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Speaking of creepy, I'm getting tired of Johnny Depp. Somehow they built an entire film out of "Johnny Depp wants to wear the stupidest hat ever", starring some guy with an obvious joke name.
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why fuck him?
he was/is a great actor who started doing a lot of big payday movies. I have trouble hating someone for that, although I have no interest in seeing most of what he's doing now.
he was/is a great actor who started doing a lot of big payday movies. I have trouble hating someone for that, although I have no interest in seeing most of what he's doing now.
I like some of his movies. Shit, I love Fear and Loathing. But anyone who supports Roman Polanski is a true son of a fuck.
Oh man, favorite movie is hands down Big Trouble in Little China. It's got everything. I first watched that back in 86 or 87 and I've loved it every since. Never leaves my iPhone. There is always room for John Carpenter's BTiLC.
Just remember what old Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big old storm right in the eye and says "Give me your best shot. I can take it."
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he was/is a great actor who started doing a lot of big payday movies. I have trouble hating someone for that, although I have no interest in seeing most of what he's doing now.
I like some of his movies. Shit, I love Fear and Loathing. But anyone who supports Roman Polanski is a true son of a fuck.
What about movies you enjoy, but can't figure out why? Just those movies that when you see them on, you can easily just sit entranced even though they're so far out of the realm of what you normally watch that you just can't figure out why you even turned it on.
For me, this movie is Bottle Shock. Alan Rickman plays a snobby english wine connoisseur with a taste for french wines and a failing wine shop in England because he stocks mainly french wine. In an effort to drum up some publicity, he sets out to organize a wine tasting pitting traditional French Wines against the wines coming out of California. Most of the movie is him traveling to various vineyards trying to convince them to participate, and the winemakers worrying that they're being set up to be humiliated on a global stage. It ends with the big wine tasting, and the Californian wines handily beating the French wines to the shock of everyone.
I love watching this movie, but for the life of me, I don't know why. I don't drink wine, I know practically nothing about it or what makes a wine good or a wine bad. But for some reason, everytime I see this movie on, I watch it. It's got terrible reviews, a %49 on Rotten Tomatoes, a complete lack of space ships, explosions and exploding spaceships... and yet I always tune it in when it's on.
During a television interview on 10 March 2011, Geimer blamed the media, reporters, the court, and the judge for causing "way more damage to [her] and her family than anything Roman Polanski has ever done," and stated that the judge was using her and a noted celebrity for his own personal gain from the media exposure.
I have trouble mustering the level of moral outrage that some people feel when those are the feelings of the victim.
During a television interview on 10 March 2011, Geimer blamed the media, reporters, the court, and the judge for causing "way more damage to [her] and her family than anything Roman Polanski has ever done," and stated that the judge was using her and a noted celebrity for his own personal gain from the media exposure.
I have trouble mustering the level of moral outrage that some people feel when those are the feelings of the victim.
I believe part of that comes from the fact that she was drugged into oblivion and doesn't remember the details of the rape.
All that damage to her and her family was caused by Polanski raping her and then fleeing the country to escape prosecution. The fact that he has been living freely in Europe for 30 years has kept the story alive.
It's not even comparable to regular statutory rape where the "victim" is a willing participant.
He drugged her, she passed out, and then he raped her.
Edit: That line was probably goosier than I intended.
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Haven't seen a movie that caters directly to me more than Event horizon yet.
It's a great, almost seamless, fusion between my two fave genres, (hard) scifi and horror; It's visuals are very well-crafted; Curiously high-profile and competent cast, and plenty of other little filmmaking details that just makes it thouroughly enjoyable.
I actually walked out of Event Horizon. I didn't know it was a horror film, thought I was going to see a science fiction film. Next thing you know people are all pulling their eyeballs out and shit. It was really graphic.
The bit after The Repeater where they cold-open on the guys stuck in the trailer with "...and that was the third time I got crabs," is the second-hardest I think I've laughed at a movie
We used to use shenanigans as a code word for finding explosives or other contraband in Iraq, back in 2005.
Edit: because of Super Troopers. Still a hilarious movie.
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When I got out of the navy I really wanted to apply to Highway Patrol, specifically so I could answer the question "So why do you want to join the CHP?"
