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Valiant Comics Thread (New and Old)

Ronin356Ronin356 Nowhere MORegistered User regular
edited November 2012 in Graphic Violence
I just want to hear everybody elses opinion before I start adding my 2 cents.
I was very happy to see this come out.
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The old Valiant comics have a special place in my heart. I'm so happy to see Shadowman come out. I brought the first issue right away.
Here is to hoping that Eternal Warrior gets another comic book.

I'm not sure this will get a second life though.
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Nobody sees a flower really; it is so small. We haven't time, and to see takes time - like to have a friend takes time.
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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Woop woop Valiant reboot comics!

    Archer and Armstrong is really, really good

    as is X-O Manowar

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Also come oooooonnn Solar: Man of the Atom series!

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    I think Bloodshot is the best of the new stuff so far, it just reads like a better Punisher, mainly because there's a better element of revenge.

    X-O Manowar is the next best book, and while I think there's a chance for it to waffle now that Venditti seems to be getting more DC work. Plus Ninjak seems to be a bit too plot powered, and where you get a sense of learning with Aric it just gets pushed aside to show super James Bond ninja dude. But it also had Aric punch a grenade into a dude's chest and explode him, which is something even the Expendables can't pull off.

    Archer and Armstrong I don't care for but not because of the story it's telling, it seems to be very well put together, it just doesn't grab my attention.

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    TyrantCowTyrantCow Registered User regular
    i own both the comics in the OP

    i have nothing to add other than that, sorry.

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    Red or AliveRed or Alive Registered User regular
    I was really underwhelmed by the first issue of Shadowman. I think that, in synthesising both previous iterations of the character, they've strayed too far into conventional superhero territory. And the dialogue just wasn't up to snuff.

    The first 3 or 4 issues of X-O Manowar were decent, thought. And, while Harbinger opened strong, I think I'll follow it in trades just to save some money.

    Also, I don't think the new Valiant has the rights to Dr. Solar. Didn't Dark Horse publish a Man of the Atom mini last year?

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    Man of the WavesMan of the Waves Registered User regular
    So who else is keeping up with Valiant's books? Is anyone else as excited about them as I am?

    Valiant doesn't really get talked up too much around here, but I think they have proven themselves worthy of standing tall with the big companies. Now that their initial arcs for most of their stories are complete and the next chapters are shaping up to be even bigger, I think all the books are above average, especially compared to the big two.

    Also, here's some sort of metric BC put together to show how Valiant's sales stack up. Obviously, the high numbers for their low-end sellers, combined with their smaller list of monthly titles gives them a big boost when stacked up like that. But only having five books in the Valiant universe and the interconnected story lines means more people pick up all of them (like I do).

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    jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    I've kept up with the new Valiant books, and I think they're worthy successors to the Shooter/BWS/Lapham era of the original line. I'm excited for the at-some-point-in-the-future RAI relaunch.

    Valiant does not currently hold the rights to any of the Gold Key characters (Solar, Turok, Magnus:Robot Fighter).

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    ArmorocArmoroc Registered User regular
    Only been keeping up with Archer and Armstrong and I am loving it.

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    I'm trade-waiting everything but Harbinger, but I bought the first issues of everything. It's pretty much the best launch of a comics line, in recent memory. Small, slow, and populated with extremely talented creators.

    It could go off the rails at some point, but it really is the model to follow, for upstart shared-universes.

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    Man of the WavesMan of the Waves Registered User regular
    I hope Valiant stays firmly on their rails or that they can at least make it to the silver screen part of their plan before any derailings.

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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Wow. High praise, Munch.

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    Man of the WavesMan of the Waves Registered User regular
    Valiant killed it this week. Both Harbinger #0 and Shadowman #4 were excellent.

    Everyone needs to pick up Harbinger at the very least. That book is incredible.

    And Shadowman had the best opening arc of the relaunch.

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    Ronin356Ronin356 Nowhere MORegistered User regular
    I'm happy that Shadowman is doing so well. I loved that book. I loves it back in the 90's where nobody really paid any mind to it.
    I'm picking up Shadowman 5 today. Whoo hoo..The return of Master Darque! The tattoed necromancer is back. I can't wait for him to wreak havok on the Valient Universe.

    Nobody sees a flower really; it is so small. We haven't time, and to see takes time - like to have a friend takes time.
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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I bought the Harbinger trade

    it's pretty good!

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    Man of the WavesMan of the Waves Registered User regular
    It's gotten better since that first arc, too!

    The intensity is way up in the current arc.

