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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    i'm watching what happened

    and it's kidna cool watching my misery.

    but i need to apparently do a thing with sound mixing.

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  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    did a different thing this week with the chicken+(lime+black beans+rice) - marinaded the chicken in teriyaki sauce and baked separately instead of cooking with the rice&beans.

    isn't terrible.

  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    Truth be told, streaming services are the best DRM possible. All your music can blow up in a month if you don't pay your bill, all the offline tracks need to phone home occasionally to confirm you have the continued right to listen... If streaming supplants DRM free downloads we are right back to where we were when iTunes first launched, at least with regards to portability of content.

    But without the risk of lock-in to a platform the industry doesn't like, since customers don't actually own anything.

    exceeeept that Apple is aiming at locking up the streaming industry just like it did the mp3 industry. If everyone or most artists/rights holders pull out of spotify or rdio or whatever in favour of the greener pastures of Apple Music over time there are fewer and fewer viable competitors. Or spotify et al have to start offering equally lucrative deals for artists which they may or may not be able to afford.

    If it all goes according to keikaku then they will be the only viable option, for a main-line streaming service.

    That's just market pricing in action though. If consumers are willing to pay more, that correction should take place. If they are not willing to pay more, Apple's service will fail or have to adjust pricing. Then ultimately, if Apple can't make that business profitable and props it up with hardware sales, they'll get smacked with monopoly charges and forced to spin it off.

    Their price is the same price as the paid tier of spotify/rdio. They aren't overcharging.

    Actually, they tried rolling it out at 7.99 and the major labels rejected it because they are fucking dinosaurs.

    So just a bigger cut goes to labels? I wonder if Apple is making a profit because this service, like all their online services, will be backed by all the computing power of an elementary school science fair potato battery.

    Bigger cut goes to labels, especially in non-US markets. Apple seems less interested in profiting off of this as they creating just another "sticky" service to make jumping ship that much harder.

    As I recall Apple does not make a serious amount of their money from music or software. Less than 15% I think. They make all of their real money selling hardware. Namely iPhones and iPads. So if this thing ends up being revenue neutral for Apple, but gets a lot of money in the hands of artists and keeps the people who have iPhones happy with the brand.m, then it is valuable well beyond its standalone profitability.

    SW-4158-3990-6116
    Let's play Mario Kart or something...
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    are there any features apple music has that spotify premium doesn't?

    it is apple, so it is 8 times cooler
    it has 24/7 global radio curated by huu-mahns
    it will be more tightly integrated with your apple idevice
    Can you have offline stuff with spotify premium?

    It's not for me, but if I were in the market for a streaming service it sounds like it would be a significant improvement

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    are there any features apple music has that spotify premium doesn't?
    Can you have offline stuff with spotify premium?

    Yep

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    also, overheard at the grocery store:

    Child to Father: "What is the difference between this and the organic one?"
    Father to Child: "Organic tastes better"

    Marketing at work folks.
    My snarky, in-my-mind, answer was "About 3-4 times the normal cost for a similar product."

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    "I'm talking about the kind of direct threats that can make people fear for their safety. And if you're thinking 'Well c'mon, that doesn't seem like that big a problem', well congratulations on your white penis. Because if you have one of those, you probably have a very different experience of the internet."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuNIwYsz7PI

  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    @Organichu @Elendil is there a way to make the volume of the game and the volume of my dumb voice even out when streaming?

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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    are there any features apple music has that spotify premium doesn't?

    it is apple, so it is 8 times cooler
    it has 24/7 global radio curated by huu-mahns
    it will be more tightly integrated with your apple idevice
    Can you have offline stuff with spotify premium?

    It's not for me, but if I were in the market for a streaming service it sounds like it would be a significant improvement

    you can have offline stuff with spotify premium, yeah

    it would be nicer to have tighter integration- right now siri can't control spotify (and my car radio's media buttons won't work with spotify)

  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    syndalis wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    Truth be told, streaming services are the best DRM possible. All your music can blow up in a month if you don't pay your bill, all the offline tracks need to phone home occasionally to confirm you have the continued right to listen... If streaming supplants DRM free downloads we are right back to where we were when iTunes first launched, at least with regards to portability of content.

