Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.
That's definitely performance art
And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.
If she presented it as such, yes.
You can present any terrible situation you want, but as long as it was presented as art it is art.
And doing this doesn't substantiate your claims in the least.
This feels like excusing generally psychopathic behavior and lending it a veneer of credibility.
Well, it certainly could just be someone having a psychotic break. But it's a rather pointless line of inquiry since she didn't actually do this.
There is a long history of artists being severely mentally ill, too. See: Van Gogh, more relevantly, Antonin Artaud (look up the theatre if cruelty)
The point is, Jeep is not having an honest conversation. He has been pressed to define art. He has opted instead to use personal attacks and (failed attempts) at negation instead.
I'm not commenting on mental state, I'm commenting on behavior.
Look, basically let's go with "attacking a bunch of EMTs". If someone wants to claim it's performance art, good for them - I think they should be jailed for intentionally wasting emergency resources. Basically, if you do it knowingly, we should fuck you harder with the legal system because you had the presence of mind to decide to do it.
FYI my opinions about fake suicide girl and art etc are real even if they don't meet chat hivemind standards.
As for the personal attack, it was a joke.
I put up with way more personal attacks all the time in this thread. You fuckers need to step back and look in the mirror you are not always nice people and your own jokes get rough as hell.
Now I have to go hablo espanol be good to one another.
Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.
That's definitely performance art
And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.
If she presented it as such, yes.
You can present any terrible situation you want, but as long as it was presented as art it is art.
And doing this doesn't substantiate your claims in the least.
This feels like excusing generally psychopathic behavior and lending it a veneer of credibility.
Well, it certainly could just be someone having a psychotic break. But it's a rather pointless line of inquiry since she didn't actually do this.
There is a long history of artists being severely mentally ill, too. See: Van Gogh, more relevantly, Antonin Artaud (look up the theatre if cruelty)
The point is, Jeep is not having an honest conversation. He has been pressed to define art. He has opted instead to use personal attacks and (failed attempts) at negation instead.
I'm not commenting on mental state, I'm commenting on behavior.
Look, basically let's go with "attacking a bunch of EMTs". If someone wants to claim it's performance art, good for them - I think they should be jailed for intentionally wasting emergency resources. Basically, if you do it knowingly, we should fuck you harder with the legal system because you had the presence of mind to decide to do it.
Sure. I'm not arguing that this person should be safe from prosecution because art.
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AManFromEarthLet's get to twerk!The King in the SwampRegistered Userregular
But to put it in context, this brother of mine most definitely needs help
But my sister's skills are
Britta level.
Well she's only been at it for a couple years, right?
"Her skills are Britta level" is one of the most damnable insults you could give someone. Use that expression carefully.
From everything you've told me, your brother sounds like a child with Oppositional Defiant Disorder, especially when you tell him to hold on a cake and he just won't do it for some inexplicable reason. Does your sister have any ideas of what it might be?
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I embraced my inner monkey over breakfast.
Just demolished a bunch of oranges with my bare hands.
FYI my opinions about fake suicide girl and art etc are real even if they don't meet chat hivemind standards.
As for the personal attack, it was a joke.
I put up with way more personal attacks all the time in this thread. You fuckers need to step back and look in the mirror you are not always nice people and your own jokes get rough as hell.
Now I have to go hablo espanol be good to one another.
I want to kiss you on the goddamn mouth.
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My cat is a Britta-level cat.
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FYI my opinions about fake suicide girl and art etc are real even if they don't meet chat hivemind standards.
As for the personal attack, it was a joke.
I put up with way more personal attacks all the time in this thread. You fuckers need to step back and look in the mirror you are not always nice people and your own jokes get rough as hell.
Now I have to go hablo espanol be good to one another.
People give you shit because you're fucking mad all the time and you argue with people over dumb shit.
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HonkHonk is this poster.Registered User, __BANNED USERSregular
If anything can be labeled art the word kinda has no meaning.
IMO.
Someone still has to choose to draw your attention to it.
I guess sometimes I feel like the opposing argument boils down to "Listen, there are only so many things I can critically think about, and if you run around calling a bunch of dumb, seemingly irrelevant, shit 'art' I'm not going to take you seriously" which is fine! But if it encourages people to think more closely about things which seem mundane and examine assumptions etc. etc. then what's the harm? I certainly don't mind, every now and again, taking off on a flight of fancy and examining contentious pieces of 'art'
edit: nobody is taking away your right to roll your eyes and be dismissive, either.
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SarksusATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered Userregular
Amy Sedaris used to show up to modeling shoots with her makeup done to look like she was the victim of domestic abuse.
That's definitely performance art
And if she had just lit a hobo on fire instead, still art.
If she presented it as such, yes.
