I think try hard is reserved for when someone puts more effort into a friendly encounter than is really warranted
I've mainly used it when I pick something I'm not good at for fun and someone picks something they're the best at and they absolutely no mercy play to win
i just remember you yelling at me for my sub-optimal build from the other room and then hearing it again a split second later on vent.
ITT: I learned that reconciling my post-eric garner feelings with my political beliefs is hard.
The answer for you is:
"Burn it all down."
It is the only way.
Well, yes.
That's kind of how I feel.
Don't worry it is the right way to feel in many ways.
But take that anger and make it productive. You can't really burn the system down but you can try to reform it bits and pieces.
Mostly via being proactive.
This is going to get hella personal so I'm gonna put it in spoilers:
Well, while I've never been conservative, I've always had deep problems with some of the core tenants of what I guess you can call american liberalism
Mostly I was just shocked at how angry people got when trying to change other's views. MLK wasn't (outwardly) angry. Nelson Mandela wasn't angry. I always thought the best way to change the system was to change people's hearts and minds, and the best way to do that was to be a role model, to open frank dialogue. To try and change things iteratively, knowing that eventually things basically got better
but after the Eric Garner ruling and Ferguson, I felt like things aren't getting better. I felt, maybe for the first time, an undirected and undirectable anger at a system. And I'm tired of frank dialogue, I'm tired of the same old ignorant bullshit spouted by trite, unconvincing arguments. I'm tired of being tolerant.
Mandela did use violence before being in prison, though he didn't deliberately kill people with it.
Inspired by Fidel Castro's 26th of July Movement in the Cuban Revolution, in 1961 Mandela co-founded Umkhonto we Sizwe ("Spear of the Nation", abbreviated MK) with the long-time leader of the South African Communist Party (SACP), Joe Slovo and Walter Sisulu. Becoming chairman of the militant group, he gained ideas from illegal literature on guerilla warfare by Mao Zedong and Che Guevara. Officially separate from the ANC, in later years MK became the group's armed wing.[108] Most early MK members were white communists; after hiding in communist Wolfie Kodesh's flat in Berea, Mandela moved to the communist-owned Liliesleaf Farm in Rivonia, there joined by Raymond Mhlaba, Slovo and Bernstein, who put together the MK constitution.[109] Although Mandela himself denied ever being a member of the SACP, historical research published in 2011 strongly suggested that he might have been for a short period, starting from the late 1950s or early 1960s.[110] This was confirmed after his death by the SACP and the ANC. According to the SACP, he was not only a member of the party, but also served on the party's Central Committee, when he was arrested in 1962 and this was denied for political reasons.[111][112][113]
Mandela's former home in the Johannesburg township of Soweto
Operating through a cell structure, MK agreed to acts of sabotage to exert maximum pressure on the government with minimum casualties, bombing military installations, power plants, telephone lines and transport links at night, when civilians were not present. Mandela stated that they chose sabotage not only because it was the least harmful action, but also "because it did not involve loss of life [and] it offered the best hope for reconciliation among the races afterward." He noted that "strict instructions were given to members of MK that we would countenance no loss of life", but should these tactics fail, MK would resort to "guerilla warfare and terrorism".[114] Soon after ANC leader Luthuli was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, MK publicly announced its existence with 57 bombings on Dingane's Day (16 December) 1961, followed by further attacks on New Year's Eve.[115]
MLK was the good cop to Malcolm X's bad cop. He didn't operate alone as the sole authority in the Civil Rights movement. I'm not saying X was better, on the contrary, but at the time there was a call to react with violence against oppressors.
ITT: I learned that reconciling my post-eric garner feelings with my political beliefs is hard.
The answer for you is:
"Burn it all down."
It is the only way.
Well, yes.
That's kind of how I feel.
Don't worry it is the right way to feel in many ways.
But take that anger and make it productive. You can't really burn the system down but you can try to reform it bits and pieces.
Mostly via being proactive.
