I am deathly afraid it is going to be Wendy Oldbag.
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It's the only reason why the ??? Combined with the "unknown tone" still scares the shit out of me.
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Dual Destinies spoilers
I actually had overcome my fear of Oldbag, until they mentioned a female witness in the last case, thank god that wasn't her.
... Oh no, I have a new location to go to in the DLC case, that's going to weigh on me
the idea that blackquill is such a good prosecutor they have to let him keep on prosecuting even after he's been convicted of murder is as far as i am concerned an all-time phoenix wright high
Black quill being a prosecutor broke the internalized "rules" for how their messed up world works.
Phoenix being disbarred is, if anything, less congruous with internalized Ace Attorney rules than Blackquill not getting disbarred. Because the internalized rules allow Phoenix to submit totally unverified evidence that he just so happens to have independently discovered all the time even though that should be super-illegal in all circumstances. If the court is that lenient, it doesn't make much sense for him to be disbarred because his hopelessly unverifiable evidence happened to have been forged by somebody else without his knowledge one time. There's no established precedent over whether or not prosecutors get disbarred for committing crimes not related to lawyering (other than common sense, but that's a wash in Ace Attorney land).
Phew. I finally finished DD and can at last come to this thread without worrying about spoilers..
Non-spoiler discussion: I think the backgrounds are some of the best use of 3D I've seen on the 3ds yet -- I spent a fair while in case 2 just looking at the little bits of animation, so pretty, and they managed to get enough depth to be 3d without making my eyes hurt. (also, the pans around the courtroom look pretty cool).
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Black quill being a prosecutor broke the internalized "rules" for how their messed up world works.
Phoenix being disbarred is, if anything, less congruous with internalized Ace Attorney rules than Blackquill not getting disbarred. Because the internalized rules allow Phoenix to submit totally unverified evidence that he just so happens to have independently discovered all the time even though that should be super-illegal in all circumstances. If the court is that lenient, it doesn't make much sense for him to be disbarred because his hopelessly unverifiable evidence happened to have been forged by somebody else without his knowledge one time. There's no established precedent over whether or not prosecutors get disbarred for committing crimes not related to lawyering (other than common sense, but that's a wash in Ace Attorney land).
It was poetic justice. PW always flew by the seat of his pants, but he could verify his evidence one way or the other. This was evidence that had just been handed to him out of the blue, not evidence he had found. It makes perfect sense why he got disbarred for trying to introduce it.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
General -- it's neat seeing the 3d models from multiple directions and how well they match to the sprite versions. Also cool when
the various people we've only seen from the side are on the stand and we see them face-on.
Case 5. Maybe it's just because it's freshest in my head, but the case 4 -> case 5 transition and the way it all plays out is one of my favorite bits so far; there's a lot of awesome setup that really pays off in the end.
Pearls? Feh, I don't care about her, if you're going to bring someone back, bring Edgeworth.
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about one minute later
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Oh, hell YES.
I only worked out it was Fullbright about three or four lines of dialog ahead of the characters, embarrassingly -- I'd even gone through everyone in my head before to try and work out who it could be, but forgot that he was there 7 years ago so had eliminated him and thought they'd be about to pull a new character out of thin air or something.
Finale:
When ??? took the mask off and it was Starbuck underneath, I was totally thrown off and started thinking "wait, did we ever see Starbuck and Fullbright at the same time? This is the most insane twist I have seen yet", until it turned out to just be a second mask. Phoenix -vs- Phoenix? was pretty awesome.
And I liked how in retrospect, as Fullbright, he'd always been over-emoting to a ridiculous extent.
I was totally hoping, under all the masks, it would be Larry Butz.
Favorite moment from cases 4/5:
Blackquill: Haaannnnnngggghhhh..
Second favorite moment:
When ??? just gives up trying to keep his spoken emotions in line with his physically expressed emotions to a pretty sarcastic extent
Case 4: I actually replayed the end of case 1 to see if I'd missed anything from Tonate that would give more background as to what had been going on, because I'd forgotten that he was just selling bomb pieces to make money.
