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    ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    why should I not use the admin account

    less secure if you're operating from something with full root privileges

    you get a virus, virus gets to be a super user

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    I said it late last night, but Gone Home is a spectacular experience, even if it's not really a game, and is worth the 90 minutes of your time and 6-10 bucks it costs. I want to support projects like this in hopes that they find mainstream appeal.

    I have been told that I should play that.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Don't worry, Syndalis. We're all well aware of your stances on things. :D


    Unrelated:

    How dare you, unnamed vendor, actually check to see if I have permission and authorization to do what I'm requesting and fuck up my client's network! Requiring the middleman who we bought the data circuit from to be on the call.. silly man! :/

    (I love seeing organizations that take authentication and proper change control seriously. I actually enjoy going through the proper red tape, as it provides a layer of CYA. :D )

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    you don't want to use the only admin account as your main account because if you get a virus that fucks with privileges or whatever you're basically screwed

    but i think you have to intend to use the admin account on win 7, and if you didn't intend to, you probably aren't

    Yeah but it takes some work to get autologin on win7, too. IIRC, all my machines are 8, now.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
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    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Syndalis also feels you should buy an apple product.

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    Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    i need lunch

    poo
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    ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    some OEMs encourage users to use the Administrator account

    some company laptops seem set up to do so, too

    well it's probably a good idea to set a password for it in those situations but not to actually use it unless shit goes down

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    thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    Basically, to the software pilot argument, I'd say we don't need pilots any more. The HMI should be simplified to a set of read-only status windows with minimal inputs. You want to pilot a plane? Get yourself in a small single or twin-prop. Otherwise, the computer is going to do a better job of it than you will, and for more than 98% of the time. If the auto-pilot of a particular make was statistically proven to fail in 2% of emergency cases, all of those planes would be grounded indefinitely until a new software patch was applied to improve reliability.

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    Cinders wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    I said it late last night, but Gone Home is a spectacular experience, even if it's not really a game, and is worth the 90 minutes of your time and 6-10 bucks it costs. I want to support projects like this in hopes that they find mainstream appeal.

    I have been told that I should play that.

    Absolutely. It starts like a creepy ghost story, and becomes... Well, just play it.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Basically, to the software pilot argument, I'd say we don't need pilots any more. The HMI should be simplified to a set of read-only status windows with minimal inputs. You want to pilot a plane? Get yourself in a small single or twin-prop. Otherwise, the computer is going to do a better job of it than you will, and for more than 98% of the time. If the auto-pilot of a particular make was statistically proven to fail in 2% of emergency cases, all of those planes would be grounded indefinitely until a new software patch was applied to improve reliability.

    While probably true, you'll need a person on-board to look like a human pilot or the passengers will flip out.

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    you don't want to use the only admin account as your main account because if you get a virus that fucks with privileges or whatever you're basically screwed

    but i think you have to intend to use the admin account on win 7, and if you didn't intend to, you probably aren't

    Yeah but it takes some work to get autologin on win7, too. IIRC, all my machines are 8, now.

    nah you just don't set a password, or like chu did, don't check the "require password at login" when he goes and makes a password

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    I've spent hours trying to decipher just what this administrative agency is accusing my client of doing and I'm not any closer to figuring it out.

    My read: they just don't like my client. Which doesn't necessarily equal an actionable violation, so I've got that going for me.

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    there seems to be a Thing where the hidden Administrator gets even more privs than a mere user with administrator privileges

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    Thermal inherface meterial

    Thermal cumpound

    that was a stretch even by my standards

    wait...

    you have standards?

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    BethrynBethryn Unhappiness is Mandatory Registered User regular
    edited December 2013
    Apparently Zachary Quinto has a habit of pointing when posing for pictures, just to make them that little bit creepier.

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    Bethryn on
    ...and of course, as always, Kill Hitler.
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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    isn't there always an underlying hidden Administrator account

    Yes, it's the Windows version of root.
    ronya wrote: »
    some OEMs encourage users to use the Administrator account

    some company laptops seem set up to do so, too

    The main reason why is because there are some legacy apps that don't play nice if you put them in a sandbox. It's still a dumb idea, especially now that Windows has its own version of sudo.

