Sisko playing baseball was nice, although thinking back people should have been into all kinds of sports (other than just a few future ones). Soccer should probably be more popular in the holodeck than Sherlock Holmes. Bashir was a pro tennis player too
Also the weekly darts games in Quark's.
There were more actual cultural things in DS9 because of the type of story they were telling.
That episode where Tuvok had made a holodeck "Lone starfleet agent against a maquis coupe" training sim, which is basically a video game, is so novel to the crew of Voyager that it's actually kind of hilarious
shouldn't your holodeck archive have literally hundreds of thousands or millions of such programs
The computer is so advanced you could just say "this video game from 400 years ago, please make it a holodeck program"
Basically I have made the Nords too powerful and Swadia too weak and this balance displeases me.
Become the Swadians, and plan your revenge againt King Ragnar
He is particularly notorious for awarding newly acquired holdings to himself, actually (as in, it's a scripted part of his personality vs the other rulers :P )
Is there any way to gain a fief without swearing loyalty? I must be queen.
also I kind of wanted to watch an entire episode of Voyager crew members trying to thwart (or help) a maquis coupe in the holodeck because it was more entertaining than their typical episode
That episode where Tuvok had made a holodeck "Lone starfleet agent against a maquis coupe" training sim, which is basically a video game, is so novel to the crew of Voyager that it's actually kind of hilarious
shouldn't your holodeck archive have literally hundreds of thousands or millions of such programs
The computer is so advanced you could just say "this video game from 400 years ago, please make it a holodeck program"
again, on DS9, people used holodecks for what you assumed they'd use them for
sex
power fantasies
games
meanwhile on Voyager they used it to make an Irish village LARP
That episode where Tuvok had made a holodeck "Lone starfleet agent against a maquis coupe" training sim, which is basically a video game, is so novel to the crew of Voyager that it's actually kind of hilarious
shouldn't your holodeck archive have literally hundreds of thousands or millions of such programs
The computer is so advanced you could just say "this video game from 400 years ago, please make it a holodeck program"
again, on DS9, people used holodecks for what you assumed they'd use them for
sex
power fantasies
games
meanwhile on Voyager they used it to make an Irish village LARP
apparently Worf is a rapist and murderer in his holodeck games and it was actually used against him in court to prove he was overly violent
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Basically I have made the Nords too powerful and Swadia too weak and this balance displeases me.
Become the Swadians, and plan your revenge againt King Ragnar
He is particularly notorious for awarding newly acquired holdings to himself, actually (as in, it's a scripted part of his personality vs the other rulers :P )
Is there any way to gain a fief without swearing loyalty? I must be queen.
Oh 100% - get yourself free of that mercenary contract and you can attack basically anyone you want, really.
One warning, however - probably everyone will initially be super-unhappy with you. You might be fighting a war against more than just the people you attacked >_>
Oh yeah I remember a star wars technical manual and the output of a star destroyer firing its guns would be like the entire earth's nuclear arsenal going off several times a second for hours
so basically the death star is completely pointless
so the author just had no idea how much energy he was talking about because it completely doesn't mesh with the movies. A star destroyer blaster bolt hits a Republic cruiser's shield, the resulting radiation kills every TIE pilot in the area
override367 on
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Basically I have made the Nords too powerful and Swadia too weak and this balance displeases me.
Become the Swadians, and plan your revenge againt King Ragnar
He is particularly notorious for awarding newly acquired holdings to himself, actually (as in, it's a scripted part of his personality vs the other rulers :P )
Is there any way to gain a fief without swearing loyalty? I must be queen.
Oh 100% - get yourself free of that mercenary contract and you can attack basically anyone you want, really.
One warning, however - probably everyone will initially be super-unhappy with you. You might be fighting a war against more than just the people you attacked >_>
It's not giving me the option. Do I need more troops maybe?
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a weird side effect of some of the realities of how Star Trek is a TV show means that the Federation is weirdly culturally barren
like, nobody in the Federation creates anything. There is no contemporary art, fashion, music, literature, no pop culture to speak of. And people's fascination with the past generally stops just short of the early 20th century, that's pretty much where the interest in recreating things with holodecks and the like ends. Nobody listens to like, music from 1985 or 2024 or even 1963. They listen to Brahms or Mozart or something wholly alien like Klingon opera.
