That Simonson Thor stiff looks amazing. I'm buying volume 1 on payday.
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Regarding some questions about AoU
Thor probably knew a little something about what happened on Xandar, seeing as Asgard is a part of galactic society to some extent.
As for Nick Fury coming back, that part actually does require knowledge of event is AoS, though you can probably sum it up as SHIELD is back and has been rebuilt from the ground up.
At least, that's my interpretation with Steve saying, "Now that's what SHIELD's supposed to be."
The Nat/Bruce romance felt like a total waste of space and time. It wasn't... forced, exactly, but it didn't feel natural, either. I don't think it was necessary in any way to put Bruce where he was at the end of the movie, and it didn't add anything to my experience.
Nat being captured was also a waste of time. There was, as far as I can tell, no point to it. Ultron being a grandstanding bastard should have led to him telling the Avengers where he was, rather than having a scene of Black Widow being captured and inexplicably locked up with a radio to signal Hawkeye.
The dream sequences in Africa were tonally dissonant and pretty shit. They didn't further the plot, and most importantly they didn't demonstrate how Ultron was scary. Tony's vision at the start was critical, but everyone else didn't reveal anything about the characters that we didn't know.
Speaking of, Jesus christ that conversation between Nat and Bruce at the farmhouse reads poorly.
Thor felt really uniquely irrelevant in this movie. I'm not sure how they could have corrected that, but it really didn't feel like there was anything for him to do. If I think about it, he did quite a bit with Mjolnir and interacting with the others, but... eh. It didn't feel weighty or character building, we didn't learn anything about him in this movie.
I despised the visual design for Ultron’s face. The classic look would have translated SO WELL to screen.
I really enjoyed all the action sequences, though. They were easy to follow, set clear stakes, used all the characters well, and looked FUCKING AWESOME. The climax was exceptionally well set and executed, and really damn fun to watch.
Also, I liked the new characters. Vision, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver were actually all great. It's a fucking waste to kill Quicksilver (although his hair was awful) so I'm interested to see if and how they'll bring him back. SW was a lot better than I expected, and Vision was 100% perfect and I couldn't ask for a better character.
Ultron had a great personality, it threw me at first before I realized he was a psychopathic homicidal Tony Stark.
Also, the general structure of the movie felt exactly like a comic book arc, which was really cool. And they finally used the goddamn unibeam so FUCKING THANK YOU.
Ultimately I'm ecstatic that Whedon won't be doing any more of these, but this movie as a whole was a lot better than I had feared before watching it. What a stupid shitty fucking cut at the end of the movie, though. It doesn't make any sense for non comic book fans and it just kind of spits in the eye of fans. Fuck You, Whedon. I hate you!
Current Marvel Rankings
1. Winter Soldier
2. Iron Man 3
3. Iron Man
4. Thor
5. The Dark World
6. Captain America: The First Avenger
7. Iron Man 2
8. Age of Ultron
9. Avengers
10. Incredible Hulk
11. Guardians of the Galaxy
they very briefly teased Wanda and Vision flying in and rescuing her from the rubble and having that lingering shot of her in his arms.
Just please don't drag in the AM I A REAL MAN???? stuff
Vision stuff
Not only is that the most tiresome-ass Vision writing, I feel like it would fly directly in the face of his characterization in this film where he seems very accepting of what he is.
Just like writers took elements they liked from Avengers and brought then into the comics (Science Bros, Widow and Hawkeye's close friendship, Widow's ledger, etc.) I really hope elements of MCU Wanda, Pietro and Vision are brought into the comics because they were all great versions of the chatacters that used the best parts of their personalities/back stories.
Give me a Vision ongoing inspired by AoU Vision please.
The predicament I currently find myself in is now the movie has made me very interested in the character of Scarlet Witch
But I don't know if there are any comics I can read because I specifically want the MCU Scarlet Witch
I had a similar situation after Guardians came out because the comic versions were fairly different
Scarlet Witch has a very inconsistent (and generally poor) history in terms of how she's been written in the comics, both in terms of personality and power sets.