This is going to get hella personal so I'm gonna put it in spoilers:
Well, while I've never been conservative, I've always had deep problems with some of the core tenants of what I guess you can call american liberalism
Mostly I was just shocked at how angry people got when trying to change other's views. MLK wasn't (outwardly) angry. Nelson Mandela wasn't angry. I always thought the best way to change the system was to change people's hearts and minds, and the best way to do that was to be a role model, to open frank dialogue. To try and change things iteratively, knowing that eventually things basically got better
but after the Eric Garner ruling and Ferguson, I felt like things aren't getting better. I felt, maybe for the first time, an undirected and undirectable anger at a system. And I'm tired of frank dialogue, I'm tired of the same old ignorant bullshit spouted by trite, unconvincing arguments. I'm tired of being tolerant.
I think you missed something.
MLK was angry. Mandela was angry. Ghandi was angry. They were all angry. Their anger didn't dictate their tactics. They used the anger to fuel them. Non-violence, rational discussions and protest aren't tactics used by those without anger but those with anger.
Let the anger drive you but don't let it overcome you I think.
Yeah, it's easy to look back at those historical periods in retrospect and glorify the best parts of those people. But during his time, MLK was dismissed as "the angry negro" by his contemporaries, and he was fiery and angry.
However, I understand what you are saying, Greeper. At some point (different points, for different people), you start to feel that the system isn't just and that old ignorant bullshit has won the day. Some people, inoculated by their own lucky lot in life, may never reach this point. The recent rulings in Ferguson and NYC have started some hard conversations, crossing ideologies and party lines. I'm glad you're thinking about it, wherever you end up in the whole continuum.
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domesticated foxes and red pandas are beautiful animals, but not really particularly domesticated. owning a wild animal as a pet is pretty cruel imo - they just don't understand the environment or social milieu.
people who own birds as pets have a hole in their souls.
I beat someone in a vidya and they call me a try-hard and I kinda had to wonder if they meant it as an insult at first
yeah maybe I do try hard — I'm pretty happy with doing that.
tryhard is the most infuriating insult
I don't know what possessed these people to turn "I put effort into being good at something" into an insult but they are the worst people.
Go away, fking casuals. We are trying hard in this sphere.
I think you're seeing it from the wrong perspective. Imagine the guy who shows up to a friendly competition and flips the table. Whenever I hear the term try hard I associate it with the person who has to be reminded that it's just a game.
yeah i think i agree with this
i went to boardgame night with coworkers some years ago and i went hoping to drink a little and have fun and they came ready to compete at the peaks of their abilities
they were definitely tryhards
yeah OK DUE and Will
this is also annoying and I agree with this definition.
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cptruggedI think it has something to do with free will.Registered Userregular
i am a little frosty at nerds and social justice people for ruining fedoras
frankie bought me one like a decade ago and i wore it out to fancy things sometimes and thought it was smart!
and now they're ruined!
You could always not give a fuck what some asshole thinks and wear what you want?
Fashion is pretty much being good at caring what other people think, or if you're very good, controlling it
It is a valuable skill
Sometimes I think folks care to much.
I know I care to little. And this is a problem for me. I admit that. But the "X people wear Y and I don't like them so I wont wear Y" always seems shitty to me.
I think try hard is reserved for when someone puts more effort into a friendly encounter than is really warranted
I've mainly used it when I pick something I'm not good at for fun and someone picks something they're the best at and they absolutely no mercy play to win
i just remember you yelling at me for my sub-optimal build from the other room and then hearing it again a split second later on vent.
so hurtful
well
You needed to be a try some
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I think try hard is reserved for when someone puts more effort into a friendly encounter than is really warranted
I've mainly used it when I pick something I'm not good at for fun and someone picks something they're the best at and they absolutely no mercy play to win
Yeah
I think that it's when you care more about winning than having fun or playing with your bros.
If you no mercy pull out all the stops to win at all times and never have fun just doing something silly, you are a try hard.
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
I wonder how effective we would be today at domesticating wild animals, if there were some real efforts put into the field.
Probably those damn animal SJWs with their 'ethics', and 'preservation' stopping us. :P
Probably amazing! Look at the Russian fox study. Took a very short time to domesticate wild foxes through selective breeding
yeah it's not difficult it just takes time. You need several generations which for most animals people would want as pets means a couple decades at least.
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What about those golf looking hats?
I see dudes wearing those all the time. I'm surprised those have lasted as long as they have.
