Or Ask Mike. That's what I did. I think this is all very silly btw. Namely because as I said I ask last year because of those stamps because I was making KEMPER stamps. They said yes. What's the argument.
The pinnypals logo, as I've come to understand it, is just the international stamp logo correct? I can send it with the Kemper also, but the circle portion of the stamp should have no issues whatsoever.
Yep. That is "ours" in the community sense, since we made it.
Ask Khoo if we can license the logo for this one printing. We can give them $5 per bag to include the logo.
I'm serious lol
Possibly, but probably not. Given they are making their own bags it's likely they have already given the rights to make bags with the logo on it to the manufacturer (usually for a fixed term) and so they can't say yes to us doing it without breaching a contract and causing problems.
Or Ask Mike. That's what I did. I think this is all very silly btw. Namely because as I said I ask last year because of those stamps because I was making KEMPER stamps. They said yes. What's the argument.
Mike...tends to say yes to stuff without asking the business side, and most of the time that's fine because he is talking to fans who are doing very specific, small scale stuff. But imagine if you are the bag vendor wandering PAX and you see not one or two but a dozen people with what you presume to be "knock-offs" of your product. Bricks could well be shat.
The other side is that Kemper is a character that they own. I believe Grgemonkey got permission of some sort for the site, but that doesn't mean we can start making stuff with it. Anyone who has watched the Strip Search contract episode will be familiar with the idea that just because you can make something with the IP on it, doesn't give you license to make other stuff with the IP on it.
It may sound silly to some, but the last thing we want to do is alienate our beloved PA over something as silly(but still super cool) as a bag. If they don't have an issue with it, then full steam ahead, if they do then oh well. I do think it's best to get an official word on it just so no one gets in any trouble.
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Yeah same, no cats, and now that i think of it....the further away we get from the original design (pinny arcade logo) the less i am interested in it....that design immediately says PIN TRADER OVER HERE, COME GET SOME, and although that flap will be covered in pins anyway, i just feel it would be less recognisable the more complicated imagery we add to it. So thats why im thinking the international stamp the red circle in that image. and our names underneath. Maybe also which PAX we usually attend? add AUS, EAST, PRIME, SOUTH in it somewhere? i dunno, im just riffing ideas here its super late and i can barely keep my eyes open...ill be back tomorrow when i can type something more legible, but hopefully theres something there you can think about
I like the idea of the international logo minus the Kemper stamp honestly. Kemper is adorable but I think just a logo would look way cooler on the bags instead of a picture, if that makes any sense. I'm out if we're going with brain squirrels though.
How about this as a compromise: We get the original artist, if possible (@Manic2k?) to redo the stamp (with correct spelling), but in the same style at a higher quality that would be better for printing? Stamp should probably be redone anyway to remove "ONLINE". Hah, maybe change it to "OFFLINE"?
How about this as a compromise: We get the original artist, if possible (@Manic2k?) to redo the stamp (with correct spelling), but in the same style at a higher quality that would be better for printing? Stamp should probably be redone anyway to remove "ONLINE". Hah, maybe change it to "OFFLINE"?
Black would probably work better actually.
You realize I'm the one who created that part of the logo(took it apart from the kemper) fish and that I believe I also have the 'original' artwork
Khoo just responded and said basically, that we should use the stamp logo if anything because the kemper hits a bit too close to home to PA, since they are making bags also. He said it should be something the community made, and when I ask about making the kemper stamp that was different since PA doesn't/isn't going to sell stamps.
With that said, I guess the options we have are:
1. Make the bag with the international pin trader logo
2. Come up with a new logo
3. Don't make the bags at all
So, do we have any guesses for when the official bag might be out? Perhaps we could make an international pin trader logo pin to put on the bag. Never can have too many pins...
How about this as a compromise: We get the original artist, if possible (@Manic2k?) to redo the stamp (with correct spelling), but in the same style at a higher quality that would be better for printing? Stamp should probably be redone anyway to remove "ONLINE". Hah, maybe change it to "OFFLINE"?
