Something I heard long ago, I no longer remember when or where, was that when Jewish families fleeing from persecution on train to Sweden arrived at their end stations, Swedish students would line up around the railway platforms and shout "Juden Raus!" at them.
Though, this was supposed to have taken place long before the White Buses policy, mind.
Alright and in this next scene all the animals have AIDS.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
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Not sure if TLB is trying for a ban or just bored.
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-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Somedays I really wonder why the west has so disowned its own martial heritage but seems so interested in eastern martial arts.
Probably something something Orientalism.
Being at the forefront of military developments, due to fighting each other like seriously all the time, will do that
we abandon the old ways because they're useless
while others like say japan occasionally did the whole stagnation and "we're going to fight in this way because honor or whatever" thing
Japan stagnated but not because of honor. Japan stagnated, basically, because those in power benefited immensely from the country stagnating (ie, they would stay in power for good) and there wasn't outside influence to destabilize stuff, for a long time at least.
But that kind of misses my point. I am not curious as to why we abandoned our old ways. I am curious as to why we are not interested in our old ways as much as we seem to be interested in the old ways of say, Japan.
Mostly time, I think. Fighting with these weapons was the core of Japanese military until quite recently, whereas we long since changed to the gun. Fencing, horsemanship, archery, and other militaresque hobbies were very popular for a few hundred years after they stopped being useful militarily for us, and still are in the upper class in Europe. Same with kendo etc.
There're probably some other minor misc reasons: Being a military dictatorship for a long time (yes, that's what Shogunate means). Losing their aristocracy soon after gaining newer tech, so less chance for these to become aristocratic past-times. Unarmed martial arts being important because of very strict controls on the access of peasants/vassals to weapons. A general rejection of folk arts and folk ways in Anglophone countries.
Oh, yeah, and even though boxing has really gone downhill from its glory days, its still one of the biggest martial arts in the world. And there's kickboxing too. And the west has known about Judo as a practical fighting style (as opposed to ancient and mystical way of secret knowledge) since like, the 20s at least, I'm not sure it really counts as a new thing by now. Teddy Roosevelt did Judo!
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
Oh, yeah, and even though boxing has really gone downhill from its glory days, its still one of the biggest martial arts in the world. And there's kickboxing too. And the west has known about Judo as a practical fighting style (as opposed to ancient and mystical way of secret knowledge) since like, the 20s at least, I'm not sure it really counts as a new thing by now. Teddy Roosevelt did Judo!
Inqi's mentally comparing Japan to America, of course, and I don't think most people get how ubiquitous martial arts are here. They're not the province of fighters - just about every kid does them in school. Boxing, wrestling etc are quite specialist sports in the west. Here, they're like soccer - you just do them in school, no biggie.
I was quite shocked by it. And I did judo and stuff for years.
It's lovely actually. Hardly any meatheads. My wife has a black belt in aikido. They particularly do naginata, archery and horseback archery round here. I see people carrying practice weapons all the time. And there's a swordsmith in my town. Just a shop, and you can go in and pretend it's D&D!
...And now it's pretty clear what he's doing. Only a matter of time now.
whoza what now?
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
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Man, it's been years since I read Greek tragedy. This is bringing back horrible memories of Finals.
Like, I totally get that reading Kafka in your jammies is just something you're supposed to engage in during your college years, but I never even gave a fleeting thought.
Seize that moment kid, in your glorious jammies.
Alright and in this next scene all the animals have AIDS.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
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Rescued my phone, unblocked the sim, felt happy for myself, then as soon as that was achieved the headphone jack frayed so audio is now mono. F you fate or hubris
Somedays I really wonder why the west has so disowned its own martial heritage but seems so interested in eastern martial arts.
Probably something something Orientalism.
Being at the forefront of military developments, due to fighting each other like seriously all the time, will do that
we abandon the old ways because they're useless
while others like say japan occasionally did the whole stagnation and "we're going to fight in this way because honor or whatever" thing
Japan stagnated but not because of honor. Japan stagnated, basically, because those in power benefited immensely from the country stagnating (ie, they would stay in power for good) and there wasn't outside influence to destabilize stuff, for a long time at least.
But that kind of misses my point. I am not curious as to why we abandoned our old ways. I am curious as to why we are not interested in our old ways as much as we seem to be interested in the old ways of say, Japan.
Mostly time, I think. Fighting with these weapons was the core of Japanese military until quite recently, whereas we long since changed to the gun. Fencing, horsemanship, archery, and other militaresque hobbies were very popular for a few hundred years after they stopped being useful militarily for us, and still are in the upper class in Europe. Same with kendo etc.
