And if you want to look at actual impacts specifically for a beef ban, just take a look at what happens when a mad cow case shows up somewhere and half the world bans imports from that country for a while
IMO my biggest failure this game was not being nearly proactive enough about keeping ties with Britain and Germany
I guess I just kind of assumed they were solid allies who would fall in line (just like IRL america)
The PM that I got on day, what, three? From Stilts about how the UK was fucking pissed at the US was like Christmas early
I did a little giggle when I found out that the West was divided
Why were they mad then? It was before my time
Probably when we let Russia get into Poland and I pointed out neither of them had actually confirmed I cared about NATO.
When really I was just a bit miffed that there wasn't really any re-course that let us protect that objective between how little info we got about others military movements and the fact the US didn't have a military leader for the first three days.
Stop throwing this in my face please ...
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Theodore Flooseveltproud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelodorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered Userregular
I'm pretty sure there were plenty more nonsensical things that happened in this game.
Lookin' at you, South "Watch the World Burn" Africa
it wasn't nonsensical! It had purpose
we were trying to affect the current geopolitical situation in very particular ways and I was personally RPing the "glimpse humanity's divine future" sort of fanatical diplomat-turned-prophet
enough so that I, ahem, declined to infect the entire UN in the endgame because I felt our control over Morpheus was not yet sufficient enough to lead you on the journey and Wake Ye From the Great Dream
And if you want to look at actual impacts specifically for a beef ban, just take a look at what happens when a mad cow case shows up somewhere and half the world bans imports from that country for a while
Nobody bans other countries from importing that meat
Nobody bans all countries from importing beef at all
This is what distinguished China's proposal from sanity. You wanted to shut down the entire trade, worldwide, instead of letting everyone set their own import policy. This was an extreme response orders of magnitude greater than unilateral import bans.
It was a great attempt to expand Chinese influence, by forcing Chinese domestic policy on everyone, but if you think it was a sound proposal you're outright wrong.
After that crazy Pokemon Phalla, I was super excited you signed up @Gizzy.
It sucks you got a role that wasn't a good fit for you, and your other responsibilities at the time.
But it all worked out. Heck, if you moved forces into Ukraine or Poland, the first day would have been WW3, against Overwhelming Russian forces !
Also, Remember when I suggested forces in Hawaii and Alaska? Man, They would have done nothing.
In the end... US VICTORY WAS ACHIEVED VIA PROJECTING OURSELVES AS A DETERRENCE AND HELPING WHERE WE COULD. WOO!
After that crazy Pokemon Phalla, I was super excited you signed up @Gizzy.
It sucks you got a role that wasn't a good fit for you, and your other responsibilities at the time.
But it all worked out. Heck, if you moved forces into Ukraine or Poland, the first day would have been WW3, against Overwhelming Russian forces !
Also, Remember when I suggested forces in Hawaii and Alaska? Man, They would have done nothing.
In the end... US VICTORY WAS ACHIEVED VIA PROJECTING OURSELVES AS A DETERRENCE AND HELPING WHERE WE COULD. WOO!
I was really disappointed I couldn't play. Usually vote close/day ends during working hours is manageable for me .. but with the end of the quarter it was rough. I did enjoy watching the game.
Just a little sad that I'm getting blamed for whatever shortfalls the USA had. I didn't put in orders Day 1-thankfully my team was able to fill in and put in orders to build infantry. I put in troop movement orders Day 2 and got replaced with time left to change those orders because I didn't want to let my team down. Now I feel like I let the team down anyways.
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A vegetarian Russian Chinese communist was teaching a class on Mao Tse-tung, a known atheist.
"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and ban beef and accept that it was the most highly-dangerous food the world has ever known, even more dangerous than Borscht!"