The version in Uncanny Avengers is the only one that's ever felt like a real character to me, but it's not the same character from the movie.
The Nat/Bruce romance felt like a total waste of space and time. It wasn't... forced, exactly, but it didn't feel natural, either. I don't think it was necessary in any way to put Bruce where he was at the end of the movie, and it didn't add anything to my experience.
Nat being captured was also a waste of time. There was, as far as I can tell, no point to it. Ultron being a grandstanding bastard should have led to him telling the Avengers where he was, rather than having a scene of Black Widow being captured and inexplicably locked up with a radio to signal Hawkeye.
The dream sequences in Africa were tonally dissonant and pretty shit. They didn't further the plot, and most importantly they didn't demonstrate how Ultron was scary. Tony's vision at the start was critical, but everyone else didn't reveal anything about the characters that we didn't know.
Speaking of, Jesus christ that conversation between Nat and Bruce at the farmhouse reads poorly.
Thor felt really uniquely irrelevant in this movie. I'm not sure how they could have corrected that, but it really didn't feel like there was anything for him to do. If I think about it, he did quite a bit with Mjolnir and interacting with the others, but... eh. It didn't feel weighty or character building, we didn't learn anything about him in this movie.
I despised the visual design for Ultron’s face. The classic look would have translated SO WELL to screen.
I really enjoyed all the action sequences, though. They were easy to follow, set clear stakes, used all the characters well, and looked FUCKING AWESOME. The climax was exceptionally well set and executed, and really damn fun to watch.
Also, I liked the new characters. Vision, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver were actually all great. It's a fucking waste to kill Quicksilver (although his hair was awful) so I'm interested to see if and how they'll bring him back. SW was a lot better than I expected, and Vision was 100% perfect and I couldn't ask for a better character.
Ultron had a great personality, it threw me at first before I realized he was a psychopathic homicidal Tony Stark.
Also, the general structure of the movie felt exactly like a comic book arc, which was really cool. And they finally used the goddamn unibeam so FUCKING THANK YOU.
Ultimately I'm ecstatic that Whedon won't be doing any more of these, but this movie as a whole was a lot better than I had feared before watching it. What a stupid shitty fucking cut at the end of the movie, though. It doesn't make any sense for non comic book fans and it just kind of spits in the eye of fans. Fuck You, Whedon. I hate you!
Current Marvel Rankings
1. Winter Soldier
2. Iron Man 3
3. Iron Man
4. Thor
5. The Dark World
6. Captain America: The First Avenger
7. Iron Man 2
8. Age of Ultron
9. Avengers
10. Incredible Hulk
11. Guardians of the Galaxy
Personally I like the Natasha/Bruce romance angle because of the inherent chemistry between the two characters, as archetypes they are very much naturally dispossessed towards an interesting romantic tryst. She's a deadly killer trying to be better, he's a monster trying not to be, so there's a shared pain, but also their histories and personalities are different enough to make them seem interesting together.
I agree that the whole fact that it's easy to misconceive (heh) Natasha being unable to have kids as her reasoning as to what makes her a monster makes that scene rather poorly done. Again, I'd blame editing here. And the whole ending of the romance where Hulk goes off by himself felt very trite and contrived, very much Whedon at his worse rather than his best.
Thor felt decent in the movie to me, yeah I'd have liked him to do more, but he got some good lines and looked cool and, as a character, he's a pretty stable and emotionally controlled kind of person, he's had his fall and he's risen up and now it's all good.
Ultron looked okay to me. Liked the overall design but yes the classic comic face would have been way better IMO. Ultron being evil Tony Stark worked quite well although his personality seemed very haphazard despite that. I did like how much of the bad guy Tony is in AoU, though. Dude keeps on fucking everything up and won't listen to anyone.
Quicksilver was a massive fucking waste, yeah. Whedon, again, at his worst. Absolutely crap death, and out of the two twins, he was more likeable anyway, though I do think that Wanda has loads of potential, it just wasn't explore much. Vision was the best, best best best forever.
