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Ask me about being Clinically Depressed

CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
I hope this thread is alright to make, if not it can get pruned or moved to a larger thread or somesuch.

Basically, with the rise of the internet I've noticed a lot of misconceptions and questions about the mental illness called depression. And as a professionally depressed person with five years of experience, I hope I can clear some of them up.

So, fire away.

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    KarlKarl Registered User regular
    I'm under the impression that depression is a medical condition you have to be diagnosed with by a trained medical professional (a psychologist?)

    People who say they are suffering from depression but have not consulted a medical professional are in fact incorrect.

    How far off the mark am i?

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    2 Marcus 2 Ravens2 Marcus 2 Ravens CanadaRegistered User regular
    How does one become a professionally depressed person? Because I think I've got potential.

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    I'm under the impression that depression is a medical condition you have to be diagnosed with by a trained medical professional (a psychologist?)

    People who say they are suffering from depression but have not consulted a medical professional are in fact incorrect.

    How far off the mark am i?

    If someone with cancer never sees a doctor do they still have cancer?

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    MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    I'm under the impression that depression is a medical condition you have to be diagnosed with by a trained medical professional (a psychologist?)

    People who say they are suffering from depression but have not consulted a medical professional are in fact incorrect.

    How far off the mark am i?

    If someone with cancer never sees a doctor do they still have cancer?

    Okay now that's just getting in to philosophy here!

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    What is the sound of one undiagnosed sick person suffering? And do they still make it if nobody is around to hear?

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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    Well, I've been diagnosed by a medical professional, and take a prescription @Karl. I was depressed before that, however. This is not to say everyone should selfdiagnos, but if you think you need help, go see a doctor. Immediately.

    @Marcus, you just have to pray at the bloodstone circle over E. A. Poe's grave. Then you'll get your badge.

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    Depression is a symptom, but a bunch of different mood disorders with different names like Major Depressive Disorder and Dysthymia are often refered to as "Depression"

    You don't have to "have depression" to be depressed. It can be caused as a side effect of medication, a symptom of a seemingly unrelated illness or injury, it can have environmental triggers, and it can also happen acutely because of upsetting life events and not knowing how to process them in a healthy way.

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    I'm under the impression that depression is a medical condition you have to be diagnosed with by a trained medical professional (a psychologist?)

    People who say they are suffering from depression but have not consulted a medical professional are in fact incorrect.

    How far off the mark am i?

    If someone with cancer never sees a doctor do they still have cancer?

    Does a tumor shit in the woods with the Pope?

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    LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    Actually, I think I'll PM this one.

    Legba on
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    TaskmanTaskman Registered User regular
    Hunter wrote: »
    Karl wrote: »
    I'm under the impression that depression is a medical condition you have to be diagnosed with by a trained medical professional (a psychologist?)

    People who say they are suffering from depression but have not consulted a medical professional are in fact incorrect.

    How far off the mark am i?

    If someone with cancer never sees a doctor do they still have cancer?

    Does a tumor shit in the woods with the Pope?

    Something, something, 'holier than the average melanoma, Boo-boo'.

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    ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    Hey. I have that thing.

    It sucks.

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    ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    Legba wrote: »
    Actually, I think I'll PM this one.

    I caught this before the edit and would say so not do those things.

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    Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    So the few times where my depression really spikes, I've never been offered to go on a quest. Is this because people can tell I just feel empty inside and don't feel I'd be able to complete the quest, or is it because I don't leave my bed for most of the day and don't give myself the chance to meet such quest givers, as if they even care?

    No I don't.
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    Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    #pipe wrote: »
    Depression is a symptom, but a bunch of different mood disorders with different names like Major Depressive Disorder and Dysthymia are often refered to as "Depression"

    You don't have to "have depression" to be depressed. It can be caused as a side effect of medication, a symptom of a seemingly unrelated illness or injury, it can have environmental triggers, and it can also happen acutely because of upsetting life events and not knowing how to process them in a healthy way.