Case 2:
I was initially pretty confused by how similarly-shaped Fullbright and L'Belle's heads were..
End credits, Filch claims to be an alderman -- I thought "hey, nice work, guy!", then..
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This game was a lot better with the mystery element. Especially compared to the first game sandbagging and handholding you all the time, the system to allow you to ask for help and be able to proceed without it is fantastic.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Phew. I finally finished DD and can at last come to this thread without worrying about spoilers..
Non-spoiler discussion: I think the backgrounds are some of the best use of 3D I've seen on the 3ds yet -- I spent a fair while in case 2 just looking at the little bits of animation, so pretty, and they managed to get enough depth to be 3d without making my eyes hurt. (also, the pans around the courtroom look pretty cool).
If you loved the environments then the DLC case has some very nice ones.
Just finished the DLC, and now there is no more Phoenix Wright for me unless I go back and replay the originals, boo.
Interesting snippet from a bit of dialogue where Athena says (something like) "Phoenix helped me out when I got into trouble in Europe", which hopefully means that case will be coming out as more DLC. And
THE DISSIN' OF PHOENIX WRIGHT
is definitely one of my favourite final-confrontation-with-the-bad-guy sequences.
Okay, this is twice now that I've presented evidence on a specific statement and been given a penalty, only to find out later that it was the correct thing to do (from a guide or the consult option), and only then it works. Happened on case 3 and now case 4.
Presenting the ashes of a flag for "what moved the blood" and presenting the bomb report on the statement about taking the elevator.
Both times it was my first choice of evidence and statements, and both times it said no and then worked later. Maybe I'm pressing the button in a weird way that taps one of the other evidence icons before the objection triggers? This has never happened in any other Ace Attorney game I've played. Really frustrating.
edit: On a brighter note, the new Miiverse update lets you post screenshots. Just pause the game and go to the Miiverse page for the game, and you'll get an option to include the top or bottom screen from the paused game. I wish that had been an option a little earlier, there were a lot of great out-of-context moments I wish I had captured. Like Trucy talking about fresh cookies.
GSM on
We'll get back there someday.
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every time trucy refers to phoenix as her daddy i cringe
there's a part early in the game where she talks about filling her panties for her daddy and i'm just like, okay, do the japanese really not pick up on this stuff
While I agree that the panty jokes are dumb and creepy, I really don't see the issue with her calling Phoenix "daddy."
Like, he adopted her. That is legally what he is to her.
I really love how Phoenix has grown from the start of the series. It feels right for him to be a father/boss.
It's still way too jarring for me. Like, phoenix grew through games 1-3, but game 4 and 5 he's just become a boss all of a sudden without enough in between.
Also does the game become more of a "Game" at some point? I'm almost done w/case 3, and it feels like the game's just taking my hand and leading me around way more than past games.
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Oh good, somebody took that screencap I was talking about.
The best was watching it type out the line, because it reads normal until the very end. And then it gets weird really quickly.
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Finished the DLC case
Big Spoilers
I think I was slightly spoiled on the two orcas thing before I started the case (and the whole 'Orla/Ora' thing from the start raised an eyebrow), but 'THERE ARE 2 DIFFERENT ORCAS' was still a great moment, god I love Resonance of the Synapses sections. I think this is also the first case where the victim's death was accidental (3-4 still involves stabbing) and Rimes is rehabilitated rather than ambiguously given the death penalty. And his breakdown was great, too.
Overall I quite enjoyed it. I feel like less people got the DLC, is that the case? (Obviously don't quote this post because of the spoilers)
Everyone's been saying they thought it was Fulbright due to process of elimination. But until Athena says it was a man that she stabbed, there is definitely one other suspect involved with everything.
I was sure it was going to be Juniper in the ultra twist.
I know that you have the psych profile by that point, and Athena had already done her thing on Juniper, but I figured she could've been faking the emotions, since they didn't say he couldn't feel emotions until you're already cross-examining him.
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I am deathly afraid it is going to be Wendy Oldbag.
