[Chorus:]
That, that dude looks like a lady
That, that dude looks like a lady
That, that dude looks like a lady
That, that dude looks like a lady
Cruise into a bar on the shore
Her picture graced the grime on the door
She's a long lost love at first bite
Baby maybe you're wrong but you know it's all right
That's right
That, that
That, that
Backstage we're havin' the time
Of our lives until somebody say
Forgive me if I seem out of line
Then she whipped out her gun and tried to blow me away!
[Chorus]
Never judge a book by it's cover
Or who you gonna love by your lover
Sayin' love put me wise to her love in disguise
She had the body of a Venus, Lord imagine my surprise.
[Chorus]
So baby let me follow you down (let me take a peek dear)
Baby let me follow you down (do me, do me, do me all night)
Baby let me follow you down (turn the other cheek dear)
Baby let me follow you down (do me, do me, do me, do me)
Ooh, what a funky lady
Ooh, she like it, like it, like it, like that.
Ooh, he was a lady!
[Chorus 2x]
Dude, dude, dude, dude looks like a lady
Dude, dude, dude, dude looks like a lady
Dude, dude, dude, dude looks like a lady
Dude, dude, dude, dude looks like a lady
wear fedora: sorry if you don't like what it means, get judged, them's the breaks, suck it up.
wear microskirt and strappy red 6in heels: how dare you judge, you can't assume something just by how a person dresses, that's appalling
hmm
Did anyone in chat say either of these
Come onnnn
The first one? yes!
The second one? Not recently.
What I find interesting is that, despite everything I've said over the years about my stance on women's rights and everything my wife and daughter have said about that, people are assuming my problem is with the second sentence instead of with the first one.
And taking me to task for it.
That's pretty fucking lame.
No, you absolutely have a problem with the first part
The point being made is that the two are very different, and the comparison is faulty
hmm
maybe
I feel like judging someone for dressing like a hooker isn't any different from judging someone for dressing like Mr. Milady.
But I suppose my opinions on this are a lot more complex because at the same time I think people ought not be identified as terrible (or slutty or prudish or nerdy or sleazy) because of their dress, I also think that appropriate dress for occasion is a thing that has social value and ought to be retained. Inherent in that is judging someone for failing to hit the mark, or for disregarding convention.
hmm.
I would not think a lady is a slut because she's dressed provocatively, but I would think that a lady was an idiot for wearing a pencil skirt and heels to a 4th of July BBQ and bonfire held in the back pasture of the neighbor's farm.
I will certainly aquaman-face people lacking fanciness at the fancy dinner! But I wouldn't think every fedora at pax was a badge of shame.
The problem isn't people silently judging a woman for dressing "sluttily".
The problem is people assaulting women for dressing "sluttily".
No I think the first one is a problem too, at least in some contexts.
The contexts aren't the same at all.
If you want to justify why it's oh so terrible to make fun of someone wearing a fedora then do that. Don't try to make an analogy with some other different thing.
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Skippy has never been mean to me! I used to think it was just because I don't lol anymore
I should wear a hat now that I'm a bald for the same reason will
I haven't been able to go for anything other than a dull gray baseball cap thus far
you could almost certainly pull it off
i'm sure it would look fine on you and also gay dudes get a lot more latitude for being fashionably adventurous
and also not suspected of misogyny quite the same way as a straight
tho to be honest a lot of gay dudes have nastily dismissive sorts of attitudes towards women that doesn't usually register as "misogyny" but probably should
yeah, it's still misogyny, just a completely different kind
it is definitely still misogyny
eww vagina
eww what is it even
so gross
how can you like that
way to come full circle vapid-gays
way to come full circle
cleaning lady just came in to take the trash.
i think...i think she farted in my office.
You bougie pig
You deserve it
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
The thing that irks me the most about the race riots currently brewing is that Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are absolutely worthless glory hogs that have been using the misery of others for their personal profit. Yet somehow the media deemed them as the kings of the black people. It's so frustrating. Like these out of touch goofs are being looked at as representatives of such a large swatch of people. It be dumb.
