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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Mortious wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Mortious wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    i dunno though

    i don't see any evidence a "we don't negotiate with terrorists" policy really does anything to reduce terrorism

    Wait, is that actually a policy? I thought it was some sort of TV trope.

    it's the USA's official stance, paraphrased

    Was this implemented after you guys negotiated with all those terrorists?

    So, last Tuesday?

    no see

    if we negotiate with them they aren't terrorists

    until maybe later when they are again

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    like for instance, Mass Effect 1 is in the developer preview program, with 2 and 3 likely to be available before Andromeda is released. So it will be the only console where you can play the entire series.

    I don't think anyone who has played all three wants to play ME1 though.

    I don't want to play ME1 again.

    I want to get through it because I do want to be able to make different choices and stuff and see how it affects the sequels.

    That being said, I do not play shooters on console because I am bad enough with KBAM, no need to exacerbate the problem.

    There's DLC where you just make choices and watch a cinematic!

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    JeanJean Heartbroken papa bear Gatineau, QuébecRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    Mortious wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Mortious wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    i dunno though

    i don't see any evidence a "we don't negotiate with terrorists" policy really does anything to reduce terrorism

    Wait, is that actually a policy? I thought it was some sort of TV trope.

    it's the USA's official stance, paraphrased

    Was this implemented after you guys negotiated with all those terrorists?

    So, last Tuesday?

    no see

    if we negotiate with them they aren't terrorists

    until maybe later when they are again

    Also known as ''ennemies of my ennemies are my friends''

    "You won't destroy us, You won't destroy our democracy. We are a small but proud nation. No one can bomb us to silence. No one can scare us from being Norway. This evening and tonight, we'll take care of each other. That's what we do best when attacked'' - Jens Stoltenberg
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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    i will say presenting yourself and your view as representative of the american public is kind of eh

    on the other hand it turns out spool's viewpoint on Americans and socialism was backed by statistical data so

    is there a link you or spool could share

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/socialist-presidential-candidates-least-appealing.aspx?utm_source=Politics&utm_medium=newsfeed&utm_campaign=tiles

    got linked in this thread

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Jean wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Mortious wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Mortious wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    i dunno though

    i don't see any evidence a "we don't negotiate with terrorists" policy really does anything to reduce terrorism

    Wait, is that actually a policy? I thought it was some sort of TV trope.

    it's the USA's official stance, paraphrased

    Was this implemented after you guys negotiated with all those terrorists?

    So, last Tuesday?

    no see

    if we negotiate with them they aren't terrorists

    until maybe later when they are again

    Also known as ''ennemies of my ennemies are my friends''

    kind of

    more like

    how much money you got

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Could I get a link to where it says you need a Slim as opposed to a model with 250 GB?

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Surfpossum wrote: »
    I have been lusting after a Martin & Co. for many moons now and your acquisition awakened old hungers (altho I was slightly more partial to the sound of the spruce top over the mahogany, in spite of the latter's loveliness).

    And I impulse bought yet another hundred dollar electric (since none of my guitars are with me) and have decided to set a goal in Rocksmith hours with a very expensive reward.

    So thanks for that.

    you're welcome!

    @surfpossum the one i got is actually sapele, not mahogany, but the sound is very very similar. it has a really rich bassy/mellow sound, not so much jangle on the high strings, which is exactly what i want for folksy stuff where i palm mute and hammer/pull the low strings, or do fingerpicking

    the spruce tops have a good classic sound though.

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    tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    i will say presenting yourself and your view as representative of the american public is kind of eh

    on the other hand it turns out spool's viewpoint on Americans and socialism was backed by statistical data so

    is there a link you or spool could share

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/socialist-presidential-candidates-least-appealing.aspx?utm_source=Politics&utm_medium=newsfeed&utm_campaign=tiles

    got linked in this thread

    pretty clear there

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    scheck this is serious we're having a video games emergency stop fooling around

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    also i made a tinder profile and i... can't help but feel there's something unhealthy about this

    maybe not for everyone, but definitely for me

    also people really like sports

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    I had a medical concern yesterday.

    Called medical, saw my doctor three hours later.

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    my wife is having a nerve sheath tumor removed from her thigh in about a week

    the total cost of the entire process over the past six months, from doctor visits to ultrasounds to blood tests to MRIs to now surgery

    is

    $0

    socialism

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    ah yes the gallup poll

    that is all well and fine but i am willing to bet a not insignificant percentage of those in the "no" column have a tenuous grasp of socialism

    and likely benefit from socialist programs in america

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    tyrannus wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    i will say presenting yourself and your view as representative of the american public is kind of eh

    on the other hand it turns out spool's viewpoint on Americans and socialism was backed by statistical data so

    is there a link you or spool could share

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/socialist-presidential-candidates-least-appealing.aspx?utm_source=Politics&utm_medium=newsfeed&utm_campaign=tiles

    got linked in this thread

    pretty clear there

    i dunno if 50% no is a vast majority

    or a majority

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    self-reported survey data buttblasts everyone tho