    But without the risk of lock-in to a platform the industry doesn't like, since customers don't actually own anything.

    exceeeept that Apple is aiming at locking up the streaming industry just like it did the mp3 industry. If everyone or most artists/rights holders pull out of spotify or rdio or whatever in favour of the greener pastures of Apple Music over time there are fewer and fewer viable competitors. Or spotify et al have to start offering equally lucrative deals for artists which they may or may not be able to afford.

    If it all goes according to keikaku then they will be the only viable option, for a main-line streaming service.

    That's just market pricing in action though. If consumers are willing to pay more, that correction should take place. If they are not willing to pay more, Apple's service will fail or have to adjust pricing. Then ultimately, if Apple can't make that business profitable and props it up with hardware sales, they'll get smacked with monopoly charges and forced to spin it off.

    Their price is the same price as the paid tier of spotify/rdio. They aren't overcharging.

    Actually, they tried rolling it out at 7.99 and the major labels rejected it because they are fucking dinosaurs.

    So just a bigger cut goes to labels? I wonder if Apple is making a profit because this service, like all their online services, will be backed by all the computing power of an elementary school science fair potato battery.

    Bigger cut goes to labels, especially in non-US markets. Apple seems less interested in profiting off of this as they creating just another "sticky" service to make jumping ship that much harder.

    As I recall Apple does not make a serious amount of their money from music or software. Less than 15% I think. They make all of their real money selling hardware. Namely iPhones and iPads. So if this thing ends up being revenue neutral for Apple, but gets a lot of money in the hands of artists and keeps the people who have iPhones happy with the brand.m, then it is valuable well beyond its standalone profitability.

    Right. They should be a bit careful with that, since if they start knocking out competitors, they could be accused of dumping and get hit with anti-trust actions.

    Donkey Kong on
    Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    a big plus of spotify is they have tons of deals (big student discount, plenty of 'three months for 2 dollars' or whatever things. i don't expect a lot of that with an apple service.

  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    due- yes, at least with the software i used

  • Blameless ClericBlameless Cleric An angel made of sapphires each more flawlessly cut than the last Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    hmm more art I have done tonight.

    @bloodyroarxx @TTODewback and other DAI peeps

    (Jawks of Hakkon DLC Spoilers inside)
    So if you recruit Storvacker from Stone Bear Hold you get a little letter from Cullen wherein he is upset that she seems to have mistaken him for a bear cub due to his fur boa coat lining.

    SO I DOODLED A THING??

    tumblr_nqbyszpmRa1ruojzgo2_1280.jpg
    tumblr_nqbyszpmRa1ruojzgo1_1280.jpg

    Blameless Cleric on
    Orphane wrote: »

    one flower ring to rule them all and in the sunlightness bind them

    I'd love it if you took a look at my art and my PATREON!
  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    I can say the same about the Balkans. Each time the plane landed, I was home. It could have been Turkey, Greece, Albania, Bulgaria (my birth country), or Macedonia - I wasn't an outsider. I understood the culture, the rawness of our ways, the dark humour of our days.

    But there is one thing I couldn't understand. What had happened to us? How did we start selling our own girls? How did we make profit from deceit and violence?

    At first, I was a photojournalist. I saw the world through the camera. And my idea was to return to my origins and find girls who had survived and escaped their traffickers and pimps.

    I knew about the shame and stigma in our culture. I knew that once a girl was forced into prostitution, she could never return and expect her village to understand her ordeal. She was judged, trashed, discarded - even by her own family.

    It took time to find women who had survived. I went to shelters; I met with lawyers and social workers. And when I finally sat there with one young lady, and took out my camera, I saw an indescribable terror in her eyes.

    I assumed that she was afraid of being photographed and recognised by those whom she had escaped. But that was far from the truth.

    The camera reminded many of the young women of their experience of being trafficked. They were often photographed by the pimps during what is known as the "break down" period - days or weeks of torture and rape designed to break down the spirit and resistance of their victims. Some were videotaped while being gang-raped.

