being guilty of breaking the law =/= moral failure
Wolverine visited Cyclops in prison and said that while Scott wasn't guilty of murder, he was guilty of letting things get too far along down the wrong road. Scott's policies invited trouble and that was his moral failing.
Unlike Wolverine, who is of course the height of moral success
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What kills me about the Cyclops debate is how many super heroes have either been former villains, former criminals, or at one point been possessed by a villain/cosmic power/whatever and either directly killed or caused the death of one or more people because of this? So damn many and yet they all were forgiven pretty darn quick, if even considered guilty in the first place. Scott kills one guy who is attacking him as the Dark Phoenix (which he didn't want to have the Phoenix power in the first place, thanks Tony) and suddenly he is criminal/villain number one. I mean Jean destroyed an entire planet while holding the same power and no one (on earth) really batted an eye when pointing the finger of guilt.
the thing I like about the current status quo is that I completely understand why Cyclops is doing what he's doing, but I also understand why some people want him locked up. I don't think either side is completely right or wrong.
If you had told Spider-Man fan from 20 years ago that Doctor Octopus would be joyriding Peter Parkers body, they'd probably just go "But he's not a clone, at least?"
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Time for more Dr. Strange. I happen to agree with MightyGodKing's assessment that the quintessential Dr. Strange plot is "Will you condemn on man to save the world?" Just as Superman's is "You can't save everyone." Well, in the late 80s (big surprise) Strange had a lengthy arc where he got a bit nastier than usual. The overall arc isn't that great and indulges a little too heavily in 80s extremity, but the following moment was still quite the shocker.
Oh, also, Strange had a lime-green inter-dimensional minotaur for an apprentice at the time.
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It looks like the blast is tearing Strange's butt from his body
Butt or tunic, either way I think Strange works better when his personality is that of a stone cold bastard. Because really, when you're dealing with the likes of Dormammu, Shuma-Gorath, Mephisto and all the rest - you need to be able to drop the hammer fast.
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Strange is a very compassionate man, but he's under extreme stress and always has to look at the big picture. It's been a running theme for him that he focuses on discipline and sets his emotions aside to get the job done, which has often been detrimental for his mental health. Still, even at his most empathetic he knows that sometimes you've got to kill a dude, and that innocents will suffer when the cosmic entities throw down.
At the same time, he also knows this is all an issue, and tries to find ways to relieve the stress and indulge himself between world-threatening crises:
At the same time, he also knows this is all an issue, and tries to find ways to relieve the stress and indulge himself between world-threatening crises.
I liked the Waid one far more than Season One. Still, both of them, along with Vaughn's The Oath, were clearly intended to be the launching off points for a new Dr. Strange series. None of them sold well enough to warrant it, however.
At the same time, he also knows this is all an issue, and tries to find ways to relieve the stress and indulge himself between world-threatening crises.
Sex. Lots of sex.
Well, obviously. What woman could resist that mustache?
Though I must say, I always thought it was in bad taste to make Wong do the cleanup.
I think Pretty Deadly is going to be more like the style in Strange, but I'm not sure.
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Let it not be said that the Sorcerer Supreme, guardian of our reality against extradimensional threats, does not know how to appreciate the simple things.
I liked the Waid one far more than Season One. Still, both of them, along with Vaughn's The Oath, were clearly intended to be the launching off points for a new Dr. Strange series. None of them sold well enough to warrant it, however.
The Oath was really good. I love me some Dr Strange
I liked the Waid one far more than Season One. Still, both of them, along with Vaughn's The Oath, were clearly intended to be the launching off points for a new Dr. Strange series. None of them sold well enough to warrant it, however.
The Oath was really good. I love me some Dr Strange
The Oath was awesome, I didn't like the first issue of Waid's series though. Strange has always been pretty good though (ignoring the Strangers-period from the 90s and even then there were some good ideas in there.)
The question on my mind is why does it look like he has ketchup on his shirt? Don't you dare tell me that Strange is one of those philistines that puts ketchup on a hotdog! The Sorcerer Supreme would know that in all the meta-dimensions that the only true condiment for a hotdog is mustard.
...you can put both on a hot dog, you know. He'll, everybody I know loads the suckers up with everything they can find... Ketchup, mustard, relish, onions...
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Unlike Wolverine, who is of course the height of moral success
eff the haters
If you'd told the average X-Men fan 20 years ago that this was going to be the status quo at some point, they just plain wouldn't have believed you.
Oh, also, Strange had a lime-green inter-dimensional minotaur for an apprentice at the time.
The butt is where you keep your conscience.
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At the same time, he also knows this is all an issue, and tries to find ways to relieve the stress and indulge himself between world-threatening crises:
He could probably be doing better.
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Sex. Lots of sex.
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Season One was better though, by far
I liked the Waid one far more than Season One. Still, both of them, along with Vaughn's The Oath, were clearly intended to be the launching off points for a new Dr. Strange series. None of them sold well enough to warrant it, however.
Yeah, she had kind of a Skottie Young-like transformation, moving away from a really clean style, to something more gritty.
I think her new stuff is more visually interesting, but her work on Strange and Hexed is still pretty amazing.
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Well, obviously. What woman could resist that mustache?
Though I must say, I always thought it was in bad taste to make Wong do the cleanup.
because this is literally the first time I've known that it exists
Because I have heard very good things about that run, but I didn't have enough money to buy it.
Yes, it's that story. Get it.
The Oath was really good. I love me some Dr Strange
The Oath was awesome, I didn't like the first issue of Waid's series though. Strange has always been pretty good though (ignoring the Strangers-period from the 90s and even then there were some good ideas in there.)
any more toppings and it feels like overkill