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    Ronin356Ronin356 Nowhere MORegistered User regular
    edited April 2013
    Shadowman is still pretty awesome for me. I picked up issue 6 and have already reserved it in my hold box at my local comic book shop.

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    Nobody sees a flower really; it is so small. We haven't time, and to see takes time - like to have a friend takes time.
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    redhood4redhood4 Registered User new member
    wasn't a fan of the original Shadowman, love the new one. Bloodshot has been pretty great too.

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    Ronin356Ronin356 Nowhere MORegistered User regular
    edited June 2013
    I'm still reading Shadowman. It has yet to get boring. Looking forward to the new Valiant title..The Eternal Warrior.
    (Well, I couldn't call it new..It was an old valaint title) :P
    http://www.newsarama.com/18153-1st-look-valiant-s-eternal-warrior-1.html

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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Oooh.

    I still can't believe all the people gushing about Shadowman.

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    Man, I have the entire original run of Valiant stuff from my dad's collection. That and Milestone were a huge part of my young comic-reading.

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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Ugh.

    Either you're really young or I'm really old.

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    You're old, man, you're old. I'll never be old!

    Dr. Mirage was also the first comic my sister really got into. She loved the fact that he was immaterial and his wife had to beat everyone up.

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    Ronin356Ronin356 Nowhere MORegistered User regular
    Oooh.

    I still can't believe all the people gushing about Shadowman.

    I know right? Voodoo, Horror, and a superhero that plays the sax? It hits all my sweet spots. I also love the new Shadowman's new look.
    It's not like fandom would ever gush about obscure comic book characters? Right?
    I guess I am the number one fan because I'm his only fan. :) I'm happy he is still around fighting the undead in New Orleans.

    Also: The new Doctor Mirage is a Woman now.

    Nobody sees a flower really; it is so small. We haven't time, and to see takes time - like to have a friend takes time.
    Georgia O'Keeffe
    Be sure to like my Comic Book "Last Words" on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Last-Words-The-Comic-Book/458405034287767
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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Ronin356 wrote: »
    It's not like fandom would ever gush about obscure comic book characters? Right?

    My incredulity is due to the original Shadowman series being a piece of shit.

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    Ronin356Ronin356 Nowhere MORegistered User regular
    edited June 2013
    Ronin356 wrote: »
    It's not like fandom would ever gush about obscure comic book characters? Right?

    My incredulity is due to the original Shadowman series being a piece of shit.

    Fair enough. :This new series is really cool.

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    Nobody sees a flower really; it is so small. We haven't time, and to see takes time - like to have a friend takes time.
    Georgia O'Keeffe
    Be sure to like my Comic Book "Last Words" on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Last-Words-The-Comic-Book/458405034287767
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    mrmrmrmr nameless protagonist Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    As someone who has never read any Valiant characters, can anyone sell me on these? They've just popped up a few times on my Amazon page as recommendations and I've only heard of the characters but know nothing of them. I'm kinda looking to get back to reading from other publishers besides Marvel and DC. From what I've read here it sounds like I'd enjoy Shadowman.

    EDIT: Now that I'm reading up on them on wikipedia and the reviews on amazon (where at least each first trade is less than $10), I'm thinking of trying out either X-O Manowar or Shadowman right away. Harbinger sounds good but I'm not sure I wanna dive into that right away. Thoughts?

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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Harbinger is, IIRC, like X-Men if Xavier was evil and the richest man on Earth.

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    mrmr wrote: »
    As someone who has never read any Valiant characters, can anyone sell me on these? They've just popped up a few times on my Amazon page as recommendations and I've only heard of the characters but know nothing of them. I'm kinda looking to get back to reading from other publishers besides Marvel and DC. From what I've read here it sounds like I'd enjoy Shadowman.

    EDIT: Now that I'm reading up on them on wikipedia and the reviews on amazon (where at least each first trade is less than $10), I'm thinking of trying out either X-O Manowar or Shadowman right away. Harbinger sounds good but I'm not sure I wanna dive into that right away. Thoughts?

    I'd start with Archer and Armstrong. It's got a good Odd Couple thing going on, as well as strong art and character writing. Very fun and accessible.

    Harbinger started off really interesting, with a protagonist that abused his powers, and seemed to be on a slippery slope to villainy. Since then, it's gotten less interesting, and a bit more conventional. But, if you're looking for a book about some superpowered teenagers on a roadtrip, you could do a lot worse.

