Madpandasuburbs west of chicagoRegistered Userregular
edited December 2013
Seriously considering using a forma on the gram if I had enough melee mods to utilize it, love the damage and its new model is kickin rad.
What's the general mission progression? I've got a few frames at 30 (excalibur, rhino, nova, ash soon) a few at teens (loki, valkyrie) and a bunch of 30 weapons. What point can I start doing nitemares? I have them unlocked on a few of the maps and just realized they dont need the keys, what about the vault missions?
Right now i've just been clearing out the map to put extractors down in areas I need stuff, or just chain running xini.
I haven't bothered to try using it lately, but going by the numbers I don't think the boltor is actually worth getting now. The whole reason it was any good before was that it did armor ignoring damage, but now that damage 2.0 is a thing, "armor ignore" doesn't exist as a concept anymore. Without that special feature to give it an edge, the boltor's low base dps, slow projectiles and long reload time make for yet another worthless gun.
It does give you high-puncture automatic fire (ie, useful against grineer). The only other options for automatic high-puncture damage are the Furis/Afuris, Cestra and research weapons.
All other puncture-focused weapons are singe fire.
Does anyone know what the masterylevel is on the cestra?
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zllehsHiding in a box, waiting to strike.Registered Userregular
Boltor, I want to like the Latron and haven't tried it since 2.0 but that thing was awful before then.
Boltor's good for basic stuff, Paris is okay if you want something different, new bow may be good I dunno, Vectis for overkill, Hek's okay for leveling, Soma when you're at Mastery Rank 6.
Also Kunai, Sicarus, Lex for sidearms.
And Gram/Galantine/Orthos are good melee, what mastery rank are you right now?
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FreiA French Prometheus UnboundDeadwoodRegistered Userregular
The Latron was never awful.
Sobek is awesome, yeah. Really like that gun high magazine size and still good damage. Can you make some weapons yet? You might try out the Dera, I've been having fun with that. The Supra is also ridiculously good but I think it's a higher mastery rank than 4. For sidearms you may want to try the Cestra, it's like a pocket laser minigun and a lot of fun to use. It's also puncture damage which is probably the best damage type right now.
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I fully accept the fact that the Strun is the 3rd best shotgun in the game but I'm not really looking for another one
Considering the fact that my only other primary is the MK1 Bratron I'm really looking for a servicable medium-long range rifle
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FreiA French Prometheus UnboundDeadwoodRegistered Userregular
Anyway, like I mentioned earlier:
Since we can trade now, we should list spares of stuff we have and stuff we may be looking for so we can help one another out.
I'm on PC. I have:
Continuity
Flow
Infected Clip
Cryo Rounds
Rifle Ammo Mutation
Serration
Sniper Ammo Mutation
Hornet Strike
I'm looking for Hell's Chamber and Stormbringer currently, along with any of the nightmare mods cause I haven't done any of those yet.
I fully accept the fact that the Strun is the 3rd best shotgun in the game but I'm not really looking for another one
Considering the fact that my only other primary is the MK1 Bratron I'm really looking for a servicable medium-long range rifle
Latron Burstron or Hind, the last of which is really expensive to make. Experiment with what you like. I can't speak to any of them unfortunately, i went into from bratrons to the pre 2.0 boltor to shotguns and grakata.
Took the soma out, good lord, got it up to rank 10 after a good xini run and slapped crit damage + and crit chance + in it and I already see this thing getting mean.
So, in 3 days I will have built Mag Prime, Ember, Nova, and Valkyr. I will own every frame except Ember Prime, Vauban, Excalibur Prime, Loki, and Frost. I started a week ago.
I fully accept the fact that the Strun is the 3rd best shotgun in the game but I'm not really looking for another one
Considering the fact that my only other primary is the MK1 Bratron I'm really looking for a servicable medium-long range rifle
Vectis would be my weapon of choice for medium-long range. Very powerful. Get a maxed quick-reload mod on it and never look back. Properly modded it will work at any difficulty level and be an asset against any foe. It pairs very well with the Kunai as it excels at long range where the Kunai are more difficult to use.
Can also be used at any range as a slow-firing OHK gun if fired from the hip.
Braton, Latron, Burston are all decent long range alternatives (but decidedly less powerful IMHO).
Latron is more of a Grineer specialist though.
At a higher rank the Soma is the best rifle in the game (at any range really), but it's Mastery Rank 6.
P.S: Has anyone tried the Vulkar? It looks like a pretty neat anti-corpus rifle these days.
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-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
The Snipetron is from before my warframe days, so I really can't say.
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
Snipetron Prime felt downright busted when they released it.
Wonder how it and Vectis fare after Damage 2.0, I'm not finding very compelling reasons to give a shit about physical damage these days.
vectis is all electrical now, wonder if you can pull the same tricks you do with the synapse
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
Oh in that case it is probably awesome.
Corrosive and Magnetic are probably the two best general purpose damage types, and they both combine off of Electric. Just slap a Toxic or Cold mod on there depending on Grineer or Corpus and you're good to go.
