Yeah yoga is always good, and you can go at your own pace!
Sometimes your back just throws a wobby for no reason. I'd see how long it lasts for, and if any of the yoga helps to improve things.
Yeah, sometimes the body just goes FUCK YOU out of nowhere.
I had a random cramp in my back while sleeping, once.
I woke up to what felt like my spine attempting to shred it's way out of my torso. I was pretty much bedridden all day, and felt like shit for the better part of a week, if I recall.
I've never had it that bad for that long. Mine freaked out a few days ago and is nearly fine now, I'd dread a week : /
If you have the insurance to cover it, chiropractors can do magic tricks with your folded body if you're into that sort of thing. I had a crazy back spasm once that knocked me to the floor that a single chiropractor visit got rid of.
Doing the yoga stuff mentioned and other stretches can help them from happening again or in the first place though and those are certainly good options.
I used to live with a physiotherapist and I had really sore back muscles one day from work and said to her "oh, Sophie, was wondering, I've really hurt my back from being hunched over making buttonholes, what should I do?"
"Don't do that" and she just walked off. Ruuuude.
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Just saying that at least in the US, areas we have let "go wild" are the result of forced depopulation of those places. Also we still manage those places. Also the act of humans interacting with them do affect the ecosystems there, even if it's just backpackers in a Wilderness Area.
which doesn't make the outdoors unnatural! It does, however, mean that they are manmade. They look and act the way they do because of human intervention. I think in most people's minds there is a distinction between "natural" places and "unnatural" ones like cities. I definitely think this has resulted in an attitude which doesn't consider an urban environment worth managing as a natural landscape, with deleterious effects on its inhabitants. There is also the environmental movement's skeleton in the closet: many conservationists, early or otherwise, were specifically trying to maintain the "purity" of nature from city-dwelling brown folks.
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I have properly done my back in, to the point of being crippled for several days, three times.
Once was moving furniture. Okay, that makes sense, that's hard work.
Once was putting on underwear. Which is just embarrassing.
Once was stretching while sat in a chair. What.
Each time resulted in me lying flat on the floor for over an hour, then moving like a B-movie robot for about a week afterwards. Back pain suuuucks.
I had a lot of back and neck and shoulder pain after getting my valve replaced (I heard it was because after they crack your sternum they spread you open wide and you stay like that for hours) and that hospital bed didn't help any. I think all the stiffness also gave me some tension headaches but I'm not sure. Anyway I do know that once I got home, sleeping on my awesome bed and lots of gentle yoga and stretching helped tons.
I realized I sounded super combative about nature stuff. I am not! I love backpacking, and fishing and hiking and everything. I just like thinking about how our culture has constructed this idea of "untouched by the hand of man," which is a compete fantasy.
Yeah yoga is always good, and you can go at your own pace!
Sometimes your back just throws a wobby for no reason. I'd see how long it lasts for, and if any of the yoga helps to improve things.
Yeah, sometimes the body just goes FUCK YOU out of nowhere.
I had a random cramp in my back while sleeping, once.
I woke up to what felt like my spine attempting to shred it's way out of my torso. I was pretty much bedridden all day, and felt like shit for the better part of a week, if I recall.
I've never had it that bad for that long. Mine freaked out a few days ago and is nearly fine now, I'd dread a week : /
Better part, meaning around 4, maybe 5 days.
As in able to walk, but with a shitty backache for that time period.
Also this was ages ago and I could be mistaken in how long it lasted.
The british isles have been inhabited for so long, though. And the thing with humans is that it's not just post-industrial-revolution that we've been impacting environments on a large scale. Ancient man caused mass extinctions upon migration; ever since we first started cultivating land or building with wood or stone we've been changing the world to suit our needs. There are places (few) which have had minimal direct contact with human beings even over the millennia, but then we need to keep in mind long-range or global effects, like climate change, nuclear testing, even localised airborne pollution.
So yes, the 'natural' vs 'man-made' distinction is somewhat artificial. But I think it's worth being mindful of our tendency to tread heavy upon the earth, and also bear witness to the earth's ability to recover, and 'natural' places can help us do that. Also there is a flip side to the argument - we are not independent of the earth; places people live are just as natural, just as much a product of earth's evolution and history, as places they don't. The false dualism goes right through, and saying 'no place on earth is truly 'natural'' is just as much of a fallacy as insisting that the local woodland a few km away is untouched by the hand of man.
uh ... not sure what that was leading up to. Nature rules? let's try and keep trees and shit around, I like them.