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I'm thinking the only Tim Burton film I really enjoyed was probably Sleepy Hollow. I've never really been a fan of his whole creepy "thing."
See, I love Burton's aesthetic sensibilities. They match my own, a lot of times. I rarely get tired of the way things look in his movies. The stupid stories? Yep, but most of the time I like the look. When he goes too crazy with the bright colors I start to lose it (Alice in Wonderland, mostly).
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
I'll give her that. But Pfeiffer, Kitt, Newmar all > than Hathaway's Catwoman.
Unless you're just rating her on hotness, which is not what I am doing.
I just rewatched Rises today, I really like Hathaways catwoman. Way less campy, a little more realistic-adjacent cat burglar (The giant heels are just never going to be reasonable for fighting/sneaking). Pfeiffer though? Maybe hotter, and much campier. She fits perfectly in Burton's movie, but I don't think that she would have been quite as home in Nolan's universe. A little too weird.
EDIT - I should be clear though, I love both Batman Returns (probably my second favorite of all the Batman movies), and Pfeiffer. I also love Hathaway though. So I'm comfortable declaring it a tie.
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"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Pfeiffer's Catwoman fits Burton's Batman universe well, just like Nicholson's Joker fits it well.
I'm just not interested in that universe at all.
I think Big Fish is the only Burton movie I really like. I've enjoyed some of his other stuff, but never felt the need to watch most of it again.
I intensely disliked Big Fish. Batman Returns, on the other hand, I love - it's at the point in Burton's career where his romantic goth cartoon style worked best for me. Later it turned into too much of a shtik, a copy of itself without any of the heart and panache. (Burton's first Batman doesn't do anything for me, on the other hand.)
Oh, and The Iron Lady is one of those films that doesn't deserve the tiniest bit of the acting talent in it. If the script were worth *anything*, I could accept Streep's performance as fantastic - since the script never makes any of the characters believable or interesting, the performance remains at the level of a really impressive impersonation.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
I tend to use them interchangeably, mainly because otherwise it becomes very easy for a paragraph to become repetitive as hell. Blah blah blah movie blah blah blah blah movie blah movie (replace 'movie' with 'film' for the artsy equivalent).
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
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I've used them to differentiate before, but it's really not a good concept. I feel like it fosters wrong thinking on both sides of the divide, allowing the "film" people to look down on movies as popular trash and the "movie" people to look down on films as snooty, impenetrable [forbidden word] art.
And I think it lets "movies" off the hook for adhering to low expectations. Any movie should be judged more on whether it fulfills its intentions than what those intentions are; but too often the idea of, "it's just a movie, I'm not looking for Shakespeare here" means making allowances for shoddy execution. Independence Day is a fun movie, but it's also bloated, illogical, and cliched; to excuse it by saying "it's not a film, it's just a movie" is to forget that there are great fucking "movies" out there that deliver accessible fun through quality execution.
We'd do better to not be so divided, and instead talk about what each individual movie is trying to do, and how, and to what purpose or effect. Because fundamentally, both Amelie and Independence Day are trying to thrill, amuse and entertain us; they just approach the task in vastly different ways.
Raiders of the Lost Ark being a case in point (and discussed yesterday? the day before? in this thread). As a cinematic work it succeeds better than almost any other film I know at doing what it sets out to do and doing it pretty much to perfection.
It's definitely very similar to the (IMO fruitless) discussion of whether something is art or not. It makes much more sense to look at what any individual work sets out to do and whether it does it well. Bringing in an overly simplistic distinction between 'worthy' films and 'disposable but fun' movies' doesn't do either category any favours in the end.
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"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
There is no difference between the two words in terms of what they mean, except that there is, because people use them differently. Think back - how often have you seen the 'A Film By X' compared to 'A Movie By X' credit?
(And how often has your mind flashed to the P word on seeing that credit?)
Christoph Waltz worked with Polanski and praises him. Perhaps the man has changed in the forty years since. Perhaps he hasn't. Only one who knows is him, I suppose.
You see I like Christoph Waltz a helluva lot more then I hate a man I've never met who's continents away and doesn't appear to have done any harm in forty years.
I can forgive working with the guy, I mean, there could be lots of reasons for that. But defending him? Fuck that noise.
