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Traveling to Japan!

kimekime Queen of BladesRegistered User regular
My wife and I are going to Japan for a week at the end of January. We have plane tickets, but basically nothing else. We've been doing some research on our own on where would be good places to go, how to travel, and anything else that could be important. But I was wondering what advice you all had!

I will know some rudimentary Japanese, but not too much. So yeah, any thoughts or such? Thanks!

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    You're going to need to narrow this down a bit. What do you two like doing? Seeing places (and what kind of places? Natural? Cultural?)? Traveling around? Eat exotic foods? Buy crazy stuff? What kinds of things also do you not want to do or deal with?

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    darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    Also what city are you landing in, do you want to stick around in one area or do you want to check out places via the Shinkansen? If you are looking to travel a bunch via the bullet train I suggest picking up a Japan Rail Pass. There is a 7 day pass which will allow you take any JR line for free, just flash the pass and you are good, but if you are going to stay in one area dont worry too much about it.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    That was slightly vague, yes, sorry :P

    We want to do a lot of sightseeing, both natural and anything interesting in the cities. We're planning on trying to hit maybe four cities, a day or two in each, then anything interesting in between or around to fill the gaps.

    My wife would be looking for anything delicious foodwise, not necessarily exotic. She grew up in China, though, so has a slightly different palette than Americans and such. She's not picky, but good food is something she wants. I, on the other hand, pretty much don't like food at all, so that nothing really matters to me about that.

    We probably are not planning on buying anything too crazy while we are there, if only because the trip itself is already quite expensive. But we are open to any fun experiences, or whatnot, even if it's not the cheapest.

    Since will only be there for a week, we want to try to avoid traveling during the day as much as possible. We would rather travel as much as possible at night. Our understanding is that that won't really be a problem, but if there are any thoughts on that we'd appreciate it. Probably mostly via the Bullet Train?

    Obviously with only a week, we'd be missing a lot and could probably spend it all in one city. But we'd rather just hit highlights of a few different places.

    Lastly, landing and leaving again from Tokyo.

    Thanks!

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    T-boltT-bolt Registered User regular
    It's been a few years since I went, but spend as much time as possible in Kyoto. I was there 3 days I think and I felt I could have explored more.

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    Ash of YewAsh of Yew Registered User regular
    If you're still looking for places to stay and are fine with hostels, I recommend the Sakura Hotel. http://www.sakura-hotel.co.jp/

    I stayed there with some friends a few years back at the one in Jimbocho (Tokyo) and it was cheap, clean and friendly. It was perfect for checking out Tokyo.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Thanks! Still looking for places to stay, yeah. Hoping to get most of it all finalized soon :)

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    darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited November 2014
    Ash of Yew wrote: »
    If you're still looking for places to stay and are fine with hostels, I recommend the Sakura Hotel. http://www.sakura-hotel.co.jp/

    I stayed there with some friends a few years back at the one in Jimbocho (Tokyo) and it was cheap, clean and friendly. It was perfect for checking out Tokyo.

    Second on that Hostel, was at the one in Ikebukuro it was awesome.

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    cckerberoscckerberos Registered User regular
    With only a week, I don't think I'd recommend travelling to Kansai. I'd suggest spending most of your time in Tokyo and taking a few day trips out to Nikko, Yokohama, Kamakura, etc. That should easily take up your time. But if you want to head out, I'd recommend Kyoto. Osaka's great but not a particularly touristy place. Hiroshima is also amazing but too far.

    Travelling at night is generally done by bus and isn't particularly tourist-friendly in my experience. But it is very cheap.

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    SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    I do recommend the Japan Rail pass as well. It was extremely convenient.

