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Prison Facts "They" Don't Want You To Know About

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  • PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    I don't remember in high school ever learning that any aboriginals even existed beyond the late 1800s

  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
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    tynic wrote: »
    sure empires come and go, but if Countdown was cancelled there'd be riots nation-wide.

    You should make a Countdown robot, one that's able to draw the cards and announce what they are.

    I have never heard of this Countdown thing before!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfa3MHLLSWI

    Crazy, a math-based game show?

    Oh, no, that's just one round. The other rounds are letter/word based, they draw 9 letters (choosing either consonant or vowel) and try to make the longest valid word possible out of those letters within a time limit.

    Why haven't we stolen this yet?

    A startling display of sanity on behalf of the TV networks?

    Letters and Numbers is pretty popular on SBS. It's fun to watch if there's nothing else on.

    wait, I don't know about this -what is it? when is it on? how long has it been on? Is there an SBS cultural institution I'm not aware of? what??!?

    I haven't watched it in quite a while because I'm a flash cunt with Foxtel, so I don't know. It's basically countdown, though.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmQyyiAiATA
    I don't watch it because it was cancelled like two years ago.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Aww. :'(

  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I looked it up and it only started in 2010, so I've been out if the country for the entire run of the show.

    I'm ok with that.

  • IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost Registered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    Well there were several colonies in America.

    But I just read up on it, and apparently up to a quarter of American colonists were convicts.

    This is literally the first time I heard about that.

    yeah i mean i don't know whether it was, like, virginia or maryland specifically, i think it was just all of them

    regardless

    this means you can never give us shit about being criminals ever again
    Tube wrote: »
    also what they need to do with australian history is contextualize it as part of the history of south-east asia

    This is such a great idea that I can't believe that I've never come even close to thinking about it.

    nobody ever thinks about australia in those terms because they don't fucking teach it

    I think Georgia was the largest colony with prisoners. Or at least debtors.

    This intrigued me, because I also had an impression that Georgia was specifically targeted as a place for penal transportation for the Crown. Did some quick research and it seems that actually Georgia was originally a completely volunteer-only colony, and in fact slavery wasn't permitted there for a couple decades (after it was demonstrated that they needed way more numbers to be successful/profitable). Georgia was founded largely as a buffer colony since Florida was owned by Spain.

    Anyway! I agree that the popular opinion was that Britain did not do a whole lot of penal transportation to the American colonies, and it turns out that I thought that largely because such a thing was actively written out of the historical narrative shortly after the American Revolution.

    I found this article, which is part of a series on penal transportation in America, and it suggests that up until the Revolution around nine percent of all immigrants to the Colonies were there because they'd been sentenced to be. New England in general, and Virginia in particular were favorite recipients of convicts. Virginia makes sense of course, it being the largest and perceived to be the most loyal of all the Colonies.

    Other fun facts: about 75% of people living in the Colonies up until the revolution were there against their will/sans liberty. Nearly half were slaves, nearly 20% indentured servants, the afore-mentioned individuals sentenced to transportation....

    Basically the Patriots that American students are taught to revere so highly were an absurd minority.

  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    What? But I've always been told that if I just bootstrap hard enough I too can be a rich old white man.

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    What? But I've always been told that if I just bootstrap hard enough I too can be a rich old white man.

    You totes can!

    Just gotta find one that died, before anyone knows they died.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    I'm not sure how you would call the iran-contra situation, regardless of the hostage situation, anything but treason. that's what selling weapons to enemies of the US is.

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Countdown was never the same after Richard Whitely died.

    Also, five years of history:

    1 - Rome, 1066, Norman invasion of Ireland
    2 - Glossing over of Plantagenet kings, Tudor Britain and the Reformation
    3 - Irish Uprising of 1641, Cromwell's Irish Campaign, 1688-1690, the Famine, the Home Rule movement.
    4 - Ireland in the 20th Century, Easter Rising, War of Independence, Civil War, the Troubles. Also, History of Medicine.
    5 - Germany 1919-1945

  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    much of american history was taught to us by John Wayne and Clint Eastwood, so there you go

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  • LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    All I can remember from my school history classes is studying WWII.

    I'm sure we did other stuff too but I'll be damned if I can remember what.

    So much world war two.

  • PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    I think my high school had two electives, in different years, which would cover WW2 for each full year, in addition to covering it in our regular history class.

  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    I remember learning about WWII in primary school. I got a really good mark for my drawing of a sad refugee kid with his gas mask hanging around his neck.

    Secondary school was more about WWI I think. I remember trenchfoot and mustard gas and we took a trip to Belgium.

    Also Romans, Egyptians, pioneers in the American west, Horatio Nelson, medieval farming and the feudal system, the fire of London and Black Death, shitloads about the Victorians, slavery, and how brilliant/awful the British empire was. I liked history a lot.

  • Halos Nach TariffHalos Nach Tariff Can you blame me? I'm too famous.Registered User regular
    Come to think of it I do remember doing some stuff on the Industrial Revolution too which was slightly more interesting than WWII.
    I never took History for GCSE mind so I probably missed a lot of stuff there.

    And of course now I'm surrounded by History graduates which makes me feel like a right idiot half the time.

  • Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    My history class from first grade to the first half of 10th grade was always the same deal

    Pilgrims
    Revolutionary War
    Civil War

    Repeat every single year

    Tenth grade on up turned into "Here is a list of all the shitty things America did enjoy"

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  • LiiyaLiiya Registered User regular
    Come to think of it I do remember doing some stuff on the Industrial Revolution too which was slightly more interesting than WWII.
    I never took History for GCSE mind so I probably missed a lot of stuff there.

