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The Bourne Ultimatum (new trailer, new website)

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I could see a 4th film, you could simply have someone seeking out bourne for revenge for a killing he did. Or someone he knows gets their shit messed up and Bourne decides to even the score.

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    MORPHEUSMORPHEUS Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    You're probably right. They might probably have that Russian CEO dude come back for revenge, which would lead the CIA to recreuit Bourne. But in the end, I say leave the movies the fuck alone. Dear god I hope the don't rape the series in the future.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Well of course I'd prefer they leave them alone. I enjoyed the third movie, but it did feel a bit more abrupt? I dunno less story delivered then the previous two. It was one chase after another, we didn't get a lot of the set ups like in Supremecy, or even the longer chase sequences from the first or second movie, the car chase was over as soon as it began, and the bike pursuit was interspersed with the on foot sections.

    So long story short, a fourth movie would be good if they did a one off and didn't try and tie it into the previous films, but retained the style.

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fallingman wrote: »
    MORPHEUS wrote: »

    Now this is a good rip off

    That was glorious. The end before the credits had me in stitches... I really didnt expect him to do that.

    At first I thought it was a generic paradoy..but the middle part is when it gets really funny.

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    GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fallingman wrote: »
    MORPHEUS wrote: »
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Harry Potter is an exception to the rule. JKR had a long story to tell and it couldn't have fit into 3 books (unless they were much much larger). I like that she actually stuck to the 7 books rather than trying to extend the series out.

    I didn't bother going to the pirates because I heard it was both bad, and they were going for another movie.

    That aside, I think the Bourne series could have been neatly wrapped up in 3 movies. Instead of starting where they left off in the second movie (in NYC) they added on 66% more story beforehand to make a 30 minute sequence into a third movie. I know the movie industry is a business, that's fine, but I just feel like they keep writing these series' out longer and longer (after they realize there is dough to be made) specifically to make money, rather than tell a good story.

    Well sir, be satisfied that you have an enjoyable movie. I promise you will not see another movie like the Bourne Trilogy in a long time. Hell, in a few months you'll probably get bad ripoffs of it.

    Shooter.

    They're ripping off the Bourne Ultimatum before it's even made, oh noeeeesssss

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    AdrienAdrien Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fallingman wrote: »
    MORPHEUS wrote: »
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Harry Potter is an exception to the rule. JKR had a long story to tell and it couldn't have fit into 3 books (unless they were much much larger). I like that she actually stuck to the 7 books rather than trying to extend the series out.

    I didn't bother going to the pirates because I heard it was both bad, and they were going for another movie.

    That aside, I think the Bourne series could have been neatly wrapped up in 3 movies. Instead of starting where they left off in the second movie (in NYC) they added on 66% more story beforehand to make a 30 minute sequence into a third movie. I know the movie industry is a business, that's fine, but I just feel like they keep writing these series' out longer and longer (after they realize there is dough to be made) specifically to make money, rather than tell a good story.

    Well sir, be satisfied that you have an enjoyable movie. I promise you will not see another movie like the Bourne Trilogy in a long time. Hell, in a few months you'll probably get bad ripoffs of it.

    Shooter.

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fallingman wrote: »
    Shooter.
    Ok you need to clarify that. Did you mean that Shooter is a rip off of it or "another movie like Bourne"?

    Cause if it's the latter you simply won't be allowed to post, ever again. I'm sorry but some sins are too great for forgiveness.

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    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fallingman wrote: »
    Shooter.
    Ok you need to clarify that. Did you mean that Shooter is a rip off of it or "another movie like Bourne"?

    Cause if it's the latter you simply won't be allowed to post, ever again. I'm sorry but some sins are too great for forgiveness.

    Former, you mean?

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    GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Wait, there are people that actually think Shooter was a good movie?

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    jothki wrote: »
    Former, you mean?
    Right, no more posting from you!

    Any comparison between the quality of Bourne and Shooter had better involve astronomical measures.

    Shooter is high on my list of worst movies I've ever seen. Not in an endearing way either.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I thought Shooter was made because Matt Damon thought he was making too much money for one more movie, but not really enough for two. So he just went "yeah, whatever"

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    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Wait, there are people that actually think Shooter was a good movie?

    I dunno, I've never even heard of it.

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I thought Shooter was made because Matt Damon thought he was making too much money for one more movie, but not really enough for two. So he just went "yeah, whatever"
    Er... huh?

    Shooter stars Marky-Mark, not Damon.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I thought Shooter was made because Matt Damon thought he was making too much money for one more movie, but not really enough for two. So he just went "yeah, whatever"
    Er... huh?

    Shooter stars Marky-Mark, not Damon.
    Oh.... Oops. Well, then, Shooter was Mark Whalberg pretending to be Matt Damon.

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    Demon LemonDemon Lemon Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I thought Shooter was made because Matt Damon thought he was making too much money for one more movie, but not really enough for two. So he just went "yeah, whatever"
    Er... huh?

