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Castle Bravo, a [chat]

AbdhyiusAbdhyius regularRegistered User regular
edited March 2014 in Debate and/or Discourse
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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx regular Registered User regular
    Did you even try to google bro?

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    Yeah man, I tell ya what, man, that dang ol' internet, man, you just go in on there and point and click, talk about w-w-dot-w-com, mean you got the naked chicks on there, man, just go click, click, click, click, click, it's real easy, man.
  • emnmnmeemnmnme regular Registered User regular
    tron-quorra.jpg

    Now that's the stuff.

  • 21stCentury21stCentury A lovely pixel artist and gamecrafter [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Now everyone in chat will be an irradiated mutant.

  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Yeah, that OP pretty much sums up how I'm feeling right now.

    Official member of the Grilling Gentry
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  • InquisitorInquisitor regular Registered User regular
    Tav:

    I was talking about the flow and timing of the conversation, not of a joke. If you think I pay enough attention to comedians jokes to memorize their timing, well, let us just say that I do not. I hardly even remember the precise wording.

    Not to mentioning telling a joke in a conversation using stand up timing would be completely out of place and awkward.

    Quid
  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx regular Registered User regular
    Goddamn those boots

    *drools* sexy boots to terrible things to my composure

    Yeah man, I tell ya what, man, that dang ol' internet, man, you just go in on there and point and click, talk about w-w-dot-w-com, mean you got the naked chicks on there, man, just go click, click, click, click, click, it's real easy, man.
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius regular Registered User regular
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  • QuidQuid I don't... what... hnnng Registered User regular
    So is everyone just gonna post the same picture of Olivia Wilde from Tron?

    Abdhyius
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    So, the idea that a regular person repeating, reusing or otherwise appropriating a joke is somehow wrong and that accreditation is a moral responsibility? It's wrong.

    There is no such moral imperative. It's not how comedy or communication works. And jokes aren't things to be protected, they are things to be told.

    Tide goes in. Tide goes out.
    Es-annon NEVA 4GET
    QuidAbdhyiusInquisitor
  • kedinikkedinik regular Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Tav:

    I was talking about the flow and timing of the conversation, not of a joke. If you think I pay enough attention to comedians jokes to memorize their timing, well, let us just say that I do not. I hardly even remember the precise wording.

    Not to mentioning telling a joke in a conversation using stand up timing would be completely out of place and awkward.

    I do not experience conversations as things which are meaningfully impeded if you say, "Hahah, yeah, my wife came up with that one" as the laughter dies down.

    Which is not to say that you always need to be citing All The Things, either.

    kedinik on
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius regular Registered User regular
    my favourite bit about that castle bravo image has always been the clouds in the bottom of the picture

    it all has this otherwordly quality few other nuclear explosion shots have

    it is one of my favourite images and so when I hit "random" in my head it came up

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx regular Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    olivia-wilde-tron-legacy-cou.jpg

    I chose not to link that one because its so wide.

    Yeah man, I tell ya what, man, that dang ol' internet, man, you just go in on there and point and click, talk about w-w-dot-w-com, mean you got the naked chicks on there, man, just go click, click, click, click, click, it's real easy, man.
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius regular Registered User regular

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme regular Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    So is everyone just gonna post the same picture of Olivia Wilde from Tron?
    I'm not complaining.

    bloodyroarxxZampanovDark Raven XwanderingRedTide
  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    I mean...

    I've been sick with sinuses for the last few days, requiring me to turn in one of my sick days at work. Mom keeps going on how they'll use any excuse to fire me...

    Or about how I'm making more now than she's ever made in her life, and how she was able to support an apartment on 10k a year - which, btw, isn't true, as she was getting help from dad at the time.

    But.. really.. I dunno. I just wish my psychiatric visit would get here, despite how much shame I'm getting about it from people.

    I'm just.. sitting here. An acquaintance of mine lost a friend yesterday and is really broken about it. Another, closer friend lost her grandmother...

    I know this isn't a contest. But god damn when it rains, it pours.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor regular Registered User regular
    kedinik wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Tav:

    I was talking about the flow and timing of the conversation, not of a joke. If you think I pay enough attention to comedians jokes to memorize their timing, well, let us just say that I do not. I hardly even remember the precise wording.

    Not to mentioning telling a joke in a conversation using stand up timing would be completely out of place and awkward.

    I do not experience conversations as things which are meaningfully impeded if you say, "Hahah, yeah, my wife came up with that one" as the laughter dies down.