You can present any terrible situation you want, but as long as it was presented as art it is art.
And doing this doesn't substantiate your claims in the least.
This feels like excusing generally psychopathic behavior and lending it a veneer of credibility.
Well, it certainly could just be someone having a psychotic break. But it's a rather pointless line of inquiry since she didn't actually do this.
There is a long history of artists being severely mentally ill, too. See: Van Gogh, more relevantly, Antonin Artaud (look up the theatre if cruelty)
The point is, Jeep is not having an honest conversation. He has been pressed to define art. He has opted instead to use personal attacks and (failed attempts) at negation instead.
I'm not commenting on mental state, I'm commenting on behavior.
Look, basically let's go with "attacking a bunch of EMTs". If someone wants to claim it's performance art, good for them - I think they should be jailed for intentionally wasting emergency resources. Basically, if you do it knowingly, we should fuck you harder with the legal system because you had the presence of mind to decide to do it.
I'm pretty sure they will be.
I mean, one thing is prank calling 911
but this... is quite a step above that.
so yeah not is it just done... you know, the legalese for knowingly, but it's also... uh, the english legalese for "worse".
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HonkHonk is this poster.Registered User, __BANNED USERSregular
It was a retarded thing don't get me wrong, but I cannot provide evidence to this group of people that it was not art. Because there is no objective way to define art.
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The FTC going after it just proves its legitimacy
I'm not commenting on mental state, I'm commenting on behavior.
Look, basically let's go with "attacking a bunch of EMTs". If someone wants to claim it's performance art, good for them - I think they should be jailed for intentionally wasting emergency resources. Basically, if you do it knowingly, we should fuck you harder with the legal system because you had the presence of mind to decide to do it.
Question: in your world, what qualities does labeling something art give it?
In mine, nothing. It just lets me know to flick a switch in my brain that turns on certain critical faculties.
Yeah. I agree.
As for the personal attack, it was a joke.
I put up with way more personal attacks all the time in this thread. You fuckers need to step back and look in the mirror you are not always nice people and your own jokes get rough as hell.
Now I have to go hablo espanol be good to one another.
Sure. I'm not arguing that this person should be safe from prosecution because art.
Sometimes Wiki does this.
A rock some douchebag hit with a thing ==> Art?
Art Fart, in my book, there's no such thing as art, just varying degrees of timewasting.
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Just because anything can be labeled as art doesn't mean everything is art.
Well she's only been at it for a couple years, right?
"Her skills are Britta level" is one of the most damnable insults you could give someone. Use that expression carefully.
From everything you've told me, your brother sounds like a child with Oppositional Defiant Disorder, especially when you tell him to hold on a cake and he just won't do it for some inexplicable reason. Does your sister have any ideas of what it might be?
Just demolished a bunch of oranges with my bare hands.
geth doesnt have that functionality hth
Not mutually exclusive. Something can be criminal and art. See: graffiti
Campbell's soup labels are art.
Progressive soup labels are not.
This is my sole judgement on art.
Is your art comparable to a Campbells label or a Progressive label?
It will soon enough...
I want to kiss you on the goddamn mouth.
Aw dang, dude
Art would be pretty damn near 'linear event' in descriptive terms I'd use to describe it.
People give you shit because you're fucking mad all the time and you argue with people over dumb shit.
It's not mutually exclusive.
If we go by the record we factually know this.
Because her episode was accepted as art by the institution, she got some form of passing grade for it. She was also fined for a crime.
I WILL WAIT FOR YOUR APPLAUSE
TYVM
Someone still has to choose to draw your attention to it.
I guess sometimes I feel like the opposing argument boils down to "Listen, there are only so many things I can critically think about, and if you run around calling a bunch of dumb, seemingly irrelevant, shit 'art' I'm not going to take you seriously" which is fine! But if it encourages people to think more closely about things which seem mundane and examine assumptions etc. etc. then what's the harm? I certainly don't mind, every now and again, taking off on a flight of fancy and examining contentious pieces of 'art'
edit: nobody is taking away your right to roll your eyes and be dismissive, either.
no but they are God
I'm pretty sure they will be.
I mean, one thing is prank calling 911
but this... is quite a step above that.
so yeah not is it just done... you know, the legalese for knowingly, but it's also... uh, the english legalese for "worse".
I use a lot of found text in my work. The first poem I ever published consisted of exactly 0 "original" lines.
In this sense, Pop Art has influenced my work, I guess.
Hate That Hand.
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Usually graffiti doesn't involve unwilling people being harmed!
They are once you slather them in seasoned ground "beef" and shredded cheese.
twitch.tv/tehsloth
hope this helps
If God is everything, he must be art.
what to do today
That is smug as hell!