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Screw the cafeteria, I'm QUILTBAGgin' it today

MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
edited February 2013 in Social Entropy++
QUILTBAG

Queer
Unsure
Intersex
Lesbian
Transgendered
Bisexual
Asexual
Gay

...and friends. Because let's face it, there's not enough letters there. Heck, there probably never will be.

So I figure that the trans thread went off pretty great, so hey why not make something more inclusive. Guys who have sex on guys, Girls who have sex on girls, and everything in between.

Now, the last thread wasn't perfect, so lets strive to make this one a little better:

RULE 1:
Don't generalize. Seriously, there's as many different types of people as there are people. Don't speak for those people. If you start a sentence with "most people" or "gay men like" you're generalizing. Don't do that.

This thread will evolve as it goes on, so keep an eye on this post.

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  • PersonfacePersonface HAIL GAY SATANRegistered User regular
  • GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    You're da bes @Metalbourne.

  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    Personface wrote: »
    I thoroughly appreciate the presence of this thread
    Gatsby wrote: »
    You're da bes @Metalbourne.

    Thanks for the support, guys!

    But the thread isn't just about me. If all goes well a lot of different people with different experiences will chime in.

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Any QUILTBAGgin' Christians in the house?

    I was at an event a couple of weeks ago, and there was a pretty sizable contingent of openly gay Christian men there. I was desperately curious to ask them about their experiences, but it seemed a bit of a heavy topic to get into with strangers at a party.

    What's it like being a member of a faith where a not-insignificant portion of fellow believers think you fail to live up to the tenets of said faith? Are there people that you feel don't live up to the tenets of the faith? If so, how do you interact with them? Did you come out to the members of your church? How did they take it? Did you need to switch churches? If so, how difficult was it?

    Lotta questions! And there might not even be anybody 'round here who has experienced it, but hey, it's worth a shot.

  • PersonfacePersonface HAIL GAY SATANRegistered User regular
    I tell you what's great
    My Mother bought me some lady tights (albeit with a skinless leg pattern) on them for my birthday at my request and they feel terrific

  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    Any QUILTBAGgin' Christians in the house?

    I was at an event a couple of weeks ago, and there was a pretty sizable contingent of openly gay Christian men there. I was desperately curious to ask them about their experiences, but it seemed a bit of a heavy topic to get into with strangers at a party.

    What's it like being a member of a faith where a not-insignificant portion of fellow believers think you fail to live up to the tenets of said faith? Are there people that you feel don't live up to the tenets of the faith? If so, how do you interact with them? Did you come out to the members of your church? How did they take it? Did you need to switch churches? If so, how difficult was it?

    Lotta questions! And there might not even be anybody 'round here who has experienced it, but hey, it's worth a shot.

    Sort of

    Once upon a time I was a Christian. I had been to churches that were really open minded and one that was super judgemental, so YMMV on a church by church basis.

  • GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    I know at the church HyperBallad's grandmother goes to, there's a young translady there who is a loved member of the congregation and isn't judged for being open about it, which made us smile.

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Any QUILTBAGgin' Christians in the house?

    I was at an event a couple of weeks ago, and there was a pretty sizable contingent of openly gay Christian men there. I was desperately curious to ask them about their experiences, but it seemed a bit of a heavy topic to get into with strangers at a party.

    What's it like being a member of a faith where a not-insignificant portion of fellow believers think you fail to live up to the tenets of said faith? Are there people that you feel don't live up to the tenets of the faith? If so, how do you interact with them? Did you come out to the members of your church? How did they take it? Did you need to switch churches? If so, how difficult was it?

    Lotta questions! And there might not even be anybody 'round here who has experienced it, but hey, it's worth a shot.

    Sort of

    Once upon a time I was a Christian. I had been to churches that were really open minded and one that was super judgemental, so YMMV on a church by church basis.

    Oh, I know a lotta folks who left the church/faith entirely, but I'm more curious about the people who stayed.

    Mainly because I'm sorta fascinated by anybody who ain't a cis, straight male staying Christian for any length of time. So much of it seems so unwelcoming/demeaning to people that don't fit that description, and I find myself intensely curious about the people who make peace with that cognitive dissonance.

