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had a red velvet donut this weekend
it was good
and despite always thinking of red velvet as "good", probably the first time I've actually thought a red velvet anything was really tasty
If this works, and the Tea Party gets what they want, what is the fucking point of voting on laws anymore?
That's basically why the President's position is "fuck off, you get nothing, give me a clean bill or go home."
Also the only viable solution if you're interested in the continued health and prosperity of the United States of America.
This is the tragedy here. If there is compromise in this fashion, the house and senate are broken in their correct state forever. Nothing can pass so long as the minority isn't happy, and the shutdowns will cripple our capabilities internationally and at home. Look at BBC or any other international news organization, every country watching us is baffled and alarmed. This sort of event is how republics literally have failed and fallen apart over history.
That won't happen to that extent here, not right away, but if this becomes common use than fringe on both sides will start using it every year and that will end the US as we know it.
What we need is the polar opposite of what we have in controlling parties
Mitt Romney in the Oval Office, a republican senate, and a democratic house
democrats are such wheenies they'll never shut anything down
IVE SOLVED BRINKSMANSHIP
We had a Republican president with a weenie Congress for 8 years under Bush and we got the Iraq War, Gitmo, an entire American city lost to a hurricane, and a collapsing economy to top it all off.
Place near my parents' house makes a thing that's basically an apple pie on top of a cheesecake and it is murderously delicious.
I have still not heard anyone from the right make a coherent, rational argument that the shutdown is necessary and will accomplish literally anything, has someone done this and I didn't hear?
(Now I'm gonna have to track down some good pies, cakes and/or waffles this week. Thanks jerks)
Hmm, I have a new tactic to prevent polarization of our government. All politicians are required to eat a slice of delicious pie or cake (their choice) and cuddle a puppy, kitten, or other adorable animal (subject to allergy restrictions) every day before congress is called to order.
If this works, and the Tea Party gets what they want, what is the fucking point of voting on laws anymore?
That's basically why the President's position is "fuck off, you get nothing, give me a clean bill or go home."
Also the only viable solution if you're interested in the continued health and prosperity of the United States of America.
This is the tragedy here. If there is compromise in this fashion, the house and senate are broken in their correct state forever. Nothing can pass so long as the minority isn't happy, and the shutdowns will cripple our capabilities internationally and at home. Look at BBC or any other international news organization, every country watching us is baffled and alarmed. This sort of event is how republics literally have failed and fallen apart over history.
That won't happen to that extent here, not right away, but if this becomes common use than fringe on both sides will start using it every year and that will end the US as we know it.
the larger context is that the U.S. is facing a huge demographic shift while also dealing with globalization head-on. what should be happening is the U.S. valuing high-tech industries and advanced education to compete and lead. instead, we're stuck squabbling on how to fund those efforts less while continuing to watch our infrastructure age and crumble.
you don't need to fund "high-tech industry"
what you need is a business climate that makes it conducive for American companies to compete without having to have a Brinks truck pull up from the US Treasury every month to make payroll
When I read liberals talk about "high-tech", I now assume that's just code for "green energy"
Which I am for, but not the way the Dems want to do it, propping up specific companies. Send that money to Universities, let the foundational research be done there instead of giving it to Elon Musk so he can buy a second mega-yacht.
Arguing against government funding of high tech
on the internet
THE
INTER
NET
The magical tool for wide distribution of information
created by John Galt
with no government involvement whatsoever.
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If this works, and the Tea Party gets what they want, what is the fucking point of voting on laws anymore?
That's basically why the President's position is "fuck off, you get nothing, give me a clean bill or go home."
Also the only viable solution if you're interested in the continued health and prosperity of the United States of America.
This is the tragedy here. If there is compromise in this fashion, the house and senate are broken in their correct state forever. Nothing can pass so long as the minority isn't happy, and the shutdowns will cripple our capabilities internationally and at home. Look at BBC or any other international news organization, every country watching us is baffled and alarmed. This sort of event is how republics literally have failed and fallen apart over history.
That won't happen to that extent here, not right away, but if this becomes common use than fringe on both sides will start using it every year and that will end the US as we know it.
the larger context is that the U.S. is facing a huge demographic shift while also dealing with globalization head-on. what should be happening is the U.S. valuing high-tech industries and advanced education to compete and lead. instead, we're stuck squabbling on how to fund those efforts less while continuing to watch our infrastructure age and crumble.
you don't need to fund "high-tech industry"
what you need is a business climate that makes it conducive for American companies to compete without having to have a Brinks truck pull up from the US Treasury every month to make payroll
When I read liberals talk about "high-tech", I now assume that's just code for "green energy"
Which I am for, but not the way the Dems want to do it, propping up specific companies. Send that money to Universities, let the foundational research be done there instead of giving it to Elon Musk so he can buy a second mega-yacht.
The Republicans hate the NIH, NSF and NASA and try to cripple them at every turn, while the Democrats generally support them. If you are mad at one particular party for shuttling government money to private firms then you are looking in the wrong direction.
If that were the case I would be arguing the exact same point, Jasc. This isn't good governance. It isn't about party, it's about having a functioning government both on Capitol Hill and in your local community. What about the possibility of American collapse due to this don't you understand or agree with, specifically?
Define collapse.
The rapid, permanent, and irreversible shift away from the dollar as a reserve currency and the U.S. as a viable lender of last resort and lender of guaranteed stability, skyrocketing interest rates for U.S. debt and permanently crippled economic potential as world markets refuse to take the U.S. seriously after a minority party intentionally sabotages the world economy because they don't like health care.
