On that note, guys - might be worth hanging on to some gems and crafting Tera booster packs after the game goes live on Steam on the 16th. I have a sneaking suspicion Tera cards are going to go for a good price. I could be wildly wrong, of course, but.... wait, no. I'm never wrong. What was I thinking?
On that note, guys - might be worth hanging on to some gems and crafting Tera booster packs after the game goes live on Steam on the 16th. I have a sneaking suspicion Tera cards are going to go for a good price. I could be wildly wrong, of course, but.... wait, no. I'm never wrong. What was I thinking?
On that note, guys - might be worth hanging on to some gems and crafting Tera booster packs after the game goes live on Steam on the 16th. I have a sneaking suspicion Tera cards are going to go for a good price. I could be wildly wrong, of course, but.... wait, no. I'm never wrong. What was I thinking?
Just a thought, though.
Cards with boobies, popular on Steam? That's just silly. :razz:
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On that note, guys - might be worth hanging on to some gems and crafting Tera booster packs after the game goes live on Steam on the 16th. I have a sneaking suspicion Tera cards are going to go for a good price. I could be wildly wrong, of course, but.... wait, no. I'm never wrong. What was I thinking?
Just a thought, though.
Assuming it's not fixed by then
You're assuming it's a bug. I'm not sure it is.
Either way, I'll be fine. I spend real money in Tera (oh god too much of it), so I'll have card access either way. So nener nener. :razz:
Are emoticons/backgrounds from Valve games/events the only ones that are worth 100 gems? Can't find anything non-valve above 80 gems.
Couple F2P ones are too.
War of the Roses, Dungeonland were the ones I found.
Which leads me to another question. Are there any 100 gem items still left for 3 cents? They seem to all be up to 5 cents now which means it's much better to buy 80 gem items for 3 cents.
Are emoticons/backgrounds from Valve games/events the only ones that are worth 100 gems? Can't find anything non-valve above 80 gems.
Couple F2P ones are too.
War of the Roses, Dungeonland were the ones I found.
Which leads me to another question. Are there any 100 gem items still left for 3 cents? They seem to all be up to 5 cents now which means it's much better to buy 80 gem items for 3 cents.
Not that I could find, no.
Still some 4 cents floating around, but those are getting snapped up, too.
On that note, guys - might be worth hanging on to some gems and crafting Tera booster packs after the game goes live on Steam on the 16th. I have a sneaking suspicion Tera cards are going to go for a good price. I could be wildly wrong, of course, but.... wait, no. I'm never wrong. What was I thinking?
Just a thought, though.
I did not realize that Tera wss hitting Steam on the 16th
Enjoy the auction, because people don't seem to be thinking this through. At 4 cents/80 gems, that's 50 cents for 1000 gems, so about 50 cents per booster pack - maybe average for boosters (some cases are higher, most of them float in the 30-40 cent range). So if you're looking to sell items, during the auction is your best bet.
I'm still waffling if I want to craft into gems or try to sell mine.
I was under the impression that F2P card drops were based off of amount of money you put into the game.
It is, but you can make boosters for them if they're in your library.
I already made one for Mabinogi and it's still downloading, it sold already too.
Be warned though that this will catch on and the price will plummet for all the F2P games. I've already seen it on another F2P game where the prices went from over $1 a card two days ago down to 0.30 and dropping today as people are way eager to race to the bottom.
5 pages of steam thread? yeah not reading them. I like my marriage. This thread is not worth it. weird meta game. I'm out on that too... Secret Santa was fun. I will be back to read the thread, next Wednesday?
5 pages of steam thread? yeah not reading them. I like my marriage. This thread is not worth it. weird meta game. I'm out on that too... Secret Santa was fun. I will be back to read the thread, next Wednesday?
So you're posting to say you're not reading the thread you're posting in?
Are emoticons/backgrounds from Valve games/events the only ones that are worth 100 gems? Can't find anything non-valve above 80 gems.
Couple F2P ones are too.
War of the Roses, Dungeonland were the ones I found.
Which leads me to another question. Are there any 100 gem items still left for 3 cents? They seem to all be up to 5 cents now which means it's much better to buy 80 gem items for 3 cents.
Not that I could find, no.
Still some 4 cents floating around, but those are getting snapped up, too.
Yeah but still not worth it. It's better to buy 80gems for 3cents than 100gems for 4cents.
I wonder if gem values on items are refreshed at some point based on the population of that item then.
Edit: To clarify, I wonder if it will happen at some point in the future. As opposed to happening all the time. Otherwise some of the 100 point items would have already shifted down most likely.
Also, for pure giggles and in light of recent posts and Steam's twisted sense of humor...
If we top $7500, I will purchase acquire somehow (before the end of January) the terribad gender bender game and play through it to completion with one of the playable characters. For every $500 over $7500 that is reached, I will re-play it with a different character, up to all 13 characters (it says there are 13, anyway)... whatever that math works out to be. You can inflict up to THIRTEEN COMPLETIONS of this on me! Bring it on!