There are practical, real-world reasons for this. Coming up with this kind of thing for a TV show can be difficult and come across as hokey and awful, and can date your show really badly. Having the crew on shore leave go to a concert of "that popular new musician from Alpha Centauri" either involves doing it off-camera or creating real music and trying to like... intuit what 24th century music is? God help you if you do something asinine like get a guest appearance from Skrillex or something, which is exactly the kind of shit Voyager would've done.
And nobody in the Federation listens to anything that would require expensive licensing, so you can forget Riker rockin' out to The Who. All of that stuff is true to other extents with fashion, visual art, literature, etc. It's just too much to create and present visually for a TV medium. So they just don't do it.
But the end result, even though I understand the practical reasons for that, is the Federation seems really fucked up and culturally stagnant and sterile, longing for a cultured past when people actually had the impetus to create art and explore the human condition. It makes it seem like the humanities died in the pursuit of the sciences, and now these "enlightened people" have to look backwards to figure out their own spirit.
that's something I liked about the new movies is that they had scenes set in bars and clubs and stuff
they didn't go to any huge effort to have like, ostentatiously "23rd century"-sounding music playing but that is fine with me because it would almost certainly be ridiculous and the original Star Trek show was very much the adventures of two-fisted 20th century Americans in space anyway
(and I have always been okay with this because it forms a more visceral connection and because there's nothing that says it has to be taken as anything more literal than the fact that aliens all speak English among themselves or whatever. I am able to accept "Money for Nothing" on the future jukebox as, like, symbolic of what someone might be listening to in a crappy townie bar in the spacefuture rather than as some kind of literal truth.)
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a weird side effect of some of the realities of how Star Trek is a TV show means that the Federation is weirdly culturally barren
like, nobody in the Federation creates anything. There is no contemporary art, fashion, music, literature, no pop culture to speak of. And people's fascination with the past generally stops just short of the early 20th century, that's pretty much where the interest in recreating things with holodecks and the like ends. Nobody listens to like, music from 1985 or 2024 or even 1963. They listen to Brahms or Mozart or something wholly alien like Klingon opera.
There are practical, real-world reasons for this. Coming up with this kind of thing for a TV show can be difficult and come across as hokey and awful, and can date your show really badly. Having the crew on shore leave go to a concert of "that popular new musician from Alpha Centauri" either involves doing it off-camera or creating real music and trying to like... intuit what 24th century music is? God help you if you do something asinine like get a guest appearance from Skrillex or something, which is exactly the kind of shit Voyager would've done.
And nobody in the Federation listens to anything that would require expensive licensing, so you can forget Riker rockin' out to The Who. All of that stuff is true to other extents with fashion, visual art, literature, etc. It's just too much to create and present visually for a TV medium. So they just don't do it.
But the end result, even though I understand the practical reasons for that, is the Federation seems really fucked up and culturally stagnant and sterile, longing for a cultured past when people actually had the impetus to create art and explore the human condition. It makes it seem like the humanities died in the pursuit of the sciences, and now these "enlightened people" have to look backwards to figure out their own spirit.
I really wish I had smoked something before reading this because my inner monologue went "Whoa.....dude....." when I finished.
Because this explains exactly why I always felt something was odd about Star Trek but I couldn't put my finger on it.
It also doesn't help that I pretty much walked away from the franchise when TNG ended, so I only really watched that stuff as a kid.