    Then again, I wasn't raised in any faith, never had one, likely never will. So I don't understand a lot about how it works for people. So I try to ask a lot of questions about it, and try to see things from other folks' perspectives, even though those perspectives ain't really my speed.

  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    I do not believe I have heard of intersex before.

  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    I do not believe I have heard of intersex before.

    http://www.isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex

  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    I do not believe I have heard of intersex before.

    It's when you masturbate to each other on Skype.

  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    Any QUILTBAGgin' Christians in the house?

    I was at an event a couple of weeks ago, and there was a pretty sizable contingent of openly gay Christian men there. I was desperately curious to ask them about their experiences, but it seemed a bit of a heavy topic to get into with strangers at a party.

    What's it like being a member of a faith where a not-insignificant portion of fellow believers think you fail to live up to the tenets of said faith? Are there people that you feel don't live up to the tenets of the faith? If so, how do you interact with them? Did you come out to the members of your church? How did they take it? Did you need to switch churches? If so, how difficult was it?

    Lotta questions! And there might not even be anybody 'round here who has experienced it, but hey, it's worth a shot.

    I'm kinda Christian, in the sense that I believe a God could exist and I pray

  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2013
    Hey, one thing I meant to ask in the other thread that I didn't get around to, and I apologize in advance if I am being ignorant or whatever about this.

    I've had a translady ring up some clothing sales for me at a Macy's a couple of times when I've been there. Is there a generally accepted way to kind of show support for people that you meet like that? Or is it best to just be nice and not directly draw attention to her identity. I kinda lean toward the latter, because I would think that anything else would be more like "HEY LOOK AT ME AND HOW ACCEPTING I AM OF YOU, AREN'T I SO GREAT?"

    EDIT: Additionally, I lean toward not specifically saying anything about it also because it seems like not a good idea to assume that she is a transperson.

    The Geek on
    BLM - ACAB
  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    treat her happily and like every other person you help.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    "Wow those items are nice, I bet they'll look great on you Ma'am! Have a nice day!"

  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2013
    I meant she was behind the counter, but I suppose that's irrelevant.

    The Geek on
    BLM - ACAB
  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    rachel's answer still applies!

  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Okie dokie then.

    BLM - ACAB
  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    The Geek wrote: »
    I meant she was behind the counter, but I suppose that's irrelevant.

    Reading comprehension fail, sorry!

  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    QUILTBAG: the best acronym ever

  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    The Geek wrote: »
    Hey, one thing I meant to ask in the other thread that I didn't get around to, and I apologize in advance if I am being ignorant or whatever about this.

    I've had a translady ring up some clothing sales for me at a Macy's a couple of times when I've been there. Is there a generally accepted way to kind of show support for people that you meet like that? Or is it best to just be nice and not directly draw attention to her identity. I kinda lean toward the latter, because I would think that anything else would be more like "HEY LOOK AT ME AND HOW ACCEPTING I AM OF YOU, AREN'T I SO GREAT?"

    EDIT: Additionally, I lean toward not specifically saying anything about it also because it seems like not a good idea to assume that she is a transperson.

    Yeah, just assuming someone is trans is a little judgemental and can lead to some embarrassing situations for you both.

    So what kind of treatment do I like to receive? Being treated like I'm normal, first off. Not being patronized or used As a tool in someone's quest to show the world how accepting they are, second. I want to be talked to like a normal person, is probably the most obvious thing.

  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    my body is ready (for this thread)

    Hey, @Metalbourne

    I know we're not supposed to generalize
    but is it okay to say I find female-bodied people hot

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Personface wrote: »
    I thoroughly appreciate the presence of this thread

    Well I DON'T

    I am THOROUGHLY disappointed that this is not a quilting thread.

  • ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    but is it okay to say I find female-bodied people hot

    why cna i only hit agree once

  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    my body is ready (for this thread)

    Hey, @Metalbourne

    I know we're not supposed to generalize
    but is it okay to say I find female-bodied people hot

    I hope so otherwise I dunno what I'm gonna talk about for the next 99 pages

  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    I too have a question that might be ignorant, but I'm curious about what folks think:

    There's a person who was born a man but would like to be identified as a female. This person is into weightlifting and is constantly going "ha, bet you didn't think a girl could do x" whenever she does something that she feels is significant (and she's pretty strong, so that's often). Is it wrong of me to think "yo you're working with a man's genetics, even if you self-identify as female, so maybe tone that back some?"

