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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    i like


    spider-man

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    Okay I know Bleeding Cool is butts but this article is so hilarious I wanna mention it. They had a person cover Bendis' Spotlight panel at NYCC: SE, but apparently the reporter fucking hates Bendis and just fills the entire article with passive aggressive sniping
    Powers will get a Season 2. John Wick-ish, faster and darker. “We don’t get ratings so it’s basically going to be porn”, Bendis joked. They are going dark and bawdy, because you can’t get dark enough apparently. Bendis was active on production for Season 1, wrote an episode and hung out in the writers room, but will be more involved in production of Season 2. Which will be great if you love Bendis, but in my opinion maybe not so much if you like TV. “Sony wanted me to write more episodes… They want it more like the book and I can do that.” Bendis promised it would be different and unique. Which, also in my opinion, is what everyone projects. Like how Marvel will be all new and all different after Secret Wars, but it isn’t a reboot and continuity will continue uninterrupted. So. Same old, same old.

    [...]

    Bendis mentioned the honor of writing Spider-Man and Iron Man while discussing the difference between writing for Marvel’s mainstream line and writing something like Powers. Apparently his kids’ friends think he’s cool.

    David Fincher almost made a movie based on Torso. Matt Damon, Rachel McAdams, and Gary Oldman would have starred in it and it would have been in black and white, but an argument between Paramount and Fincher canned the project. Apparently.

    [...]

    “The internet kept saying you can’t create new mutants, but I kept creating new mutants. Sometimes it’s like the internet is full of shit!” Or sometimes the internet knows your continuity better than you do, Bendis.

    [...]

    He credited his success in the industry on the creation of Miles Morales. Which is very likely the truest thing said this whole panel.

    Like

    Goddamn

    Maybe don't go to a panel specifically about a guy and report on it if you don't like that guy

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    I don't know why you would expect better from a gossip rag

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I don't know why you would expect better from a gossip rag
    I don't really expect better I just haven't seen an article straight up snipe at the dude it was focusing on in comics before

    Admittedly that because most comics interviews are the definition of puff pieces but still

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    VivixenneVivixenne Remember your training, and we'll get through this just fine. Registered User regular
    I think comics interviews could do with a lot more constructive criticism/challenging questioning and a lot less fanboying/puff pieces, but at the same time, that article was absolutely none of that stuff, either. Just a dude who doesn't like someone that everyone else likes and thinks this makes him cool as a result.

    But yeah, Bleeding Cool isn't exactly journalism, so that explains it.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah, comics journalism is basically nonexistent outside of critical essays on published works

    The Marvel/DC PR machines basically control the flow of all info and are more than happy to make sure everything stays as on-message and clean and simple as possible

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    VivixenneVivixenne Remember your training, and we'll get through this just fine. Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    I am a big fan of the big houses addressing some of the diversity concerns and the portrayal of ladies. I don't think they're doing enough, to be clear, but that they're doing something at all is encouraging and it's why I'm happy to hop back into the world of comics after a decade and a half away.

    Tangentially, there was an interesting if brief conversation in the Marvel Heroes supergroup chat about the various costumes worn by the ladies in the game. Some folks were talking about how they're starting to feel embarrassed running around in the skimpier costume options.

    Which is GOOD! I remarked that, well, yes, they SHOULD be embarrassed spending cash money to deliberately by skimpy costumes, and I was glad to hear that.

    Naturally, Emma Frost comes up because there isn't a single costume she has that isn't, well, it's Emma Frost. Which led to a short chat about character design, in that Emma has and is a provocative character by nature, and that kind of costuming is linked to that characterisation. My remark in response is that I'd totally 100% buy that if most other Marvel ladies didn't also wear provocative (at times even explicit) costumes who weren't characterised that way.

    Kinda like, well, if it was JUST Emma, I'd be down with it. But because it's almost every lady ever, that just sounds a bit like yet another excuse to put a lady in skimpy clothing for the male gaze's sake.

    Like I'm reading Waid's Daredevil and there's that tussle he gets into with Black Cat and I kinda get the plot-based reasons for certain artistic choices in their interactions but it definitely made me uncomfortable to read it on a train surrounded by strangers. I find that this is a good metric for me to use to identify when something is probably nudging past a line.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    Black Cat and Daredevil are both really charismatic, sexually confident characters who have immediate chemistry though. Their fight being kinda sexy was entirely intentional and pays off later in that arc.

    Now stuff like Greg Land literally tracing porn for fights? Yeah inexcusable

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    VivixenneVivixenne Remember your training, and we'll get through this just fine. Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    there's ways to be sexy, confident, and sexually confident without a character's back arching so far that the only reason I haven't seen her nipples is that she must be wearing a mile of body tape right over her boobs

    is all I'm saying

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    I'm always surprised that places like Wired haven't just hire someone informed to produce journalism based on two of the biggest, high- grossing franchises in recent history and blow the places like Bleeding Cool out of the water. I think Wired is half-way to being decent trash due to their massive hipster bias, but at least they occasionally support their snipes with something.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Because dispite all the success of the films, comics are still basically the same niche as they ever were. Even when they do something crazy (like the new Thor) it gets a day of mainstream news and then vanishes off into the ether.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah the highest selling, non-loot crate boosted, comics sell around 300k

    It is still a very niche market

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    The sad thing is even when there IS a breakout comic, it doesn't translate to increases in the medium. Basically, people may get into Walking Dead or Saga, but they don't become regular comic readers because of it.

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    VivixenneVivixenne Remember your training, and we'll get through this just fine. Registered User regular
    Twitter is journalism, right?

    cuz the way Twitterers act, you'd think so

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    I liked the gimmick!

    And it isn't nonsensical, it just widely ignores how MK's psychosis had been portrayed in the past.

    I forgot, was the bendis one the one where he had like, cap wolvie and spidey in his head instead of konshu? Regardless, "Decent, but ignores how X was portrayed in the past" is basically Bendis' MO, isn't it?

    (TBH, half the reason I liked this recent moon knight run was that it toned down the konshu stuff a lot for the earlier issues)
    Owenashi wrote: »
    You know, I know that Bendis confirmed it was Tony but I wouldn't mind if Bendis pulled a fast one in making it Ultimate Tony.

    Hmm that gives me an idea
    Superior iron man spoilers
    What if the all new iron man is the AI tony?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Iron Man post Secret Wars is 100% confirmed to be 616 Tony Stark, and he's been shown in art already.

    Which I'm actually happy about, Tony deserves a good proper heroic spotlight after having a roooough few years

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    ArmorocArmoroc Registered User regular
    Superior Iron Man end spoiler
    Naw... AI Tony got fried at the end. That guy is dead. [Spoiler/]

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I do like how Bendis admitted they did try and tease the mystery of who Iron Man is but decided to drop it and just admit it is Tony because "there's so much crazy stuff coming after Secret Wars we didn't need it".

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Armoroc wrote: »
    Superior Iron Man end spoiler
    Naw... AI Tony got fried at the end. That guy is dead. [Spoiler/]
    He's on that flash drive, isn't he?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    Armoroc wrote: »
    Superior Iron Man end spoiler
    Naw... AI Tony got fried at the end. That guy is dead. [Spoiler/]
    He's on that flash drive, isn't he?
    Tony destroyed it when he atracked Kid Abomination. Its shown bent and smoking in his hand.

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