Overall I think I liked it more than you but yes I definitely share your misgivings about certain parts. Plus, the pacing of the movie is not good IMO, it didn't feel like a comic book arc to me, it felt like a badly paced movie. Shouldn't have cut so much!
We already know a Scarlet Witch series is on the way in some capacity
I've never been a huge fan of Wanda but if she becomes more like badass, confident MCU Wanda and less "Oh hey I got a new writer so my powers are different and also I'm unstable and maybe crazy?" I'd be on board
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To this day, I don't know what powers 616's Scarlet Witch actually has.
Her current costume is much better since she's wearing actual clothes instead of that weird bathing suit/pantyhose looking thing, but she still has the dumb tiara which I am pretty sure I will never ever like.
Also one concern I have about movies going forward after the way Ultron leaves things
It feels like there's too much plot to get through to conceivably see the New Avengers in action
And boy I would love to see plenty of them
Cap, Scarlet Witch, War Machine, Falcon, Vision, and...is Black Widow still part? I'm assuming so?
Is such a great lineup that I almost wish we could have a whole movie dedicated to just seeing them in action instead of the Civil War and Thanos plots breathing down the MCU's neck
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I love this comic
That Simonson Thor stiff looks amazing. I'm buying volume 1 on payday.
As for Nick Fury coming back, that part actually does require knowledge of event is AoS, though you can probably sum it up as SHIELD is back and has been rebuilt from the ground up.
At least, that's my interpretation with Steve saying, "Now that's what SHIELD's supposed to be."
But man all it really does is make me want a new fully-produced console/pc game that isn't f2p.
I should probably be getting this
I love this costume. Tons of style.
Like it way more than her current one.
My Let's Play Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UC2go70QLfwGq-hW4nvUqmog
God
I am just the biggest, most sentimental crybaby
It looks trashy and it makes no sense for her midriff to be exposed. It looks like a homey costume from Saint's Row.
Like
Girls wear stuff like that (the midriff part not the armored archery stuff) in real life fairly often
Nat being captured was also a waste of time. There was, as far as I can tell, no point to it. Ultron being a grandstanding bastard should have led to him telling the Avengers where he was, rather than having a scene of Black Widow being captured and inexplicably locked up with a radio to signal Hawkeye.
The dream sequences in Africa were tonally dissonant and pretty shit. They didn't further the plot, and most importantly they didn't demonstrate how Ultron was scary. Tony's vision at the start was critical, but everyone else didn't reveal anything about the characters that we didn't know.
Speaking of, Jesus christ that conversation between Nat and Bruce at the farmhouse reads poorly.
Thor felt really uniquely irrelevant in this movie. I'm not sure how they could have corrected that, but it really didn't feel like there was anything for him to do. If I think about it, he did quite a bit with Mjolnir and interacting with the others, but... eh. It didn't feel weighty or character building, we didn't learn anything about him in this movie.
I despised the visual design for Ultron’s face. The classic look would have translated SO WELL to screen.
I really enjoyed all the action sequences, though. They were easy to follow, set clear stakes, used all the characters well, and looked FUCKING AWESOME. The climax was exceptionally well set and executed, and really damn fun to watch.
Also, I liked the new characters. Vision, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver were actually all great. It's a fucking waste to kill Quicksilver (although his hair was awful) so I'm interested to see if and how they'll bring him back. SW was a lot better than I expected, and Vision was 100% perfect and I couldn't ask for a better character.
Ultron had a great personality, it threw me at first before I realized he was a psychopathic homicidal Tony Stark.
Also, the general structure of the movie felt exactly like a comic book arc, which was really cool. And they finally used the goddamn unibeam so FUCKING THANK YOU.
Ultimately I'm ecstatic that Whedon won't be doing any more of these, but this movie as a whole was a lot better than I had feared before watching it. What a stupid shitty fucking cut at the end of the movie, though. It doesn't make any sense for non comic book fans and it just kind of spits in the eye of fans. Fuck You, Whedon. I hate you!