    Shameful pursuits and utterly stupid opinions
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    tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    tyrannus wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    i will say presenting yourself and your view as representative of the american public is kind of eh

    on the other hand it turns out spool's viewpoint on Americans and socialism was backed by statistical data so

    is there a link you or spool could share

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/socialist-presidential-candidates-least-appealing.aspx?utm_source=Politics&utm_medium=newsfeed&utm_campaign=tiles

    got linked in this thread

    pretty clear there

    i dunno if 50% no is a vast majority

    or a majority

    just love to see how bad the socialist shit is

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    also i made a tinder profile and i... can't help but feel there's something unhealthy about this

    maybe not for everyone, but definitely for me

    also people really like sports

    can i swipe u left or right or however it works

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    i dunno though

    i don't see any evidence a "we don't negotiate with terrorists" policy really does anything to reduce terrorism

    we haven't tried the other way though, things might get way worse.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    ah yes the gallup poll

    that is all well and fine but i am willing to bet a not insignificant percentage of those in the "no" column have a tenuous grasp of socialism

    and likely benefit from socialist programs in america

    oh sure

    but that was where the whole Craig T. Nelson clip came in

    where a lot of Americans hate the word socialist

    but love policies and procedures and programs that are basically socialist in nature

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Hey butts

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    ah yes the gallup poll

    that is all well and fine but i am willing to bet a not insignificant percentage of those in the "no" column have a tenuous grasp of socialism

    and likely benefit from socialist programs in america

    but this is da problem

    american citizenry wants socialism, explicitly believes that the current distribution of wealth is unfair, but shies away in horror from candidates professing to be or labelled as socialist init

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    simonwolf wrote: »
    Winky keep in mind that Miyazaki was also saying that stuff in the 1980s - his reflective essay on the life of Tezuka was entirely framed around him saying things like "everything Tezuka said or thought was wrong", that Tezuka's work had ruined the Japanese animation industry, etc. There's another essay published in 1982 where he derides animation that isn't within his specific vision, and says that the advent of home video will finally be the death knell of bad/limited animation (since it will just start cannibalising itself) and he can start getting stuff he likes out there.

    There's definitely changes that happened in the period, and the presentation I'm giving at a conference next week is mostly about the changes in narrative structure that changed between the pre- and post-1990s, but Miyazaki has always loathed the animation industry spawned by "Tezuka's curse" (aka anything limited animation).

    Alright, so after reading this post I wiki'd Tezuka to see what else he'd made besides for Astroboy and Metropolis, and I'm ashamed to learn that he had made a film in 1970 called "Cleopatra: Queen of Sex" and I didn't even know about it!

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    i dunno though

    i don't see any evidence a "we don't negotiate with terrorists" policy really does anything to reduce terrorism

    we haven't tried the other way though, things might get way worse.

    i suppose that's possible

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Hey butts

    Hello SiG.

    I made a game! Hotline Maui. Requires mouse and keyboard.
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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    ah yes the gallup poll

    that is all well and fine but i am willing to bet a not insignificant percentage of those in the "no" column have a tenuous grasp of socialism

    and likely benefit from socialist programs in america

    It is basically accepted fact that the majority of people in the United States deplore Socialism for a number of reasons tied to both the Cold War and our institutional aspirational and puritanical beliefs about work and getting what one is Deserved. However, it is also established political fact that an even larger majority of people simply adore the things that socialism delivers in this country and would support their expansion so long as they weren't called things like Welfare or Assistance or Obamacare etc etc

    The messaging war on these issues is very neatly controlled by the extended right wing, to our detriment as a society in my opinion.

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Hey butts

    correct

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    JuliusJulius Captain of Serenity on my shipRegistered User regular
    Man I got a bunch of mouth ulcers and I'm used to them but today I discovered another thing in my mouth that doesn't look like a regular ulcer and doesn't actually hurt.

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    cB557 wrote: »
    Auuuuuuuguh. DAMMIT. The trade in deal needs an Xbox with 250 GB of storage, mine has 229.
    God.
    That is just... so fucking frustrating.

    um, where are you getting that number?

    I think it's just the formatted/unformatted difference.



    If I'm right I'm going to lol at you for a few days.

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Of course calling Obamacare socialism is a bit like calling a subway sandwich food.

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    ah yes the gallup poll

    that is all well and fine but i am willing to bet a not insignificant percentage of those in the "no" column have a tenuous grasp of socialism

    and likely benefit from socialist programs in america

    oh sure

    but that was where the whole Craig T. Nelson clip came in

    where a lot of Americans hate the word socialist

    but love policies and procedures and programs that are basically socialist in nature

    i think i missed the very beginning of that

    but yeah

    socialist if a poisonous word in american politics but not because we actually hate socialist policies

    if sanders self identified another way i bet those numbers would look different

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    programjunkieprogramjunkie Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    spool32 wrote: »
    Mortious wrote: »
    As I walked past the breakroom TV, the BBC/CNN lady said "Obama said the United States Government will no longer victimize the families of kidnap victims"

    I either misheard, or missed the context of that line, because it makes no sense as written.