Jackson ended up in that role because he was seen as a more charismatic leader and there was a lot of resentment to Ralph Abernathy. Honestly after the death of MLK, that charge would have been laid at the feet of anyone heading up the SLCC including Jackson. And there was a fair amount of push within the Black community and the SLCC for Jackson to be the new face of the movement.
I should wear a hat now that I'm a bald for the same reason will
I haven't been able to go for anything other than a dull gray baseball cap thus far
you could almost certainly pull it off
i'm sure it would look fine on you and also gay dudes get a lot more latitude for being fashionably adventurous
and also not suspected of misogyny quite the same way as a straight
tho to be honest a lot of gay dudes have nastily dismissive sorts of attitudes towards women that doesn't usually register as "misogyny" but probably should
yeah, it's still misogyny, just a completely different kind
it is definitely still misogyny
eww vagina
eww what is it even
so gross
how can you like that
way to come full circle vapid-gays
way to come full circle
Dan Savage is pretty notable for this kind of casual sexism, for example
Also there are persistent rumors of an ME trilogy HD rerelease/remake for the Bone/PS4 console generation so it's possible that ME1 might be getting a welcome facelift and some gameplay overhauled.
If they basically brought the first two games' shooting up to the standard of the third and maybe (cough) rewrote a few key sequences in ME3 I would gladly pay the tall dollar
oh yes absolutely
the story & characters of ME1 (and, fine, ME2) with the mechanics of ME3
fyi if they pick hard counter to teemo just leave top lane and double up in mid, your teammate will appreciate the assistance and happily share his minions with you
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the fuck, m8.
The guy who wanted me to make him an intro for his twitch channel?
I am pretty sure I made fun of will to his face at dinner for his hat one time
you are in good company
I demand to be included in your list of hurtful recollections
in my catalog for hurtful recollections, "skippydumptruck" has its own separate index
oh god
skippy has pointed out every one of my biggest insecurities in person
how can someone who looks so nice be so cruel
@Skippydumptruck can only achieve orgasm by others being in pain.
He is the meanest
Hatin on me all the time, he also dissed me IRL.
Guys we should form a support group. "Living with Skippy"
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
The thing that irks me the most about the race riots currently brewing is that Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are absolutely worthless glory hogs that have been using the misery of others for their personal profit. Yet somehow the media deemed them as the kings of the black people. It's so frustrating. Like these out of touch goofs are being looked at as representatives of such a large swatch of people. It be dumb.
when i lived in DC, my black neighbors had really ambivalent feelings about jackson and sharpton
they liked that they were able to throw their weight around and get white people to pay attention, like they were important
but every story about them painted them as being stuck up assholes who didn't really care about black people but just used them as a way to glorify themselves
like, you know, jesse jackson wouldn't even deign to talk to a waiter when ordering - his assistant did that - but then he'd go outside and hug an orphan in front of cameras
honestly i think black folks and white folks have pretty similar opinions about jesse jackson
Former presidential candidate Jesse Jackson. Keep Hope Alive.
There was a point where he was the cock of the walk.
I should wear a hat now that I'm a bald for the same reason will
I haven't been able to go for anything other than a dull gray baseball cap thus far
you could almost certainly pull it off
i'm sure it would look fine on you and also gay dudes get a lot more latitude for being fashionably adventurous
and also not suspected of misogyny quite the same way as a straight
tho to be honest a lot of gay dudes have nastily dismissive sorts of attitudes towards women that doesn't usually register as "misogyny" but probably should
yeah, it's still misogyny, just a completely different kind
it is definitely still misogyny
eww vagina
eww what is it even
so gross
how can you like that
way to come full circle vapid-gays
way to come full circle
Dan Savage is pretty notable for this kind of casual sexism, for example
Yeah. I adore him for everything he has done. Unfortunately he has published some very terrible things and will never escape them. I think he does great work for bringing queerness to straight people: I.E. its okay to butt play, its okay to want something other than feudal monogamy, its okay to be in to different things. Also he has done a great job bringing queerness to main-line LG folk.
I am pretty sure I made fun of will to his face at dinner for his hat one time
you are in good company
I demand to be included in your list of hurtful recollections
in my catalog for hurtful recollections, "skippydumptruck" has its own separate index
oh god
skippy has pointed out every one of my biggest insecurities in person
how can someone who looks so nice be so cruel
@Skippydumptruck can only achieve orgasm by others being in pain.