    Which is not to say that you always need to be citing All The Things, either.

    Sometimes there is a timing window for that! Sometimes, there is not and someone cracks another joke off of yours as the laughter is dying down, making a new wave of laughter.

    I am not going to go "Wait shut up I didn't cite that joke yet my responsibility to the originator of that joke has not been fulfilled!"

    QuidAbdhyiusHappylilElf
  • ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    So is everyone just gonna post the same picture of Olivia Wilde from Tron?

    you got a problem buddy

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    Dark Raven XAbdhyius
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius regular Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    olivia-wilde-tron-legacy-cou.jpg

    I chose not to link that one because its so wide.

    for real? Are you on a gameboy?

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Plus, in this brave new world of internets and anon and SA and 4chan a joke is often derived from memes, or simply is a meme.

    Accredit THAT!

    Tide goes in. Tide goes out.
    Es-annon NEVA 4GET
  • emnmnmeemnmnme regular Registered User regular
    Hey, how did the Soviets steal the bomb from the US again? Walk out the front door with a folder labeled TOP SECRET?

  • OrganichuOrganichu jacobkosh Registered User regular
    hmm maybe i will play a multiplayer fps

    murika?

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius regular Registered User regular
    and I just thought

    no

    we need a bigger image of olivia wilde

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    if someone tells a joke and I heard it elsewhere I will say so

    I don't care if it ruins the flow... deliver the line and then say where it came from

    I find it kind of gross to do otherwise. likewise if you were quoting a book and didn't admit it, etc.

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  • ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    hmm maybe i will play a multiplayer fps

    murika?

    fuck yeah

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  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    What was her name? Something awesome like Quora, right?

    Oh brilliant
    bloodyroarxx
  • InquisitorInquisitor regular Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    hmm maybe i will play a multiplayer fps

    murika?

    But which one?

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius regular Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    kedinik wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Tav:

    I was talking about the flow and timing of the conversation, not of a joke. If you think I pay enough attention to comedians jokes to memorize their timing, well, let us just say that I do not. I hardly even remember the precise wording.

    Not to mentioning telling a joke in a conversation using stand up timing would be completely out of place and awkward.

    I do not experience conversations as things which are meaningfully impeded if you say, "Hahah, yeah, my wife came up with that one" as the laughter dies down.

    Which is not to say that you always need to be citing All The Things, either.

    Sometimes there is a timing window for that! Sometimes, there is not and someone cracks another joke off of yours as the laughter is dying down, making a new wave of laughter.

    I am not going to go "Wait shut up I didn't cite that joke yet my responsibility to the originator of that joke has not been fulfilled!"

    I'm not gonna bother unless anyone would care

    or I dunno, I'm drunk and otherwise won't shut up


    or maybe as a seque - yeah I heard that one on QI isn't QI great

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  • QuidQuid I don't... what... hnnng Registered User regular
    Watching this Doctor Strange movie.

    Seems like even if his hands were messed up a neurosurgeon ought to be able to find work in the medical field.

  • TavTav regular Registered User regular
    If you retell a whole long-form "priest walks into a bar" traditional joke-joke, no one is gonna ask where you got it and no one is gonna assume you made it up, so claiming you made it up is dorky, citing it is dorky. No one cares.

    If you retell a funny first person story stolen from a comedian, that's just weird as heck, who does that? That's just regular lying.

    If you steal a fragment of a joke like "sadness bowls" or just the kernel, some turn of phrase, some observation that makes a joke work and put it in regular conversation, I feel like that's totally fine! A cite would ruin it, no one will ask if it was stolen, you're not doing standup so no one is gonna call you a derivative hack, it's just absorbing a funny idea and reusing it in a slightly different context.

    So many people, and I'm not just talking from a standup point of view. It's incredibly common to hear people do this in normal conversations because they're under the impression that people haven't heard the story before.

    And reusing something in a different context but presenting it as your own idea is, as far as I'm concerned, stealing (lets call it "joke pirating" before someone wonderfully chimes in with "but the comedian doesn't lose out!"). Obviously there are gradients here (like, a joke about masturbation versus a very specific concept like sadness bowls) but I'm pretty firmly against using someone else's work to make you seem funnier/smarter/wittier/whateverer than you really are.

    Variable
  • WinkyWinky regular Registered User regular
    Hey are fundamentally different things with fundamentally different drivers and substrates upon which they act.

