The only problem is that I don't think it's much of a redesign and more of a gender swap. Why does link look like a ridiculous idiot?
Otherwise, I don't have an issue with his designs. It's fun to do that stuff, and I think he draws it very well. Especially the multiple zelda designs at the bottom.
The only problem is that I don't think it's much of a redesign and more of a gender swap. Why does link look like a ridiculous idiot?
Otherwise, I don't have an issue with his designs. It's fun to do that stuff, and I think he draws it very well. Especially the multiple zelda designs at the bottom.
It's not a redesign in general, he was specifically aiming to reverse Link and Zelda's roles
Rock resist fire use metal claw you idiot, unless that Comic follows RBY mechanics were onix's special stat is so low that even special not effective moves can take him down
ugh that is such shit, god his redesigns are always the worst.
I'm not invested in Zelda, like, at all but I fail to see what the issue is with his redesign, I really liked it!
link looks really bad, and all, all of his redesigns are simply him putting his main character in as the main character of the other property. Ganon hasn't been redesigned other than to put a stupidly small monocle on his face. His stuff is just always so self involved and uninspired.
ugh that is such shit, god his redesigns are always the worst.
I'm not invested in Zelda, like, at all but I fail to see what the issue is with his redesign, I really liked it!
link looks really bad, and all, all of his redesigns are simply him putting his main character in as the main character of the other property. Ganon hasn't been redesigned other than to put a stupidly small monocle on his face. His stuff is just always so self involved and uninspired.
Link looks foppish and ornate because that's his character in this, a sheltered prince. Ganondorf's design isn't drastic, yeah, but then again he was never the focus of the project to begin with. I feel like much of the fury directed at this redesign specifically is less justified and rather individuals infuriated with what they perceive as the emasculation of Link.
rby was so broken holy shit how did we all love those games
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Those are terrible redesigns anyway.
It shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the game and its lore, instead cashing in on a known brand to get some hits.
Link is Green is Triforce of Courage
Zelda is Blue is Triforce of Wisdom
Ganon is Red is Triforce of Power
Ganon is a fucking wild beast. Gannondorf showed that even in his brief human form, he was a wild man from the wastelands. When granted his heart's desire by the golden kingdom, he became a fucking beastlord. He is the embodiment of wild-rage and power, and his aesthetic always emphasizes such. It's part of his Gat Damn motif.
Zelda is not a master sword user. She is wisdom. Note how her warrior persona was Sheik, a ninja who used subterfuge, wit, and quick thinking to hide everything about her (including her gender) to protect her triforce. She is about magic, about thinking things through. When she was a pirate queen, she was using fucking wisdom and not great courage or power to make her empire known.
Link is who he is because he's about courage. He always comes from humble backgrounds to emphasize the epic undertaking that he is about to embark on. He's often a child to hammer the point home that he is fighting demons, monsters, and all sorts of scary shit but bravely moves forward. The Master Sword only gives itself to those truly worthy, and he is worthy because of his bravery.
But nope! 'Empower' the woman, steampunk it up to shit, and post it on Kotaku. That's the bees knees.
And aside from being horrible 'redesigns' based on a fundamental lack of caring about the series, they are the blandest, bland, bland shit you could imagine. It is boring, standard, victorian 'steampunk' shit. It is hilariously appropriate the kotaku picked up on this with a raging boner and announced that Nintendo is 'lacks the balls' to have a poor gender reversal that has nothing to do with the series but the names.
If nothing else, the absolute irony of making Zelda the empowered woman blah blah with the sword and having the headline "Lacks the Balls" tells you all you need to know about Kotaku's reporting. They should bronze, frame, and display it at their corporate headquarters at the center of their motivational posters.
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ugh that is such shit, god his redesigns are always the worst.
I'm not invested in Zelda, like, at all but I fail to see what the issue is with his redesign, I really liked it!
link looks really bad, and all, all of his redesigns are simply him putting his main character in as the main character of the other property. Ganon hasn't been redesigned other than to put a stupidly small monocle on his face. His stuff is just always so self involved and uninspired.