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I have no problem believing a bar would more or less resemble a bar today 300 years from now
Assuming it's a future where trans-humanism is banned otherwise everyone would be a perfect machine or genetic superman who doesn't need to drink because chemicals can be released at will to achieved desired states of consciousness
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Oh yeah I remember a star wars technical manual and the output of a star destroyer firing its guns would be like the entire earth's nuclear arsenal going off several times a second for hours
so basically the death star is completely pointless
so the author just had no idea how much energy he was talking about because it completely doesn't mesh with the movies. A star destroyer blaster bolt hits a Republic cruiser's shield, the resulting radiation kills every TIE pilot in the area
Yeah
I always say "Star Wars ships probably win because the technical writers were idiots who did not understand numbers"
Mass Effects CODEX doesn't line up with the cutscenes either
probably because the cutscene guys couldn't figure out how to make an engaging fight between ships 500 miles apart with no two ships on the same side being within a few miles of any other ship
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Basically I have made the Nords too powerful and Swadia too weak and this balance displeases me.
Become the Swadians, and plan your revenge againt King Ragnar
He is particularly notorious for awarding newly acquired holdings to himself, actually (as in, it's a scripted part of his personality vs the other rulers :P )
Is there any way to gain a fief without swearing loyalty? I must be queen.
Oh 100% - get yourself free of that mercenary contract and you can attack basically anyone you want, really.
One warning, however - probably everyone will initially be super-unhappy with you. You might be fighting a war against more than just the people you attacked >_>
It's not giving me the option. Do I need more troops maybe?
On further investigation, I'm thinking specifically of Mount and Blade Warband. So if it's original Mount and Blade, it may not be possible If it's Warband, you just need to have a negative relationship with the faction first, easily accomplished through attacking caravans, villagers, or raiding a village. Get it low enough, and you should be able to besiege to your heart's content!
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i got the mad max fury road sound track which turned out to be a massive mistake since now i want to go to the cinema and see it again
i haven't liked a movie this much since dredd
I've already called Fury Road as the best movie of 2015 because there's no fucking way Star Wars is going to be that good, and what else is there? Jurassic World? Please.
Dredd took me by surprise. I've never read the comics and Stallone's Dredd was.....dreadful..... >.> but the new Dredd was fucking awesome.
I have one quibble, though. When he's on the intercom and he's all, "Ma-Ma's not the law. I'm the law." That should have been *click* done. Soliliquy over. Because "Judgment time" is kinda lame.
a weird side effect of some of the realities of how Star Trek is a TV show means that the Federation is weirdly culturally barren
like, nobody in the Federation creates anything. There is no contemporary art, fashion, music, literature, no pop culture to speak of. And people's fascination with the past generally stops just short of the early 20th century, that's pretty much where the interest in recreating things with holodecks and the like ends. Nobody listens to like, music from 1985 or 2024 or even 1963. They listen to Brahms or Mozart or something wholly alien like Klingon opera.
There are practical, real-world reasons for this. Coming up with this kind of thing for a TV show can be difficult and come across as hokey and awful, and can date your show really badly. Having the crew on shore leave go to a concert of "that popular new musician from Alpha Centauri" either involves doing it off-camera or creating real music and trying to like... intuit what 24th century music is? God help you if you do something asinine like get a guest appearance from Skrillex or something, which is exactly the kind of shit Voyager would've done.
And nobody in the Federation listens to anything that would require expensive licensing, so you can forget Riker rockin' out to The Who. All of that stuff is true to other extents with fashion, visual art, literature, etc. It's just too much to create and present visually for a TV medium. So they just don't do it.
But the end result, even though I understand the practical reasons for that, is the Federation seems really fucked up and culturally stagnant and sterile, longing for a cultured past when people actually had the impetus to create art and explore the human condition. It makes it seem like the humanities died in the pursuit of the sciences, and now these "enlightened people" have to look backwards to figure out their own spirit.
I really wish I had smoked something before reading this because my inner monologue went "Whoa.....dude....." when I finished.
Because this explains exactly why I always felt something was odd about Star Trek but I couldn't put my finger on it.
It also doesn't help that I pretty much walked away from the franchise when TNG ended, so I only really watched that stuff as a kid.
I didn't really put my finger on it until a couple years back when I was rewatching some DS9 with a friend of mine and I really kind of noticed it in the character of Jake Sisko
he's a civilian character who always wears these bland unitards and he just doesn't have any interests or anything, and then he wants to become a writer and a journalist and it kind of shines a light on the fact that I've never once really thought about media and pop culture in the Federation because it doesn't exist
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Basically I have made the Nords too powerful and Swadia too weak and this balance displeases me.