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Yeah I can see that
tryharding at something like a game of munchkin would be hilarious and also terrible
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I beat someone in a vidya and they call me a try-hard and I kinda had to wonder if they meant it as an insult at first
yeah maybe I do try hard — I'm pretty happy with doing that.
tryhard is the most infuriating insult
I don't know what possessed these people to turn "I put effort into being good at something" into an insult but they are the worst people.
Go away, fking casuals. We are trying hard in this sphere.
I think you're seeing it from the wrong perspective. Imagine the guy who shows up to a friendly competition and flips the table. Whenever I hear the term try hard I associate it with the person who has to be reminded that it's just a game.
yeah i think i agree with this
i went to boardgame night with coworkers some years ago and i went hoping to drink a little and have fun and they came ready to compete at the peaks of their abilities
ITT: I learned that reconciling my post-eric garner feelings with my political beliefs is hard.
The answer for you is:
"Burn it all down."
It is the only way.
Well, yes.
That's kind of how I feel.
Don't worry it is the right way to feel in many ways.
But take that anger and make it productive. You can't really burn the system down but you can try to reform it bits and pieces.
Mostly via being proactive.
This is going to get hella personal so I'm gonna put it in spoilers:
Well, while I've never been conservative, I've always had deep problems with some of the core tenants of what I guess you can call american liberalism
Mostly I was just shocked at how angry people got when trying to change other's views. MLK wasn't (outwardly) angry. Nelson Mandela wasn't angry. I always thought the best way to change the system was to change people's hearts and minds, and the best way to do that was to be a role model, to open frank dialogue. To try and change things iteratively, knowing that eventually things basically got better
but after the Eric Garner ruling and Ferguson, I felt like things aren't getting better. I felt, maybe for the first time, an undirected and undirectable anger at a system. And I'm tired of frank dialogue, I'm tired of the same old ignorant bullshit spouted by trite, unconvincing arguments. I'm tired of being tolerant.
Since this is chat:
The point where I turned a corner on a lot of these things is when I realized that there really is no reason black people should feel as integrated into our system as your average white person should (because in general your interests are hella represented).
And that not only should they basically not feel apart of the American dream, there are plenty of people who are okay with them remaining outside of it and some who are actively working to keep it that way. I don't necessarily feel the same way as the general consensus even here on cases like Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner or Micheal Brown but I can see why even regardless of guilt in each individual case, the system basically failed in advocating for truth in each instance.
The Micheal Brown grand jury and investigation leading up to it was a fucking farce and I feel like I can say that without qualification. And I'm not even entirely sure if Darren Wilson acted unlawfully in that case. But no one in the criminal justice system seemed to give a shit and that is where the disconnect is.
Fucking here in the tri-state area the police got their way %100 and they are still ready to riot over the perceived slight from DeBlasio in not helping them circle the wagons fast enough.
And all of these cases are just slice of life type things that only begin to reveal some of the systemic ways the deck is stacked against anyone unlucky enough to be born poor and brown.
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Irond WillWARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!!Cambridge. MAModeratormod
I think try hard is reserved for when someone puts more effort into a friendly encounter than is really warranted
I've mainly used it when I pick something I'm not good at for fun and someone picks something they're the best at and they absolutely no mercy play to win
i just remember you yelling at me for my sub-optimal build from the other room and then hearing it again a split second later on vent.
so hurtful
well
You needed to be a try some
this is great
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i am a little frosty at nerds and social justice people for ruining fedoras
frankie bought me one like a decade ago and i wore it out to fancy things sometimes and thought it was smart!
and now they're ruined!
You could always not give a fuck what some asshole thinks and wear what you want?
Fashion is pretty much being good at caring what other people think, or if you're very good, controlling it
It is a valuable skill
Sometimes I think folks care to much.
I know I care to little. And this is a problem for me. I admit that. But the "X people wear Y and I don't like them so I wont wear Y" always seems shitty to me.
i make an effort to look sharp, or at least intentional.
i am a little frosty at nerds and social justice people for ruining fedoras
frankie bought me one like a decade ago and i wore it out to fancy things sometimes and thought it was smart!
and now they're ruined!
You could always not give a fuck what some asshole thinks and wear what you want?