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FreiA French Prometheus UnboundDeadwoodRegistered Userregular
vectis is all electrical now, wonder if you can pull the same tricks you do with the synapse
Vectis is exactly zero percent electrical.
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
edited December 2013
Okay so now I have no idea
EDIT: Okay looking it up on the wiki Vectis has 50 higher base damage than Vandaltron, which means it is better for elemental damage. The physical damage is more evenly spread, which is good and bad. Vandaltron is almost entirely puncture damage.
I'd probably go with Vectis just for more elemental damage off the higher base damage.
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Lanka has that shitty charge time, so it is still kind of bad. Base 250 Electric damage is really nice, but it's straight up not worth a 1.5 second charge time per shot.
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FreiA French Prometheus UnboundDeadwoodRegistered Userregular
if you have charged chamber along with the other rifle mods, vectis is going to be one shotting most things all day long anyway. they were basically made for one another.
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Madpandasuburbs west of chicagoRegistered Userregular
Do i need to do something special to craft the reasearch weapons?
I'm rank 6. I've got all parts for the ignis, including the detonite injectors made, but it still has a red x and craft is greyed out. I got the BP as a drop or login reward so i rebought it from the clan dojo and its still the same story. I was able to craft the corpus shock prod fine.
Do i need to do something special to craft the reasearch weapons?
I'm rank 6. I've got all parts for the ignis, including the detonite injectors made, but it still has a red x and craft is greyed out. I got the BP as a drop or login reward so i rebought it from the clan dojo and its still the same story. I was able to craft the corpus shock prod fine.
That sounds weird... do you have a screenshot? It should say so if anything is missing. No idea what it looks like when you're not a high enough mastery rank to build something you have the blueprint for, or if that's even possible... Do you have the Forma you need to build it? Most if not all clan gear requires at least one Forma to build.
Do i need to do something special to craft the reasearch weapons?
I'm rank 6. I've got all parts for the ignis, including the detonite injectors made, but it still has a red x and craft is greyed out. I got the BP as a drop or login reward so i rebought it from the clan dojo and its still the same story. I was able to craft the corpus shock prod fine.
Pretty sure you need to be at rank 7 to craft the research weapons. The interface is not very clear about this.
Do i need to do something special to craft the reasearch weapons?
I'm rank 6. I've got all parts for the ignis, including the detonite injectors made, but it still has a red x and craft is greyed out. I got the BP as a drop or login reward so i rebought it from the clan dojo and its still the same story. I was able to craft the corpus shock prod fine.
Pretty sure you need to be at rank 7 to craft the research weapons. The interface is not very clear about this.
It varies, Ignis requires only Mastery rank 4, for example. The Prova is even only 3 if I'm not mistaken.
Dang this game is fun, I barely even use my guns and powers, I just spin dash fools to death with my awesome Orthos. I really need to stop farming the same missions though, need to unlock everything for those sweet alerts. But I need to level up my new frames and weapons! The eternal dilemma!
worst part of the game: when people act like assholes when you get lost. It's not my fault the objective marker doesn't indicate altitude. Not all of us have memorized the maps.
It's not my fault the objective marker doesn't indicate altitude.
But it does? There's a white arrow pointing up or down if it's above or below you.
I never noticed an arrow....
Quick question: according to the wiki, it's better for Volt to have longer power duration than power strength. Why? And is that the case for all frames? Right now I have the Storm helmet on mine. I'll buy the Focus helmet if there's a significant advantage re: duration over strength.
It's not my fault the objective marker doesn't indicate altitude.
But it does? There's a white arrow pointing up or down if it's above or below you.
I never noticed an arrow....
Quick question: according to the wiki, it's better for Volt to have longer power duration than power strength. Why? And is that the case for all frames? Right now I have the Storm helmet on mine. I'll buy the Focus helmet if there's a significant advantage re: duration over strength.
Pretty sure the wikis outdated. Used to be, speed (faster melee attacks, speedrunning) and electric shield (armor ignore) were his best abilities, with shock and overload becomming exponentially useless with growing enemy levels. Now? Not so much, they do really good damage up to high levels even in Tier III survival.
It depends on the frame - different powers are affected by power mods in different ways, e.g. iirc power duration does nothing for Nova's Prime and Antimatter Drop, but makes wormholes last longer and increases the number of spheres on Null Star. So it completely depends on your build what's effective.
The wiki recommendations should always be taken with a grain of salt anyway, because while hard data is usually updated pretty quickly, best practices are sometimes months out of date.
So I got an Amphis, and it isn't sending dudes flying like it did in the videos I saw! So disappointing. Guess I'll need a Fragor for my Rhino after all.
[edit] The wiki says the Fragor causes status effects 100% on the downward swings, is this still accurate? I might get a Scindo instead if it isn't.
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
Updated roster, my Mag Prime will be finished in about two days now.
Still not even remotely close to making Ember Prime, because Void drop tables are fucking awful. (Remember when I was talking about Void drops tables months ago? Yep, I guess DE didn't realize yet.)
