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[PATV] Monday, February 18, 2013 - CheckPoint Season 2, Ep. 36: Litigation is Magic

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  • wanderingbishopwanderingbishop Registered User regular
    In response to the "Hasbro wouldn't license this" argument, may I present the cover for issue #3 of the official, Hasbro-endorsed My Little Pony comic book series.

    http://i.imgur.com/KrxBIl6.jpg

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Bremen wrote: »
    Framling wrote: »
    Well sure, I guess Hasbro could have said "Go ahead and make a fighting game based on our line of toys for young children."

    Just as, I suppose, Original Appalachian Artworks, Inc. could allow Eli Roth to make a torture porn movie based on the Cabbage Patch Kids.

    I just don't see why anyone would be at all surprised when they didn't.

    This isn't a Mortal Kombat clone being talked about; it isn't any more violent than the show itself. What's more, Hasbro themselves periodically release flash games on their website, and the MLP ones often involve fighting.

    Had this idea where the game could be about Shining Armor running the girls through a self-defense course after the whole Chrysalis incident at the wedding. While it's best not to get into a fight at all, if you're going to be going on adventures where it might come up, better know how to do it correctly so you don't hurt yourself or others. The "fights" themselves are little sparing matches run by a ritual spell normally used by the Royal Guards for training that prevent any actual damage from being inflicted, and any hits remove points from the giant HP bars projected over their heads by it.

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  • BremenBremen Registered User regular
    An interesting idea, but probably more relevant in the discussion thread for the show.

  • sexy Enrico Fermi sexy Enrico Fermi Registered User new member
    Hasbro is a very specific type of company... one that owns things,
    board games, transformers, HE-MAN, and Wizards of the Coast and with it, yes,
    both Magic the Gathering AND Dungeons and Dragons
    like a miser they own things simply to own them and the act of creation is so vile, so backwards to them that no logic or reason can sway their eldritch glare.

    it is (hilariously) apropos that they also own MONOPOLY.

  • DJ_BunceDJ_Bunce Registered User regular
    If ANYONE can find a copy of this video and link us to it, you can have an internet hi5... Everyone is talking about the video, but nobody is posting it...

  • marsiliesmarsilies Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    @ran88dom99 and @DJ_Bunce I'm pretty sure the only people who have a copy of the "sex tape" is Atlus, and maybe Walmart, and neither are likely to release it to the public, if for nothing else than copyright concerns. The only reason why we know it exists is because people at Atlus revealed its existence in an interview:
    http://kotaku.com/5982232/demons-high-schools-and-sex-just-another-day-at-atlus-games

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  • felt tipfelt tip Registered User regular
    Hasbro is a very specific type of company... one that owns things,
    board games, transformers, HE-MAN, and Wizards of the Coast and with it, yes,
    both Magic the Gathering AND Dungeons and Dragons
    like a miser they own things simply to own them and the act of creation is so vile, so backwards to them that no logic or reason can sway their eldritch glare.

    it is (hilariously) apropos that they also own MONOPOLY.
    Neither logic, nor reason. Just money.

    Destroy capitalism.

  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    Hasbro aren't saying that he can't create something. They're saying that he can't use their stuff to do it. If anything they're telling him to be more creative.

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  • Titanium DragonTitanium Dragon Registered User regular
    Well that's just how the emphasis fell when I was talking. We don't think that.
    I didn't say "children" because the show is only marketed to girls. True, the girls part isn't relevant at all to fighting games, but it is relevant to the joke's delivery (comparing the two fanbases of 20-something males and 7-years-old girls).


    Well one of their hopes with the new MLP was that they would hit the male demographic a bit more. They succeeded; its just that they were about 20 years off.

    Apparently they have really bad aim.

    Incidentally, it always baffles me why groups of talented people spend so much effort making things like this; why not make your own IP and use that instead of taking from another company that likely will shut you down when they notice you?

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  • BremenBremen Registered User regular
    Incidentally, it always baffles me why groups of talented people spend so much effort making things like this; why not make your own IP and use that instead of taking from another company that likely will shut you down when they notice you?

    Why make fanart of a series you like instead of just drawing your own characters? I don't think there's much difference, except in scale.

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  • Bewildered_RoninBewildered_Ronin Registered User regular
    @marsilies, actually they could very easily claim fair-use.

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Property of Amara_P Registered User regular
    edited February 2013
    ironzerg wrote: »
    The quality of the game is not the issue. For all intensive purposes, it could've been the 2nd coming of Jesus H. Streetfighter, a glorious incarnation to be heralded as the greatest fighting game ever, the game to end all games.

    The point is that they stole another parties IP to generate interest in their game.

    The question is, would anyone give two poops about this game if it was not MLP? The answer is "no". They are using the MLP IP to promote their own work, to an audience that's not the target of the original IP. And what happens when they let this one slide? It's only a short jump from a MLP brony fighting game to a full on My Little Beastiality: Touching Wangs is Magic pony sex simulation and then what does Hasbro do when it's IP is attached to that?

    Hyperbole? This is the Internet. Such doesn't exist.

    You say that like the creators were only interested in a fighting game, and only cared about using the MLP image as a convenient label.

    Considering the vast pool of creative work produced by fans of the show, a fighting game specifically designed to be a MLP-themed is no stretch by any means.

    Or has the creator confirmed that to be the case?

    Also, while there are some fans out there who take their interest in MLP to a creepy direction, I don't see how a fighting game has any real risk of leading to a sex game. That just sounds like a thrown together slippery slope argument.

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  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    @marsilies, actually they could very easily claim fair-use.

    ...an a court of law. They have to get sued first.

    Lauren Faust (The original created of 4th gen MLP) has offered her own original character designs to the Fighting is Magic project anyway, so the arguments kind of a moot point.

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  • Viktor WaltersViktor Walters fair enough Registered User regular
    GrahamS wrote: »
    Well that's just how the emphasis fell when I was talking. We don't think that.

    Excellent. I was just trying to confirm that. Sorry to be a contrary internet silly goose about it. I look forward to the next episode.

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  • sexy Enrico Fermi sexy Enrico Fermi Registered User new member
    "Hasbro aren't saying that he can't create something. They're saying that he can't use their stuff to do it. If anything they're telling him to be more creative. "
    creativity is a long series of ripoffs, stealing and liberal interpretations stretching back to Homer and the Iliad who ripped it off from other songs and stories. Any truly original work will fail was it simultaneously contains none of the familiar elements we expect and is overwrought or cliched (for when you reinvent the wheel it has a nasty habit of coming out decidedly oblong) and will inevitably be passed over.

    also currently copyright laws for corporations expire 125 YEARS after the company has given up renewing them for people it still takes 70 years for a work to enter the public domain.

    in a spark of genius the team may use real horses and photos as sprites to avoid being sued into the ground
    only to draw the ire of PeTA who will... sue them into the ground

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