He is the meanest
Hatin on me all the time, he also dissed me IRL.
Guys we should form a support group. "Living with Skippy"
and then he does that ridiculous mellifluous chuckle he has, which is part santa, part child poking a wasps nest and part operatic basement dweller supervillain
FWIW watching the social justice machine absolutely rage against him was very disrespectful and disproportionate to the attitudes that he maintains.
I support the ever ceasing ouroboros because it is necessary to create better and better iterations of social justice values but the ability and propensity for incredibly young and historically ignorant queer people to froth at the mouth about concepts that they know little of is a very sad thing that I don't think should be encouraged.
Guess it is a shrinking number of lawyers. They say 43% of cases are presented by the same 1% of lawyers. Many with connections to the justices themselves.
They talked to 8 Justices with only one not commenting being Roberts. They see efficient and effective representation better than diversity when it comes to promoting the law.
I mean it is an interesting argument. In a way it makes sense. Many of these lawyers know how to present an effective case to the court to rule on. But at the same diversity means a diversity on what is being ruled on and against or for who.
Also heard it on the Kojo Nnamdi show and there were some good points there. It is worth a listen if you time.
expanded my horizons so that I now have viable decks for five classes in Hearthstone. Still can't seem to open a pack with cards for a single one of them. Hearthstone you trollin
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OnTheLastCastlelet's keep it haimish for the peripateticRegistered Userregular
i remember when skippy gave me a bunch of books. he brought them out to my car all orderly in two boxes.
cool, i think. then he takes the boxes and just upends them and dumps all the books in my trunk everywhere.
i'm like wat! why! and he goes 'i need the boxes' and laughs and then he probably kicked me and a puppy
I should wear a hat now that I'm a bald for the same reason will
I haven't been able to go for anything other than a dull gray baseball cap thus far
you could almost certainly pull it off
i'm sure it would look fine on you and also gay dudes get a lot more latitude for being fashionably adventurous
and also not suspected of misogyny quite the same way as a straight
tho to be honest a lot of gay dudes have nastily dismissive sorts of attitudes towards women that doesn't usually register as "misogyny" but probably should
yeah, it's still misogyny, just a completely different kind
it is definitely still misogyny
eww vagina
eww what is it even
so gross
how can you like that
way to come full circle vapid-gays
way to come full circle
Dan Savage is pretty notable for this kind of casual sexism, for example
Yeah. I adore him for everything he has done. Unfortunately he has published some very terrible things and will never escape them. I think he does great work for bringing queerness to straight people: I.E. its okay to butt play, its okay to want something other than feudal monogamy, its okay to be in to different things. Also he has done a great job bringing queerness to main-line LG folk.
But his attitude towards trans and bi folk is classic terrible.
yeah, used to really like his column and I appreciate the "It Gets Better" movement, because teenage me would have really benefited from it
but there's a lot of his shtick that I find genuinely unpleasant
I think the tipping point was some commentary he did on NPR which made me feel like
this guy should maybe not be the figurehead of a movement about being OK as a queer person
because clearly he doesn't think it's OK to be something other than a gay dude or a straight-but-openminded person
The thing that irks me the most about the race riots currently brewing is that Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are absolutely worthless glory hogs that have been using the misery of others for their personal profit. Yet somehow the media deemed them as the kings of the black people. It's so frustrating. Like these out of touch goofs are being looked at as representatives of such a large swatch of people. It be dumb.
when i lived in DC, my black neighbors had really ambivalent feelings about jackson and sharpton
they liked that they were able to throw their weight around and get white people to pay attention, like they were important
but every story about them painted them as being stuck up assholes who didn't really care about black people but just used them as a way to glorify themselves
like, you know, jesse jackson wouldn't even deign to talk to a waiter when ordering - his assistant did that - but then he'd go outside and hug an orphan in front of cameras
honestly i think black folks and white folks have pretty similar opinions about jesse jackson
Yeah It's just frustrating. A big event occurs and those dudes are in the spotlight. Gross. Ah well.
skippy is always perfectly nice to me this just sounds like you all need to get on our level
i dont know he definitely didn't abandon all of his responsibilities immediately after his new bab was born to watch roller derby with us so he is basically literally hitler
Also there are persistent rumors of an ME trilogy HD rerelease/remake for the Bone/PS4 console generation so it's possible that ME1 might be getting a welcome facelift and some gameplay overhauled.