    It was an effective method of control. "If you ever try to run away, we have the photos here as proof. We know where you live. We'll send them to your father, to your mother," they were told.

    I understood that the camera had become my foe.

    It would take time and trust. In some cases it took months, in some years.

    I pulled out a notepad instead and listened to their stories. I returned whenever I could. And over time, I started piecing together the reality of sex trafficking. I began to understand what greased its wheels - persistent poverty, demand and corruption.

    ...

    The banality of evil helps its disguise.

    Imagine this: an apartment in a regular neighbourhood in Istanbul with a fruit stand nearby. In it lives a husband, his wife and their two children. They have an extra room that is always locked.

    Men ring the doorbell during the day. It gets very busy around lunchtime. The husband unlocks the door to the room, stands outside, then escorts the men to the front door when they're finished, collects their money and tells them to come again.

    All the while, the wife and children go about their daily routine of homework, dish-washing and soap-opera watching.

    Inside the room are three trafficked girls from Moldova. There are dirty blankets on the floor. They sleep on those. The window is barred and locked. The girls wear T-shirts and panties. They haven't showered for days.

    The customer enters the room, chooses the girl he wants and forces himself on her. He pays by the minute.

    The other two huddle in the corner and wait for it to be over. They often face the wall, but they no longer cry.

    One of them has been looking for a sharp object with which to slit her wrists but finds nothing in the room.

    She will have to steal something from a client. She hopes for a knife, but wonders how she will get it from his pocket.

    Once a day, the door opens and the man - the father of the children and husband of the wife - throws a few bananas into the room, then quickly locks the door. They are nothing but filthy animals, he thinks to himself.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2015/06/magazine-undercover-sex-worker-human-trafficking-150610072623672.html

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    also, overheard at the grocery store:

    Child to Father: "What is the difference between this and the organic one?"
    Father to Child: "Organic tastes better"

    Marketing at work folks.
    My snarky, in-my-mind, answer was "About 3-4 times the normal cost for a similar product."

    Not necessarily. On some products the organic does actually taste better.

    I always buy the organic carrots at my local grocery story because while they are a bit more expensive they just taste WAY better.

    Like anything, it's different from product to product. (In fact a large part of the food business is obfuscating these differences to make marketing work)

  • programjunkieprogramjunkie Registered User regular
    In all, congrats consumers, you certainly did a great job following the trail of candy leading under the box propped up by a stick.

    Pretty much. Consumers are almost as bad as everything else in the process.

  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    cheerful reading /s

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    I can say the same about the Balkans. Each time the plane landed, I was home. It could have been Turkey, Greece, Albania, Bulgaria (my birth country), or Macedonia - I wasn't an outsider. I understood the culture, the rawness of our ways, the dark humour of our days.

    But there is one thing I couldn't understand. What had happened to us? How did we start selling our own girls? How did we make profit from deceit and violence?

    At first, I was a photojournalist. I saw the world through the camera. And my idea was to return to my origins and find girls who had survived and escaped their traffickers and pimps.

    I knew about the shame and stigma in our culture. I knew that once a girl was forced into prostitution, she could never return and expect her village to understand her ordeal. She was judged, trashed, discarded - even by her own family.

    It took time to find women who had survived. I went to shelters; I met with lawyers and social workers. And when I finally sat there with one young lady, and took out my camera, I saw an indescribable terror in her eyes.

    I assumed that she was afraid of being photographed and recognised by those whom she had escaped. But that was far from the truth.

    The camera reminded many of the young women of their experience of being trafficked. They were often photographed by the pimps during what is known as the "break down" period - days or weeks of torture and rape designed to break down the spirit and resistance of their victims. Some were videotaped while being gang-raped.

    It was an effective method of control. "If you ever try to run away, we have the photos here as proof. We know where you live. We'll send them to your father, to your mother," they were told.

    I understood that the camera had become my foe.

    It would take time and trust. In some cases it took months, in some years.

    I pulled out a notepad instead and listened to their stories. I returned whenever I could. And over time, I started piecing together the reality of sex trafficking. I began to understand what greased its wheels - persistent poverty, demand and corruption.

    ...

    The banality of evil helps its disguise.