    People who try to ransom their family members were under threat of prosecution for giving material aid to a terrorist organization.

    They should be. Paying ransoms not only encourages future kidnappings, but it directly funds them. The blood of every future victim is on their hands.

    Kidnapping should always, 100% of the time be a law enforcement / military issue.

    Nope

    It does reward kidnapping, directly. It does say to kidnappers "Yes, this is something you can make money doing if you do it again", and it does nothing to disincentivize kidnappers from repeating what they just did.

    No, it does not make the family members who pay it at fault or responsible for the crimes the kidnappers continue to commit henceforth. That fault lies entirely on the kidnappers for making the choice to kidnap again. There is a huge gulf between the two things, and you are obfuscating the two. What you are doing is straight up victim-blaming.

    It's in the same neighborhood of saying "If you don't report a crime committed against you, you're to blame for that criminal continuing to commit those crimes" and that is really fucked up

    It would be "victim blaming," if they weren't literally paying the bribe to the local police, buying the AK-47s, and the windowless van, and the chains in the holding cell, and the disposable mobile phones and SIMs, etc. It requires resources to run criminal enterprises, and they are knowingly and willingly (albeit under coercion) providing those resources. That's just normal blaming.

    This is actually a great example of what I was talking about before. Worrying about victim blaming, AKA people's feelings, taking precedence over actually denying resources to violent criminal enterprises with the long term goal of eliminating them via a combination of economic strangulation and direct action. The thing is, long term, more people's feelings will be hurt by expansive, wildly profitable, wildly successful kidnapping rings (which are often used to fund dangerous insurgencies, so throw in bombings and public terrorist executions and the like to the list), than by telling them they are responsible for the consequences of their own actions, and that it isn't okay to fund terrorism.

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    tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/?src=prc-headline

    are pew polls good?
    Socialism is a negative for most Americans, but certainly not all. Six-in-ten (60%) say they have a negative reaction to the word; 31% have a positive reaction. Those numbers are little changed from when the question was last asked in April 2010.

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    ah yes the gallup poll

    that is all well and fine but i am willing to bet a not insignificant percentage of those in the "no" column have a tenuous grasp of socialism

    and likely benefit from socialist programs in america

    oh sure

    but that was where the whole Craig T. Nelson clip came in

    where a lot of Americans hate the word socialist

    but love policies and procedures and programs that are basically socialist in nature

    i think i missed the very beginning of that

    but yeah

    socialist if a poisonous word in american politics but not because we actually hate socialist policies

    if sanders self identified another way i bet those numbers would look different

    what would happen if he self-identified as african-american tho

    #topical

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Of course calling Obamacare socialism is a bit like calling a subway sandwich food.

    that's not fair

    thinking subway is food can actually kill you

    if you think obamacare is socialism you're just wrong

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    Of course calling Obamacare socialism is a bit like calling a subway sandwich food.

    I'm not sure I agree with either of these sentiments, but I absolutely adore this analogy.

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    ah yes the gallup poll

    that is all well and fine but i am willing to bet a not insignificant percentage of those in the "no" column have a tenuous grasp of socialism

    and likely benefit from socialist programs in america

    but this is da problem

    american citizenry wants socialism, explicitly believes that the current distribution of wealth is unfair, but shies away in horror from candidates professing to be or labelled as socialist init

    Bernie Sanders is the hero we need

    Alex Salmond is the hero we deserve

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Oh fuck I forgot it says how much much memory it has on the hard drive
    aaaaaaand thank god oh man it says 250GB
    oh man okay so my parents are gonna talk about it
    still not might get a One but hey it feels so much better to have it be a possibility rather than not even having to possibility because of 21 GB

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    ah yes the gallup poll

    that is all well and fine but i am willing to bet a not insignificant percentage of those in the "no" column have a tenuous grasp of socialism

    and likely benefit from socialist programs in america

    I would not risk a near-certain victory on the hopes that we could educate the people who do not know he word they hate they don't actually hate.

    SW-4158-3990-6116
    Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    a buddy of mine who is a doctor in california did a rough estimate of how much my wife's whole shindig with the medical system over the past six months would have been had we not had medical insurance in the US, surgery included

    he was like

    oh

    about $27,000

    and i was like

    hrgk

    he's like but!

    nowadays you'd have Obamacare

    so it'd be more like

    maybe a grand, grand and a half co-pay

    hrgk

    i dunno if he was fuckin' with me or not, i haven't tried to run the numbers myself

    but jesus h christ

    what a nightmare

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    ah yes the gallup poll

    that is all well and fine but i am willing to bet a not insignificant percentage of those in the "no" column have a tenuous grasp of socialism

    and likely benefit from socialist programs in america

    yes the "americans are idiots, if they only really knew what they believed they'd agree with me" argument.

    I'm not a fan.

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