

    Keep fucking this chicken, Jeep.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.

    That's definitely performance art

    And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.

    If she presented it as such, yes.

    You can present any terrible situation you want, but as long as it was presented as art it is art.

    And doing this doesn't substantiate your claims in the least.

    This feels like excusing generally psychopathic behavior and lending it a veneer of credibility.

    calling it art is not an endorsement.

    it's not an excuse for anything. It's just a description of what kind of thing this thing is.

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    Rear Admiral ChocoRear Admiral Choco I wanna be an owl, Jerry! Owl York CityRegistered User regular
    edited February 2013
    Vanguard wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    like,

    rice, potatoes, beans, chicken breasts, ground beef?!

    what cooking utensils and such will you expect to have

    are you sure the fridge (1) exists (2) works (3) isn't in a horrible condition from the previous tenant, to begin with

    we are getting a brand new fridge

    we have prep equipment

    we are buying necessary gear

    you're still staying in a city

    budget a little more for acquiring initial groceries nearby IMO

    How do you mean?

    Food is more expensive in urban areas.

    Oh yeah, I guess so

    We've always lived in this area though so I never thought to budget less than we are

    Rear Admiral Choco on
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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    so we are all moved

    there is still a ton of arranging to be done but it feels nice to be in a bigger, better place with no loud neighbors and no apartment bullshit and our own garage

    also apparently solid saints came and went during the weekend? wtf

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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    See, it's easy enough to classify absolutely anything as art.

    And the nice thing about that is you don't feel like a bad person when you choose to ignore certain types of art, because you can't possibly take EVERYTHING in.

    And that is how I justify being a philistine. :rotate:

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    edited February 2013
    This kid, man

    Trying to guide him through LittleBigPlanet2 is painful

    "Just hold on to the cake"

    "No"

    "I promise it'll be fine"

    "NO"

    "If you hold onto the cake, you won't fall"

    "I DIED AND ITS YOUR FAULT"

    :(

    That sounds amazingly frustrating.

    Sometimes it makes me feel a modicum of respect for my sister's annoying profession

    Then I remember she dyes her hair pink and that's cool

    Maybe I'm jealous that I can't have pink hair

    But I get epaulettes so no I think I win hahahaha

    Dark Raven X on
    Oh brilliant
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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    jeep, serious question, what's your definition of art, and why don't these things fit in it?

    If you don't have one, or if they do fit in the one you have, you're talking bullshit. If you do and they do then fine!

    Im not yet sure how to define art, but that doesn't mean I have to accept the definition you favor.

    But I am positive that a violent act against another person will never meet my personal definition!

    And you can continue to call me wrong and full of shit with your usual arrogance.

    Its never persuasive.

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.

    That's definitely performance art

    And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.

    If she presented it as such, yes.

    You can present any terrible situation you want, but as long as it was presented as art it is art.

    And doing this doesn't substantiate your claims in the least.

    This feels like excusing generally psychopathic behavior and lending it a veneer of credibility.

    Well, it certainly could just be someone having a psychotic break. But it's a rather pointless line of inquiry since she didn't actually do this.

    There is a long history of artists being severely mentally ill, too. See: Van Gogh, more relevantly, Antonin Artaud (look up the theatre if cruelty)

    The point is, Jeep is not having an honest conversation. He has been pressed to define art. He has opted instead to use personal attacks and (failed attempts) at negation instead.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    See, it's easy enough to classify absolutely anything as art.

    And the nice thing about that is you don't feel like a bad person when you choose to ignore certain types of art, because you can't possibly take EVERYTHING in.

    And that is how I justify being a philistine. :rotate:

    Yeah I don't give a shit about most art. But hey, I use my definition of art to define art. So, yeah.

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    wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.

    That's definitely performance art

    And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.

    If she presented it as such, yes.

    You can present any terrible situation you want, but as long as it was presented as art it is art.

    And doing this doesn't substantiate your claims in the least.

    Is this how low we need to set the bar for poetry to be safe as an art form?

    Ah, personal attacks.

    Keep fucking this chicken, Jeep.

    I'm pretty sure he's just kidding, if it's any consolation.

    Psn:wazukki
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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    jeep, serious question, what's your definition of art, and why don't these things fit in it?

    If you don't have one, or if they do fit in the one you have, you're talking bullshit. If you do and they do then fine!

    Im not yet sure how to define art, but that doesn't mean I have to accept the definition you favor.

    But I am positive that a violent act against another person will never meet my personal definition!