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... Oh no, I have a new location to go to in the DLC case, that's going to weigh on me
it's still great
I'm always afraid it's not
objection!
music starts
then stops
then everyone ignores me
Phoenix being disbarred is, if anything, less congruous with internalized Ace Attorney rules than Blackquill not getting disbarred. Because the internalized rules allow Phoenix to submit totally unverified evidence that he just so happens to have independently discovered all the time even though that should be super-illegal in all circumstances. If the court is that lenient, it doesn't make much sense for him to be disbarred because his hopelessly unverifiable evidence happened to have been forged by somebody else without his knowledge one time. There's no established precedent over whether or not prosecutors get disbarred for committing crimes not related to lawyering (other than common sense, but that's a wash in Ace Attorney land).
Non-spoiler discussion: I think the backgrounds are some of the best use of 3D I've seen on the 3ds yet -- I spent a fair while in case 2 just looking at the little bits of animation, so pretty, and they managed to get enough depth to be 3d without making my eyes hurt. (also, the pans around the courtroom look pretty cool).
It was poetic justice. PW always flew by the seat of his pants, but he could verify his evidence one way or the other. This was evidence that had just been handed to him out of the blue, not evidence he had found. It makes perfect sense why he got disbarred for trying to introduce it.
Case 5. Maybe it's just because it's freshest in my head, but the case 4 -> case 5 transition and the way it all plays out is one of my favorite bits so far; there's a lot of awesome setup that really pays off in the end.
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about one minute later
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Oh, hell YES.
And I liked how in retrospect, as Fullbright, he'd always been over-emoting to a ridiculous extent.
Blackquill: Haaannnnnngggghhhh..
Second favorite moment:
Case 4: I actually replayed the end of case 1 to see if I'd missed anything from Tonate that would give more background as to what had been going on, because I'd forgotten that he was just selling bomb pieces to make money.
Case 2:
I was initially pretty confused by how similarly-shaped Fullbright and L'Belle's heads were..
If you loved the environments then the DLC case has some very nice ones.
Hmm, "Victim wrote this name ergo they are guilty" again. It would be a helluva twist if that was played straight.
Maybe it's because I'm coming off AA1, but the Trial Music isn't very good, especially "Pursuit".
(oh, and you're right, the backgrounds _are_ very nice)
Interesting snippet from a bit of dialogue where Athena says (something like) "Phoenix helped me out when I got into trouble in Europe", which hopefully means that case will be coming out as more DLC. And
is definitely one of my favourite final-confrontation-with-the-bad-guy sequences.
......who is on vacation"
PHEWWW
Yeaaaaaah about that.
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edit: On a brighter note, the new Miiverse update lets you post screenshots. Just pause the game and go to the Miiverse page for the game, and you'll get an option to include the top or bottom screen from the paused game. I wish that had been an option a little earlier, there were a lot of great out-of-context moments I wish I had captured. Like Trucy talking about fresh cookies.
This was one of those comics where I was laughing for like five minutes straight, and then I re-read it several more times and kept laughing.
there's a part early in the game where she talks about filling her panties for her daddy and i'm just like, okay, do the japanese really not pick up on this stuff
Like, he adopted her. That is legally what he is to her.
It really sums up the game.
I really love how Phoenix has grown from the start of the series. It feels right for him to be a father/boss.
It's still way too jarring for me. Like, phoenix grew through games 1-3, but game 4 and 5 he's just become a boss all of a sudden without enough in between.
Also does the game become more of a "Game" at some point? I'm almost done w/case 3, and it feels like the game's just taking my hand and leading me around way more than past games.
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The best was watching it type out the line, because it reads normal until the very end. And then it gets weird really quickly.
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Overall I quite enjoyed it. I feel like less people got the DLC, is that the case? (Obviously don't quote this post because of the spoilers)
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I was sure it was going to be Juniper in the ultra twist.
I know that you have the psych profile by that point, and Athena had already done her thing on Juniper, but I figured she could've been faking the emotions, since they didn't say he couldn't feel emotions until you're already cross-examining him.
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But what we got was great, so I'm not complaining.
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this whole time i've been thinking it's some kind of weird monster thing with glasses and a massive underbite
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It's Yu being suplexed by Aigis.
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