    One detail: you need to purchase it before you arrive in Japan, so you might want to get working on that now. Locations and details: http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en001.html

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    PAX_SkeletorPAX_Skeletor Melbourne, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    There is a Sumo tournament in Tokyo from the 11th to the 25th of January. If this coincides with your dates I would highly recommend it. Tickets on sale from December 6th. Over the last few years attending the Sumo has become much more user friendly for foreign visitors. An English language website is now maintained at sumo.or.jp/en/index , and they have brochures in English explaining the rules, history and cultural background of Sumo that they give you as you are escorted to your seat. Matches go most of the day, with the highest ranked fighters fighting last (between 5PM and 6PM if I remember correctly...). A good way to do it is to do other sightseeing in the morning, spend the afternoon at the Sumo, then go out for dinner and enjoy the Tokyo nightlife.

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    SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2014
    I went there a few months ago. It's a fantastic place to visit. A week seems short, but maybe, kind of, sort of, doable.

    Tokyo is probably best thought of as a transport network between a collection of cities. Each ward has a distinct atmosphere and set of attractions, from the youthful and hip Shibuya, to the elegant and businesslike Shimbashi (where I stayed in Tokyo; the Park Hotel was very nice and right next to the train station). Each ward could be explored for a good few days and still leave plenty unseen, but with a tight time limit, you could bounce around the main ones that sound appealing pretty quickly thanks to the Yamanote train line. Also note that there's a lot of English at train stations, making getting around without knowing much Japanese very easy.

    Trains
    The first train noted should probably be the N'EX, or Narita Express. It's the easiest and quickest way to get from Narita Airport into Tokyo, and you can easily transfer from Tokyo Station to the Yamanote line (or any other). When you're leaving the airport, you can buy tickets from a little counter, and the multilingual kiosks to buy a Suica card are also there (more on this later). It's a short(ish) trip through Chiba into Tokyo, and an attendant will come through with drinks and snacks.

    There are two main train lines to remember in Tokyo itself: the Yamanote and Yurikamome. The Yamanote is a loop around Tokyo, and technically has two lines that run in opposite directions around said loop.
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    As you can see, it hits all the major wards, and any that it doesn't are easy to reach from the stations it covers. I used this all the time in Tokyo. Note that all Tokyo trains will verbally and visually tell you the current and next stop in both Japanese and English.

    Next is the Yurikamome. You might not end up using this - it only goes from Shimbashi to Odaiba and back, and is a completely automated elevated line. It's also cool, cheap, and provides great views of Tokyo Bay. If you're in the area, I do recommend having a quick ride (20m).
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    Now to actually use these trains, you can buy tickets from the machines at each station, but the easier solution is to buy a Suica card.
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    These are prepaid cards that can be refilled at kiosks (and there are a bunch of them at every station), the same as most rail cards around the world. They're pretty nifty in that they can also be used for many vending machines and convenience stores, saving you from carrying around a bunch of coins. There are many other cards, most notably Pasmo, that do exactly the same thiog and can be used at all the same places that display the Suica logo. Getting one also means you can look like a natural, as you breeze through the turnstiles with a tap of the card.

    Then there's the bullet trains. Note that most carriages are reserved, with only one or two for non-reserved passengers. If you have a valid JR Rail Pass, you can just hop on and go (using the manned turnstiles to show the attendant your pass). They're a pleasant experience, and a Japan trip wouldn't be complete without riding one at least once. Be aware that the JR Pass only covers some bullet trains (like the Hikari), but not others (such as the Nozomi). If you go to Kyoto, your best bet would be taking one, which will be about a five-six hour trip off the top of my head. Hyperdia may help for looking up which trains are available when.

    Money
    In general, you don't need a lot of money to enjoy Japan, despite the stereotypes. There's a lot to see that doesn't require any entrance fee, and simply getting the chance to see another quite different culture close-up is a great experience in itself. There is one thing to keep in mind though - not all ATMs will accept foreign cards. Your best bet is to track down the nearest 7-11 outlet just in case, as they do have international ATMs available that will accept foreign cards. The good news is that 7-11 outlets are everywhere, so this shouldn't pose too much of a problem. Just don't let yourself get too low on cash assuming the nearest ATM will work. Also, as said before, Suica cards are useful for vending machines and convenience stores, and can be topped up at any train station's kiosks.

