I guess I have to wait for them to make a live action trailer for this game, since apparently fully anime jiggling is where the line is drawn, comparing my posts in this thread to the ones for Killer Is Dead. Oh well.
I was in Roppongi for the first time, and I was just strolling along, and some Nigerian bar promoter was slowly walking up to my side. As I'm walking past him, he felt the most eloquent way to promote his bar was to yell "TITTIES" in my ear.
Monster Monpiece is pretty entertaining without even coming out, various forums are melting down over it. Technically it's censorship, I suppose. Seriously though, how was that game ever going to fly over here without some cuts? I'm fairly astounded the minigame didn't get cut entirely.
I'm surprised that Kotaku hasn't been beating the drum over this; they got some good traffic / mileage out of the Dragon's Crown thing. Maybe the dissonance of their Asian correspondent posting that stuff saying it's awesome while the North American crew decries it finally got to them.
Alright, who's making the Monster Monpiece thread?
MM is kinda boring from all reports, not devoid of fun but very repetitive. SK always had this buzz that it was quite fun and had a decent story to go along with it.
What is is with Japan and releasing games that cultures outside their own are embarrassed to be seen playing?
I suspect your post was made semi-jokingly, so I apologize for this mostly-serious response. :P
First of all, most Japanese players would likely be embarrassed to be seen playing these games. But, to some extent, I think playing video games in general is more stigmatized in Japan than in the U.S. If you're familiar with Game Center CX (or Retro Game Challenge), you can see the narrator gets plenty of mileage out of the "middle-aged man still plays video games" jokes. So, if you can't admit to coworkers that you play Monster Hunter, not admitting to playing a game with tits isn't much worse.
Secondly, there are tons of examples of Western media that have, at some point, been stigmatized as embarrassing. Dungeons and Dragons, for example. Everything nerdy has been seen as embarrassing by someone.
Thirdly, using shame as a means to dissuade people from something is still disappointingly common. You even have Sony making statements about how adults should feel embarrassed to be seen with a 3DS in public. It's a transparent and shallow criticism, and I'll be overjoyed when gamers no longer resort to it.
(Again, this isn't directed at anyone specifically.)
Your post isn't even close to homing in on The Point. The game objectifies women and yes, you should feel some shame for spending money on such a thing.
Feel free to thrash and flop around that point by calling it "censorship" or whatever excuse on the board your dart happened to hit today, but it be what it be.
Did you even play the game RR? It does certainly objectify women, can't deny that. It also fleshes out their characters in interesting ways and talks about some very interesting aspects of good versus evil, law versus chaos, wealth versus poverty while at the same time not taking itself too seriously. It knows what it is doing and overall I'd say it does a decent job of empowering women.
But you wouldn't know that if you never bothered playing it.
The game (or maybe the devs) really tries to have its cake and eat it too. It's maddening. Gameplay is solid (if repetitive), story and characterization are very good, blatant objectification — including the personality of at least one character on each side, tbh — taints the whole thing.
Honestly if I didn't receive a review code for it I probably would have skipped it. Without my own cash being tied to my owning the game (and thus no "sunk cost" effect), I found it to be intriguingly fun and played through both stories because I wanted to see how they developed.
As far as "empowering" and "strong female characters" goes? I guess the best comparison is to Sucker Punch, for good or for ill. What you thought of that movie is probably what you'd think of this game.
Was Sucker Punch that dadaism-like movie with the fascinatingly shoddy camerawork, some visibly cardboard-based sets and occasional wordsalad-dialogue?
I haven't played the game but it almost made me want to give it a try.
If you want to tear it apart, be my guest, I don't have any interest in defending it due to not knowing much about the game...I just saw the thread bumped and thought it was an interesting article that's relevant here.
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I was in Roppongi for the first time, and I was just strolling along, and some Nigerian bar promoter was slowly walking up to my side. As I'm walking past him, he felt the most eloquent way to promote his bar was to yell "TITTIES" in my ear.
In other news SK 2 looks amazing. Drastic improvement visually over SK1 though that camera looks troublesome.
right now, not last night.
Don't you mean the whole world?
What is is with Japan and releasing games that cultures outside their own are embarrassed to be seen playing?
Half of the world.
The other half is the ass-faction.
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Monster Monpiece is pretty entertaining without even coming out, various forums are melting down over it. Technically it's censorship, I suppose. Seriously though, how was that game ever going to fly over here without some cuts? I'm fairly astounded the minigame didn't get cut entirely.
I'm surprised that Kotaku hasn't been beating the drum over this; they got some good traffic / mileage out of the Dragon's Crown thing. Maybe the dissonance of their Asian correspondent posting that stuff saying it's awesome while the North American crew decries it finally got to them.
MM is kinda boring from all reports, not devoid of fun but very repetitive. SK always had this buzz that it was quite fun and had a decent story to go along with it.
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Correct. Only Europe gets a physical copy.
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I suspect your post was made semi-jokingly, so I apologize for this mostly-serious response. :P
First of all, most Japanese players would likely be embarrassed to be seen playing these games. But, to some extent, I think playing video games in general is more stigmatized in Japan than in the U.S. If you're familiar with Game Center CX (or Retro Game Challenge), you can see the narrator gets plenty of mileage out of the "middle-aged man still plays video games" jokes. So, if you can't admit to coworkers that you play Monster Hunter, not admitting to playing a game with tits isn't much worse.
Secondly, there are tons of examples of Western media that have, at some point, been stigmatized as embarrassing. Dungeons and Dragons, for example. Everything nerdy has been seen as embarrassing by someone.
Thirdly, using shame as a means to dissuade people from something is still disappointingly common. You even have Sony making statements about how adults should feel embarrassed to be seen with a 3DS in public. It's a transparent and shallow criticism, and I'll be overjoyed when gamers no longer resort to it.
(Again, this isn't directed at anyone specifically.)
Feel free to thrash and flop around that point by calling it "censorship" or whatever excuse on the board your dart happened to hit today, but it be what it be.
But you wouldn't know that if you never bothered playing it.
Honestly if I didn't receive a review code for it I probably would have skipped it. Without my own cash being tied to my owning the game (and thus no "sunk cost" effect), I found it to be intriguingly fun and played through both stories because I wanted to see how they developed.
As far as "empowering" and "strong female characters" goes? I guess the best comparison is to Sucker Punch, for good or for ill. What you thought of that movie is probably what you'd think of this game.
I don't really like Sucker Punch but I do like SK.
I know this is a month old post by now @Rorus Raz but I thought this was an interesting read, regarding the characters in Senran Kagura:
http://tinycartridge.com/post/76988591792/reconsidering-senran-kagura-burst-senran-kagura
I haven't played the game but it almost made me want to give it a try.
If you want to tear it apart, be my guest, I don't have any interest in defending it due to not knowing much about the game...I just saw the thread bumped and thought it was an interesting article that's relevant here.
Played a couple of hours last night and I'm enjoying it so far.