Fashion is pretty much being good at caring what other people think, or if you're very good, controlling it
It is a valuable skill
Sometimes I think folks care to much.
I know I care to little. And this is a problem for me. I admit that. But the "X people wear Y and I don't like them so I wont wear Y" always seems shitty to me.
It is shitty, but them's the breaks
A fedora (and any similar hat) means something now, and it is basically impossible to avoid that meaning when one wears it
Unless you are LITERALLY performing a period piece
I need some cardio I can do at home in my modest indoor space during winter
I am not going to leave the indoors when it's -30 but I can't just become a blob
I wonder if I can fit jump rope into my space
Leaving the gym immediately after a workout when it's -30 is actually godly feeling
(though, I understand a gym membership just isn't practical for lots of people)
That said, I'm sure you could set up something pretty easy; some hand weights, resistance tubes with a door mount, and a yoga mat is enough for a pretty thorough workout.
I think try hard is reserved for when someone puts more effort into a friendly encounter than is really warranted
I've mainly used it when I pick something I'm not good at for fun and someone picks something they're the best at and they absolutely no mercy play to win
i just remember you yelling at me for my sub-optimal build from the other room and then hearing it again a split second later on vent.
i am a little frosty at nerds and social justice people for ruining fedoras
frankie bought me one like a decade ago and i wore it out to fancy things sometimes and thought it was smart!
and now they're ruined!
You could always not give a fuck what some asshole thinks and wear what you want?
Fashion is pretty much being good at caring what other people think, or if you're very good, controlling it
It is a valuable skill
Sometimes I think folks care to much.
I know I care to little. And this is a problem for me. I admit that. But the "X people wear Y and I don't like them so I wont wear Y" always seems shitty to me.
It is shitty, but them's the breaks
A fedora (and any similar hat) means something now, and it is basically impossible to avoid that meaning when one wears it
Unless you are LITERALLY performing a period piece
This is the trivial tyranny of fashion
Here's a thing though. Like, where is this particular thing about Fedoras discussed? It seems like an internet meme present in a certain group. Nerds. Would like a guy who only surfs ESPN and CNN know about "m'lady"? I think folks think real hats are just too old fashioned and thats why they don't get worn. Not cause they all know about hat tipping neckbeards.
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I think try hard is reserved for when someone puts more effort into a friendly encounter than is really warranted
I've mainly used it when I pick something I'm not good at for fun and someone picks something they're the best at and they absolutely no mercy play to win
i just remember you yelling at me for my sub-optimal build from the other room and then hearing it again a split second later on vent.
i am a little frosty at nerds and social justice people for ruining fedoras
frankie bought me one like a decade ago and i wore it out to fancy things sometimes and thought it was smart!
and now they're ruined!
You could always not give a fuck what some asshole thinks and wear what you want?
Fashion is pretty much being good at caring what other people think, or if you're very good, controlling it
It is a valuable skill
Sometimes I think folks care to much.
I know I care to little. And this is a problem for me. I admit that. But the "X people wear Y and I don't like them so I wont wear Y" always seems shitty to me.
It is shitty, but them's the breaks
A fedora (and any similar hat) means something now, and it is basically impossible to avoid that meaning when one wears it
Unless you are LITERALLY performing a period piece
This is the trivial tyranny of fashion
No one actually cares that you're wearing a fedora unless they spend all their time on reddit, tumblr, or 4chan.
The average person has no idea what hat to associate with the term "m'lady" or wtf a "gamergate" is.
Nerds are the only ones who really care about nerd things.
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i just remember you yelling at me for my sub-optimal build from the other room and then hearing it again a split second later on vent.
so hurtful
very much this. I hate tumblr because they actually found a way to make a UI worse than facebook
Oh no. Don't throw me in the briar bushes, Tryhardamere
MLK was the good cop to Malcolm X's bad cop. He didn't operate alone as the sole authority in the Civil Rights movement. I'm not saying X was better, on the contrary, but at the time there was a call to react with violence against oppressors.
However, I understand what you are saying, Greeper. At some point (different points, for different people), you start to feel that the system isn't just and that old ignorant bullshit has won the day. Some people, inoculated by their own lucky lot in life, may never reach this point. The recent rulings in Ferguson and NYC have started some hard conversations, crossing ideologies and party lines. I'm glad you're thinking about it, wherever you end up in the whole continuum.
people who own birds as pets have a hole in their souls.