These will not be LPs as I have proven incapable of doing LPs. But they will be 100% completions, probably with lots of facepalm-inducing screenshots and groanworthy Pixie commentary.
(edit: on further reading, there may not be 13 playable character. I guess just 8 right now? Whatever, that's a lot of weird, so let's do this thing :razz: )
If female characters are too expensive for Ubisoft, imagine how hard it was for an indie to do two versions of each character!
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The second review of Gender thingy is pretty in-depth, and mentions that only a couple of characters have any elements of story choices involved. Probably worth reading it (if you haven't already) when you're deciding on which characters you're playing with
Edit: Steam reviews, it's a negative. Perhaps unsurpisingly
5 pages of steam thread? yeah not reading them. I like my marriage. This thread is not worth it. weird meta game. I'm out on that too... Secret Santa was fun. I will be back to read the thread, next Wednesday?
So you're posting to say you're not reading the thread you're posting in?
Was sitting at the bus stop waiting for the bus home from work and had literally just finished reading the last post in a days worth of Steam thread when an email pops up. My friend @SoundsPlush has sent me a gift! One I've had my eye on for quite some time too. Came close to posting thanks by phone right then but figured with such a classy gift I should wait the half hour to get home and do it up proper.
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We have Bad Rats, Infestation: Survivor Stories, and now Gender Bender DNA Twister Extreme.
If you unite these three on the same Steam library, you will wind up summoning the Anti-Gaben and possibly bring an end to Steam sales for all eternity.
So, since I now own all three... if this happens, Nobody is to blame.
Y'all still have to get the charity to $7500 though! :razz:
5 pages of steam thread? yeah not reading them. I like my marriage. This thread is not worth it. weird meta game. I'm out on that too... Secret Santa was fun. I will be back to read the thread, next Wednesday?
So you're posting to say you're not reading the thread you're posting in?
Oh, that explains why Advanced Warfare was looking like deep-fried butts.
Apparently it defaulted the "Render Resolution" to "Low", so that it was rendering at something tiny like 930x600ish, and then stretching it out to fill 1920x1080. Cranked it up to Native, and it still runs fine.
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The list of auction titles seems to be going up (the total pages was 133 yesterday, and it's 135 now), and I'm pretty sure the newly added titles aren't on the first or last pages when sorted by relevance. If you sort by release date the list gets smaller. This seems completely absurd.
Between Steam, Origin, MWO, various console-PC releases, and so on, I feel like there's some kind of ongoing competition for the worst game-related UI* in the world, and although I'm not sure if Valve is winning they're certainly putting up a good fight.
*Industrial UI being in a world of its own, one where time stopped when Windows 3.1 came out
Just going to say that after transaction fees and insurance for fraud on so many transactions that the amount Valve is going to make off of this is probably way less then you're thinking.
Having done transaction paperwork for a couple companies I can tell you that even if by some grace of God they literally make a million dollars in transaction fees (or 50,000,000 sales at .03 an item.) Their actual takeaway would be about $200k. Maybe. That's assuming they have really good merchant contracts for transaction fees and they lump then efficiently.
Yep. Totally rolling in money.
It's not that bad.
They don't pay transaction fees to credit companies on every marketplace item sold, they only pay transaction fees anytime you're actually adding money to your wallet or when buying a game/DLC.
Valve paying a few cents plus x% (your typical merchant contract) on every $0.03 card sale would be a disaster, but merchant fees on larger transactions aren't as bad. This is why the minimum amount you can add to your Steam wallet is $5 (the PSN and XBL are the same way).
Valve's "Transaction Fees" listed on marketplace purchases is different from merchant transaction fees, and after you factor in the cost of running the marketplace itself is just free money. Ten to fifteen percent of every marketplace transaction going right back into their pockets is probably a ridiculous amount of money.
Transaction fees range from .10+5% to .40+2% and various things in between in my experience
But, but, what you're missing is that in any transaction wherein there is money being moved, it has to be insured.
Half that transaction fee is going to fraud insurance. Which is paid per person to person transaction. Then act added cost of any support needing to be done, having developers on have to fix problems and work on load balancer, etc.
Like I said, they would possibly, in the end, make 200k out of a million after all is said and done. (Including dealing with all the actual fraud.)
edit:
Holy shit, the forums are broken on Opera 12.14 and as a result my post turned into a bunch of tags.
Anyway, the only time there is a transaction fee is when money moves from your bank to Valve. Money only ever moves from your bank to Valve once.
There is no transaction fee for individual marketplace purchases, and they do not need to be insured, because you aren't buying something from Valve using money, you're buying something from Valve using wallet funds. The initial funding of your wallet is a regular transaction that has all of the requirements that regular credit/debit transactions carry, but once that money is in your wallet it isn't money anymore, it's essentially Valve company scrip. Their "insurance" is "if you do a chargeback or the card that was used to fund the wallet was stolen we'll ban your account and maybe additional accounts if the initial account sent them a lot of games/marketplace items because that means they are probably owned by the same person".