    And of course now I'm surrounded by History graduates which makes me feel like a right idiot half the time.

    I really enjoyed Industrial Revolution too!

    I've been learning about the history of landscape architecture too, its really interesting! Did you know that Central Park was an imitation of the first London park built for the public to improve social conditions during the industrial revolution? Now you do!

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
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    ronald reagan was a traitor. there isn't really any way around that fact.

    Please explain?

    This might have happened

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbLD2JyFAlE

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    yeah, but it was nice being made to look like a conspiracy nut over something that is a historical fact.

    Jars on
  • Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Oh yeah I just remembered we did do loads of WWII in secondary school. Because in primary school we covered the Blitz and evacuations and stuff. But they left the holocaust until like year 9. Which was probably a sensible idea as it was disturbing enough at that age.

    I also had a morbid love for learning about Victorian medical science. Amputations without anaesthesia! Dissecting pigs! No knowledge of sterile technique! Operations on screaming patients in front of an audience! Lovely stuff.

  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    world war 1 is the one we covered over and over and over again

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  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Mysst wrote: »
    much of american history was taught to us by John Wayne and Clint Eastwood, so there you go

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  • BotznoyBotznoy Registered User regular
    Egypt, Rome and WWII repeat until sick.

    This was every year for all 13 years of my state sponsored education

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    To be fair, if you're a European knowing about Rome is pretty crucial to the understanding of your entire culture.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    To be fair, if you're a European knowing about Rome is pretty crucial to the understanding of your entire culture.

    rome literally affected every culture, except for MAYBE pacific islands, in some capacity

  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    One year we spent on the history of Louisiana, which is actually pretty interesting.

  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    To be fair, if you're a European knowing about Rome is pretty crucial to the understanding of your entire culture.

    rome literally affected every culture, except for MAYBE pacific islands, in some capacity

    And yet we tend to not learn anything about the various civilizations inhabiting Persia, despite their cultural influence on everything from philosophy to statescraft to religion..

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  • PhotosaurusPhotosaurus Bay Area, CARegistered User regular
    Growing up in Virginia it was all about the colonies as a kid, Jamestown in particular. I swear we spent at least six weeks each year from kindergarten to 5th grade on Jamestown.

    What always baffled me was the complete lack of focus on post-WWII. I never once had a middle or high school class progress beyond Korea and Vietnam.

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    To be fair, if you're a European knowing about Rome is pretty crucial to the understanding of your entire culture.

    rome literally affected every culture, except for MAYBE pacific islands, in some capacity

    And yet we tend to not learn anything about the various civilizations inhabiting Persia, despite their cultural influence on everything from philosophy to statescraft to religion..

    But they're brown, they didn't actually do anything important

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  • BotznoyBotznoy Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    To be fair, if you're a European knowing about Rome is pretty crucial to the understanding of your entire culture.

    rome literally affected every culture, except for MAYBE pacific islands, in some capacity

    And yet we tend to not learn anything about the various civilizations inhabiting Persia, despite their cultural influence on everything from philosophy to statescraft to religion..

    But they're brown, they didn't actually do anything important

    Brown and not christian

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    persians are not brown

  • Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    persians are not brown

    And neither are Native Americans 'red' but here we are.

  • WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    I had to do a year of Oklahoma history

    Soooooooooooo boring

  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    I had to do a year of Oklahoma history

    Soooooooooooo boring

    How many months were spent talking about the musical?

  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    texas history is such bullshit white-wash

    'ya ya go texas let's steal the land from the dirty mexicans and celebrate our victory stealing shit from them ya! it's like the american revolution in texas hella ya 'merica!'

  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Working in Boston is kind of weird because of all the historical stuff I pass on the way to work. Though the Old Corner Bookstore is now a Chipotle.

  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    There is a conspiracy theory which alleges that before he was elected, Reagan plotted with the Iranians to delay releasing hostages until after the election.

    The hostages were released shortly after Reagan was inaugurated.

    The conspiracy theory then alleges they the Iran-Contra affair was, in part, payback for Iran's cooperation with the "plot."

    no, a different set of American hostages being held in Lebanon were the actual object of the Iran-Contra deal, which you need not believe had anything to do with the Iranian hostage crisis in order to understand that it was treason as described in the Constitution

    although a discreet "just hang on and a new POTUS can give you a better deal" message to the Iranians during the election wouldn't have been that far out of character for his administration

  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Working in Boston is kind of weird because of all the historical stuff I pass on the way to work. Though the Old Corner Bookstore is now a Chipotle.

    Yeah and the Giant Tea Kettle now marks a Starbucks, but what can ya do? I miss Boston quite a bit sometimes.

  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    I travelled the states and stayed in boston for a while. After the super easygoing trip through California, where nationalism really didn't stick through, I got to Boston and every thing was just screaming AMERICA

  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    I travelled the states and stayed in boston for a while. After the super easygoing trip through California, where nationalism really didn't stick through, I got to Boston and every thing was just screaming AMERICA

    Yeah...how AMURIKAH America is usuallly depends on where you're vvisiting

  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I travelled the states and stayed in boston for a while. After the super easygoing trip through California, where nationalism really didn't stick through, I got to Boston and every thing was just screaming AMERICA

    Yeah...how AMURIKAH America is usuallly depends on where you're vvisiting

    I guess Boston was more "BOSTOOOON" than "AMERICA" though. Arizona was fairly interesting, I was in Tucson which has a pretty strong left counterculture. Some friends were wild pro-Warfare anti-socialists, and some were spending their lives utterly perplexed as to why people thought that way.

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