Like that guy desperately straining to fulfill the expectations for the archetype he wants to inhabit
Andre from The League and Mac from Always Sunny are tryhards in that way
Never don't work out.
you went to a good b-school. they needed to be.
Probably amazing! Look at the Russian fox study. Took a very short time to domesticate wild foxes through selective breeding
And being pretty.
Being pretty opens a lot of doors wrt to fashion.
yeah OK DUE and Will
this is also annoying and I agree with this definition.
Sometimes I think folks care to much.
I know I care to little. And this is a problem for me. I admit that. But the "X people wear Y and I don't like them so I wont wear Y" always seems shitty to me.
well
You needed to be a try some
both caniforms so way more related to dogs than cats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox
EDIT: And beat'ed. Damn.
Yeah
I think that it's when you care more about winning than having fun or playing with your bros.
If you no mercy pull out all the stops to win at all times and never have fun just doing something silly, you are a try hard.
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
yeah it's not difficult it just takes time. You need several generations which for most animals people would want as pets means a couple decades at least.
I see dudes wearing those all the time. I'm surprised those have lasted as long as they have.
tryharding at something like a game of munchkin would be hilarious and also terrible
MAYBE THEY SMELLED "SPY" ON YOU
I am not going to leave the indoors when it's -30 but I can't just become a blob
I wonder if I can fit jump rope into my space
Since this is chat:
And that not only should they basically not feel apart of the American dream, there are plenty of people who are okay with them remaining outside of it and some who are actively working to keep it that way. I don't necessarily feel the same way as the general consensus even here on cases like Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner or Micheal Brown but I can see why even regardless of guilt in each individual case, the system basically failed in advocating for truth in each instance.
The Micheal Brown grand jury and investigation leading up to it was a fucking farce and I feel like I can say that without qualification. And I'm not even entirely sure if Darren Wilson acted unlawfully in that case. But no one in the criminal justice system seemed to give a shit and that is where the disconnect is.
Fucking here in the tri-state area the police got their way %100 and they are still ready to riot over the perceived slight from DeBlasio in not helping them circle the wagons fast enough.
And all of these cases are just slice of life type things that only begin to reveal some of the systemic ways the deck is stacked against anyone unlucky enough to be born poor and brown.
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this is great
How are you?
i make an effort to look sharp, or at least intentional.
Cinders! Hi!
I'm doing ok...life was being life so I haven't been around. How are you?
It is shitty, but them's the breaks
A fedora (and any similar hat) means something now, and it is basically impossible to avoid that meaning when one wears it
Unless you are LITERALLY performing a period piece
This is the trivial tyranny of fashion
Leaving the gym immediately after a workout when it's -30 is actually godly feeling
(though, I understand a gym membership just isn't practical for lots of people)
That said, I'm sure you could set up something pretty easy; some hand weights, resistance tubes with a door mount, and a yoga mat is enough for a pretty thorough workout.
oh shit
Soon it will be old enough to be charmingly quaint rather than just a sort of old-fashioned phrase.
Can't try hard in a game that takes no skill.
Or luck. Or really anything but to randomly play cards until someone attempts to win and everyone wastes their cards stopping them.
Such a broken game.
I had one.
It was only worn with a full suit. Mostly to temple. But sometimes to a family outing or something where a suit was required.
And now it is never to be worn.
you have a problem with that?!
Tired, I just got done with the semester and am currently trying to sort out everything for next semester.
I'm glad you are ok, I hope things can become great for you soon.
Here's a thing though. Like, where is this particular thing about Fedoras discussed? It seems like an internet meme present in a certain group. Nerds. Would like a guy who only surfs ESPN and CNN know about "m'lady"? I think folks think real hats are just too old fashioned and thats why they don't get worn. Not cause they all know about hat tipping neckbeards.
that is the needle i'm trying to thread here
fits perfectly with your avatar
No one actually cares that you're wearing a fedora unless they spend all their time on reddit, tumblr, or 4chan.
The average person has no idea what hat to associate with the term "m'lady" or wtf a "gamergate" is.
Nerds are the only ones who really care about nerd things.