They are not making only $200k per million dollars of marketplace transactions, that is ridiculous.
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You don't even have to install them, just hit the download button on the store page, wait for the steam install prompt and cancel it.
Just a thought, though.
I wonder if that was intentional, or another accidental side effect . . . :eh:
Assuming it's not fixed by then
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Cards with boobies, popular on Steam? That's just silly. :razz:
You're assuming it's a bug. I'm not sure it is.
Either way, I'll be fine. I spend real money in Tera (oh god too much of it), so I'll have card access either way. So nener nener. :razz:
Couple F2P ones are too.
War of the Roses, Dungeonland were the ones I found.
Which leads me to another question. Are there any 100 gem items still left for 3 cents? They seem to all be up to 5 cents now which means it's much better to buy 80 gem items for 3 cents.
Not that I could find, no.
Still some 4 cents floating around, but those are getting snapped up, too.
I did not realize that Tera wss hitting Steam on the 16th
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Enjoy the auction, because people don't seem to be thinking this through. At 4 cents/80 gems, that's 50 cents for 1000 gems, so about 50 cents per booster pack - maybe average for boosters (some cases are higher, most of them float in the 30-40 cent range). So if you're looking to sell items, during the auction is your best bet.
I'm still waffling if I want to craft into gems or try to sell mine.
Be warned though that this will catch on and the price will plummet for all the F2P games. I've already seen it on another F2P game where the prices went from over $1 a card two days ago down to 0.30 and dropping today as people are way eager to race to the bottom.
We were forewarned of yeti shenanigans.
So you're posting to say you're not reading the thread you're posting in?
Yeah but still not worth it. It's better to buy 80gems for 3cents than 100gems for 4cents.
There it is then, the highest gem amounts are produced by the most numerous items. Valve and F2P stuff.
This game is specifically designed to clear out the junk from the market and raise prices.
I am in awe, actually. My wife is a microeconomics wonk, I need to show her all this and how it fits together.
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Edit: To clarify, I wonder if it will happen at some point in the future. As opposed to happening all the time. Otherwise some of the 100 point items would have already shifted down most likely.
Proof!
Also, for pure giggles and in light of recent posts and Steam's twisted sense of humor...
If we top $7500, I will purchase acquire somehow (before the end of January) the terribad gender bender game and play through it to completion with one of the playable characters. For every $500 over $7500 that is reached, I will re-play it with a different character, up to all 13 characters (it says there are 13, anyway)... whatever that math works out to be. You can inflict up to THIRTEEN COMPLETIONS of this on me! Bring it on!
These will not be LPs as I have proven incapable of doing LPs. But they will be 100% completions, probably with lots of facepalm-inducing screenshots and groanworthy Pixie commentary.
(edit: on further reading, there may not be 13 playable character. I guess just 8 right now? Whatever, that's a lot of weird, so let's do this thing :razz: )
If female characters are too expensive for Ubisoft, imagine how hard it was for an indie to do two versions of each character!
Edit: Steam reviews, it's a negative. Perhaps unsurpisingly
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then someone says BUT DUE YOU CAN USE GLORIOUS GEMS
and so I hop into gemworld and my goodness the top bids are insane.
what on earth is this. I imagine the bids hidden by the top bids are normal numbers right?
Well then.
On the community forums, I discovered this nugget of wisdom:
So, since I now own all three... if this happens, Nobody is to blame.
Y'all still have to get the charity to $7500 though! :razz:
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Apparently it defaulted the "Render Resolution" to "Low", so that it was rendering at something tiny like 930x600ish, and then stretching it out to fill 1920x1080. Cranked it up to Native, and it still runs fine.
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Between Steam, Origin, MWO, various console-PC releases, and so on, I feel like there's some kind of ongoing competition for the worst game-related UI* in the world, and although I'm not sure if Valve is winning they're certainly putting up a good fight.
*Industrial UI being in a world of its own, one where time stopped when Windows 3.1 came out
edit:
Holy shit, the forums are broken on Opera 12.14 and as a result my post turned into a bunch of tags.
Anyway, the only time there is a transaction fee is when money moves from your bank to Valve. Money only ever moves from your bank to Valve once.
There is no transaction fee for individual marketplace purchases, and they do not need to be insured, because you aren't buying something from Valve using money, you're buying something from Valve using wallet funds. The initial funding of your wallet is a regular transaction that has all of the requirements that regular credit/debit transactions carry, but once that money is in your wallet it isn't money anymore, it's essentially Valve company scrip. Their "insurance" is "if you do a chargeback or the card that was used to fund the wallet was stolen we'll ban your account and maybe additional accounts if the initial account sent them a lot of games/marketplace items because that means they are probably owned by the same person".
They are not making only $200k per million dollars of marketplace transactions, that is ridiculous.