    Yes, I am fully aware of this, but they are isomorphic; they map to each other in a way that is not superficial and actually indicates a deeper relationship. It's like if I were comparing a person to their picture, and I was like "this is him" and you were like "this is clearly not him this is a piece of paper, they're entirely different things".

  • InquisitorInquisitor regular Registered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    if someone tells a joke and I heard it elsewhere I will say so

    I don't care if it ruins the flow... deliver the line and then say where it came from

    I find it kind of gross to do otherwise. likewise if you were quoting a book and didn't admit it, etc.

    That sounds really displeasureable to be around, if I am being honest.

    If someone asked if I quoted something, I would tell them. But people are under no obligation to force that fact into a conversation.

    PowerpuppiesKagera
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    if someone tells a joke and I heard it elsewhere I will say so

    I don't care if it ruins the flow... deliver the line and then say where it came from

    I find it kind of gross to do otherwise. likewise if you were quoting a book and didn't admit it, etc.

    I don't believe you.

    Tide goes in. Tide goes out.
    Es-annon NEVA 4GET
  • OrganichuOrganichu jacobkosh Registered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    if someone tells a joke and I heard it elsewhere I will say so

    I don't care if it ruins the flow... deliver the line and then say where it came from

    I find it kind of gross to do otherwise. likewise if you were quoting a book and didn't admit it, etc.

    sry bro i guess i am carlos mencia about this

    Powerpuppies
  • kedinikkedinik regular Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    kedinik wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Tav:

    I was talking about the flow and timing of the conversation, not of a joke. If you think I pay enough attention to comedians jokes to memorize their timing, well, let us just say that I do not. I hardly even remember the precise wording.

    Not to mentioning telling a joke in a conversation using stand up timing would be completely out of place and awkward.

    I do not experience conversations as things which are meaningfully impeded if you say, "Hahah, yeah, my wife came up with that one" as the laughter dies down.

    Which is not to say that you always need to be citing All The Things, either.

    Sometimes there is a timing window for that! Sometimes, there is not and someone cracks another joke off of yours as the laughter is dying down, making a new wave of laughter.

    I am not going to go "Wait shut up I didn't cite that joke yet my responsibility to the originator of that joke has not been fulfilled!"

    Yeah, sure.

    Given your posts, DK's posts and Tav's posts, I don't think any of us are actually disagreeing about much.

    kedinik on
  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    I will go "was that from xyz" or "didn't they do something like that on"

    maybe it's more normal amongst me and mine because we talk about comedy/jokes we like/etc aaaallllllllllllll the fucking time.

    idk if there's a way for me to prove this. you can test me!

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  • TavTav regular Registered User regular
    My language wasn't exact with the accreditation thing. I don't care if someone says "oh that was a mitch joke" but going full on with "I haven't slept for ten days because that would be too long" and acting as if you came up with it, that is what I have a problem with.

  • InquisitorInquisitor regular Registered User regular
    Next time I do some basic addition to figure out how much I need to pay on the bill I'll make sure to name drop my 1st grade teacher.

    Wouldn't want people to think that I am smarter than I really am.

  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx regular Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    @Echo how are you liking ESO, im kind of interested

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    Yeah man, I tell ya what, man, that dang ol' internet, man, you just go in on there and point and click, talk about w-w-dot-w-com, mean you got the naked chicks on there, man, just go click, click, click, click, click, it's real easy, man.
  • TavTav regular Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    So, the idea that a regular person repeating, reusing or otherwise appropriating a joke is somehow wrong and that accreditation is a moral responsibility? It's wrong.

    There is no such moral imperative. It's not how comedy or communication works. And jokes aren't things to be protected, they are things to be told.

    Noooooooooope.

    edit: To actually address your point. You're in academia, right? How would you feel if someone used your work in an academic paper without citing it? How would you feel about using someone else's work without citing it?

    Tav on
  • OrganichuOrganichu jacobkosh Registered User regular
    i mean i would never lie and say 'yes i came up with this'... or like, if the conversation were specifically 'ok, come up with a good pun on this' or whatever? like a rare circumstance where it's mutually understood that we're ad-libbing? obvs i would qualify it then

    but generally if it fits a moment that's ok. sometimes the other people are big on comedy and the same sort of media i am, and i don't have to credit it. but if they're not i don't try and squeeze it in. if everyone's laughing and there's a moment of nothing i might add 'yeah, the first time i heard that from someone i almost shit my pants' or whatever

    but very often i don't attribute it, it would feel weird to i think for my conversational style

    QuidPowerpuppiesjakobagger
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