If they basically brought the first two games' shooting up to the standard of the third and maybe (cough) rewrote a few key sequences in ME3 I would gladly pay the tall dollar
oh yes absolutely
the story & characters of ME1 (and, fine, ME2) with the mechanics of ME3
amazing
I mean, as long as I'm fantasizing, they could stand to tighten up ME2. The recruitment and loyalty stuff (which, to be fair, is the real heart of the game) is great but the main plot has some weird hinks.
Oh, and it would be rad if they went with their original design (which the game still has all the content for, just locked away on the disc!) where all the recruitment options were available right from the beginning, so you could, for instance, recruit Legion before Garrus or whatever. There are whole dialogue exchanges and scenes that exist in a basically complete state but can only be seen if you haxxor the game files to allow this.
I should wear a hat now that I'm a bald for the same reason will
I haven't been able to go for anything other than a dull gray baseball cap thus far
you could almost certainly pull it off
i'm sure it would look fine on you and also gay dudes get a lot more latitude for being fashionably adventurous
and also not suspected of misogyny quite the same way as a straight
tho to be honest a lot of gay dudes have nastily dismissive sorts of attitudes towards women that doesn't usually register as "misogyny" but probably should
yes it's a very unfortunate and baffling problem amongst some gays. I guess that we're 'allowed' to be mean to women or something.
i mean at the end of the day, sexual attraction tends to drive social interest, even just subconsciously. from that particular angle, women don't have much to offer gay guys. it's easy i think to just think "why are these people i am not interested in showing up and making things about them?!"
there is also the whole "hag" phenomenon where self-loathing ladies seek out gay guys for company and end up being kind of pitied and tolerated and that probably drives attitudes too.
and also spurned aggressive sexual interest seems to be a big component of straight dude misogyny.
yeah I am sort of bad at this. my best friend is a lady and I love her but uh
if I'm going to be honest i'm much better at remembering the names of men and things about them because I find them sexually interesting. even if i'm not attracted to them at all. which is something I hate admitting about myself but there you go. on the other hand I am very good friends with some ladies because I feel I can get close to them and not have to worry about falling for them. That hasn't happened to me with a straight dude in a long time, but it's still a concern.
I don't really have any gay friends except for gays I've met on the boards, and I think a big part of that is that I can't deal with someone who might want to sleep with me and I might actually want to sleep with them back, especially if I'm with a dude i'm probably going to marry. It's just a tension I've avoided like the plague most of my life, and oddly enough it's served me quite well.
but If i'm going to put on my psychologist hat, I would say some gays hate women because they grew up falling for dudes who like women, and they feel that the women (who sometimes cheat, are bad partners, and don't like having giving sex - just like men) don't deserve the dudes they spend so many years pining for.
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i miss skippy
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But his attitude towards trans and bi folk is classic terrible.
It caused some dialogue at least. Honestly, I get way more bisexual erasure from straight women now then I do gay guys. Also the straight women all seem to assume that being bi means I'm some sort of stealth gay who just wants to be seen as straight. If so, they don't appear to understand what stealth means.
FWIW watching the social justice machine absolutely rage against him was very disrespectful and disproportionate to the attitudes that he maintains.
I support the ever ceasing ouroboros because it is necessary to create better and better iterations of social justice values but the ability and propensity for incredibly young and historically ignorant queer people to froth at the mouth about concepts that they know little of is a very sad thing that I don't think should be encouraged.
i think this is a problem with progressives in general.
like, social justice is about incremental progress. that's how it happens. but of course even the most liberal of people will find their values calcifying as they age, having been informed by the fights of their youth. it's probably better IMO to cut these people a little slack
but then again if it weren't a neverending cycle of nasty infighting and backbiting it wouldn't be progressive culture.