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    cptruggedcptrugged I think it has something to do with free will. Registered User regular
    Basically, to the software pilot argument, I'd say we don't need pilots any more. The HMI should be simplified to a set of read-only status windows with minimal inputs. You want to pilot a plane? Get yourself in a small single or twin-prop. Otherwise, the computer is going to do a better job of it than you will, and for more than 98% of the time. If the auto-pilot of a particular make was statistically proven to fail in 2% of emergency cases, all of those planes would be grounded indefinitely until a new software patch was applied to improve reliability.

    Thank you for your input Dr. Dyson. We'll be sure to put serious consideration into your automated piloting solution. Why, this may even have some military applications!

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    Cinders wrote: »
    Syndalis also feels you should buy an apple product.

    An apple for your phone, an apple for your tablet, an apple for your laptop, and an xbawks for your gaming.

    Desktop PC is a bit more flexible depending on needs, but if cash is absolutely no worry for you and the sky is the limit on budget, the new Mac Pro is so sexy. Like, I cannot even comprehend the sexiness of that machine. And it's a beast without being big and ugly.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Ah, McDonald's is shutting down their employee help website. The website that told them not to eat fast food because fast food is unhealthy.

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Basically, to the software pilot argument, I'd say we don't need pilots any more. The HMI should be simplified to a set of read-only status windows with minimal inputs. You want to pilot a plane? Get yourself in a small single or twin-prop. Otherwise, the computer is going to do a better job of it than you will, and for more than 98% of the time. If the auto-pilot of a particular make was statistically proven to fail in 2% of emergency cases, all of those planes would be grounded indefinitely until a new software patch was applied to improve reliability.

    hmmm I don't think so

    there's still ample space for good-weather "look out of the window" assessment of the situation, or all-weather communication with the tower, computers are not yet well-placed to handle that kind of data processing

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Basically, to the software pilot argument, I'd say we don't need pilots any more. The HMI should be simplified to a set of read-only status windows with minimal inputs. You want to pilot a plane? Get yourself in a small single or twin-prop. Otherwise, the computer is going to do a better job of it than you will, and for more than 98% of the time. If the auto-pilot of a particular make was statistically proven to fail in 2% of emergency cases, all of those planes would be grounded indefinitely until a new software patch was applied to improve reliability.

    You can't exhaustively test for every possibility.

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    TaminTamin Registered User regular
    Neco wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    on a rewatch of Charmed and I'm noticing a few moments, in the first few seasons, that are oddly prescient

    though I'm not sure exactly when the decision to
    fire Shannen Doherty occurred

    so some of it might be intentional foreshadowing instead of accidental.

    I was watching that show recently on Netflix, and assuming what I read was true, her being fired was rather sudden.

    Incidentally, I lost all interest in the show after she left. :P

    heh

    she was never the draw for me

    I'd keep watching, Rose McGowan does a great job imo

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    I used to make an account named LocalAdmin on my 7 machines, then use Aioua (also an admin), just in case my profile got corrupted. Trying to enable the machine admin account when there are no users you can log into is not fun.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    Basically, to the software pilot argument, I'd say we don't need pilots any more. The HMI should be simplified to a set of read-only status windows with minimal inputs. You want to pilot a plane? Get yourself in a small single or twin-prop. Otherwise, the computer is going to do a better job of it than you will, and for more than 98% of the time. If the auto-pilot of a particular make was statistically proven to fail in 2% of emergency cases, all of those planes would be grounded indefinitely until a new software patch was applied to improve reliability.

    While probably true, you'll need a person on-board to look like a human pilot or the passengers will flip out.