    To expand on this, Depression can be caused by undiagnosed or untreated anxiety disorder or ADHD.

    This is a good book on dealing with depression, even if the title is a little misleading.

    Death of Rats on
    No I don't.
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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    or all kinds of things

    Don't think of Depression like Influenza, it's more like a cough.

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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    So the few times where my depression really spikes, I've never been offered to go on a quest. Is this because people can tell I just feel empty inside and don't feel I'd be able to complete the quest, or is it because I don't leave my bed for most of the day and don't give myself the chance to meet such quest givers, as if they even care?

    I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here

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    Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    The Betman wrote: »
    So the few times where my depression really spikes, I've never been offered to go on a quest. Is this because people can tell I just feel empty inside and don't feel I'd be able to complete the quest, or is it because I don't leave my bed for most of the day and don't give myself the chance to meet such quest givers, as if they even care?

    I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here

    I've never had a Depression Quest.

    No I don't.
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    Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    Oh, and don't get put on antidepressants by your general doctor. Go see someone who's first reaction to depression is treating the underlying problems, not by giving you pills.

    Antidepressants have their uses, but they're not a first step.

    No I don't.
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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    They sure as hell work for me.

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Oh, and don't get put on antidepressants by your general doctor. Go see someone who's first reaction to depression is treating the underlying problems, not by giving you pills.

    Antidepressants have their uses, but they're not a first step.

    por que no los dos

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    Pills can absolutely be a first step if they are what make you able to get out of bed and do the things necessary to treat the underlying problems.

    Not much help booking therapy sessions if you're incapable of leaving your room.

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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    And if therapy makes you uncomfortable, as it does for me, pills are the best option.

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    KaplarKaplar On Google MapsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2014
    I was diagnosed with this about 10-12 years ago
    I was prescribed pills for this.
    I stopped taking those pills about a year after I started on them.
    I was told I shouldn't just stop taking my meds.
    Did anyway.
    Meh.

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    Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    edited January 2014
    -Tal wrote: »
    Oh, and don't get put on antidepressants by your general doctor. Go see someone who's first reaction to depression is treating the underlying problems, not by giving you pills.

    Antidepressants have their uses, but they're not a first step.

    por que no los dos

    Of course! What I mean is that antidepressants should be used in combination with some form of therapy in most cases. Even if it's just self therapy.

    Then again depression is a complex thing and I shouldn't act like there are hardset rules for treating it. I just found that antidepressants didn't help me deal with the bad habits I developed because of depression. I needed to be made aware of those bad habits in order to manage them and slowly be able to really feel again. Not to mention be able to be aware of when I was falling into a deep depression again.

    Without taking care of the coping mechanisms one develops with depression I was liable to make my depression worse as I continued to make decisions based around feeling safe instead of making decisions based on what I wanted.

    But even still I'm doing a bad job of managing it. Frantically posting today just to ignore things I actually should be doing because it makes it so I'm not thinking about my problems.

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    No I don't.
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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    My girlfriend is on permanent, nightly medication for Bipolar Disorder.

    She's lucky in that the medication is super successful for her, but she still needs to go and talk with her therapist occasionally to stay on top of things and be held accountable. She found that the key to her high functioning was identifying the precursors to a depressive or manic period (which the medication mostly suppresses, but not 100% of the time), anticipating the effects and almost sitting back and letting them happen, comfortable in the knowledge that it is just an effect of her disease, and it will pass.

    She'll still get depressed for a few days, but we've both learned how to deal with it. Most of my job in that situation is not expecting too much of her. Making sure she eats well and doesn't over stretch herself. And then she snaps out of it.

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    2 Marcus 2 Ravens2 Marcus 2 Ravens CanadaRegistered User regular
    Pills can absolutely be a first step if they are what make you able to get out of bed and do the things necessary to treat the underlying problems.

    Not much help booking therapy sessions if you're incapable of leaving your room.

    This was my experience. I got on medication right away simply so I could get out of bed and stand a fighting chance of not losing my job. I put off getting help for far too long, and getting on pills was a necessary first step for me.