    Places
    Tokyo - it's hard to really suggest something, because each ward is very, very different, and it's not really the kind of place (in my opinion anyway) that has many must-see landmarks (like, say, Rome or Florence). The Imperial Gardens are a nice place to unwind if the idea of strolling through some nice gardens appeals to you (and has some unusual souvenirs regarding the Imperial family for sale), and the Yasukuni Shrine is an interesting place to visit (and a pretty shrine in general). There's a park next to the Park Hotel that was nice as well. The Edo-Tokyo Museum is also quite highly rated, and deservedly so. Your best bet is browsing through the excellent Japan-Guide website, which is a treasure trove of fantastic information. If you're interested in the animated side of things, then while Akihabara is probably worth a visit, it's gaudy as shit compared to the (superior, in my opinion) Nakano Broadway shopping centre.

    Kyoto - I can't recommend Kyoto enough. I'm a bit of a history nerd, so the old districts of Higashiyama and Gion interested me a lot, as they showcase Edo-era architecture and urban design. Among the many temples there, Kiyomizu-dera is one of the best in my opinion, though very touristy. Kyoto also serves as a very useful base for wider exploration, though, as it's got direct train lines to Nara and Arashiyama.

    Nara - One of my favourite places in Japan. Because deer. Lots and lots of wild deer. Nara itself is a pleasant small town, but a short walk up the hill reveals a number of parks with progressively more deer (and progressively more aggressive deer). By the time you reach the main park, there's hundreds of deer milling about, lots of tourists (mainly Japanese at the time I visited), and lots of cracker sellers. You can buy crackers to feed the deer from various little stalls for 150 yen a pop. Be careful when trying to feed them though, as they can and will chase you down, sometimes in packs, if they suspect you have crackers to give. The sound of the place is often punctuated by shrieks and cries from overwhelmed small children. Even I came out with a few bruises, and got laughed at by a family on a bench after I got chased by a ravenous group. Some nice old architecture there, too. Overall a really lovely experience if you like animals at all.

    Arashiyama - Another city reachable by train from Kyoto. It can be divided into two sides, split in half by the rail line. The top half is semi-rural suburb that leads to some lovely Heian-era architecture, a trio of temples, and forested pathways. A lovely little quiet escape, without many tourists at all. Not much to actually do there beyond walk around and enjoy the peace and quiet, though. The southern side is where the tourists go, but I never really did understand why. There's a few souvenir shops and cafes, a large notable bridge, and some nice scenery assuming the weather holds out.

    Hiroshima - I couldn't help but feel the city was somewhat maudlin, not just for the obvious reason, but more for the atmosphere and architecture (but this is terribly subjective). Miyajima Island is a short ferry ride from the port there, and was a really fun little diversion. The Okonomiyaki in Hiroshima is also fucking amazing. But, with only a week to kill, it's probably not really viable to go that far south.

    Sapporo is usually recommended for winter trips, but there's no way it could really fit into a week-long itinerary.

    With a week to kill, I'd suggest hanging around Tokyo (maybe with a day trip to Hakone, Yokohama, Nagoya, or Nikko according to taste if you get bored), then spending two days in Kyoto (with a day trip to Nara), before flying out.

    Oh, and I'd suggest either renting a phone while there, using an international travelSIM with data (what I did), or using offline maps on your phone. GPS proved to be a godsend while I was in Japan, making it one hell of a lot easier to work out where I wanted to go. Buying a local SIM for your existing phone isn't all that easy.

    If you're on Android, this app is extremely useful for looking up trains. Just select where you are and where you want to get off, and you can get a full schedule.

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited November 2014
    wrong thread lol

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    Baron DirigibleBaron Dirigible Registered User regular
    Japan is amazing, but yeah, one week doesn't sound like enough time to me. It's doable, but you'll really need to narrow down where you want to go and what you want to see. I don't think there's any value seeing four cities in one week when you could get just as much variety from travelling around Tokyo.

    @Suriko mentioned Hyperdia -- I'm here to hit you over the head with it. You can tell it where you are and where you want to get to, at any time, with a bunch of restrictions on what lines / passes you're able to take, and it'll show you as many routes as you'd ever want. (Public transport in Japan is seriously amazing and the one thing I miss more than anything.) We couldn't have done Japan without it.

