Yeah, but they had other family saying he didn't belong there and he (reasonably) didn't have papers verifying his status on him?
Regardless, the hospital isn't going to forcibly remove anyone unless they're causing a security problem. So, as I've said, there's probably more to this story. I'm not saying bigotry wasn't involved, but it's very likely not as simple as "hospital uses excessive force to apply bigotry."
Yeah, but they had other family saying he didn't belong there and he (reasonably) didn't have papers verifying his status on him?
Regardless, the hospital isn't going to forcibly remove anyone unless they're causing a security problem. So, as I've said, there's probably more to this story. I'm not saying bigotry wasn't involved, but it's very likely not as simple as "hospital uses excessive force to apply bigotry."
Yes I am totally agreeing with you on that.
To play devil's advocate, if the exact same situation happened, except instead of gay, the 2 people in the relationship were of different races and the family was racist, but everything else was the same, the outcome would probably be the same as well.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that this has happened on a smaller scales due to family not liking their child's spouse/significant other.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
Yeah, but they had other family saying he didn't belong there and he (reasonably) didn't have papers verifying his status on him?
Regardless, the hospital isn't going to forcibly remove anyone unless they're causing a security problem. So, as I've said, there's probably more to this story. I'm not saying bigotry wasn't involved, but it's very likely not as simple as "hospital uses excessive force to apply bigotry."
Yes I am totally agreeing with you on that.
To play devil's advocate, if the exact same situation happened, except instead of gay, the 2 people in the relationship were of different races and the family was racist, but everything else was the same, the outcome would probably be the same as well.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that this has happened on a smaller scales due to family not liking their child's spouse/significant other.
I think this is still a very likely possibility for this case, as well, but the fact that the SO was forcibly ejected by handcuffs makes me think the conflict went beyond simple interpersonal disagreement.
As expected, the French Senate granted final approval to marriage equality legislation today by a show-of-hands vote. The National Assembly must hold another vote in May to review some minor amendments that were made in the Senate, but given the bill originally passed there by a 100-vote margin, the extra vote poses no real threat to passage.
Same-sex marriage will become law a few months from now, making France the 13th country to legalize it. Uruguay became the 12th a few days ago.
So when gay marriage is no longer an issue, what is the next big goal to be worked on?
I dunno about the next issue under the umbrella of gay rights but, as social issues go, the abortion fight certainly seems to be making a comeback across the country (though that is for a different thread I guess)
I have a feeling that one will never go away. It will always be a fierce battle.
We always have one
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
Former Boy Scouts of America president Rick Cronk appeared before the committee on Wednesday, telling members that Scouting has had a positive impact on the state and that being taxed on fundraising sales would hurt local troops.
Um . . . that's the point.
"Penalizing us for being jerks will have a negative effect on our ability to be jerks."
Strong rhetoric, that.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
oh hello, same bullshit argument, nice to see you
"We do a lot of work holding hostage helping homeless people; if you make us stop discriminating against gays, we won't be able to help those poor homeless! Wouldn't that be a shame!"
"We run a lot of charity hospitals; if you make us pay settlements to children our priests abused, that's just less money to help poor sick people!"
I doubt the bill will pass but the fact it got this far will hopefully remind the leaders of the BSA they aren't immune from criticism. Or consequences.
There's no plan, there's no race to be run
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
"We do a lot of work holding hostage helping homeless people; if you make us stop discriminating against gays, we won't be able to help those poor homeless! Wouldn't that be a shame!"
"We run a lot of charity hospitals; if you make us pay settlements to children our priests abused, that's just less money to help poor sick people!"
Former Boy Scouts of America president Rick Cronk appeared before the committee on Wednesday, telling members that Scouting has had a positive impact on the state and that being taxed on fundraising sales would hurt local troops.
Um . . . that's the point.
"Penalizing us for being jerks will have a negative effect on our ability to be jerks."
Strong rhetoric, that.
It's a bit different because of the BSA structure. The troops in California have almost no say in the policy, besides the general "don't tell regional what regional doesn't need to know". It's basically like passing a special tax of chick-fil-a and it's franchisees, except only in CA. Its not going to really alter the corporate policy one inch.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
Theoretically the corporate heads of BSA should care if all its subsidiary troops lose their non-profit tax benefits.
If they don't then, well, maybe the CA troops should break off.
As expected, the French Senate granted final approval to marriage equality legislation today by a show-of-hands vote. The National Assembly must hold another vote in May to review some minor amendments that were made in the Senate, but given the bill originally passed there by a 100-vote margin, the extra vote poses no real threat to passage.
Same-sex marriage will become law a few months from now, making France the 13th country to legalize it. Uruguay became the 12th a few days ago.
Dammit! That's terrible news.
The bloody French beat us to it. We'll just have to make British gay weddings 50% gayer - or weddingier - to show them up.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
As expected, the French Senate granted final approval to marriage equality legislation today by a show-of-hands vote. The National Assembly must hold another vote in May to review some minor amendments that were made in the Senate, but given the bill originally passed there by a 100-vote margin, the extra vote poses no real threat to passage.
Same-sex marriage will become law a few months from now, making France the 13th country to legalize it. Uruguay became the 12th a few days ago.
Dammit! That's terrible news.
The bloody French beat us to it. We'll just have to make British gay weddings 50% gayer - or weddingier - to show them up.
As expected, the French Senate granted final approval to marriage equality legislation today by a show-of-hands vote. The National Assembly must hold another vote in May to review some minor amendments that were made in the Senate, but given the bill originally passed there by a 100-vote margin, the extra vote poses no real threat to passage.
Same-sex marriage will become law a few months from now, making France the 13th country to legalize it. Uruguay became the 12th a few days ago.