    Imagine this: an apartment in a regular neighbourhood in Istanbul with a fruit stand nearby. In it lives a husband, his wife and their two children. They have an extra room that is always locked.

    Men ring the doorbell during the day. It gets very busy around lunchtime. The husband unlocks the door to the room, stands outside, then escorts the men to the front door when they're finished, collects their money and tells them to come again.

    All the while, the wife and children go about their daily routine of homework, dish-washing and soap-opera watching.

    Inside the room are three trafficked girls from Moldova. There are dirty blankets on the floor. They sleep on those. The window is barred and locked. The girls wear T-shirts and panties. They haven't showered for days.

    The customer enters the room, chooses the girl he wants and forces himself on her. He pays by the minute.

    The other two huddle in the corner and wait for it to be over. They often face the wall, but they no longer cry.

    One of them has been looking for a sharp object with which to slit her wrists but finds nothing in the room.

    She will have to steal something from a client. She hopes for a knife, but wonders how she will get it from his pocket.

    Once a day, the door opens and the man - the father of the children and husband of the wife - throws a few bananas into the room, then quickly locks the door. They are nothing but filthy animals, he thinks to himself.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2015/06/magazine-undercover-sex-worker-human-trafficking-150610072623672.html

    yikes

  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    also, overheard at the grocery store:

    Child to Father: "What is the difference between this and the organic one?"
    Father to Child: "Organic tastes better"

    Marketing at work folks.
    My snarky, in-my-mind, answer was "About 3-4 times the normal cost for a similar product."

    Not necessarily. On some products the organic does actually taste better.

    I always buy the organic carrots at my local grocery story because while they are a bit more expensive they just taste WAY better.

    Like anything, it's different from product to product. (In fact a large part of the food business is obfuscating these differences to make marketing work)

    I can dig it.

  • knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    As more producers go organic, the quality tends to improve.

    I can remember not that long ago "organic" meant shriveled, bug/disease-infested produce at 3x the price.

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    due- yes, at least with the software i used

    what chu use bruv? i got xsplit.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    the use of gang rape as a disciplinary method is not novel, but I can see the video tape thing evolving

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    In all, congrats consumers, you certainly did a great job following the trail of candy leading under the box propped up by a stick.

    Pretty much. Consumers are almost as bad as everything else in the process.

    Yeah, there's no actual reason consumers seeking the cheapest/easiest/most accommodating option will actually pick the best one for them.

  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    if something does legitimately taste better as organic produce it is because it is a premium product often afforded a better quality control and production processes by virtue of its premium pricetag (or sometimes necessitated because organic farming is less efficient/effective).

    that said I am sceptical of the ability to discern a difference in double blind testing

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    As more producers go organic, the quality tends to improve.

    I can remember not that long ago "organic" meant shriveled, bug/disease-infested produce at 3x the price.

    Yeah on some things it still is and for some products it's just not worth it.

    On others, it's actually a better product.

    And sometimes it's just brown eggs, which sell for more because they are brown.

  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    i wish more people would congratulate me for my white penis

    p proud of that guy

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    cheerful reading /s

    The Istanbul flat is unspeakably distressing.

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    I can say the same about the Balkans. Each time the plane landed, I was home. It could have been Turkey, Greece, Albania, Bulgaria (my birth country), or Macedonia - I wasn't an outsider. I understood the culture, the rawness of our ways, the dark humour of our days.

    But there is one thing I couldn't understand. What had happened to us? How did we start selling our own girls? How did we make profit from deceit and violence?

    At first, I was a photojournalist. I saw the world through the camera. And my idea was to return to my origins and find girls who had survived and escaped their traffickers and pimps.

    I knew about the shame and stigma in our culture. I knew that once a girl was forced into prostitution, she could never return and expect her village to understand her ordeal. She was judged, trashed, discarded - even by her own family.

    It took time to find women who had survived. I went to shelters; I met with lawyers and social workers. And when I finally sat there with one young lady, and took out my camera, I saw an indescribable terror in her eyes.

    I assumed that she was afraid of being photographed and recognised by those whom she had escaped. But that was far from the truth.

