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    MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    Houk wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    Which is the one where the dinosaurs take over the cargo ship and crash it into all the people?

    That's JP2.

    And it's just one T-Rex.

    The T-Rex sneaks into a family's backyard and eats a dog.

    Oh yeah, the TRex somehow snuck into the human sized ship bridge and ate everything but the hand holding the wheel.

    That was the one thing about the movie that I truly could not fathom an explanation for.

    Like a bunch of the other dumb stuff could mostly be movie magic-ed away, but the idea that the rex could get out of the cargo hold, eat the dude on the bridge, then somehow got back in the cargo hold

    I just can't get my head around it

    Maybe someone assumed it was supposed to be raptors on the boat and it didn't noticed till way too late into editing.

    Man, raptors on the mainland would've been super scary shit.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    It depends. Do you like dinosaurs?

    Not really, no
    Wow, rude

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Look, JP1 has the cliff, JP2 has the boat. Fair's fair.

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    Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    some dude on the ship saw the way the wind was blowing once that t-rex got loose and tried to curry favor by eating the captain himself

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    PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    Matev wrote: »
    Houk wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    Which is the one where the dinosaurs take over the cargo ship and crash it into all the people?

    That's JP2.

    And it's just one T-Rex.

    The T-Rex sneaks into a family's backyard and eats a dog.

    Oh yeah, the TRex somehow snuck into the human sized ship bridge and ate everything but the hand holding the wheel.

    That was the one thing about the movie that I truly could not fathom an explanation for.

    Like a bunch of the other dumb stuff could mostly be movie magic-ed away, but the idea that the rex could get out of the cargo hold, eat the dude on the bridge, then somehow got back in the cargo hold

    I just can't get my head around it

    Maybe someone assumed it was supposed to be raptors on the boat and it didn't noticed till way too late into editing.

    Man, raptors on the mainland would've been super scary shit.
    This from The Lost World: Jurrasic Park's IMDB page:


    The script called for a scene where the Velociraptors got on board the Venture as it was about to set sail. As chaos ensued, the T-Rex also got loose, and killed everything else aboard. This explains why many of the crew members are dead in places the Rex cannot reach. The scene was never filmed.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    It depends. Do you like dinosaurs?

    Not really, no

    Then the fuck is wrong with you?

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    It depends. Do you like dinosaurs?

    Not really, no

    Well that's easy because...

    What John Hammond and InGen did at Jurassic Park is create genetically engineered theme park monsters! Nothing more and nothing less.

    But seriously @Mr. G, it's a top-tier monsters/horror/survival film that set the line in cinema for special effects (and still holds it against most films today). The characters are quirky & fun, the soundtrack is superb, the story is classically sound, and the film is solid all the way through.

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    jurassic park 2 asked america a simple question

    "can gymkata make a comeback?"

    america said no.


    america is goddamn stupid.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    Matev wrote: »
    Houk wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    Which is the one where the dinosaurs take over the cargo ship and crash it into all the people?

    That's JP2.

    And it's just one T-Rex.

    The T-Rex sneaks into a family's backyard and eats a dog.

    Oh yeah, the TRex somehow snuck into the human sized ship bridge and ate everything but the hand holding the wheel.

    That was the one thing about the movie that I truly could not fathom an explanation for.

    Like a bunch of the other dumb stuff could mostly be movie magic-ed away, but the idea that the rex could get out of the cargo hold, eat the dude on the bridge, then somehow got back in the cargo hold

    I just can't get my head around it

    Maybe someone assumed it was supposed to be raptors on the boat and it didn't noticed till way too late into editing.

    Man, raptors on the mainland would've been super scary shit.
    This from The Lost World: Jurrasic Park's IMDB page:


    The script called for a scene where the Velociraptors got on board the Venture as it was about to set sail. As chaos ensued, the T-Rex also got loose, and killed everything else aboard. This explains why many of the crew members are dead in places the Rex cannot reach. The scene was never filmed.

    I'm not sure ships can just start sailing from one port, then without a crew just happen to turn up at exactly the port they were originally going to without anyone controlling anything. It's not like the ports were in a straight line or anything and obviously the ship did not have a fancy computer since it crashed.