Regardless of what happened, I think it's safe to assume that if the topic did come up between the two of them, Polanski will have presented a much more defensible account of the story. Which is probably what Depp has based his opinion on.
Either way, I find any moral outrage on this matter both irrelevant and impotent... so I don't see why it matters.
In that case, putting aside the moral outrage factor: I do consider Chinatown pretty much perfect. It's by far my favourite neo-noir movie and it's got an amazing, if suicide-inducingly bleak, ending.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
It is pretty impotent, and so has rescinded to the dark abyss from whence it came.
The think I love about Kubrick is how adept he is at manipulating the emotions of the people watching the movie. Like the roller coaster of sympathy you feel for Alex deLarge in A Clockwork Orange. You hate him, then you feel sympathy for him, then more sympathy, and then you end up completley hating him again in the end when
Now that is a fantastic bit of film that can be watched by anyone, at any time.
When I was a kid my mom would take my sister and me to a video rental store and she would let us each pick out a movie. I would always try to get something different (or a Ninja Turtles movie, or Temple of Doom. I think it was mostly Temple of Doom.), but not my sister. No, she always picked the same movie. Beetlejuice. Every. Fucking. Time. And it wasnt like she would watch it once and be done, oh no. Shed watch it once, twice a day until we had to return it. Its been at least 16 years since Ive seen Beetlejuice, and I just dont know if I could watch it again.
Okay, its been 16 years I think Im finally close to being able to see Beetlejuice again.
Shit, wrong one!
As for my favorite movie? The Terminator. I will watch that movie any time, any where, all someone has to do is ask.
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Fair enough. I did like Newmar's, which was great for such a cornball show.
I'm not.
But Burton Batman is not my cup of tea, and I don't like Beetlejuice.
Maybe I just don't like Michael Keaton. (Browser wanted to say Akhenaton)
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Both his true name, and the source of his acting prowess!
Its a Henry Selick movie.
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-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
On the other hand, he's buddy buddy with a child rapists.
Yeah, seriously, fuck Johnny Depp. He has a few good movies but fuck him.
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he was/is a great actor who started doing a lot of big payday movies. I have trouble hating someone for that, although I have no interest in seeing most of what he's doing now.
I always forget that one. very good.
I like some of his movies. Shit, I love Fear and Loathing. But anyone who supports Roman Polanski is a true son of a fuck.
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Just remember what old Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big old storm right in the eye and says "Give me your best shot. I can take it."
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oh I don't know anything about it and don't care
okay
For me, this movie is Bottle Shock. Alan Rickman plays a snobby english wine connoisseur with a taste for french wines and a failing wine shop in England because he stocks mainly french wine. In an effort to drum up some publicity, he sets out to organize a wine tasting pitting traditional French Wines against the wines coming out of California. Most of the movie is him traveling to various vineyards trying to convince them to participate, and the winemakers worrying that they're being set up to be humiliated on a global stage. It ends with the big wine tasting, and the Californian wines handily beating the French wines to the shock of everyone.
I love watching this movie, but for the life of me, I don't know why. I don't drink wine, I know practically nothing about it or what makes a wine good or a wine bad. But for some reason, everytime I see this movie on, I watch it. It's got terrible reviews, a %49 on Rotten Tomatoes, a complete lack of space ships, explosions and exploding spaceships... and yet I always tune it in when it's on.
I have trouble mustering the level of moral outrage that some people feel when those are the feelings of the victim.
I believe part of that comes from the fact that she was drugged into oblivion and doesn't remember the details of the rape.
All that damage to her and her family was caused by Polanski raping her and then fleeing the country to escape prosecution. The fact that he has been living freely in Europe for 30 years has kept the story alive.
It's not even comparable to regular statutory rape where the "victim" is a willing participant.
He drugged her, she passed out, and then he raped her.
Edit: That line was probably goosier than I intended.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
nevermind, roman polanski is so far beneath my concern that he's not worth getting infracted over
It's a great, almost seamless, fusion between my two fave genres, (hard) scifi and horror; It's visuals are very well-crafted; Curiously high-profile and competent cast, and plenty of other little filmmaking details that just makes it thouroughly enjoyable.
The bit after The Repeater where they cold-open on the guys stuck in the trailer with "...and that was the third time I got crabs," is the second-hardest I think I've laughed at a movie
Edit: because of Super Troopers. Still a hilarious movie.