Current Marvel Rankings
1. Winter Soldier
2. Iron Man 3
3. Iron Man
4. Thor
5. The Dark World
6. Captain America: The First Avenger
7. Iron Man 2
8. Age of Ultron
9. Avengers
10. Incredible Hulk
11. Guardians of the Galaxy
Like I get her current look is all 60s retro like Fraction did with her storylines in Hawkeye but YA Kate looks like a proper superhero
Which granted has not been recently, since I was waiting for an update and haven't gotten back in to give it a shot since he got tweaked recently
Also just got out of AoU, enjoyed Vision way more than I was expecting
Vision is super good.
Just please don't drag in the AM I A REAL MAN???? stuff
Although I had a lot of favorite parts
My favorite probably being
(AoU spoilers)
I whispered "You son of a bitch"
And then a few seconds later Cap said the exact same thing
It was magical
It helped make the Avengers feel like a coherent group with like, in-jokes
Yeah, I guess
But I hate exposed midriffs for super heroines
Vision stuff
Having seen the first Avengers the night before I saw Avengers 2, he was so much less interesting to watch fight in that than he was in TWS/AoU
I was worried there'd be some kind of regression, but there wasn't!
I was really hoping that we'd get to see some
Give me a Vision ongoing inspired by AoU Vision please.
(AoU)
yay!"
But I don't know if there are any comics I can read because I specifically want the MCU Scarlet Witch
I had a similar situation after Guardians came out because the comic versions were fairly different
https://youtu.be/Jb5YpiMIvPU?t=2m37s Pretty much how that was described
Scarlet Witch has a very inconsistent (and generally poor) history in terms of how she's been written in the comics, both in terms of personality and power sets.
The version in Uncanny Avengers is the only one that's ever felt like a real character to me, but it's not the same character from the movie.
I'm gonna be really sad when Thanos inevitably makes his move for the Mind Gem and probably crushes Vision for it
Scarlet Witch is super fun in Marvel Heroes
But good lord is this classic look terrible
Their rendition of the movie costume is so much better
I agree that the whole fact that it's easy to misconceive (heh) Natasha being unable to have kids as her reasoning as to what makes her a monster makes that scene rather poorly done. Again, I'd blame editing here. And the whole ending of the romance where Hulk goes off by himself felt very trite and contrived, very much Whedon at his worse rather than his best.
Thor felt decent in the movie to me, yeah I'd have liked him to do more, but he got some good lines and looked cool and, as a character, he's a pretty stable and emotionally controlled kind of person, he's had his fall and he's risen up and now it's all good.
Ultron looked okay to me. Liked the overall design but yes the classic comic face would have been way better IMO. Ultron being evil Tony Stark worked quite well although his personality seemed very haphazard despite that. I did like how much of the bad guy Tony is in AoU, though. Dude keeps on fucking everything up and won't listen to anyone.
Quicksilver was a massive fucking waste, yeah. Whedon, again, at his worst. Absolutely crap death, and out of the two twins, he was more likeable anyway, though I do think that Wanda has loads of potential, it just wasn't explore much. Vision was the best, best best best forever.
Overall I think I liked it more than you but yes I definitely share your misgivings about certain parts. Plus, the pacing of the movie is not good IMO, it didn't feel like a comic book arc to me, it felt like a badly paced movie. Shouldn't have cut so much!
I've never been a huge fan of Wanda but if she becomes more like badass, confident MCU Wanda and less "Oh hey I got a new writer so my powers are different and also I'm unstable and maybe crazy?" I'd be on board
And boy I would love to see plenty of them
Cap, Scarlet Witch, War Machine, Falcon, Vision, and...is Black Widow still part? I'm assuming so?
Is such a great lineup that I almost wish we could have a whole movie dedicated to just seeing them in action instead of the Civil War and Thanos plots breathing down the MCU's neck
Yeah that costume is the sole reason I bought one in the last BOGO sale, picked up the Marvel NOW version instead :
Much better!
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it basically depends on who's writing her and what they want her to do in the story