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    Ronin356Ronin356 Nowhere MORegistered User regular
    edited July 2013
    mrmr wrote: »
    As someone who has never read any Valiant characters, can anyone sell me on these? They've just popped up a few times on my Amazon page as recommendations and I've only heard of the characters but know nothing of them. I'm kinda looking to get back to reading from other publishers besides Marvel and DC. From what I've read here it sounds like I'd enjoy Shadowman.

    EDIT: Now that I'm reading up on them on wikipedia and the reviews on amazon (where at least each first trade is less than $10), I'm thinking of trying out either X-O Manowar or Shadowman right away. Harbinger sounds good but I'm not sure I wanna dive into that right away. Thoughts?

    If you like Horror/Voodoo mixed in with superhero tales, you would like Shadowman.
    The necromancer Master Darque is pretty bad ass both in the old and new VCU ( Valiant Comic Universe)

    Valiant Comics was first founded by Jim Shooter who wrote for both DC and Marvel.
    (Not to mention Jim was a former editior and chief at Marvel Comics.)


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    Man of the WavesMan of the Waves Registered User regular
    There's also Quantum and Woody coming this month (I believe), which looks like crazy fun.

    All of the current books have solid writing and art, with their shares of ups and downs. In all, Valiant's offerings are pretty strong and varied enough for many different tastes.

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    vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    Should I buy Quantum & Woody? I have never once read a Vallant book, but the 3-page preview on Comixology looks fantastic.

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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Sure.

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    Ronin356Ronin356 Nowhere MORegistered User regular
    Should I buy Quantum & Woody? I have never once read a Vallant book, but the 3-page preview on Comixology looks fantastic.

    Go for it! It should be a fun read. I really liked reading them back in their last series.
    Lots of humor and plus Battle Goat.

    Nobody sees a flower really; it is so small. We haven't time, and to see takes time - like to have a friend takes time.
    Georgia O'Keeffe
    Be sure to like my Comic Book "Last Words" on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Last-Words-The-Comic-Book/458405034287767
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    AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
    Quantum and Woody was pretty entertaining! I've never read the previous series, but the new issue has me onboard.

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    MyGfsDogMyGfsDog Registered User regular
    Oh man, Valiant is back?? Boy, do I feel out of the loop. I used to love their comics! I don't live anywhere near a comic shop so it's hard for me to keep up with current publications (haven't been to a real one in a couple of years, sadly). But I will have to try and check out some new Valiant books. They still doing X-O?

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    Ronin356Ronin356 Nowhere MORegistered User regular
    MyGfsDog wrote: »
    Oh man, Valiant is back?? Boy, do I feel out of the loop. I used to love their comics! I don't live anywhere near a comic shop so it's hard for me to keep up with current publications (haven't been to a real one in a couple of years, sadly). But I will have to try and check out some new Valiant books. They still doing X-O?

    Yes..They are doing X-O again and it's up to 12 issues now.
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    Nobody sees a flower really; it is so small. We haven't time, and to see takes time - like to have a friend takes time.
    Georgia O'Keeffe
    Be sure to like my Comic Book "Last Words" on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Last-Words-The-Comic-Book/458405034287767
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    CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    They're a little different than they used to be, though.

    I think that there are some free samples on their site and/or comixology.

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    mrmrmrmr nameless protagonist Registered User regular
    First trade of Shadowman was pretty good. I'm looking forward to getting others :D
    Think I'll go with X-O next.

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    Ronin356Ronin356 Nowhere MORegistered User regular
    edited July 2013
    I really enjoyed reading "Quantum and Woody". The first page is so funny. They are falling from a building and Woody saids "Get out of the way or make sure to break our fall!"

    It made my day for sure.

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    Nobody sees a flower really; it is so small. We haven't time, and to see takes time - like to have a friend takes time.
    Georgia O'Keeffe
    Be sure to like my Comic Book "Last Words" on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Last-Words-The-Comic-Book/458405034287767
    and Magenta the Witchgirl!: http://www.drunkduck.com/Magenta_the_Witchgirl/



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    mrmrmrmr nameless protagonist Registered User regular
    Nabbed the first trades of Bloodshot, X-O, and Harbinger. Bloodshot took a while to click with me, but Harbinger is shaping up to be pretty interesting. Haven't gotten to X-O yet.

    Is the Harbinger Wars story that's going on a true crossover? Like does each issue lead into the next between the books (Harbinger, Bloodshot, Harbinger Wars), or is Harbinger Wars 1-4 a contained story with the other two books involved being tie-ins? If that question makes sense.

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