    I'm not entirely certain the JR pass will be worthwhile for you. It only becomes really valuable if you're travelling a lot on JR lines and the Shinkansen. You can easily travel around Tokyo without ever touching a JR line, but if you're going around Kyoto etc a JR pass will pay itself off in no time. Make an itinerary, check routes on Hyperdia, find out if it's actually worthwhile before you buy one.

    Also -- I don't know how useful this will be for the type of travel you have planned, but I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Takuhaibin. It's a baggage delivery service that will take your luggage and deliver it to your destination at whatever time you nominate. We used it extensively during our three-week stay and it never once failed us (the shitty low-budget airline we flew with lost our luggage, but Japan Air, being a class act, delivered it to our hostel a day later using this service). I've since spoken to so many people who had no idea this service existed, but it does, and Japan is a better place for it.

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    baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    My wife and I are going to Japan for a week at the end of January. We have plane tickets, but basically nothing else. We've been doing some research on our own on where would be good places to go, how to travel, and anything else that could be important. But I was wondering what advice you all had!

    I will know some rudimentary Japanese, but not too much. So yeah, any thoughts or such? Thanks!

    Bring light tops but a really warm jacket, because you'll be experiencing two temperatures: Freezing outdoors and near-furnace conditions in any business. Layering means a LOT of layers to take off and put back on.

    Second the above recommendation for a Suica and N'EX. Taking the bus into Tokyo from Narita is a really terrible way to spend two hours, the train is much better. You may well be able to get a combination Suica and N'EX ticket at the same time, and actually the Suica they sell to tourists at Narita are way prettier than the Suica you get from most stations.

    Buy Imagawayaki from a street vendor, they're like pancakes full of custard and pretty much you get them in winter and no other time.

    I like the Shiba Park Hotel, it's close to the Park Hotel mentioned above. With the yen being in the dumpster right now, why not go a little more upscale than a hostel?

    If you're planning to travel at night so you can sleep on trains and not do hotels, remember that Japan is very small and the shinkansen from Tokyo to the Osaka area only takes a few hours.

    Also remember that flying from the US to Japan means that you "lose" a day. If you've only got a week, make sure that you actually have a full week.

    Credit cards are much more accepted in Japan than they have been in the past but try to carry cash and pay for anything under about Y5000 with cash. ATMs, as mentioned, can be tricky, but post offices have ATMs that have English mode and take foreign cards.

    Oh, ATMs stop working at about 7 PM. So there's that. Trains stop running at midnight and taxi rates double, which can be another fun gotcha.

    If you're on T-Mobile and have a reasonably recent smart phone you will get free data roaming in Japan. I don't think any other carrier does this.

    Free public wi-fi outside of your hotel will be like finding a unicorn. It just doesn't exist.

    If you are non-asian and at least try to use some Japanese, you'll get a very positive reaction. You also get to use the blank stare of utter incomprehension; it is an incredibly powerful thing and I occasionally make shameless use of it even though I'm reasonably fluent and go to Japan every year or two so I really shouldn't be falling back on the clueless foreigner act.

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    cckerberoscckerberos Registered User regular
    Second the above recommendation for a Suica and N'EX. Taking the bus into Tokyo from Narita is a really terrible way to spend two hours, the train is much better. You may well be able to get a combination Suica and N'EX ticket at the same time, and actually the Suica they sell to tourists at Narita are way prettier than the Suica you get from most stations.
    Agreed that rail is the way to go from the airport. Which line you should take depends on where in the city you're heading. I usually stay in NE Tokyo, so take the Skyliner from Nippori (which is also a littler cheaper than the N'EX).
    Free public wi-fi outside of your hotel will be like finding a unicorn. It just doesn't exist.
    The exception being Starbucks, which offers free wifi if you sign up for a free account ahead of time. Generally true, though.