The reliability of the dollar and the reliability of debt with the United States Government are absolute cornerstones to not only the national economy, but the world economy as well. What good is FDIC insurance if the promise of funds backed by the full faith and credit of the United States of America is only as good as an obstinate political minority wants it to be?
That's before we get into the gigantic clusterfuck that would ensue if 30-70% of government expenditures just stopped. Aside from the insane economic aftershock such a default would have, you still have the indescribable human catastrophe of every man, woman, and child who is reliant on funds or employment from the United States suddenly having a random allotment of funds somewhere between 0% and 100% with no legal weight or guarantee to either extreme.
So, yeah, collapse as in huge fucking nightmare, end of America as we know it, end of America as the leading world superpower. A replay of the 2008 recession is kind of our best-case scenario, and there's no bottom in sight for worst-case.
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Why do you even respond to Jasc? He's deaconblues 2.0.
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Hey dudes I'm pretty sure there is a real food thread.
Yeah but the real food thread is full of folks talking about ethical fish to eat, and super complicated and expensive recipes, and weird restaurants and shit.
Sometimes a dude just wants to complain about how horrible this spaghetti in a can is (so horrible) and what kind of cake is the most delicious (whatever cake has the most different kinds of chocolate).
Worst case is this could mark the beginning of America losing its status as top of the pile of superpowers, as has happened to every superpower throughout history eventually.
Hey dudes I'm pretty sure there is a real food thread.
Yeah but the real food thread is full of folks talking about ethical fish to eat, and super complicated and expensive recipes, and weird restaurants and shit.
Sometimes a dude just wants to complain about how horrible this spaghetti in a can is (so horrible) and what kind of cake is the most delicious (whatever cake has the most different kinds of chocolate).
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it was good
and despite always thinking of red velvet as "good", probably the first time I've actually thought a red velvet anything was really tasty
you forgot "in an all you can eat buffet"
We had a Republican president with a weenie Congress for 8 years under Bush and we got the Iraq War, Gitmo, an entire American city lost to a hurricane, and a collapsing economy to top it all off.
or a cake stuffed with a pie.
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Yes, pies cakes and waffles
Also they forgot to put bacon somewhere in there.
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(Now I'm gonna have to track down some good pies, cakes and/or waffles this week. Thanks jerks)
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I have still not heard anyone from the right make a coherent, rational argument that the shutdown is necessary and will accomplish literally anything, has someone done this and I didn't hear?
Hmm, I have a new tactic to prevent polarization of our government. All politicians are required to eat a slice of delicious pie or cake (their choice) and cuddle a puppy, kitten, or other adorable animal (subject to allergy restrictions) every day before congress is called to order.
Only took 4 pages to go back to being a food thread
I would rather have delicious food and also important updates about the government thread than grumping about the government 24/7 thread.
Cause I can do that second one just fine by myself.
not even in the obvious way, via chicken
the age old pie vs cake conversation
thinking about the various ways of feeding a sugar addiction is a lot less depressing than thinking about the sorry state of things
Arguing against government funding of high tech
on the internet
THE
INTER
NET
The magical tool for wide distribution of information
created by John Galt
with no government involvement whatsoever.
Thanks for quashing a topic under your cookie-crusted heel.
I have had a live in girlfriend for 3 weeks
Before this I had sugary snacks maybe once a year
In three weeks I think I've eaten 50 cookies
what the shit
just bring it all out, zombies, kaiju, aliens, just get it over with
And Gingrich is saying that its going awesome because they're only hated 10% more than the democrats and not 30 like in the 90s shutdown
Woo
I don't know, all of those things are too extravagant and fun, I'm really enjoying the grey lifeless stupidity of apocalypse via political deadlock
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Ah, no.
The Republicans hate the NIH, NSF and NASA and try to cripple them at every turn, while the Democrats generally support them. If you are mad at one particular party for shuttling government money to private firms then you are looking in the wrong direction.
EDIT: House's not the Senate's.
The rapid, permanent, and irreversible shift away from the dollar as a reserve currency and the U.S. as a viable lender of last resort and lender of guaranteed stability, skyrocketing interest rates for U.S. debt and permanently crippled economic potential as world markets refuse to take the U.S. seriously after a minority party intentionally sabotages the world economy because they don't like health care.
The reliability of the dollar and the reliability of debt with the United States Government are absolute cornerstones to not only the national economy, but the world economy as well. What good is FDIC insurance if the promise of funds backed by the full faith and credit of the United States of America is only as good as an obstinate political minority wants it to be?
That's before we get into the gigantic clusterfuck that would ensue if 30-70% of government expenditures just stopped. Aside from the insane economic aftershock such a default would have, you still have the indescribable human catastrophe of every man, woman, and child who is reliant on funds or employment from the United States suddenly having a random allotment of funds somewhere between 0% and 100% with no legal weight or guarantee to either extreme.
So, yeah, collapse as in huge fucking nightmare, end of America as we know it, end of America as the leading world superpower. A replay of the 2008 recession is kind of our best-case scenario, and there's no bottom in sight for worst-case.
Yeah but the real food thread is full of folks talking about ethical fish to eat, and super complicated and expensive recipes, and weird restaurants and shit.
Sometimes a dude just wants to complain about how horrible this spaghetti in a can is (so horrible) and what kind of cake is the most delicious (whatever cake has the most different kinds of chocolate).
Ughhhhhh.
Actually, wait, don't. I'd like to be able to sleep tonight, and that's already in jeopardy.
Do you even lift, Obama?
I'll tell you what cake isn't delicious.
Brussels Sprout cake.