    The camera reminded many of the young women of their experience of being trafficked. They were often photographed by the pimps during what is known as the "break down" period - days or weeks of torture and rape designed to break down the spirit and resistance of their victims. Some were videotaped while being gang-raped.

    It was an effective method of control. "If you ever try to run away, we have the photos here as proof. We know where you live. We'll send them to your father, to your mother," they were told.

    I understood that the camera had become my foe.

    It would take time and trust. In some cases it took months, in some years.

    I pulled out a notepad instead and listened to their stories. I returned whenever I could. And over time, I started piecing together the reality of sex trafficking. I began to understand what greased its wheels - persistent poverty, demand and corruption.

    ...

    The banality of evil helps its disguise.

    Imagine this: an apartment in a regular neighbourhood in Istanbul with a fruit stand nearby. In it lives a husband, his wife and their two children. They have an extra room that is always locked.

    Men ring the doorbell during the day. It gets very busy around lunchtime. The husband unlocks the door to the room, stands outside, then escorts the men to the front door when they're finished, collects their money and tells them to come again.

    All the while, the wife and children go about their daily routine of homework, dish-washing and soap-opera watching.

    Inside the room are three trafficked girls from Moldova. There are dirty blankets on the floor. They sleep on those. The window is barred and locked. The girls wear T-shirts and panties. They haven't showered for days.

    The customer enters the room, chooses the girl he wants and forces himself on her. He pays by the minute.

    The other two huddle in the corner and wait for it to be over. They often face the wall, but they no longer cry.

    One of them has been looking for a sharp object with which to slit her wrists but finds nothing in the room.

    She will have to steal something from a client. She hopes for a knife, but wonders how she will get it from his pocket.

    Once a day, the door opens and the man - the father of the children and husband of the wife - throws a few bananas into the room, then quickly locks the door. They are nothing but filthy animals, he thinks to himself.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2015/06/magazine-undercover-sex-worker-human-trafficking-150610072623672.html

    yikes

    So far, a nice breezy read.

  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    DasUberEdward on
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  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    815165 wrote: »
    i wish more people would congratulate me for my white penis

    p proud of that guy

    You have to announce your white penis achievements on social media, get those likes and retweets going

    Eventually your white penis will be tapped to start appearing at minor events

    eventually it'll have a brief relationship with Taylor Swift

  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    In other interesting news, wine is weird.

    Most poeple don't know enough about wine based to make an informed decision about what represents good wine and thus what is or is not an appropriate pricetag. So, instead, we buy based on price to inform apparent quality. Which inverts supply and demand and consumer perception driving the price/value proposition.

    Also, in double blinded tests most people like the 4 dollar stuff as much as the 40 dollar stuff

  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    simonwolf wrote: »
    815165 wrote: »
    i wish more people would congratulate me for my white penis

    p proud of that guy

    You have to announce your white penis achievements on social media, get those likes and retweets going

    Eventually your white penis will be tapped to start appearing at minor events

    eventually it'll have a brief relationship with Taylor Swift

    that relationship would be brief fo sho :(

  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Organichu wrote: »
    due- yes, at least with the software i used

    what chu use bruv? i got xsplit.

    i use open broadcaster software but xsplit is a p major thing i'd be surprised if there was nothing

  • knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    Numbers' White Penis wins Grammy for Song of the Year.

    “I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
    -Indiana Solo, runner of blades
  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    also, dis chili con carne is gonna keep me up all night.

    is worth it though.

    meals for days and days now.

  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    "yo Taylor, I'm really happy for you, I'll let you finish, but Beyoncé has one of the best white penises of all time"

  • GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    Thank you, Al Jazeera. I didn't feel like smiling tonight anyhow.

  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    an ama from a porn star who makes my favorite kind of porn!?

    *subscribe*

  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    also simon i'm tired pls proxy rub one out for me to these videos

    i'll hit you back tomorrow night with a jerking r/t or w-e

  • simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    also simon i'm tired pls proxy rub one out for me to these videos

    i'll hit you back tomorrow night with a jerking r/t or w-e

    no problemo duder

    *unzips*

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