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See, I love Burton's aesthetic sensibilities. They match my own, a lot of times. I rarely get tired of the way things look in his movies. The stupid stories? Yep, but most of the time I like the look. When he goes too crazy with the bright colors I start to lose it (Alice in Wonderland, mostly).
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
I just rewatched Rises today, I really like Hathaways catwoman. Way less campy, a little more realistic-adjacent cat burglar (The giant heels are just never going to be reasonable for fighting/sneaking). Pfeiffer though? Maybe hotter, and much campier. She fits perfectly in Burton's movie, but I don't think that she would have been quite as home in Nolan's universe. A little too weird.
EDIT - I should be clear though, I love both Batman Returns (probably my second favorite of all the Batman movies), and Pfeiffer. I also love Hathaway though. So I'm comfortable declaring it a tie.
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
I'm just not interested in that universe at all.
I think Big Fish is the only Burton movie I really like. I've enjoyed some of his other stuff, but never felt the need to watch most of it again.
Oh, and The Iron Lady is one of those films that doesn't deserve the tiniest bit of the acting talent in it. If the script were worth *anything*, I could accept Streep's performance as fantastic - since the script never makes any of the characters believable or interesting, the performance remains at the level of a really impressive impersonation.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
This.
They don't clash with the ascetic but the ascetic is awful.
Burton movies I've liked
ED Wood
Big Fish
Nightmare Before Christmas
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
And I think it lets "movies" off the hook for adhering to low expectations. Any movie should be judged more on whether it fulfills its intentions than what those intentions are; but too often the idea of, "it's just a movie, I'm not looking for Shakespeare here" means making allowances for shoddy execution. Independence Day is a fun movie, but it's also bloated, illogical, and cliched; to excuse it by saying "it's not a film, it's just a movie" is to forget that there are great fucking "movies" out there that deliver accessible fun through quality execution.
We'd do better to not be so divided, and instead talk about what each individual movie is trying to do, and how, and to what purpose or effect. Because fundamentally, both Amelie and Independence Day are trying to thrill, amuse and entertain us; they just approach the task in vastly different ways.
It's definitely very similar to the (IMO fruitless) discussion of whether something is art or not. It makes much more sense to look at what any individual work sets out to do and whether it does it well. Bringing in an overly simplistic distinction between 'worthy' films and 'disposable but fun' movies' doesn't do either category any favours in the end.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
I can forgive working with the guy, I mean, there could be lots of reasons for that. But defending him? Fuck that noise.
Anyway, with that tangent vented, my favorite movie for years has been and probably always will be Dr. Stangelove.
Perfect movie. Perfect cast, perfect music, perfect ending, perfect tone, perfect script.
Perfection.
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(And how often has your mind flashed to the P word on seeing that credit?)
Christoph Waltz worked with Polanski and praises him. Perhaps the man has changed in the forty years since. Perhaps he hasn't. Only one who knows is him, I suppose.
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Regardless of what happened, I think it's safe to assume that if the topic did come up between the two of them, Polanski will have presented a much more defensible account of the story. Which is probably what Depp has based his opinion on.
Either way, I find any moral outrage on this matter both irrelevant and impotent... so I don't see why it matters.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
The think I love about Kubrick is how adept he is at manipulating the emotions of the people watching the movie. Like the roller coaster of sympathy you feel for Alex deLarge in A Clockwork Orange. You hate him, then you feel sympathy for him, then more sympathy, and then you end up completley hating him again in the end when
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When I was a kid my mom would take my sister and me to a video rental store and she would let us each pick out a movie. I would always try to get something different (or a Ninja Turtles movie, or Temple of Doom. I think it was mostly Temple of Doom.), but not my sister. No, she always picked the same movie. Beetlejuice. Every. Fucking. Time. And it wasnt like she would watch it once and be done, oh no. Shed watch it once, twice a day until we had to return it. Its been at least 16 years since Ive seen Beetlejuice, and I just dont know if I could watch it again.
Okay, its been 16 years I think Im finally close to being able to see Beetlejuice again.
Shit, wrong one!
As for my favorite movie? The Terminator. I will watch that movie any time, any where, all someone has to do is ask.