Become the Swadians, and plan your revenge againt King Ragnar
He is particularly notorious for awarding newly acquired holdings to himself, actually (as in, it's a scripted part of his personality vs the other rulers :P )
Is there any way to gain a fief without swearing loyalty? I must be queen.
Oh 100% - get yourself free of that mercenary contract and you can attack basically anyone you want, really.
One warning, however - probably everyone will initially be super-unhappy with you. You might be fighting a war against more than just the people you attacked >_>
It's not giving me the option. Do I need more troops maybe?
On further investigation, I'm thinking specifically of Mount and Blade Warband. So if it's original Mount and Blade, it may not be possible If it's Warband, you just need to have a negative relationship with the faction first, easily accomplished through attacking caravans, villagers, or raiding a village. Get it low enough, and you should be able to besiege to your heart's content!
Bogart Mojo_Jojo tell us about Consulting Detective!
Five of us, first case, and the first time any of us had played it.
We cottoned on to Ragland as the killer early on, but were also highly suspicious of von Schulenberg, understandably. We kept hunting around for a motive, or evidence he was trying to flog the secret plans to someone, but drew a blank, and ended up thinking he killed the magnate to clear his debts after we checked with Ragland's tailor. Which was correct, sort of. We missed the earring, and had no clue the Russian embassy was involved. The note, and the initials on it, totally passed us by. We found out about Allen's affair, discovered why Camp was at the French embassy, and deduced the murderer, but ended up at 35/100.
No extra points were gained by the use of my amazing German accent in certain scenes.
Basically I have made the Nords too powerful and Swadia too weak and this balance displeases me.
Become the Swadians, and plan your revenge againt King Ragnar
He is particularly notorious for awarding newly acquired holdings to himself, actually (as in, it's a scripted part of his personality vs the other rulers :P )
Is there any way to gain a fief without swearing loyalty? I must be queen.
Oh 100% - get yourself free of that mercenary contract and you can attack basically anyone you want, really.
One warning, however - probably everyone will initially be super-unhappy with you. You might be fighting a war against more than just the people you attacked >_>
It's not giving me the option. Do I need more troops maybe?
On further investigation, I'm thinking specifically of Mount and Blade Warband. So if it's original Mount and Blade, it may not be possible If it's Warband, you just need to have a negative relationship with the faction first, easily accomplished through attacking caravans, villagers, or raiding a village. Get it low enough, and you should be able to besiege to your heart's content!
Oh most people are zero
So THAT'S the issue
I can't just STEALTH RUIN YOU
And yeah it's Warband
Yeah, gotta engage in small-scale aggression before going TOTAL WAR on them :P
Mass Effects CODEX doesn't line up with the cutscenes either
probably because the cutscene guys couldn't figure out how to make an engaging fight between ships 500 miles apart with no two ships on the same side being within a few miles of any other ship
as I recall, the codex has a clause that crazy "knife-fight" engagements do happen at point-blank ranges, usually around contested targets
and that was the kind of fight that we only ever saw in the series IIRC (the Citadel battle, the Collector base, Earth?)
I mean they definitely did not do the big long-range bombardment thing but what they showed wasn't really in defiance of the codex as such, they just kept showing the thing that was supposed to be the exception
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Also the weekly darts games in Quark's.
There were more actual cultural things in DS9 because of the type of story they were telling.
You won 50%. 25% was a team win. And by win I mean a 35/100 score in Consulting Detective.
So I guess 75% technically.
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shouldn't your holodeck archive have literally hundreds of thousands or millions of such programs
The computer is so advanced you could just say "this video game from 400 years ago, please make it a holodeck program"
Star Destroyers have shields canonically though
If we go by like, nerdy as shit books, Star Wars wins because the people who designed ships did not understand scale
The output of a single Star Destroyer laser is something ridiculous like 1% of the energy used to power the entire earth at the moment.
it wins
i haven't liked a movie this much since dredd
Is there any way to gain a fief without swearing loyalty? I must be queen.
again, on DS9, people used holodecks for what you assumed they'd use them for
sex
power fantasies
games
meanwhile on Voyager they used it to make an Irish village LARP
no real star trek fan would be able to tolerate the uniform discrepancy there
On everything except their shield generator domes though, apparently.
apparently Worf is a rapist and murderer in his holodeck games and it was actually used against him in court to prove he was overly violent
Oh 100% - get yourself free of that mercenary contract and you can attack basically anyone you want, really.
