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Space Solar Power coming soon?

TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta GhostbusterAtlanta, GARegistered User regular
edited September 2007 in Social Entropy++
My Boss came into the office today talking about an acquaintance of his who was working on cracking the U.S. Government to begin a project to put solar receptors into orbit around Earth which will convert the solar power into microwaves which will be beamed down to the surface and converted back into power.

This was a plan created by MIT guys in the 70s but the government wasn't interested then. Now, however, with the quest for alternate and clean fuel sources in full swing, they've changed their minds.

Those working on making this come to reality are under the firm belief that this should not be a United States only project and should be an international effort. What the government doesn't see eye-to-eye with the scientists about is this issue. They wouldn't want a hostile nation to be able to shut down our power as part of an attack or retaliation.

In any case, this is some awesome news for science.

A history of the technology (it dates back a long way) can be found on Wikipedia
"We now have the technology to convert the sun's energy at the rate of 42 to 56 percent... We have made tremendous progress. ...If you can concentrate the sun's rays through the use of large mirrors or lenses you get more for your money because most of the cost is in the PV arrays... There is a risk element but you can reduce it... You can put these small receivers in the desert or in the mountains away from populated areas. ...We believe that in 15 to 25 years we can lower that cost to 7 to 10 cents per kilowatt hour. ...We offer an advantage. You don't need cables, pipes, gas or copper wires. We can send it to you like a cell phone call -- where you want it and when you want it, in real time."

Power beamed ANYWHERE.

Think what it could do for remote research facilities or even military applications.

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    Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    this reminds me of asimov's The Last Question

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    MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Better idea: orbital laser cannons.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Ion Cannon charged

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    Frosted ButtsFrosted Butts Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.

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    AirAir Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    but then they take all the heat energy and everything gets cold

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    World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.
    because you definitely want one single entity in charge of this kind of thing

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    Frosted ButtsFrosted Butts Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.
    because you definitely want one single entity in charge of this kind of thing

    Yes, definitely.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.

    How about no.

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    This tech will be held back by the same ignorance that holds nuclear back.

    "WHAT? THEY WANT TO BLAST US WITH MICROWAVES?!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

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    MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Until I see some instances of

    Hey what's that light? Why's it getting briFWOOOOOOOOM


    I'm not interested.

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    World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I always knew microwaves would be the end of me

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    AirAir Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.

    privatization of infrastructure can be a very bad idea

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    DrHookensteinDrHookenstein Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Air wrote: »
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.

    privatization of infrastructure can be a very bad idea

    Hooray for baseless paranoia.

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    "He piled upon the whale's white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart's shell upon it." -Moby Dick
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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    What?!

    There's no sunlight in space!

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Air wrote: »
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.

    privatization of infrastructure can be a very bad idea

    So can anything else.

    Can be != always is.

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    MonkeybombMonkeybomb Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Air wrote: »
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.

    privatization of infrastructure can be a very bad idea

    Iraq.

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    The Otaku SuppositoryThe Otaku Suppository Bawstan New EnglandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I was just Die Another Day on tv too.

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    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    my cellphone will never go dead!

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    ChairwalkerChairwalker Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Let's just build a Dyson sphere and be done with it.

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    arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    Air wrote: »
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.

    privatization of infrastructure can be a very bad idea

    Hooray for baseless paranoia.

    You realize these things could be privatized later

    There is nothing wrong with government giving the initial leap into new technologies--and later allowing private industry take the reins once responsibility and control of the tech is establied: see railroads/shipping

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    lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Who cares? I'm waiting for materia to make fossil fuels obsolete.

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    lostwords wrote: »
    Who cares? I'm waiting for materia to make fossil fuels obsolete.

    Oh, just go to Cosmo Canyon. Plenty there.

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    Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    off to a funeral

    later SE++

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    DoughnutDoughnut Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Cool, it will be just like the ones in Simcity only it wont miss the target and light entire neighborhoods on fire.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    god you fags are really arguing over privatization vs. socialism in a thread about fucking giant space lasers?