  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    my body is ready (for this thread)

    Hey, @Metalbourne

    I know we're not supposed to generalize
    but is it okay to say I find female-bodied people hot

    That's not a generalization, that's an opinion.

    Now if you said, "a lot of trans girls think female bodied people are hot"

    That would be a generalization.

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    I used to be nothing on this list
    then for a while I was one letter
    then I thought I was two letters
    now I think I'm just one, but different than the one I started with

    who dares solve my riddle

    0BnD8l3.gif
  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Peen wrote: »
    I too have a question that might be ignorant, but I'm curious about what folks think:

    There's a person who was born a man but would like to be identified as a female. This person is into weightlifting and is constantly going "ha, bet you didn't think a girl could do x" whenever she does something that she feels is significant (and she's pretty strong, so that's often). Is it wrong of me to think "yo you're working with a man's genetics, even if you self-identify as female, so maybe tone that back some?"

    if I get back into cross-country, I will be competing with women

    and this is exactly the sort of mentality I fear

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Peen wrote: »
    I too have a question that might be ignorant, but I'm curious about what folks think:

    There's a person who was born a man but would like to be identified as a female. This person is into weightlifting and is constantly going "ha, bet you didn't think a girl could do x" whenever she does something that she feels is significant (and she's pretty strong, so that's often). Is it wrong of me to think "yo you're working with a man's genetics, even if you self-identify as female, so maybe tone that back some?"

    Saying anything is impressive "for a girl" is tacky and dumb, regardless of genetics or gender identity

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    I used to be nothing on this list
    then for a while I was one letter
    then I thought I was two letters
    now I think I'm just one, but different than the one I started with

    who dares solve my riddle
    i have a sword, let's solomon this

    (hola dubh, howdy interro)

  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    I used to be nothing on this list
    then for a while I was one letter
    then I thought I was two letters
    now I think I'm just one, but different than the one I started with

    who dares solve my riddle

    Is it a gold ring in your pocket?

  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    Peen wrote: »
    I too have a question that might be ignorant, but I'm curious about what folks think:

    There's a person who was born a man but would like to be identified as a female. This person is into weightlifting and is constantly going "ha, bet you didn't think a girl could do x" whenever she does something that she feels is significant (and she's pretty strong, so that's often). Is it wrong of me to think "yo you're working with a man's genetics, even if you self-identify as female, so maybe tone that back some?"

    Excessive bragging isn't fun, no matter what gender or sex the braggart is. Don't let their condition stop you from telling them that it's starting to get irritating. And then find someone else to hang out with if they don't want to stop

  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    J for jellyfish

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    I'm still immensely hung up on my gender identity and it sucks. I'd been mostly comfortable with living the same as usual for the last few weeks but then over the weekend it came back in force.
    Like, if I had confidence that society weren't going to brutally beat my ambitions into the ground the first chance it could, I'd hit up an HRT specialist first chance I got. But the fact is, I'm not sure if I want to calculate that risk where I am in life. And the only place I'm very comfortable with venting has been here, so great timing for the thread @metalbourne <3

  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    Yesterday was supposed to be shot day, but I fell asleep before we got around to it.

    Gonna do it today.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    :x mortal

  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    Mortal Sky wrote: »
    I'm still immensely hung up on my gender identity and it sucks. I'd been mostly comfortable with living the same as usual for the last few weeks but then over the weekend it came back in force.
    Like, if I had confidence that society weren't going to brutally beat my ambitions into the ground the first chance it could, I'd hit up an HRT specialist first chance I got. But the fact is, I'm not sure if I want to calculate that risk where I am in life. And the only place I'm very comfortable with venting has been here, so great timing for the thread @metalbourne <3

    boooooo I hope you feel better soon : (

    I've mostly been doing okay although the lady who cut my hair recently interpreted "just clean it up a bit" as "shear it all off" so now my hair is distressingly short and unmistakably masculine

    it'll grow back out but ugh! UGHHHH

  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    that said, I did just finish my espresso and my cigarette and now I'm on my way to Sephora to spend unreasonable amounts of money on fragrances and skin care products so today's off to a good start

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    J for jellyfish

    c for catwoman

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