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What's the general mission progression? I've got a few frames at 30 (excalibur, rhino, nova, ash soon) a few at teens (loki, valkyrie) and a bunch of 30 weapons. What point can I start doing nitemares? I have them unlocked on a few of the maps and just realized they dont need the keys, what about the vault missions?
Right now i've just been clearing out the map to put extractors down in areas I need stuff, or just chain running xini.
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All other puncture-focused weapons are singe fire.
Does anyone know what the masterylevel is on the cestra?
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Just turned 4
Using a Vauban, Strun, Kunai, and Scindo
Want to replace the strun right now
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Sobek is awesome, yeah. Really like that gun high magazine size and still good damage. Can you make some weapons yet? You might try out the Dera, I've been having fun with that. The Supra is also ridiculously good but I think it's a higher mastery rank than 4. For sidearms you may want to try the Cestra, it's like a pocket laser minigun and a lot of fun to use. It's also puncture damage which is probably the best damage type right now.
Considering the fact that my only other primary is the MK1 Bratron I'm really looking for a servicable medium-long range rifle
Since we can trade now, we should list spares of stuff we have and stuff we may be looking for so we can help one another out.
I'm on PC. I have:
Continuity
Flow
Infected Clip
Cryo Rounds
Rifle Ammo Mutation
Serration
Sniper Ammo Mutation
Hornet Strike
I'm looking for Hell's Chamber and Stormbringer currently, along with any of the nightmare mods cause I haven't done any of those yet.
You didn't get the normal Braton? Get that one, it's so much better than the MK1. Servicable up til the outer planets.
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Latron Burstron or Hind, the last of which is really expensive to make. Experiment with what you like. I can't speak to any of them unfortunately, i went into from bratrons to the pre 2.0 boltor to shotguns and grakata.
Took the soma out, good lord, got it up to rank 10 after a good xini run and slapped crit damage + and crit chance + in it and I already see this thing getting mean.
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4th actually.
strun wraith>sobek>hek>strun>boar
like, 8th if you include the sweeper and pistol shotguns
I need to farm more, I need Frost.
Vectis would be my weapon of choice for medium-long range. Very powerful. Get a maxed quick-reload mod on it and never look back. Properly modded it will work at any difficulty level and be an asset against any foe. It pairs very well with the Kunai as it excels at long range where the Kunai are more difficult to use.
Can also be used at any range as a slow-firing OHK gun if fired from the hip.
Braton, Latron, Burston are all decent long range alternatives (but decidedly less powerful IMHO).
Latron is more of a Grineer specialist though.
At a higher rank the Soma is the best rifle in the game (at any range really), but it's Mastery Rank 6.
P.S: Has anyone tried the Vulkar? It looks like a pretty neat anti-corpus rifle these days.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Wonder how it and Vectis fare after Damage 2.0, I'm not finding very compelling reasons to give a shit about physical damage these days.
Corrosive and Magnetic are probably the two best general purpose damage types, and they both combine off of Electric. Just slap a Toxic or Cold mod on there depending on Grineer or Corpus and you're good to go.
Vectis is exactly zero percent electrical.
EDIT: Okay looking it up on the wiki Vectis has 50 higher base damage than Vandaltron, which means it is better for elemental damage. The physical damage is more evenly spread, which is good and bad. Vandaltron is almost entirely puncture damage.
I'd probably go with Vectis just for more elemental damage off the higher base damage.
Those sound a lot more frightening than the current sound!
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I'm rank 6. I've got all parts for the ignis, including the detonite injectors made, but it still has a red x and craft is greyed out. I got the BP as a drop or login reward so i rebought it from the clan dojo and its still the same story. I was able to craft the corpus shock prod fine.
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That sounds weird... do you have a screenshot? It should say so if anything is missing. No idea what it looks like when you're not a high enough mastery rank to build something you have the blueprint for, or if that's even possible... Do you have the Forma you need to build it? Most if not all clan gear requires at least one Forma to build.
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It varies, Ignis requires only Mastery rank 4, for example. The Prova is even only 3 if I'm not mistaken.
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I never noticed an arrow....
Quick question: according to the wiki, it's better for Volt to have longer power duration than power strength. Why? And is that the case for all frames? Right now I have the Storm helmet on mine. I'll buy the Focus helmet if there's a significant advantage re: duration over strength.
Pretty sure the wikis outdated. Used to be, speed (faster melee attacks, speedrunning) and electric shield (armor ignore) were his best abilities, with shock and overload becomming exponentially useless with growing enemy levels. Now? Not so much, they do really good damage up to high levels even in Tier III survival.
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The wiki recommendations should always be taken with a grain of salt anyway, because while hard data is usually updated pretty quickly, best practices are sometimes months out of date.
Unreal Engine 4 Developers Community.
I'm working on a cute little video game! Here's a link for you.
[edit] The wiki says the Fragor causes status effects 100% on the downward swings, is this still accurate? I might get a Scindo instead if it isn't.
Still not even remotely close to making Ember Prime, because Void drop tables are fucking awful. (Remember when I was talking about Void drops tables months ago? Yep, I guess DE didn't realize yet.)