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Li'l Avengers

Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished BovineThe PIT, level 26Registered User regular
edited September 2007 in Graphic Violence
For those of you who watched the Doctor Strange DVD movie, you may have noticed a trailer for Marvel's next big animated direct to DVD project. The trailer is located here:

http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_xevidmegafx&Itemid=139&func=detail&id=1189

Essentially, it's Li'l Avengers, the kids of the original Avengers, all drawn Disney style. We've got little Hawkeye, little Captain America, little Black Panther (yo), and so on. There's even Thor Girl and Wasp Boy. In the words of the video, it's "Growing the brand and bringing in new fans into the Marvel Universe, only it's all new, different characters, who are kids. Oh, and all the original Avengers are dead. And it's 20 years later."

One guy literally says "We're gonna re-invent the characters again, as they have been a hundred times before, without losing what we expect to see" while showing pictures of a withered, 80-year old Tony Stark.

Yeah.

All in all, it's pretty horrible looking.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Are they really calling him Wasp Boy, I thought that was supposed to be Yellowjacket.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Though it doesn't look all that good, I hope that this is a sign that they'll start doing some even more obscure/new characters for these. A movie based off Deadpool, Iron Fist, or Daredevil would be pretty swank.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    The Iron Fist live-action movie is in development now. I don't know how new this is, but the last time I heard about this, they didn't have anybody set to do anything. Now, it's got a writer, director, and the actor who plays Danny confirmed.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Oh yeah, I'd forgotten all about that. Good to hear it's moving along.

    Still, I want my obscure Marvel toons. I'd love to see Runawaus, New Warriors, League of Losers, Moon Knight, and all kinds of other dudes get a movie that normally wouldn't be considered for a bigger budget, live action film.

    Here's a question though. Are these movies actually turning a profit? Looking at IMDB they didn't have any kind of financial information available, so I'm curious whether or not these are doing well enough to keep being made. I'd assume so since they're still pumping them out pretty regularly.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    direct to dvd animation is fairly cheap to make I imagine

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  • VirralVirral Registered User
    edited September 2007
    I think this would maybe work better as a series than a movie, but chances are the plan would be to turn it into an ongoing series if it sells well.

    It wasn't quite as bad as I was expecting from the OP, the title Li'l Avengers made me think of this kind of style:

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    Still, it is far from promising based on what I saw in that trailer.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Hey, we all thought Batman Beyond was going to suck. And it awesome.

    But yeah, this going to suck.

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    Pac Man's character is difficult to explain even to the Japanese -- he is an innocent character. He hasn't been educated to discern between good and evil. He acts more like a small child than a grown-up person. Think of him as a child learning in the course of his daily activities. If someone tells him guns are evil, he would be the type to rush out and eat guns. But he would most probably eat any gun, even the pistols of policemen who need them.
  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    So instead of using existing characters like the Young Avengers, they've decided to make new characters to shake things up?

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Malkor wrote: »
    So instead of using existing characters like the Young Avengers, they've decided to make new characters to shake things up?

    Too be fair, the Young Avengers have complicated or unclear origins and for something clearly targetted at a young audience I'm fairly confident Marvel wants to avoid the drama of either having a gay couple or getting a bunch of shit for omitting that part of the characters.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The more Marvel cartoons, the better the odds of getting a NEXTWAVE cartoon.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The more Marvel cartoons, the better the odds of getting a NEXTWAVE cartoon.

    You don't honestly believe that...do you?

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Lol! wrote: »
    The Iron Fist live-action movie is in development now. I don't know how new this is, but the last time I heard about this, they didn't have anybody set to do anything. Now, it's got a writer, director, and the actor who plays Danny confirmed.

    Don't come in here and say that without actually naming them!

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Bloods End wrote: »
    The more Marvel cartoons, the better the odds of getting a NEXTWAVE cartoon.

    You don't honestly believe that...do you?

    It's on the docket for production, right after the Power Pack/Howard the Duck After-School Special.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Lol! wrote: »
    The Iron Fist live-action movie is in development now. I don't know how new this is, but the last time I heard about this, they didn't have anybody set to do anything. Now, it's got a writer, director, and the actor who plays Danny confirmed.

    Don't come in here and say that without actually naming them!

    the guy who wrote Hulk, the guy who directed "Are we done yet" and the guy who killed Qui-gon Jinn

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    1) Which Hulk?

    2) And what else?

    3) Ray Park yay!

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    1) Which Hulk?

    2) And what else?

    3) Ray Park yay!

    1) ang lee

    2) Nothing

    3) i wonder if he's been working with a accent coach.

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  • DMACDMAC Moderator mod
    edited September 2007
    I think this movie is going to be awesome.

    I have a rare psychological disorder which causes me to believe anything someone wearing a cowboy hat tells me.

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  • ManonvonSuperockManonvonSuperock Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    seems like they're just trying to play off the mild popularity that wb had with the teen titans cartoons. i hate how shitty all of these marvel cartoons have been.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Man what. Since when have plain ol' heroes not been cool and exciting enough for young people to like? It worked for us.

    I mean, there's precedent for this in Teen Titans, but I consider that to suck as well.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Except that the Teen Titans are actually real characters

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    And it was good.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    And I'd say it was a bit more than "mildly popular". It was Cartoon Network's highest rated show until WB Animation caught a bad case of Stupid Executive-itis and canned it.