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    cckerberoscckerberos Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    Suriko wrote: »
    Arashiyama - Another city reachable by train from Kyoto. It can be divided into two sides, split in half by the rail line. The top half is semi-rural suburb that leads to some lovely Heian-era architecture, a trio of temples, and forested pathways. A lovely little quiet escape, without many tourists at all. Not much to actually do there beyond walk around and enjoy the peace and quiet, though. The southern side is where the tourists go, but I never really did understand why. There's a few souvenir shops and cafes, a large notable bridge, and some nice scenery assuming the weather holds out.
    Arashiyama (a neighborhood of Kyoto rather than a different city) is lovely and something I often recommend. I'm especially a fan of nama yatsuhashi, the local specialty snack. I suspect that it would lose a lot of its beauty in winter unless it snowed, though (Kyoto in January is usually bitterly cold).
    Buying a local SIM for your existing phone isn't all that easy.
    I believe it's actually illegal to sell a SIM card or prepaid phone to someone without a gaijin card. It's a real annoyance as that would absolutely be the cheapest way to go.

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    baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    cckerberos wrote: »
    I believe it's actually illegal to sell a SIM card or prepaid phone to someone without a gaijin card. It's a real annoyance as that would absolutely be the cheapest way to go.

    Softbank will sell you a prepaid phone without a gaijin card but they can get surly and I don't think I'd spend four hours of a week's vacation finding a store that would do it, especially with the language barrier.

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    MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    They rent phones at the airports too. With the yen rate as low as it is now, you're not paying that much if you're using dollars.

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    cckerberoscckerberos Registered User regular
    cckerberos wrote: »
    I believe it's actually illegal to sell a SIM card or prepaid phone to someone without a gaijin card. It's a real annoyance as that would absolutely be the cheapest way to go.

    Softbank will sell you a prepaid phone without a gaijin card but they can get surly and I don't think I'd spend four hours of a week's vacation finding a store that would do it, especially with the language barrier.

    Are you sure? I picked up a Softbank prepaid for a friend a few years ago and my gaijin card was needed for the form.

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    Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    Woolie of Super Best Friends just recently did a Japan trip and did a youtube vlog of his adventures. Some geeky stuff, some food stuff, and some sight seeing stuff. Could be worth checking out if you want to plan different days in towns/districts for stuff to do.

    I'll link episode 1 and if you want to check it out for ideas then it should flow into the others.
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    If you do nothing else from his series. Please report to us about the quality of Blackout God :p

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    cckerberoscckerberos Registered User regular
    I've been thinking about this a little more, this time with a focus on the "January" part. I'll be honest: winters in Japan aren't great. My strongest memory of Japanese winters is how much Japanese people complain about how cold it is (most apartments, classrooms, and offices lack central heating). Fortunately, that won't apply much to you and your wife as you'll be tourists. But I decided to try and think up some good "winter" Japanese things.

    First thing, winter food (spoilered for length/images):
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    Oden is something you'll see people selling on the street, in restaurants, or in convenience stores. There's a whole variety of items included with the only commonality that its all boiled in a flavored broth. It's really great at making you feel warm.

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    This is buri, which I've never seen at a sushi place in the US. It's the same fish as hamachi but is much larger (so older).

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    Ichigo daifuku is probably my favorite Japanese dessert. Should be available all year round, but is usually only available in the winter for whatever reason. Has anko (sweet bean paste) in it but is good anyway.

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    Nabe is the Japanese take on the Asian hot pot. A lot of restaurants offer a variety in the winter.

    Second, places (again, spoilered):
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    Shirakawa-go (top image) is a World Heritage site in Gifu. It's between Kansai and Tokyo. A little out of the way but worth considering. A common way of doing this (and what I did) is to head out to Hida-Takayama (bottom image) which has some nice traditional architecture, spend the night there, go to Shirakawa-go the following day, then head to Osaka/Kyoto afterwards.

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    This isn't a specific place, but I don't think any trip to Japan would be complete without a trip to an onsen (hot spring). And if you're going to Japan in winter you should try to visit an onsen with a roten-buro (a bath that's open to the elements).