There're probably some other minor misc reasons: Being a military dictatorship for a long time (yes, that's what Shogunate means). Losing their aristocracy soon after gaining newer tech, so less chance for these to become aristocratic past-times. Unarmed martial arts being important because of very strict controls on the access of peasants/vassals to weapons. A general rejection of folk arts and folk ways in Anglophone countries.
Just time and a big mishmash of minor stuff.
I think the strict controls on weapons was very important here. Gun control was a thing in Japan centuries before it was a major issue anywhere else, and the only reason the sword and bow arts survived is because the aristocracy from which the shogunate drew its power clung to those with incredible tenacity.
Oh, yeah, and even though boxing has really gone downhill from its glory days, its still one of the biggest martial arts in the world. And there's kickboxing too. And the west has known about Judo as a practical fighting style (as opposed to ancient and mystical way of secret knowledge) since like, the 20s at least, I'm not sure it really counts as a new thing by now. Teddy Roosevelt did Judo!
The weird thing about boxing is the average person doesn't consider it a martial art.
It's just boxing.
Martial arts are from the orient, duh.
I had an argument with a friend where I had to explain that martial = Mars. It wasn't in fact a Japanese word.
Also so many Judo things are in older western wrestling styles. There are only so many ways the body can move after all.
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Something I heard long ago, I no longer remember when or where, was that when Jewish families fleeing from persecution on train to Sweden arrived at their end stations, Swedish students would line up around the railway platforms and shout "Juden Raus!" at them.
Though, this was supposed to have taken place long before the White Buses policy, mind.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Mostly time, I think. Fighting with these weapons was the core of Japanese military until quite recently, whereas we long since changed to the gun. Fencing, horsemanship, archery, and other militaresque hobbies were very popular for a few hundred years after they stopped being useful militarily for us, and still are in the upper class in Europe. Same with kendo etc.
There're probably some other minor misc reasons: Being a military dictatorship for a long time (yes, that's what Shogunate means). Losing their aristocracy soon after gaining newer tech, so less chance for these to become aristocratic past-times. Unarmed martial arts being important because of very strict controls on the access of peasants/vassals to weapons. A general rejection of folk arts and folk ways in Anglophone countries.
Just time and a big mishmash of minor stuff.
Why would you need to try for a ban? They're pretty easy to get.
edit: although I guess a non-requested temp ban would require a certain amount of finesse to get deliberately.
Inqi's mentally comparing Japan to America, of course, and I don't think most people get how ubiquitous martial arts are here. They're not the province of fighters - just about every kid does them in school. Boxing, wrestling etc are quite specialist sports in the west. Here, they're like soccer - you just do them in school, no biggie.
I was quite shocked by it. And I did judo and stuff for years.
It's lovely actually. Hardly any meatheads. My wife has a black belt in aikido. They particularly do naginata, archery and horseback archery round here. I see people carrying practice weapons all the time. And there's a swordsmith in my town. Just a shop, and you can go in and pretend it's D&D!
i feel like all the injuries i've spent the last week repressing have caught up with me
either that or someone kicked the crap out of me while i was asleep
Life sux
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
whoza what now?
i woke up at half past four this morning when my phone fell down the side of my bed
god damn, i need coffee more than oxygen at the moment but i'm too tired and sore to go get it
Bless the young man.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
Seize that moment kid, in your glorious jammies.
I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
Going for a suicide by mod over in SE++.
Reported for zombie fellatio.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
fun times
i hate when businesses do that
It looks delightfully tongue in cheek.
I think the strict controls on weapons was very important here. Gun control was a thing in Japan centuries before it was a major issue anywhere else, and the only reason the sword and bow arts survived is because the aristocracy from which the shogunate drew its power clung to those with incredible tenacity.
Some interesting things are in my work filter now!
Old PA forum lookalike style for the new forums | My ko-fi donation thing.
so i should be glad i resisted the temptation to go look?
shit, i'm scared to go in the comic threads at work these days
It's just boxing.
Martial arts are from the orient, duh.
I had an argument with a friend where I had to explain that martial = Mars. It wasn't in fact a Japanese word.
Also so many Judo things are in older western wrestling styles. There are only so many ways the body can move after all.
there's some creepy asian boobs
oh
wonderful
like full on bare boobs? that'll be a ban
Based on that thread? He's not on the highway to a ban. He's booked a flight on a fucking Saturn V.
Old PA forum lookalike style for the new forums | My ko-fi donation thing.
w-why not?
Isn't an "undisclosed location" always a cave between Afghanistan and Pakistan?
So, good morning to our friends of the NSA, too!
70% failure rate. It's pretty damn strict. To the point where people with american licenses have to take another test here, apparently.
But i passed.