Guess it is a shrinking number of lawyers. They say 43% of cases are presented by the same 1% of lawyers. Many with connections to the justices themselves.
They talked to 8 Justices with only one not commenting being Roberts. They see efficient and effective representation better than diversity when it comes to promoting the law.
I mean it is an interesting argument. In a way it makes sense. Many of these lawyers know how to present an effective case to the court to rule on. But at the same diversity means a diversity on what is being ruled on and against or for who.
Also heard it on the Kojo Nnamdi show and there were some good points there. It is worth a listen if you time.
I'd wonder if the same is vaguely true at most specialist or higher courts. Chambers in London especially could be bad for this, but then small jurisdictions also suffer.
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nuuuuu she is MINE
my gf
"Dude (Looks Like A Lady)"
[Chorus:]
That, that dude looks like a lady
That, that dude looks like a lady
That, that dude looks like a lady
That, that dude looks like a lady
Cruise into a bar on the shore
Her picture graced the grime on the door
She's a long lost love at first bite
Baby maybe you're wrong but you know it's all right
That's right
That, that
That, that
Backstage we're havin' the time
Of our lives until somebody say
Forgive me if I seem out of line
Then she whipped out her gun and tried to blow me away!
[Chorus]
Never judge a book by it's cover
Or who you gonna love by your lover
Sayin' love put me wise to her love in disguise
She had the body of a Venus, Lord imagine my surprise.
[Chorus]
So baby let me follow you down (let me take a peek dear)
Baby let me follow you down (do me, do me, do me all night)
Baby let me follow you down (turn the other cheek dear)
Baby let me follow you down (do me, do me, do me, do me)
Ooh, what a funky lady
Ooh, she like it, like it, like it, like that.
Ooh, he was a lady!
[Chorus 2x]
Dude, dude, dude, dude looks like a lady
Dude, dude, dude, dude looks like a lady
Dude, dude, dude, dude looks like a lady
Dude, dude, dude, dude looks like a lady
The contexts aren't the same at all.
If you want to justify why it's oh so terrible to make fun of someone wearing a fedora then do that. Don't try to make an analogy with some other different thing.
Fight me hodgeheg
I can take it
eww vagina
eww what is it even
so gross
how can you like that
way to come full circle vapid-gays
way to come full circle
You bougie pig
You deserve it
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
as a teemo
Jackson ended up in that role because he was seen as a more charismatic leader and there was a lot of resentment to Ralph Abernathy. Honestly after the death of MLK, that charge would have been laid at the feet of anyone heading up the SLCC including Jackson. And there was a fair amount of push within the Black community and the SLCC for Jackson to be the new face of the movement.
Dan Savage is pretty notable for this kind of casual sexism, for example
Uncanny Magazine!
The Mad Writers Union
oh yes absolutely
the story & characters of ME1 (and, fine, ME2) with the mechanics of ME3
amazing
The guy who wanted me to make him an intro for his twitch channel?
He's offering me a cut of his twitch earnings..
i'm getting paid, whoo.
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@Skippydumptruck can only achieve orgasm by others being in pain.
He is the meanest
Hatin on me all the time, he also dissed me IRL.
Guys we should form a support group. "Living with Skippy"
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
@Vanguard (can't remember other 40k players)
My cousin has a bunch of 40K stuff from yearrrrs ago he is passing onto me for chrisssmasss if he can track it down
I THINK it is all spacemarines which I thought are boring but HEY free 40K intro
but then my friend was all "if you do get spacemarines, you should modify them into squatties" and I was like
HELL
YES
Dwarves in all things
Former presidential candidate Jesse Jackson. Keep Hope Alive.
There was a point where he was the cock of the walk.
i am tired after touring and measuring 5 goodwill stores
all toolin' around with my little rolly device that counts feet
and then he does that ridiculous mellifluous chuckle he has, which is part santa, part child poking a wasps nest and part operatic basement dweller supervillain
I support the ever ceasing ouroboros because it is necessary to create better and better iterations of social justice values but the ability and propensity for incredibly young and historically ignorant queer people to froth at the mouth about concepts that they know little of is a very sad thing that I don't think should be encouraged.