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    I think one of the least talked about parts of Jurassic Park is its intensity towards the children in it.

    The kids in Jurassic World have a pretty rough time during that story.

    But Tim & Lex have it so much worse.

    Like holy shit, they are just getting shit on the whole time by terror & danger.

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    I think one of the least talked about parts of Jurassic Park is its intensity towards the children in it.

    The kids in Jurassic World have a pretty rough time during that story.

    But Tim & Lex have it so much worse.

    Like holy shit, they are just getting shit on the whole time by terror & danger.

    Which makes us root for them. Kids are continually in the shit, we worry about them getting through alright. Kids just kind of wander near danger, we wonder why they're so stupid.

    Youths.

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    SaraLunaSaraLuna Registered User regular
    Matev wrote: »
    Houk wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    Which is the one where the dinosaurs take over the cargo ship and crash it into all the people?

    That's JP2.

    And it's just one T-Rex.

    The T-Rex sneaks into a family's backyard and eats a dog.

    Oh yeah, the TRex somehow snuck into the human sized ship bridge and ate everything but the hand holding the wheel.

    That was the one thing about the movie that I truly could not fathom an explanation for.

    Like a bunch of the other dumb stuff could mostly be movie magic-ed away, but the idea that the rex could get out of the cargo hold, eat the dude on the bridge, then somehow got back in the cargo hold

    I just can't get my head around it

    Maybe someone assumed it was supposed to be raptors on the boat and it didn't noticed till way too late into editing.

    Man, raptors on the mainland would've been super scary shit.

    oh hey, speaking of raptors running free...

    JW spoilers, I guess
    the T-rex is the original one from JP. now I can buy that a well-equipped force could show up at the island and subdue one, or even a few, t-rexes. they're pretty big and probably easy to track with thermal imaging.

    but what about all the smaller ones? they knew at least some were breeding, so how do you capture an unknown, possibly large, quantity of raptors/spitters/compys/etc.?
    short of burning the whole thing down, it seems like sending all your dudes into a deathtrap

    and semi-related backstory wankery - the park has only been open for ten years in the movie. how could they have possibly hit a slump in visitors yet? let alone often enough to know "oh yeah, new dinosaur every 2 years or no one comes anymore"?

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    Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    jurassic park 2 asked america a simple question

    "can gymkata make a comeback?"

    america said no.


    america is goddamn stupid.

    what happened to the american dream

    where did it all go wrong

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Jurassic Park's effects are so good that even its sequels suck compared to it.

    Hell, most movies today WISH they could look as good as Jurassic Park.

    Not counting the outdated Technology references...

    But the one thing I liked in JP 2 was something they took from the actual book, and that was the scene with the tiny biting dinos. Except in the book...well, I won't spoil the book.

    The book is really good you guys.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    the book is good if you can get over how non of the character posseses any redeeming features or personality traits whatsoever

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    QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    the book is good if you can get over how non of the character posseses any redeeming features or personality traits whatsoever

    So it's like Jurassic World then?

    I kid, I kid.

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    Qanamil wrote: »
    the book is good if you can get over how non of the character posseses any redeeming features or personality traits whatsoever

    So it's like Jurassic World then?

    I kid, I kid.

    no because i enjoyed reading the book

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Zonugal wrote: »
    I think one of the least talked about parts of Jurassic Park is its intensity towards the children in it.

    The kids in Jurassic World have a pretty rough time during that story.

    But Tim & Lex have it so much worse.

    Like holy shit, they are just getting shit on the whole time by terror & danger.

    Which makes us root for them. Kids are continually in the shit, we worry about them getting through alright. Kids just kind of wander near danger, we wonder why they're so stupid.

    Youths.

    Nah, I always hope kids in movies and shows get killed off just so I don't have to put up with their bullshit.

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    Jurassic park 2 is a film with good parts and bad parts

    its worth watching

    The more I think about it, the more I want to rank the Lost World in front of Jurassic World.