Link looks foppish and ornate because that's his character in this, a sheltered prince. Ganondorf's design isn't drastic, yeah, but then again he was never the focus of the project to begin with. I feel like much of the fury directed at this redesign specifically is less justified and rather individuals infuriated with what they perceive as the emasculation of Link.
I don't care about a gender swap redesign, I care that his "redesigns" are always the most boring choice and always are simply his character dressing up as an xman or as link or as whatever else.
People can dislike something without it being because they're misogynists.
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And I mean, it's not like he designed every inch of the game and it's plot intricacies, there's nothing to suggest that Ganondorf wouldn't degenerate into a furious animal, or that Prince Link wouldn't display courage. He also specifically mentions her primary ability is magic, and of that barely any is aggressive/offensive. As far as the Sheik stealth aspect goes he describes a Sheikah robe designed to facilitate that kind of gameplay. I think you're violently reacting this because of a nostalgic investment in the series and preconceptions about the intention of the design.
One thing I really liked about Spirit Tracks is it's probably the most honest deconstruction of Link and Zelda's relationship in the series
It's the one game in the whole thing where Zelda never, ever, ever loses her personal agency, and she's just as important as Link, and the only time you have to "protect" her is when she's winding up to blow the bad guy all to Hell. You are a tank drawing aggro away from her.
Nintendo's been moving in good directions in terms of making Zelda more than just a damsel. They're not entirely there yet, but by God they're going in the right direction.
I'm not bothered that Link is the damsel, here. I'm kind of bothered by the idea that their role reversal seems to be reversing the roles they had in 1992
I you think the only motivation Diaz could possibly have for wanting an empowered female protagonist is MORE HITS ON TUMBLR, then I would suggest you have some issues with gender perception yourself.
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And I mean, it's not like he designed every inch of the game and it's plot intricacies, there's nothing to suggest that Ganondorf wouldn't degenerate into a furious animal, or that Prince Link wouldn't display courage. He also specifically mentions her primary ability is magic, and of that barely any is aggressive/offensive. As far as the Sheik stealth aspect goes he describes a Sheikah robe designed to facilitate that kind of gameplay. I think you're violently reacting this because of a nostalgic investment in the series and preconceptions about the intention of the design.
It comes off as something that a dude who played Ocarina once decided to make some dudes wear fancy Victorian suites and reverse their genderoles.
I read the descriptions of the characters and it doesn't fit them at all. You want me to do a better job in a paragraph about them with a different setting?
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I kind of like hte redesigns. They feel a beet safe, a bit too steampunk for my liking, but they're neat conceptually! I'd sooner have Link be an ignorant prince with real courage rather than a sheltered fop, but overall I actually liked it. Bit too much focus on the transformation mechanic for Zelda, but I think Diaz's heart is in the right place.
Now let me tell you how I would make a game starring Zelda
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I you think the only motivation Diaz could possibly have for wanting an empowered female protagonist is MORE HITS ON TUMBLR, then I would suggest you have some issues with gender perception yourself.
That's downright insulting and not at all what I said.
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I you think the only motivation Diaz could possibly have for wanting an empowered female protagonist is MORE HITS ON TUMBLR, then I would suggest you have some issues with gender perception yourself.
That's downright insulting and not at all what I said.
yeah it's pretty ridiculous to have an opinion constantly accused coming from bigotry when it's not coming from that place at all.
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Ganondorf in a monocle.
Ganondorf in a monocle.
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I can't deal. I simply cannot deal.
yeah a lot of them are flawed in some major way but with most of them he at least tries to do something that's beyond the bounds of the norm
that said dude has got a bad case of the kimikos
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Otherwise, I don't have an issue with his designs. It's fun to do that stuff, and I think he draws it very well. Especially the multiple zelda designs at the bottom.