You guys might find this interesting.
A look at the lawyers who bring cases before the Supreme Court
Guess it is a shrinking number of lawyers. They say 43% of cases are presented by the same 1% of lawyers. Many with connections to the justices themselves.
They talked to 8 Justices with only one not commenting being Roberts. They see efficient and effective representation better than diversity when it comes to promoting the law.
I mean it is an interesting argument. In a way it makes sense. Many of these lawyers know how to present an effective case to the court to rule on. But at the same diversity means a diversity on what is being ruled on and against or for who.
Also heard it on the Kojo Nnamdi show and there were some good points there. It is worth a listen if you time.
http://thekojonnamdishow.org/shows/2014-12-15/the_echo_chamber_at_the_supreme_court
then he'd laugh and run away
later promising he wouldn't do it ever again
cool, i think. then he takes the boxes and just upends them and dumps all the books in my trunk everywhere.
i'm like wat! why! and he goes 'i need the boxes' and laughs and then he probably kicked me and a puppy
yeah, used to really like his column and I appreciate the "It Gets Better" movement, because teenage me would have really benefited from it
but there's a lot of his shtick that I find genuinely unpleasant
I think the tipping point was some commentary he did on NPR which made me feel like
this guy should maybe not be the figurehead of a movement about being OK as a queer person
because clearly he doesn't think it's OK to be something other than a gay dude or a straight-but-openminded person
Uncanny Magazine!
The Mad Writers Union
Yeah It's just frustrating. A big event occurs and those dudes are in the spotlight. Gross. Ah well.
i dont know he definitely didn't abandon all of his responsibilities immediately after his new bab was born to watch roller derby with us so he is basically literally hitler
I told a non-gamer parent about this and aram health flashing and he said Skippy deserved to be mocked for being tired when his kid was born
FUCK YOU BANANA
JUST
FUCKIN
FUCK OFF BRO
FUCK
FUCK I HATE BANANAS
FUCK
I mean, as long as I'm fantasizing, they could stand to tighten up ME2. The recruitment and loyalty stuff (which, to be fair, is the real heart of the game) is great but the main plot has some weird hinks.
Oh, and it would be rad if they went with their original design (which the game still has all the content for, just locked away on the disc!) where all the recruitment options were available right from the beginning, so you could, for instance, recruit Legion before Garrus or whatever. There are whole dialogue exchanges and scenes that exist in a basically complete state but can only be seen if you haxxor the game files to allow this.
yeah I am sort of bad at this. my best friend is a lady and I love her but uh
if I'm going to be honest i'm much better at remembering the names of men and things about them because I find them sexually interesting. even if i'm not attracted to them at all. which is something I hate admitting about myself but there you go. on the other hand I am very good friends with some ladies because I feel I can get close to them and not have to worry about falling for them. That hasn't happened to me with a straight dude in a long time, but it's still a concern.
I don't really have any gay friends except for gays I've met on the boards, and I think a big part of that is that I can't deal with someone who might want to sleep with me and I might actually want to sleep with them back, especially if I'm with a dude i'm probably going to marry. It's just a tension I've avoided like the plague most of my life, and oddly enough it's served me quite well.
but If i'm going to put on my psychologist hat, I would say some gays hate women because they grew up falling for dudes who like women, and they feel that the women (who sometimes cheat, are bad partners, and don't like having giving sex - just like men) don't deserve the dudes they spend so many years pining for.
It caused some dialogue at least. Honestly, I get way more bisexual erasure from straight women now then I do gay guys. Also the straight women all seem to assume that being bi means I'm some sort of stealth gay who just wants to be seen as straight. If so, they don't appear to understand what stealth means.
i think this is a problem with progressives in general.
like, social justice is about incremental progress. that's how it happens. but of course even the most liberal of people will find their values calcifying as they age, having been informed by the fights of their youth. it's probably better IMO to cut these people a little slack
but then again if it weren't a neverending cycle of nasty infighting and backbiting it wouldn't be progressive culture.
I'd wonder if the same is vaguely true at most specialist or higher courts. Chambers in London especially could be bad for this, but then small jurisdictions also suffer.