    Once I started to balance out, I eventually got off my medication and found help through other means, but I'm convinced I wouldn't have been able to get better if it weren't for antidepressants. I'd have stayed in bed, lost my job, and maybe would have killed myself. T'was bleak times.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Karl wrote: »
    I'm under the impression that depression is a medical condition you have to be diagnosed with by a trained medical professional (a psychologist?)

    People who say they are suffering from depression but have not consulted a medical professional are in fact incorrect.

    How far off the mark am i?

    We understand very little on how the brain operates. Hell, most people don't see medical doctors for their depression.

    And speaking as a person with a chronic illness in general, I have been told by multiple docs that my theory of my purely physical disease was impossible.

    So sometimes you just know your body better than most.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Depression really sucks, even the mild kind.

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    ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    Oh, and don't get put on antidepressants by your general doctor. Go see someone who's first reaction to depression is treating the underlying problems, not by giving you pills.

    Antidepressants have their uses, but they're not a first step.

    They're also not "happy pills" or The Devil.

    They can have their uses, sometimes they can be overprescribed but they don't all turn you into a complete zombie, they can give you a leg up on getting the help you need

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    CalicaCalica Registered User regular
    Artreus wrote: »
    Oh, and don't get put on antidepressants by your general doctor. Go see someone who's first reaction to depression is treating the underlying problems, not by giving you pills.

    Antidepressants have their uses, but they're not a first step.

    They're also not "happy pills" or The Devil.

    They can have their uses, sometimes they can be overprescribed but they don't all turn you into a complete zombie, they can give you a leg up on getting the help you need

    The way I think of it, from my experience, is that if life with all its big and little stressors is like turbulent water, depression is a weight belt that pulls you down under the waves. Antidepressants don't make you magically float, but they take the weight away so you can tread water.

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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    Calica wrote: »
    Artreus wrote: »
    Oh, and don't get put on antidepressants by your general doctor. Go see someone who's first reaction to depression is treating the underlying problems, not by giving you pills.

    Antidepressants have their uses, but they're not a first step.

    They're also not "happy pills" or The Devil.

    They can have their uses, sometimes they can be overprescribed but they don't all turn you into a complete zombie, they can give you a leg up on getting the help you need

    The way I think of it, from my experience, is that if life with all its big and little stressors is like turbulent water, depression is a weight belt that pulls you down under the waves. Antidepressants don't make you magically float, but they take the weight away so you can tread water.

    Ironically one of the antidepressants I took made me gain 30 pounds.

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    godmodegodmode Southeast JapanRegistered User regular
    Aistan wrote: »
    Calica wrote: »
    Artreus wrote: »
    Oh, and don't get put on antidepressants by your general doctor. Go see someone who's first reaction to depression is treating the underlying problems, not by giving you pills.

    Antidepressants have their uses, but they're not a first step.

    They're also not "happy pills" or The Devil.

    They can have their uses, sometimes they can be overprescribed but they don't all turn you into a complete zombie, they can give you a leg up on getting the help you need

    The way I think of it, from my experience, is that if life with all its big and little stressors is like turbulent water, depression is a weight belt that pulls you down under the waves. Antidepressants don't make you magically float, but they take the weight away so you can tread water.

    Ironically one of the antidepressants I took made me gain 30 pounds.

    Heeeey glad I'm not the only one!

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    ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    One that I took made me lose 30 pounds

    it wasn't fun

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    ReginaldReginald When I am Pres., I will create the Department of ______Registered User regular
    I am pretty sure I suffer from at least moderate depression. I keep on telling myself I should go to a therapist, but I am a bit scared to open myself up to someone in that way. It'd have to be a pretty good therapist for me.

    Instead I just exercise, work too much, drink lots, and ignore my general malaise and inaction. :)

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    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    Artreus wrote: »
    One that I took made me lose 30 pounds

    it wasn't fun

    yo gimme dat

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