    Yeah, i'm on board with that. Basically, the pilot is replaced by what we'd call an "operator". Someone to provide boots-on-the-ground diagnostics to a central tower (like Ground Control for NASA), play grabass with any attractive flight attendants, and smile and wave at the passengers.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    @Tarranon gifter of things, has made the owner of Hotline Miami. Yes, that I am.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    Basically, to the software pilot argument, I'd say we don't need pilots any more. The HMI should be simplified to a set of read-only status windows with minimal inputs. You want to pilot a plane? Get yourself in a small single or twin-prop. Otherwise, the computer is going to do a better job of it than you will, and for more than 98% of the time. If the auto-pilot of a particular make was statistically proven to fail in 2% of emergency cases, all of those planes would be grounded indefinitely until a new software patch was applied to improve reliability.

    While probably true, you'll need a person on-board to look like a human pilot or the passengers will flip out.

    Yeah, i'm on board with that. Basically, the pilot is replaced by what we'd call an "operator". Someone to provide boots-on-the-ground diagnostics to a central tower (like Ground Control for NASA), play grabass with any attractive flight attendants, and smile and wave at the passengers.

    also go "no, computer, this is the ocean and not the runway, no matter what that instrument is telling you" on occasion

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited December 2013
    I wonder whether windows 8 finally introduced a native way to request escalation in the command prompt

    (no, powershell does not count)

    ronya on
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    ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    I don't understand how we live in a world where people are rewatching Charmed without any sense of irony or shame

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    @Tarranon gifter of things, has made the owner of Hotline Miami. Yes, that I am.

    so goooood

    brutal.

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    jmcdonaldjmcdonald I voted, did you? DC(ish)Registered User regular
    Bethryn wrote: »
    Apparently Zachary Quinto has a habit of pointing when posing for pictures, just to make them that little bit creepier.

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    "Tonight. You."

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    edited December 2013
    Variable wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    @Tarranon gifter of things, has made the owner of Hotline Miami. Yes, that I am.

    so goooood

    brutal.

    Best Murder Simulator set to thumpin' 80s beats ever.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    I wonder whether windows 8 finally introduced a native way to request escalation in the command prompt

    (no, powershell does not count)

    Why not? Powershell is supposed to replace that outdated piece of junk called cmd.exe.

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    I wonder whether windows 8 finally introduced a native way to request escalation in the command prompt

    (no, powershell does not count)

    Pretty sure no, because UAC.

    You can, however, launch PS/CMD prompts as Admin from win+X and from the file menu in the new explorer. In fact if you launch it from explorer it starts with that folder and the working directory, which I think is pretty neat.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    Grunt's GhostsGrunt's Ghosts Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Ah, McDonald's is shutting down their employee help website. The website that told them not to eat fast food because fast food is unhealthy.

    It also told us to sell our Christmas gifts to help with the burden of our bills.

    Because cutting my days from 5 to 2 helped big time, McDonalds.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    Omw to get an ultrasound of my kidneys, checking them for stones.

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    I remember when Papa Johns whined about how much it would cost consumers if Papa Johns had to give every employee health insurance, and it was something like 50 cents more a pizza and most people couldn't give a fuck.

    Similar to McD's, someone ran the numbers on how much more an extra value meal would cost if McDonalds paid employees a living wage and it was like a buck more. End of civilization I tell ya.

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    I think, as @Ronya pointed out, right now you don't have computers getting all the information anyway. We need a person in the cockpit/control center to double check the computers readings(the ocean not runway thing) but also to give the visual inputs and such that a computer isn't getting. Once we get computers up to the point they can basically see+all the info they get then I think you can go full automated almost.

    Actually Ben Bova's moon series actually describes the LEO planes as basically being automated but they keep a human in the cockpit for the other humans to feel safe. Mostly because the computers had reached the point that they don't need the human because they get all and more info than the human.

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    TaminTamin Registered User regular
    edited December 2013
    AssCreed IV is showing up as a daily deal, but without a discount applied

    that's ... strange

    edit: there it goes

    Tamin on
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    Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    lol steam sale: assassins creed black flag on sale! for full price.

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    Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    ok, they fixed it now.

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