    And you can continue to call me wrong and full of shit with your usual arrogance.

    Its never persuasive.

    Well when you have a definition then come back.

    Because right now you're just trolling.

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    Ravenhpltc24Ravenhpltc24 So Raven Registered User regular
    This kid, man

    Trying to guide him through LittleBigPlanet2 is painful

    "Just hold on to the cake"

    "No"

    "I promise it'll be fine"

    "NO"

    "If you hold onto the cake, you won't fall"

    "I DIED AND ITS YOUR FAULT"

    :(

    That sounds amazingly frustrating.

    Sometimes it makes me feel a modicum of respect for my sister's annoying profession

    Then I remember she dyes her hair pink and that's cool

    Maybe I'm jealous that I can't have pink hair

    But I get epaulettes so no I think I win hahahaha

    Does your sister still live with your mom and brother? Knowing that she has to deal with him full time would earn my respect instantly.

    (V) ( ;,,; ) (V)
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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Anyone know how geth picks the chatmaker?

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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    art is dumb fyi hth

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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.

    That's definitely performance art

    And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.

    If she presented it as such, yes.

    You can present any terrible situation you want, but as long as it was presented as art it is art.

    And doing this doesn't substantiate your claims in the least.

    Is this how low we need to set the bar for poetry to be safe as an art form?

    Ah, personal attacks.

    Keep fucking this chicken, Jeep.

    It was a joke.

    And actually, it was a good one!

    Just at your expense, sorry about that.

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Ugh. . .i have the flu and I have to outside to buy a new belt and dress shirt and nice cards for a handwritten thank you note.

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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    This kid, man

    Trying to guide him through LittleBigPlanet2 is painful

    "Just hold on to the cake"

    "No"

    "I promise it'll be fine"

    "NO"

    "If you hold onto the cake, you won't fall"

    "I DIED AND ITS YOUR FAULT"

    :(

    That sounds amazingly frustrating.

    Raven someone else yelled at me about Awesomes earlier today

    Even IcyLiquid wouldn't come to my defence and provide me with relevant statistics

    I believe I tossed around the term "unfairly lambasted" to describe my issue with the criticism I was receiving

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Naaa

    But to put it in context, this brother of mine most definitely needs help

    But my sister's skills are

    Britta level.

    Oh brilliant
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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    fyi it was a good joke imho

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Discussing what is art always leads to people being angry.

    PSN: Honkalot
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    WashWash Sweet Christmas Registered User regular
    So I've been telling my mom this mlm she's been into is a pyramid scheme for years now

    recently the FTC has gone after it

    again

    she still won't believe it's a pyramid scheme.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Anyone know how geth picks the chatmaker?

    It's the chatter who manages to draw the snark from the stone.

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    TehSlothTehSloth Hit Or Miss I Guess They Never Miss, HuhRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Looks like I might be getting that 30k house and fixing the shit out of it. Gonna make it art.

    I'm thinking about picking up a pretty cheap place as well, do some work on it. It's absolutely insane how high rents still are with how absurdly cheap houses are. I could do 15 years fixed and have the mortgage on a small 2/2 be half of the rent on a similarly sized apartment, hell, just a bit more than half of what a studio runs around here, although they're uncommon. Property taxes aren't that bad either, although homeowners insurance rates suck.

    FC: 1993-7778-8872 PSN: TehSloth Xbox: SlothTeh
    twitch.tv/tehsloth
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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    jeep, serious question, what's your definition of art, and why don't these things fit in it?

    If you don't have one, or if they do fit in the one you have, you're talking bullshit. If you do and they do then fine!

    Im not yet sure how to define art, but that doesn't mean I have to accept the definition you favor.

    But I am positive that a violent act against another person will never meet my personal definition!

    And you can continue to call me wrong and full of shit with your usual arrogance.

    Its never persuasive.

    I'm not trying to get you to accept my definition. I already did say that there's no arguments to be made for or against definitions, really.

    It's just that well, you're not working with a definition at all. Do that or shut up.

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    BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    Anyone know how geth picks the chatmaker?

    Posted in previous [chat] + online now / random chance

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    TTODewbackTTODewback Puts the drawl in ya'll I think I'm in HellRegistered User regular
    Making fun of poets is the best.
    Because the best poets are the ones who are filled with rage and/or clinically depressed.
    So basically you're helping them excel at their craft.

    Bless your heart.
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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    If anything can be labeled art the word kinda has no meaning.

    IMO.

    My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    I hope i'll be picked at some point...

    Making a [chat] would be a great honor.

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