    Shooter stars Marky-Mark, not Damon.
    Oh.... Oops. Well, then, Shooter was Mark Whalberg pretending to be Matt Damon.

    Lol, I always thought he played the same character in all his movies.
    King's Men
    Shooter
    Italian Job.
    All pretty much the same.:|

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    The Big Hit earns him much love from me....but we're moving pretty far off topic now.

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    AdrienAdrien Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Wait, there are people that actually think Shooter was a good movie?

    There are people that don't?

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    GafotoGafoto Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Adrien wrote: »
    Gafoto wrote: »
    Wait, there are people that actually think Shooter was a good movie?

    There are people that don't?

    I thought Devout was about to start professing his love for Shooter. Woops.

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    ShurakaiShurakai Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Awesome movie.

    I just hope the next Bond movie has the balls to top it.

    The new bond is perfect for the kind of over-the-top-but-plausible action, fighting scenes and chase scenes the bourne movies are so wonderful at.

    Casino Royal was entirely too calm for 70% of the film, given the protagonist.

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    DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited August 2007
    I want them to try a 4th movie. If it sucks I can just disown and keep the trilogy. But this isn't Battlestar Galactica. It isn't all over when you find Earth (BlackBriar). Jason Bourne needs to replace bond. I needs me some Bourne to walk into another secure zone and just level 15-20 people in a 5 to 10 minute action scene. I needs me that.

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    dvshermandvsherman Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I could see a fourth movie if they did "Bourne: Punisher." All motivation for anyone coming after him has pretty much been removed. However, he'd make a good vigilante. Specifically, I could see him shutting down corrupt government black ops organizations. *shrug*

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    TiemlerTiemler Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    dvsherman wrote: »
    I could see a fourth movie if they did "Bourne: Punisher." All motivation for anyone coming after him has pretty much been removed. However, he'd make a good vigilante. Specifically, I could see him shutting down corrupt government black ops organizations. *shrug*

    It'd be a hard sell, especially since it'd hit theaters long after Bush-Cheney have left office.

    A more likely "free agent" scenario would be Bourne finding out Marie had a sister who is a journalist, who is incarcerated by some foreign government whose corrupt dictator has been hiring former CIA spooks and western private military companies to keep order. He sets off to rescue her. The Bourne Redemption or something like that.

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    randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Tiemler wrote: »
    dvsherman wrote: »
    I could see a fourth movie if they did "Bourne: Punisher." All motivation for anyone coming after him has pretty much been removed. However, he'd make a good vigilante. Specifically, I could see him shutting down corrupt government black ops organizations. *shrug*

    It'd be a hard sell, especially since it'd hit theaters long after Bush-Cheney have left office.

    A more likely "free agent" scenario would be Bourne finding out Marie had a sister who is a journalist, who is incarcerated by some foreign government whose corrupt dictator has been hiring former CIA spooks and western private military companies to keep order. He sets off to rescue her. The Bourne Redemption or something like that.

    More like The Bourne Betrayal

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    SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Tiemler wrote: »
    dvsherman wrote: »
    I could see a fourth movie if they did "Bourne: Punisher." All motivation for anyone coming after him has pretty much been removed. However, he'd make a good vigilante. Specifically, I could see him shutting down corrupt government black ops organizations. *shrug*

    It'd be a hard sell, especially since it'd hit theaters long after Bush-Cheney have left office.

    A more likely "free agent" scenario would be Bourne finding out Marie had a sister who is a journalist, who is incarcerated by some foreign government whose corrupt dictator has been hiring former CIA spooks and western private military companies to keep order. He sets off to rescue her. The Bourne Redemption or something like that.

    More like The Bourne Betrayal

    So we've given up on The Bourne Canoodling then?

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    FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Ok, so I haven't seen the new movie [and I'm assuming that this hasn't been done there yet]. But if they were going to do another one, couldn't they go back to the source material? Maybe have some new branch of the Government approach him to try and take down "The Jackal"?

    That could be cool. Put him up against someone just as ruthless.

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    Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fallingman wrote: »
    Ok, so I haven't seen the new movie [and I'm assuming that this hasn't been done there yet]. But if they were going to do another one, couldn't they go back to the source material? Maybe have some new branch of the Government approach him to try and take down "The Jackal"?

    That could be cool. Put him up against someone just as ruthless.

    So the guys that fucked up his head for fun and profit, along with a bunch of other semi-willing hardcases who were then sent after him, weren't at least as ruthless as him? He got out by being better, not more ruthless. In fact, if he were truly as ruthless as he was intended to be, he wouldn't have bothered talking to any of them/giving them a way to get out of getting their collective butts whooped before he killed them.

    Also, I'm not sure the Jackal is as good as Bourne anyway; two movies, two failures resulting in highly probable death...