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    Robot Restaraunt/dinner show, sorry it won't embed.



    http://videos.sproutvideo.com/embed/e89bd8bc101de9c560/e0b421c4efd11b2b?type=sd

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    baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    cckerberos wrote: »
    cckerberos wrote: »
    I believe it's actually illegal to sell a SIM card or prepaid phone to someone without a gaijin card. It's a real annoyance as that would absolutely be the cheapest way to go.

    Softbank will sell you a prepaid phone without a gaijin card but they can get surly and I don't think I'd spend four hours of a week's vacation finding a store that would do it, especially with the language barrier.

    Are you sure? I picked up a Softbank prepaid for a friend a few years ago and my gaijin card was needed for the form.

    Yup, I managed to talk a Softbank store into selling me a prepaid phone a couple of years back myself with no gaijin card. I didn't even have a real visa, just the 90 day temporary visitor stamp.

    I suspect they may have done it just to get the foreigner out of the store, but the end result was that i had a phone.

    It took me several stores before I found one that actually carried the prepaids, though, and that's why I wouldn't recommend it to anyone visiting for a week. I was there for two months and wanted a local number, dangit. :)

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    Baron DirigibleBaron Dirigible Registered User regular
    I just bought my iPhone with me and rented a SIM from a SoftBank at the airport. Paid through the nose for data usage, though. I did a bad thing and didn't opt to get the plan with data (because wifi is ~~everywhere~~) only to discover that, actually, yeah, phone data is actually kind of crucial.

    (Fortunately, because I was on an iPhone plan, it included a capped amount of data per diem -- so I wasn't paying the exorbitant per byte fees. All up I was out almost ¥40000 for three weeks' usage. This was the better-case scenario.)

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    If you want to see tranquil, traditional stuff, at the western tip of Japan (past Osaka) is this tiny, sleepy town of Kinosaki, with three major features: Onsen (bathhouses) Ryokan (traditional hotels) and crab dishes as far as the eye can see. It is absolutely worth it to spend a day-and-a-half to two days there. And being Winter at the moment only makes the experience better.

    You pay one fee that gets you a lanyard to enter any bathhouse you want as well as a stamp booklet. This is done so that the town as a whole can thrive without competition. You go, put your things away, get naked and chill in natural mineral water. This is not like Korean jimjibangs where water is pumped out and heated. These are real hot springs flowing out of the mountains. When you are done with that, you can spend a night in an inn and sleep on traditional tatami mats and bedding. It was one of the best nights sleep I ever had. You can take a gondola-thingy to the top of the mountains where you can see a temple overlooking the Sea of Japan East Sea. And not only was the food amazing, they brew beers you can only get there. The odd sounding "Crab Beer" is one of their signatures, and it tastes far more delicious than it sounds.

    Japan's beers rock so much harder than Korea's.

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    cckerberoscckerberos Registered User regular
    I think Softbank only has one plan for iPhone SIM rentals. I used it a couple of years ago when I was visiting the country and the only smartphone I had available was my old Softbank-locked iPhone.

    But yeah, they're pretty harsh on data usage. Even though they cap it at like ¥1500 a day, it takes less than a megabyte of usage to hit the cap. So if you're going to use the phone for data at all, you're going to hit the cap.

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    SiskaSiska Shorty Registered User regular
    About trains, sometimes they have a women only train cart, so I guess look out for signs so you don't accidentally get on one.

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    hsuhsu Registered User regular
    It looks like you can get cheap data-only sim cards from b-mobile: http://www.bmobile.ne.jp/english/
    If you use WeChat (or WhatsApp), turning on alerts, you don't need voice or sms.

    If you need to call a local number, just use your hotel phone. If you need to call an 800 number in the USA, use Skype to call for free from your hotel room. I did the latter in China, when I had to call my bank to unblock my credit card.

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    AkilaeAkilae Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    hsu wrote: »
    It looks like you can get cheap data-only sim cards from b-mobile: http://www.bmobile.ne.jp/english/
    If you use WeChat (or WhatsApp), turning on alerts, you don't need voice or sms.