As a person who enjoys some solitude, I am so glad I live in Australia.
The feeling of crawling into my swag, hundreds of kilometres from the next nearest human and not a single hint of light pollution in the sky is something akin to magic.
I've only gone camping a handful of times in my life, but I would love to do more. I am sad I never got to do Boy Scouts when I was younger.
One goal I have is to climb Mt. Fugi.
I go hiking in the Lake District whenever I visit family up there.
I'm not super fit but there's something pleasant about wandering around hills and mountains for an hour or two until you can look around you and see not a single speck of civilisation.
Fuck it now I'm looking up good hiking trails near Chicago, I know what I'm doing this summer
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Hiking is something I do to get to places for hunting or fishing. The act on its own is not that enjoyable to me. Granted I don't hate it either, unless sticker bushes or thorns are involved. Fuck that kind of nature.
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Yeah, I love hiking to a climb. But hiking itself just kind of bores me a bit. Though I do need to do it a bunch more to get in shape for climbing a mountain at some point
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I went for a walk/hike on Sunday, up and back down the Wye valley. It wasn't really a hike because we weren't exactly far from civilisation (well, we were in Wales, har har har)
We started and ended our route by Tintern Abbey, (founded 1131), walked across some rolling hills, and then had a cream tea. It was the most English possible day out. In Wales.
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I've never had it that bad for that long. Mine freaked out a few days ago and is nearly fine now, I'd dread a week : /
Doing the yoga stuff mentioned and other stretches can help them from happening again or in the first place though and those are certainly good options.
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"Don't do that" and she just walked off. Ruuuude.
which doesn't make the outdoors unnatural! It does, however, mean that they are manmade. They look and act the way they do because of human intervention. I think in most people's minds there is a distinction between "natural" places and "unnatural" ones like cities. I definitely think this has resulted in an attitude which doesn't consider an urban environment worth managing as a natural landscape, with deleterious effects on its inhabitants. There is also the environmental movement's skeleton in the closet: many conservationists, early or otherwise, were specifically trying to maintain the "purity" of nature from city-dwelling brown folks.
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Once was moving furniture. Okay, that makes sense, that's hard work.
Once was putting on underwear. Which is just embarrassing.
Once was stretching while sat in a chair. What.
Each time resulted in me lying flat on the floor for over an hour, then moving like a B-movie robot for about a week afterwards. Back pain suuuucks.
Take that for what you will.
Stretching and core strength especially help bad back.
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Better part, meaning around 4, maybe 5 days.
As in able to walk, but with a shitty backache for that time period.
Also this was ages ago and I could be mistaken in how long it lasted.
Above the treeline maybe? Still be paths and cairns. Maybe up on Rannoch Moor or out in the islands?
It's not like the scenery is any less stunning for being grazed and lumbered. Went to Loch Tay weekend before last:
So yes, the 'natural' vs 'man-made' distinction is somewhat artificial. But I think it's worth being mindful of our tendency to tread heavy upon the earth, and also bear witness to the earth's ability to recover, and 'natural' places can help us do that. Also there is a flip side to the argument - we are not independent of the earth; places people live are just as natural, just as much a product of earth's evolution and history, as places they don't. The false dualism goes right through, and saying 'no place on earth is truly 'natural'' is just as much of a fallacy as insisting that the local woodland a few km away is untouched by the hand of man.
uh ... not sure what that was leading up to. Nature rules? let's try and keep trees and shit around, I like them.
The feeling of crawling into my swag, hundreds of kilometres from the next nearest human and not a single hint of light pollution in the sky is something akin to magic.
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One goal I have is to climb Mt. Fugi.
I'm not super fit but there's something pleasant about wandering around hills and mountains for an hour or two until you can look around you and see not a single speck of civilisation.
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We started and ended our route by Tintern Abbey, (founded 1131), walked across some rolling hills, and then had a cream tea. It was the most English possible day out. In Wales.
The beauty mostly undimnshed by Loch Tay's role in the Breadalbane Hydro-Electric Power Scheme with Finlarig power station on it's banks
As for completly untouched, I would say what remains of the Flow Country would qualify.
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I'm late to this thread but ballet is awesome for butts and backs, you don't need anything other than access to YouTube and you can work at your own pace