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  • delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    i have good hopes for this show.

    if you guys dont like it, dont buy it. its a show aimed for kids. its like calling sesame street shitty because it doesnt have the action that 24 has.

    this might be something fun to get my little cousins to start reading comics. we watched ultimate avengers together (censored iron-man's womanizing of black widow at the bar), and they liked it. i know my littlest cousin was asking me about the origin of captain america and why the hulk changes to a human.

    realize that kids these days dont even know what the fuck a popeye is.
    cut marvel a break for trying to reintroduce the hero phenomena we love to people who dont know it at all

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  • IrohIroh Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Could this really be all that bad with Kyle and Yost writing the screenplay for it? I've already accepted that it's not for me, though.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    And it had Ron Fucking Perlman as deathstroke the terminator!

    How cool is that?

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Except that the Teen Titans are actually real characters

    And much better in that way than this thing. But the concept of a child or young teen squad of heroes bothers me anyways, and seems unnecessary.

    Although, I'm no marketing whiz, maybe a lot of kids actually do prefer their heroes to be going through puberty.

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The PIT, level 26Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    delphinus wrote: »
    i have good hopes for this show.

    if you guys dont like it, dont buy it. its a show aimed for kids. its like calling sesame street shitty because it doesnt have the action that 24 has.

    this might be something fun to get my little cousins to start reading comics. we watched ultimate avengers together (censored iron-man's womanizing of black widow at the bar), and they liked it. i know my littlest cousin was asking me about the origin of captain america and why the hulk changes to a human.

    realize that kids these days dont even know what the fuck a popeye is.
    cut marvel a break for trying to reintroduce the hero phenomena we love to people who dont know it at all

    But why can't it appeal both to kids and to older fans, like that new Spider-Man cartoon that's coming out? That looks cool because it's Spider-Man and all his foes, but he's like 15 years old, so yay, he's a kid too. I'd rather have the teenage Avengers being trained by Captain America or something rather than brand new characters trained by old Tony. Also, I'd rather have fucking Ultimate Galactus or the Kree-Skrull war than teenage Avengers in any form.

    Maybe it'll turn out to be awesome after all, but I remain un-gripped thus far.

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  • delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    delphinus wrote: »
    i have good hopes for this show.

    if you guys dont like it, dont buy it. its a show aimed for kids. its like calling sesame street shitty because it doesnt have the action that 24 has.

    this might be something fun to get my little cousins to start reading comics. we watched ultimate avengers together (censored iron-man's womanizing of black widow at the bar), and they liked it. i know my littlest cousin was asking me about the origin of captain america and why the hulk changes to a human.

    realize that kids these days dont even know what the fuck a popeye is.
    cut marvel a break for trying to reintroduce the hero phenomena we love to people who dont know it at all

    But why can't it appeal both to kids and to older fans, like that new Spider-Man cartoon that's coming out? That looks cool because it's Spider-Man and all his foes, but he's like 15 years old, so yay, he's a kid too. I'd rather have the teenage Avengers being trained by Captain America or something rather than brand new characters trained by old Tony. Also, I'd rather have fucking Ultimate Galactus or the Kree-Skrull war than teenage Avengers in any form.

    Maybe it'll turn out to be awesome after all, but I remain un-gripped thus far.

    cyanned for similar thoughts.

    we just cant have our cake and eat it too. too many shows have tried to walk the line of adult and younger viewer content amalgam and have fallen off. shows that have gotten it right in the past is justice league, animaniacs, Avatar, Pinky and the Brain etc.

    but other shows that tried to walk that line either fail/get cancelled/ or changed. the x-men cartoon had to cut back on the violence hence increased shitty ness in later episodes.
    batman beyond got the axe for being too violent for youth audiences. if the show were like spielberg's cartoon roswell, (a cartoon drama aimed for adults) it would probably keep going.
    tom and jerry got away with INSANE amount of cartoon violence for a long while but got retooled by another company (with worse art) and got toned down :(

    marvel's new studio allows them to take risks for new genre's but trying to balance the adult+younger theme takes a bit of doing. kudos to them for taking a safe route for an already unpopular idea.
    for now, lets not bitch. its been done before and is tiring. just sit back, relax and enjoy your passtime/hobby/guilty pleasure. if you dont like it,while others do, you just dont like it and that sucks. but at least theyre still keeping comic heroes alive.

    but if some people wanna keep bitching about new ideas, feel free to sit back in your cheetoh stained chair and laugh and me through your computer about how you were right and i was wrong.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    delphinus wrote: »
    i have good hopes for this show.

    if you guys dont like it, dont buy it. its a show aimed for kids. its like calling sesame street shitty because it doesnt have the action that 24 has.

    this might be something fun to get my little cousins to start reading comics. we watched ultimate avengers together (censored iron-man's womanizing of black widow at the bar), and they liked it. i know my littlest cousin was asking me about the origin of captain america and why the hulk changes to a human.

    realize that kids these days dont even know what the fuck a popeye is.
    cut marvel a break for trying to reintroduce the hero phenomena we love to people who dont know it at all

    But why can't it appeal both to kids and to older fans, like that new Spider-Man cartoon that's coming out? That looks cool because it's Spider-Man and all his foes, but he's like 15 years old, so yay, he's a kid too. I'd rather have the teenage Avengers being trained by Captain America or something rather than brand new characters trained by old Tony. Also, I'd rather have fucking Ultimate Galactus or the Kree-Skrull war than teenage Avengers in any form.

    Maybe it'll turn out to be awesome after all, but I remain un-gripped thus far.

    It takes a careful writer to balance it enough that both kids and adults like it. Not everyone can pull it off, or even want to pull it off all the time. It effects whatever story you're trying to tell.

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