One warning, however - probably everyone will initially be super-unhappy with you. You might be fighting a war against more than just the people you attacked >_>
i love it
so basically the death star is completely pointless
so the author just had no idea how much energy he was talking about because it completely doesn't mesh with the movies. A star destroyer blaster bolt hits a Republic cruiser's shield, the resulting radiation kills every TIE pilot in the area
The Empire has uh
issues
with their engineering school quality
It's not giving me the option. Do I need more troops maybe?
that's something I liked about the new movies is that they had scenes set in bars and clubs and stuff
they didn't go to any huge effort to have like, ostentatiously "23rd century"-sounding music playing but that is fine with me because it would almost certainly be ridiculous and the original Star Trek show was very much the adventures of two-fisted 20th century Americans in space anyway
(and I have always been okay with this because it forms a more visceral connection and because there's nothing that says it has to be taken as anything more literal than the fact that aliens all speak English among themselves or whatever. I am able to accept "Money for Nothing" on the future jukebox as, like, symbolic of what someone might be listening to in a crappy townie bar in the spacefuture rather than as some kind of literal truth.)
I really wish I had smoked something before reading this because my inner monologue went "Whoa.....dude....." when I finished.
Because this explains exactly why I always felt something was odd about Star Trek but I couldn't put my finger on it.
It also doesn't help that I pretty much walked away from the franchise when TNG ended, so I only really watched that stuff as a kid.
Assuming it's a future where trans-humanism is banned otherwise everyone would be a perfect machine or genetic superman who doesn't need to drink because chemicals can be released at will to achieved desired states of consciousness
Yeah
I always say "Star Wars ships probably win because the technical writers were idiots who did not understand numbers"
but if we don't put a window in the main reactor core how will we see out?
In Trek World 1990-2063 was pretty horrific. Even more so than the real world.
This is amazing.
probably because the cutscene guys couldn't figure out how to make an engaging fight between ships 500 miles apart with no two ships on the same side being within a few miles of any other ship
On further investigation, I'm thinking specifically of Mount and Blade Warband. So if it's original Mount and Blade, it may not be possible
I've already called Fury Road as the best movie of 2015 because there's no fucking way Star Wars is going to be that good, and what else is there? Jurassic World? Please.
Dredd took me by surprise. I've never read the comics and Stallone's Dredd was.....dreadful..... >.> but the new Dredd was fucking awesome.
I have one quibble, though. When he's on the intercom and he's all, "Ma-Ma's not the law. I'm the law." That should have been *click* done. Soliliquy over. Because "Judgment time" is kinda lame.
I didn't really put my finger on it until a couple years back when I was rewatching some DS9 with a friend of mine and I really kind of noticed it in the character of Jake Sisko
he's a civilian character who always wears these bland unitards and he just doesn't have any interests or anything, and then he wants to become a writer and a journalist and it kind of shines a light on the fact that I've never once really thought about media and pop culture in the Federation because it doesn't exist
Oh most people are zero
So THAT'S the issue
I can't just STEALTH RUIN YOU
And yeah it's Warband
Five of us, first case, and the first time any of us had played it.
No extra points were gained by the use of my amazing German accent in certain scenes.
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Yeah, gotta engage in small-scale aggression before going TOTAL WAR on them :P
as I recall, the codex has a clause that crazy "knife-fight" engagements do happen at point-blank ranges, usually around contested targets
and that was the kind of fight that we only ever saw in the series IIRC (the Citadel battle, the Collector base, Earth?)
I mean they definitely did not do the big long-range bombardment thing but what they showed wasn't really in defiance of the codex as such, they just kept showing the thing that was supposed to be the exception
i am double burging and milkshaking
life is gud