Dammit! That's terrible news.
The bloody French beat us to it. We'll just have to make British gay weddings 50% gayer - or weddingier - to show them up.
i mean... you're already British...
Yeah, but they're already French.
*ba-dum-ching*
There's no plan, there's no race to be run
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Today at work someone brought in a bunch of Krispy Kreme and, for some reason, Chic-fil-a. Given that the restaurants are extremely rare in the bay area, he must have driven pretty far to do so.
I'm trying to ignore it, but I'm already having a mildly annoying day without being reminded of the whole freaking hate-chicken thing.
There's no plan, there's no race to be run
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
I have one right by my house. I won't lie, I love Chik-Fil-A, it's delicious.
I haven't eaten there in two years, and won't even eat it when it's brought in for free for staff lunches.
Yeah in theory this is my free chance to finally see what the fuss is about. But I found I was so cranky about being reminded of the whole shitstorm I wasn't in the mood for it.
There's no plan, there's no race to be run
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Today at work someone brought in a bunch of Krispy Kreme and, for some reason, Chic-fil-a. Given that the restaurants are extremely rare in the bay area, he must have driven pretty far to do so.
I'm trying to ignore it, but I'm already having a mildly annoying day without being reminded of the whole freaking hate-chicken thing.
Are they perhaps a transplant from somewhere else? There's a lot of regional bias in brands.
Although Krispy Kreme is objectively superior to Dunkin Doughnuts.
Today at work someone brought in a bunch of Krispy Kreme and, for some reason, Chic-fil-a. Given that the restaurants are extremely rare in the bay area, he must have driven pretty far to do so.
I'm trying to ignore it, but I'm already having a mildly annoying day without being reminded of the whole freaking hate-chicken thing.
Are they perhaps a transplant from somewhere else? There's a lot of regional bias in brands.
Although Krispy Kreme is objectively superior to Dunkin Doughnuts.
There's a starbucks and a Chick-fil-a right next to each other in my town. Both new, and both built around the same time. I like to think they have epic battles everyday.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Wait what's wrong with Krispy Kreme? What did they do?
I'm already a terrible gay for not turning down free chicken, but I actively buy Krispy Kreme. Don't make me add buying delicious, hate-filled doughnuts to my list of sins.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
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ExtreaminatusGo forth and amplify,the Noise Marines are here!Registered Userregular
Can't we just agree that Dunkin' makes the great donuts, but Krispy makes great doughnuts?
They're fried pastry dough covered and/or filled with other things that are also delicious. "Great" is the worst they can be.
Edit: Unless what they're covered with is psalms.
Edit2: Nevermind, Tim Hortons bought them, failed them out of business, and then some former employees took the name and started their own thing. I wonder if they still put the bible quotes on shit.
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Yes I am totally agreeing with you on that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5E81h69tx5w#at=39
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To play devil's advocate, if the exact same situation happened, except instead of gay, the 2 people in the relationship were of different races and the family was racist, but everything else was the same, the outcome would probably be the same as well.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that this has happened on a smaller scales due to family not liking their child's spouse/significant other.
I think this is still a very likely possibility for this case, as well, but the fact that the SO was forcibly ejected by handcuffs makes me think the conflict went beyond simple interpersonal disagreement.
Same-sex marriage will become law a few months from now, making France the 13th country to legalize it. Uruguay became the 12th a few days ago.
Steam
I have a feeling that one will never go away. It will always be a fierce battle.
We always have one
Um . . . that's the point.
"Penalizing us for being jerks will have a negative effect on our ability to be jerks."
Strong rhetoric, that.
"We do a lot of work holding hostage helping homeless people; if you make us stop discriminating against gays, we won't be able to help those poor homeless! Wouldn't that be a shame!"
"We run a lot of charity hospitals; if you make us pay settlements to children our priests abused, that's just less money to help poor sick people!"
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
It's hostage taking, pure and simple.
churches aren't even that arousing
Speak for yourself.
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It's a bit different because of the BSA structure. The troops in California have almost no say in the policy, besides the general "don't tell regional what regional doesn't need to know". It's basically like passing a special tax of chick-fil-a and it's franchisees, except only in CA. Its not going to really alter the corporate policy one inch.
If they don't then, well, maybe the CA troops should break off.
Dammit! That's terrible news.
The bloody French beat us to it. We'll just have to make British gay weddings 50% gayer - or weddingier - to show them up.
i mean... you're already British...
Yeah, but they're already French.
*ba-dum-ching*
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I'm trying to ignore it, but I'm already having a mildly annoying day without being reminded of the whole freaking hate-chicken thing.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I haven't eaten there in two years, and won't even eat it when it's brought in for free for staff lunches.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Are they perhaps a transplant from somewhere else? There's a lot of regional bias in brands.
Although Krispy Kreme is objectively superior to Dunkin Doughnuts.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Highest blasphemy.
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Saw one in the flesh and was like "oh hey, a Chick-fil-a. (lol)"
Uncle: "Why, you wanna go there for lunch?"
"NO."
I'm already a terrible gay for not turning down free chicken, but I actively buy Krispy Kreme. Don't make me add buying delicious, hate-filled doughnuts to my list of sins.
Their donuts aren't the worst, but there are several better, and Dunkin's has tremendous variety AND amazing coffee.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
It's seriously the only coffee that I'll buy from a store.
They're fried pastry dough covered and/or filled with other things that are also delicious. "Great" is the worst they can be.
Edit: Unless what they're covered with is psalms.
Edit2: Nevermind, Tim Hortons bought them, failed them out of business, and then some former employees took the name and started their own thing. I wonder if they still put the bible quotes on shit.