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It's not a redesign in general, he was specifically aiming to reverse Link and Zelda's roles
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This must be so awkward for everyone.
link looks really bad, and all, all of his redesigns are simply him putting his main character in as the main character of the other property. Ganon hasn't been redesigned other than to put a stupidly small monocle on his face. His stuff is just always so self involved and uninspired.
Link looks foppish and ornate because that's his character in this, a sheltered prince. Ganondorf's design isn't drastic, yeah, but then again he was never the focus of the project to begin with. I feel like much of the fury directed at this redesign specifically is less justified and rather individuals infuriated with what they perceive as the emasculation of Link.
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I care more about useless lore than gender politics
It shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the game and its lore, instead cashing in on a known brand to get some hits.
Link is Green is Triforce of Courage
Zelda is Blue is Triforce of Wisdom
Ganon is Red is Triforce of Power
Ganon is a fucking wild beast. Gannondorf showed that even in his brief human form, he was a wild man from the wastelands. When granted his heart's desire by the golden kingdom, he became a fucking beastlord. He is the embodiment of wild-rage and power, and his aesthetic always emphasizes such. It's part of his Gat Damn motif.
Zelda is not a master sword user. She is wisdom. Note how her warrior persona was Sheik, a ninja who used subterfuge, wit, and quick thinking to hide everything about her (including her gender) to protect her triforce. She is about magic, about thinking things through. When she was a pirate queen, she was using fucking wisdom and not great courage or power to make her empire known.
Link is who he is because he's about courage. He always comes from humble backgrounds to emphasize the epic undertaking that he is about to embark on. He's often a child to hammer the point home that he is fighting demons, monsters, and all sorts of scary shit but bravely moves forward. The Master Sword only gives itself to those truly worthy, and he is worthy because of his bravery.
But nope! 'Empower' the woman, steampunk it up to shit, and post it on Kotaku. That's the bees knees.
And aside from being horrible 'redesigns' based on a fundamental lack of caring about the series, they are the blandest, bland, bland shit you could imagine. It is boring, standard, victorian 'steampunk' shit. It is hilariously appropriate the kotaku picked up on this with a raging boner and announced that Nintendo is 'lacks the balls' to have a poor gender reversal that has nothing to do with the series but the names.
If nothing else, the absolute irony of making Zelda the empowered woman blah blah with the sword and having the headline "Lacks the Balls" tells you all you need to know about Kotaku's reporting. They should bronze, frame, and display it at their corporate headquarters at the center of their motivational posters.
I don't care about a gender swap redesign, I care that his "redesigns" are always the most boring choice and always are simply his character dressing up as an xman or as link or as whatever else.
People can dislike something without it being because they're misogynists.
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Because they were awesome, train your monsters use them to battle with your friends,
You have 150 monsters to make Your party,
And they were adictive games
I don't like the redesigns for the reasons I put up and then I attacked Kotaku as well because why not.
It's a genderswap with a boring as balls aesthetic with no concern over the series itself and why the characters are who they are.
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It's the one game in the whole thing where Zelda never, ever, ever loses her personal agency, and she's just as important as Link, and the only time you have to "protect" her is when she's winding up to blow the bad guy all to Hell. You are a tank drawing aggro away from her.
Nintendo's been moving in good directions in terms of making Zelda more than just a damsel. They're not entirely there yet, but by God they're going in the right direction.
I'm not bothered that Link is the damsel, here. I'm kind of bothered by the idea that their role reversal seems to be reversing the roles they had in 1992
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It comes off as something that a dude who played Ocarina once decided to make some dudes wear fancy Victorian suites and reverse their genderoles.
I read the descriptions of the characters and it doesn't fit them at all. You want me to do a better job in a paragraph about them with a different setting?
Now let me tell you how I would make a game starring Zelda
That's downright insulting and not at all what I said.
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yeah it's pretty ridiculous to have an opinion constantly accused coming from bigotry when it's not coming from that place at all.
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