    Jurassic World is generally more fun, but in every other respect it's not as good as Lost World.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    I haven't seen Jurassic World, but I'd rank Jurassic Park 2 higher, if only because of the time I saw it at school camp and was too scared to sleep in the forest.

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    By the way, Jurassic World doesn't retcon the previous films, it just largely ignores them.

    Spoilers ahoy!
    Control Room Guy has a copy of The Lost World by Dr. Ian Malcolm on his desk, and the way the raptors communicate with Indominus is based on a plot point in JP3.

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    VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    Was it The Lost World book that had the bit where a pack of nocturnal raptors ambush Malcolm and his group and start dragging live folks off back to their nesting site, Aliens style?

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    I don't know but it happens in the Lost World movie.

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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    DON'T GO INTO THE LONG GRASS

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    I love that basically all the deaths in that film are cause by Julian Moore and Vince Vaughn's characters. Every single thing that went wrong can essentially be traced back to their rampant stupidity.

    And yes the scene at the end with the eaten captain, here's a breakdown of how they edited it:
    http://youtu.be/4ZcPymyjUL0

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Hey, you know what Jurassic Park: the Lost World gave us?

    A pretty kickass song for when raptors attack.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9rHcFXsI0

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Dex Dynamo wrote: »
    jurassic park 2 asked america a simple question

    "can gymkata make a comeback?"

    america said no.


    america is goddamn stupid.

    what happened to the american dream

    where did it all go wrong

    he's dead, man

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    VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    I don't know but it happens in the Lost World movie.

    Seemed to me like they were just eating them in the movie.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Dex Dynamo wrote: »
    jurassic park 2 asked america a simple question

    "can gymkata make a comeback?"

    america said no.


    america is goddamn stupid.

    what happened to the american dream

    It came true! You're lookin' at it!

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Oh, right.

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    It's funny watchmen is one of those things where they just copied the dialogue from the comic word for word in some instances, without any consideration to how it would sound being spoken and acted. Like shave some of the cheese off of those lines and they'd sound great, and maybe avoid redundant responses to clearly rhetorical questions

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I think most of Jeffrey Dean Morgan's performance is pretty great

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Watchmen has some good performances, and it has some legitimately great scenes (the opening credits montage is tremendous), but it mostly doesn't hang together as a film. It probably wasn't ever going to work great as a film, though.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    The bits the movie changed were pretty good. The bits the movie didn't were hit or miss.

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    existexist Registered User regular
    watchman is like a couple bits of diamond on a turd

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The bits the movie changed were pretty good. The bits the movie didn't were hit or miss.

    Ehhh. I wasn't a fan of the movie's approach to violence. Also giving the final line to Laurie was really weird.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Hey, you know what Jurassic Park: the Lost World gave us?

    A pretty kickass song for when raptors attack.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9rHcFXsI0

    Holy shit, this song is fuckin' proto Duel of the Fates. Start it at 1:10 and listen to it and tell me it ain't so.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Oh well, I'm a bit of a fan of the old ultraviolence. It didn't bother me. I can't even remember the last line, I think only remember the good bits. And the sex scene. Which was so bad it's good (intentionally, I think).

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The bits the movie changed were pretty good. The bits the movie didn't were hit or miss.
    The bits they changed were good?

    Like the part where an american Super-Weapon appears to blow up an American City and so the soviets decide to end the war against America?

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The bits the movie changed were pretty good. The bits the movie didn't were hit or miss.
    The bits they changed were good?

    Like the part where an american Super-Weapon appears to blow up an American City and so the soviets decide to end the war against America?
    This has been talked about to death before but...

    I like the movie's ending. The comic only blows up New York, the movie blows up several cities all over the globe. It makes it much more believable that the world would then band together. Whereas if there is no psychic infodump and it is just New York getting blown up then the Soviets aren't going to save the Americans out of anything except pity and one-up-manship.

    And "Dr. Manhattan" doing the deed is just much more efficient from a scriptwriter's perspective. The squid works better* in the comic where you can read it at your leisure and take all the details in.

    *but not well enough imo

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