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    Double DeuceDouble Deuce Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Sceptre wrote: »
    Tiemler wrote: »
    dvsherman wrote: »
    I could see a fourth movie if they did "Bourne: Punisher." All motivation for anyone coming after him has pretty much been removed. However, he'd make a good vigilante. Specifically, I could see him shutting down corrupt government black ops organizations. *shrug*

    It'd be a hard sell, especially since it'd hit theaters long after Bush-Cheney have left office.

    A more likely "free agent" scenario would be Bourne finding out Marie had a sister who is a journalist, who is incarcerated by some foreign government whose corrupt dictator has been hiring former CIA spooks and western private military companies to keep order. He sets off to rescue her. The Bourne Redemption or something like that.

    More like The Bourne Betrayal

    So we've given up on The Bourne Canoodling then?

    I will never give up.

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    Double DeuceDouble Deuce Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fallingman wrote: »
    "The Jackal"?

    Bruce Willis?

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    geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
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    Double DeuceDouble Deuce Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    geckahn wrote: »

    Ahh, it all makes sense now. Thanks.

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    LachLach Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Bourne Ultimatum’s Anti-Americanism

    From another blog quoting O'Reilly
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    The CIA guys are bad, bad, bad. And just to make sure Indonesian and Pakistani audiences get the picture, the CIA chief issues his evil orders with the American flag clearly seen on his desk. No language barrier here, no sir. The U.S. intelligence agencies are fiendish enterprises, which want to hurt Matt Damon and actually force Julia Stiles to cut her own hair. How could they?

    Those two links should egt you started, but the idea is that this movie is anti-america because it depicts the CIA as "evil", etc.

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    OTB wrote:
    I haven’t seen this movie yet but plan to do so.


    edit: OK I went to the link he posted. He says one of the technical problems with the movie was Damon's presence as Bourne. In this movie he didn't fight the hoards of nameless policemen like in the first two. He fought those 'assets' and had to fight hard. That's not really a technical complaint. But, some of the commenters of that site did talk about the plethora of jump cuts, 10 times in one scene is 9 times too fucking many.

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    FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Lach wrote: »
    Bourne Ultimatum’s Anti-Americanism

    From another blog quoting O'Reilly
    :
    The CIA guys are bad, bad, bad. And just to make sure Indonesian and Pakistani audiences get the picture, the CIA chief issues his evil orders with the American flag clearly seen on his desk. No language barrier here, no sir. The U.S. intelligence agencies are fiendish enterprises, which want to hurt Matt Damon and actually force Julia Stiles to cut her own hair. How could they?

    Those two links should egt you started, but the idea is that this movie is anti-america because it depicts the CIA as "evil", etc.

    For fucks sake.

    So, movies cant have americans as "baddies" because it's propaganda? Thats definitely on my list of dumbest things ever said.

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    Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I was very pleased with the movie. My favorite part:
    At the end - We see bourne's body floating in the river. The newcaster: "No body was found." Nicki smiles faintly, bourne begins to swim, and that awesome remix of extreme ways begins to play.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Fallingman wrote: »
    Lach wrote: »
    Bourne Ultimatum’s Anti-Americanism

    From another blog quoting O'Reilly
    :
    The CIA guys are bad, bad, bad. And just to make sure Indonesian and Pakistani audiences get the picture, the CIA chief issues his evil orders with the American flag clearly seen on his desk. No language barrier here, no sir. The U.S. intelligence agencies are fiendish enterprises, which want to hurt Matt Damon and actually force Julia Stiles to cut her own hair. How could they?

    Those two links should egt you started, but the idea is that this movie is anti-america because it depicts the CIA as "evil", etc.

    For fucks sake.

    So, movies cant have americans as "baddies" because it's propaganda? Thats definitely on my list of dumbest things ever said.

    Well not to come at it from a different direction, but 24 has been getting shit for whoever they use as terrorists (middle eastern whatever). So it's not just americans can't be used as bad guys, no one can.

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    AcidSerraAcidSerra Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Well thats fucking stupid. The CIA were the bad guys in both 1 and 2. Hell this one was much nicer simply because Landy finally stopped trying to catch him. (You know that thing that could have only ended in his death, which she damn well knew.)

    All in all, it was a statement against corruption and doing things without the appropriate oversight... Which is what the first two were about too, only now they placed it squarely at the feet of the CIA. The only way it could be "unamerican" is if it paralleled reality a bit too much... oh wait, it does.

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    precisionkprecisionk Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I was very pleased with the movie. My favorite part:
    At the end - We see bourne's body floating in the river. The newcaster: "No body was found." Nicki smiles faintly, bourne begins to swim, and that awesome remix of extreme ways begins to play.

    The remix was not nearly as good as the original.

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    mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I saw this the other night, and I must have completely missed why Nicky showed up at that Daniel's place while Bourne was there.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Because she worked there.

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    mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Preacher wrote: »
    Because she worked there.

    Oh, that was their office? I thought it was his apartment or something.

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