Black would probably work better actually.
You realize I'm the one who created that part of the logo(took it apart from the kemper) fish and that I believe I also have the 'original' artwork
How about this as a compromise: We get the original artist, if possible (@Manic2k?) to redo the stamp (with correct spelling), but in the same style at a higher quality that would be better for printing? Stamp should probably be redone anyway to remove "ONLINE". Hah, maybe change it to "OFFLINE"?
Black would probably work better actually.
You realize I'm the one who created that part of the logo(took it apart from the kemper) fish and that I believe I also have the 'original' artwork
How about this as a compromise: We get the original artist, if possible (@Manic2k?) to redo the stamp (with correct spelling), but in the same style at a higher quality that would be better for printing? Stamp should probably be redone anyway to remove "ONLINE". Hah, maybe change it to "OFFLINE"?
Black would probably work better actually.
I'm totally down for this. Am...am I the only one who doesn't really care about the spelling? Is this something I need to take a side on to be a true member?
Though I think we should keep it as "Online" since we're an online community after all.
Spelling should be changed asbit was a mistake, not a design choice. Re: online/offline, possibly online? If so we should put the website in there somewhere. Perhaps ontop of the outer ring, overall the design is good, just needs slight tweaking, im seeing it as a way to attract new members to the site
Spelling should be changed asbit was a mistake, not a design choice. Re: online/offline, possibly online? If so we should put the website in there somewhere. Perhaps ontop of the outer ring, overall the design is good, just needs slight tweaking, im seeing it as a way to attract new members to the site
While I'm still not intending to buy one anyway, I personally wouldn't wear an advertisement. Having just the logo allows people to come up and chat to you about it, rather than putting the URL on there, which gives off more of a billboard impression. But that's just what I feel.
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I agree with Fayt. I say use it.
Until they say yay or no(hopefully soon), I say we shelve it.
They symbology of the logo can easily be explained with this pic.
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Yep. That is "ours" in the community sense, since we made it.
Possibly, but probably not. Given they are making their own bags it's likely they have already given the rights to make bags with the logo on it to the manufacturer (usually for a fixed term) and so they can't say yes to us doing it without breaching a contract and causing problems.
Mike...tends to say yes to stuff without asking the business side, and most of the time that's fine because he is talking to fans who are doing very specific, small scale stuff. But imagine if you are the bag vendor wandering PAX and you see not one or two but a dozen people with what you presume to be "knock-offs" of your product. Bricks could well be shat.
The other side is that Kemper is a character that they own. I believe Grgemonkey got permission of some sort for the site, but that doesn't mean we can start making stuff with it. Anyone who has watched the Strip Search contract episode will be familiar with the idea that just because you can make something with the IP on it, doesn't give you license to make other stuff with the IP on it.
Putting the idea on hold is fine, although having ideas of what to do in the event of a no is fine.
I'm all for the International logo going on the bags. WITH THE CORRECT SPELLING.
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I'm actually planning on putting the PAX patches onto whatever bag I end up with.
No, has to red you nub.
How about this as a compromise: We get the original artist, if possible (@Manic2k?) to redo the stamp (with correct spelling), but in the same style at a higher quality that would be better for printing? Stamp should probably be redone anyway to remove "ONLINE". Hah, maybe change it to "OFFLINE"?
Black would probably work better actually.
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You realize I'm the one who created that part of the logo(took it apart from the kemper) fish and that I believe I also have the 'original' artwork
With that said, I guess the options we have are:
1. Make the bag with the international pin trader logo
2. Come up with a new logo
3. Don't make the bags at all
I vote for #1 personally.
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The crop tool doesn't make you the original creator you're basically a tracer.
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I didn't say I was the creator. I said that I believe I have the original art. Since my degree is in Graphic design, I know what I'm talking about. :P
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I'm totally down for this. Am...am I the only one who doesn't really care about the spelling? Is this something I need to take a side on to be a true member?
Though I think we should keep it as "Online" since we're an online community after all.
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