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I was just Die Another Day on tv too.

    You were?
    That's interesting.

    I was Entorage.

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    DrHookensteinDrHookenstein Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    arod_77 wrote: »
    Air wrote: »
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.

    privatization of infrastructure can be a very bad idea

    Hooray for baseless paranoia.

    You realize these things could be privatized later

    There is nothing wrong with government giving the initial leap into new technologies--and later allowing private industry take the reins once responsibility and control of the tech is establied: see railroads/shipping

    Taking control back from the government is virtually impossible, however.

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    "He piled upon the whale's white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart's shell upon it." -Moby Dick
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    Frosted ButtsFrosted Butts Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    arod_77 wrote: »
    Air wrote: »
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.

    privatization of infrastructure can be a very bad idea

    Hooray for baseless paranoia.

    You realize these things could be privatized later

    There is nothing wrong with government giving the initial leap into new technologies--and later allowing private industry take the reins once responsibility and control of the tech is establied: see railroads/shipping

    But that leaves us with a good faith agreement on the part of the government that they will return this resource to the people.

    Even if the initial administration is trustworthy, regimes change.

    I cringe in terror when I think about some aristocrat like George W. Bush bullying his way to power and then given reign over the lifeblood essential to pretty much everything in the modern world.

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    RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited September 2007
    yeah this sounds like an affordable and reasonable use of our tax money.

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Only the wizards can determine how we use this new technology

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    Ginger MijangoGinger Mijango Don't you open that Trap Door!Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Orbital Bombardment

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Doughnut wrote: »
    Cool, it will be just like the ones in Simcity only it wont miss the target and light entire neighborhoods on fire.

    That's where I first heard about the idea actually. SimCity 3000's microwave power plants.

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    DrHookensteinDrHookenstein Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    god you fags are really arguing over privatization vs. socialism in a thread about fucking giant space lasers?

    God, you're interested in some tired repetition of "omg I'll be so cool if I express random euphoria over this gadget" in a bad ass thread about giant space lasers?

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    misbehavinmisbehavin Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    When I saw Die Another Day in the theater with my friend, we went in expecting the movie to be darker and more realistic than previous Bond films. And as we watched, we thought we were getting what we expected because of spme new dialogs (Bond as an "assassin" instead of "spy"), and some different Bond characterizations (trying to snipe Graves instead of blowing everything up, etc.).

    Then, after the movie was over, we looked at each other and went "Yeah... That was a movie about a giant space laser, wasn't it?"

    Thank goodness for Casino Royale.

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    The Otaku SuppositoryThe Otaku Suppository Bawstan New EnglandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I was just Die Another Day on tv too.

    You were?
    That's interesting.

    I was Entorage.

    Man fuck those action verbs.

    Waste of syllables.

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    lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    All I know is if this happens, I want Americans to find it first. I don't want no stinking Russians or Japanese figuring it out first, getting a monopoly, becoming the de facto world leader, and forcing me to learn a new language and culture.

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Wouldn't microwaves attenuate too quickly to do any damage?

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    When this technology comes to reality I can see military or theocratic dictatorships suddenly lose a lot of their key members due to freak incidents of "spontaneous human combustion".

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    arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    arod_77 wrote: »
    Air wrote: »
    It should be a private industry venture and not some kind of 'international effort'.

    privatization of infrastructure can be a very bad idea

    Hooray for baseless paranoia.

    You realize these things could be privatized later

    There is nothing wrong with government giving the initial leap into new technologies--and later allowing private industry take the reins once responsibility and control of the tech is establied: see railroads/shipping

    Taking control back from the government is virtually impossible, however.


    *shrug* Not if you believe in the market economy. If the government decided to de-regulate- market-forces and competition would handle the rest--just have to make sure that there are standards like with anything else

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    MKR wrote: »
    Wouldn't microwaves attenuate too quickly to do any damage?

    ain't you never seen batman begins?

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