    If you need to call a local number, just use your hotel phone. If you need to call an 800 number in the USA, use Skype to call for free from your hotel room. I did the latter in China, when I had to call my bank to unblock my credit card.

    I was about to jump in and shout this from the rooftops. Reading through the thread it was painful seeing how people didn't know how to get online. There's no reason at all to get a call plan. Who are you going to call that you can't using a hotel phone? Data only is the way to go.

    Any time I've been to Japan these few years, I've always swung by the Sony booth in the airport to pick up a So-Net data only SIM card. Works great, decent rates, and if you're a frequent traveler, you even get to recharge and re-use the SIM on your next visit to Japan before it expires. If you are an astute shopper, you can even get data only SIMs with unlimited data... just severely throttled after a fixed daily usage.

    Just make sure your cell is unlocked before you fly.

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    Baron DirigibleBaron Dirigible Registered User regular
    Akilae wrote: »
    There's no reason at all to get a call plan. Who are you going to call that you can't using a hotel phone?
    well

    one time we had to call the hotel because we were running late

    there were other times when we were expecting calls from locals and were nowhere near our hotel phone

    in short, yeah, there are going to be times when a hotel phone won't cut it

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    hsuhsu Registered User regular
    Baron Dirigible, that's what WeChat/WhatsApp/Line is for (Line seems to be Japan's version of the mobile social app).

    If you need to contact or get contacted by friends or family, just use WeChat/WhatsApp/Line's voice/text messaging feature. I'm sure your friends and family already have one of those apps installed on their phone.

    As for calling your hotel, I'm sure you could've found another way. Like using an airport phone or asking to use a restaurant phone. Heck the Line app even lets you call land lines for like 3¢/min, if you buy Line credits.

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    Baron DirigibleBaron Dirigible Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    If you're travelling and you're always within easy and convenient distance of a restaurant or airport, you're doing it wrong.

    Also, being able to leave our number at a popular restaurant and getting a call when a table cleared up was pretty neat. Maybe they could have messaged us on an app. Maybe not.

    If the Line app works as advertised, then yeah, that sounds alright. But I think it's very naive to say "you'll never need a phone because you'll have a phone in your hotel!", or that everyone you need to contact or have contact you will be using an app. So much easier and more convenient to just give a phone number and know it works.

    [edit: God, look at me. I get to 30 and turn it an old fogey

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    AkilaeAkilae Registered User regular
    Let's just say we have difference travel styles. When I travel I actively cut myself off from the phone. Even my data SIM in Japan I only use so I can look things up and let my loved ones know I'm safe and sound. If there are ever situations where phones have been needed, I use either the hotel phone, turn on my roaming plan for true emergencies, or as have happened a bit more often, interact with the locals and sometimes go on an adventure.

    Anyway, this is not the time and place to go into this in more detail. For the OP's purposes, it is sufficient to know that in Japan foreign travelers cannot legally rent voice plans, however data only options are widely available.

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    MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    @kime (you nooblar)

    I would highly, HIGHLY recommend checking out Japan's various couch surfing groups.
    You don't have to surf with anyone there necessarily but can post there similar travel questions.

    Just about everyone responding there lives in the city's forum you post on, and generally someone's willing to help show you around town for a day or so.


    I've used CSing extensively since I first found it years ago and it's been an amazing life-changing experience. Seriously.
    For example in South Africa, I forgot to pick up my brother from the airport (he landed a day later) and I didn't realize that the airport completely closes after 8 PM. Lights out. Roads closed.


    My CSing host pulled over 5 different taxis to find me one that was trustworthy and wouldn't sell my organs. The cab driver took me to the airport, went through the closed roads, and brought me back to my host's home. Found my brother sitting in the dark on a bench outside the airport. -_-'


    Anyway, yeah dude it's totally legit even asking for suggestions on what/how to do things there. Helps you avoid a TON of tourist traps and save tons of $ as well.

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    MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2014
    Akilae wrote: »
    For the OP's purposes, it is sufficient to know that in Japan foreign travelers cannot legally rent voice plans, however data only options are widely available.

    Untrue. Kiosks at the airport offer these services.

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    CaedwyrCaedwyr Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    For phone/wireless in Japan I used pupuru and it seemed to work fairly well.

    I'll repost my advice from the last visiting Japan thread
    Caedwyr wrote:
    If you are looking for quirky places that only locals have a chance of knowing about, then I'd recommend checking out Globe du Monde . (English details/reservations here)

    It is a quirky French restaurant run by a chef who trained in France in the country style food rather than the Parisan French cuisine.

    Dinner for one person, the prices are 3800 Yen per person for an appetizer, entree, and desert + coffee/tea (there's a choice of about 10 different appeitizers, 10 entrees, and about 4 desserts.)
    Lunch for one person, is 1100 Yen per person for Course A (Daily special entree + soup + coffee/tea) or 1600 Yen per person for Course B (Appeitizer, entree, desert, and coffee/tea.

    They also have a decent wine selection at reasonable prices.

    At least one of the servers speaks enough English to carry on a moderate-level conversation. The place only has three tables, and is the type of place where once someone sits down for dinner there is no pressure to finish your meal. The evening I was there, the three tables filled up quickly and basically stayed full until the end of the evening with the same groups of people. They do a pretty brisk business of take-out and seem to have a lot of regulars, so it might be a good idea to get there a bit earlier in the evening. It's a short walk from the Ichigaya Station and is great for a meal with conversation/relaxing.
    Caedwyr wrote:
    ...if you are going to Japan then you need to visit an onsen. I went to several in Yufuin in Oita Prefecture and they are the best thing ever. At the ones I visited, there was the option to use a family onsen (private pool) if it was not busy already.
    Caedwyr wrote:
    One other thing you should consider doing, especially if you are planning on taking the Shinkansen (bullet train) or any other JR lines is purchasing a JR pass. If you take a Shinkansen ride at all, you'll pretty much pay for the JR pass on the spot. They are good for 1, 2, or 3 weeks and can be used on almost all JR lines, including public transit and trains within the city. It won't work on all subways, but you can generally get around easily. Otherwise, expect to pay a fair bit for train tickets and such. In general, it is much faster to take the trains rather than driving to places. The JR pass can only be purchased by non-residents from outside of Japan, so it is something you'd want to obtain before heading over there.
    Caedwyr wrote:
    You can probably purchase one through most travel agents that deal with trips to Japan. I think I purchased mine via a travel agent that dealt with JTB, but you might be able to get it cheaper. When you first arrive at Narita airport, head downstairs to the JR counter (most signs are in English or pictograms and there are staff/info desks) to get your pass activated if you are planning on using it right away.

    Another hint for using public transit/trains is to get a copy of the subway/train line map in English and in Japanese. Most things are written in English, but invariably station names are written in kanji (Chinese characters). That way if you have to ask for directions, it is easier to translate back and forth. Weirdly enough, train station names are pretty much the only time you run across a sign without an English subtitle on it as well (Tokyo may be better about this, but in Fukuoka on Kyuushu, train stations almost never had English subtitles.)

    Also, a good phrasebook to have on hand if you don't have someone with decent Japanese is the following The Original Point and Speak Phrasebook. You don't necessarily have to order it online, and the bookstores at the Narita airport will carry a copy for about 1000 Yen or less if I remember correctly. Amazon should also carry a copy for cheaper.
    Caedwyr wrote:
    I'll second the Ghibli museum if you like the films at all. There's not much in English, but that didn't stop me from really enjoying my time there. You need to book ahead of time, as it is very busy. The walk from the local train station is pretty nice too depending on the weather. It's one of the nicer areas I visited in Tokyo for the general neighbourhood feel.

    And I'll agree about Akihabara being a disappointment. I was expecting an electronics mecha and what I ended up finding was a bunch of cheap Chinese knock-offs, sex stores, and exploitative anime paraphernalia stores that were hard to distinguish from the sex stores.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Hey everyone, thanks for all the suggestions, advise, and help :).

    Due to family illness, this actually had to get postponed for the present, but once we get another opportunity to get out to Japan, all this will be super helpful. Thanks!

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