At this moment, a brave, patriotic, pro-beef Presidential champion who had served 1500 terms of office and understood the necessity of free trade and fully supported all military decision made by Obifett stood up and held up a burger
"How many lives are endangered by this burger, commie?" The arrogant professor smirked quite Russianly and smugly replied "4.6 billion people, you stupid Christian"
"Wrong. It’s been certified fresh by the USDA. If it was infected, and import bans, as you say, are needed… then I should be a zombie right now."
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of the Little Red Book. He stormed out of the room crying those Sino-Russian crocodile tears. The same tears Russians cry for the "Romanians" (who today live in such security that most are uninfected) when they jealously try to claw justly earned hegemony from the deserving world police. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, KetBra, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a sophist Chinese diplomat. He wished so much that he had a rocket to shoot himself into space, but it had already crashed!
The students applauded and all allied with America that day and accepted Jesus as their lord and savior. An eagle named "Force Projection" flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. The pledge of allegiance was read several times, and God himself showed up and expanded beef markets across the country.
The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He succumbed to the zombie plague Morpheus and raised China's infection level by 1.
Semper Fi
P.S. open the markets
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chiasaur11Never doubt a raccoon.Do you think it's trademarked?Registered Userregular
How have the last pages been posts upon posts about beef export legislation it's like the most tedious thing in the game
My fault. Sorry.
Err... in an attempt to move on, idle thought about a hypothetical smaller scale followup?
Set it all in one region of this map. No idea what happened in the rest of the world. Just you unhappy few factions all trying to survive in the Silent World, the only home you've ever known.
And then late game, someone shows up from outside. If you could somehow have that faction running off-board simultaneously, it could be more impressive, but that would cause so many headaches.
After that crazy Pokemon Phalla, I was super excited you signed up @Gizzy.
It sucks you got a role that wasn't a good fit for you, and your other responsibilities at the time.
But it all worked out. Heck, if you moved forces into Ukraine or Poland, the first day would have been WW3, against Overwhelming Russian forces !
Also, Remember when I suggested forces in Hawaii and Alaska? Man, They would have done nothing.
In the end... US VICTORY WAS ACHIEVED VIA PROJECTING OURSELVES AS A DETERRENCE AND HELPING WHERE WE COULD. WOO!
I was really disappointed I couldn't play. Usually vote close/day ends during working hours is manageable for me .. but with the end of the quarter it was rough. I did enjoy watching the game.
Just a little sad that I'm getting blamed for whatever shortfalls the USA had. I didn't put in orders Day 1-thankfully my team was able to fill in and put in orders to build infantry. I put in troop movement orders Day 2 and got replaced with time left to change those orders because I didn't want to let my team down. Now I feel like I let the team down anyways.
Nah, like I said, we were setup by the host to get involved in a big war that we'd lose. Non-action was a boon.
US survived. While we did well, we had plenty of shortfalls that our last active players can own.
You three are golden, and helped navigate us to the place we needed to be for others to take over, as far as I'm concerned.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
It is confirmed that Western America was infected because of an imported hamburger.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I'm really not sure why people thought I was that serious when I talked about "abridging mankind's universal right to hamburgers" but I'm committed now and will die upon this hill of beef
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BaidolI will hold him offEscape while you canRegistered Userregular
edited July 2015
Reading about the nefarious things other people were doing with their Agents makes me giggle because I had ours DJ a party spread across seven nations.
After that crazy Pokemon Phalla, I was super excited you signed up @Gizzy.
It sucks you got a role that wasn't a good fit for you, and your other responsibilities at the time.
But it all worked out. Heck, if you moved forces into Ukraine or Poland, the first day would have been WW3, against Overwhelming Russian forces !
Also, Remember when I suggested forces in Hawaii and Alaska? Man, They would have done nothing.
In the end... US VICTORY WAS ACHIEVED VIA PROJECTING OURSELVES AS A DETERRENCE AND HELPING WHERE WE COULD. WOO!
I was really disappointed I couldn't play. Usually vote close/day ends during working hours is manageable for me .. but with the end of the quarter it was rough. I did enjoy watching the game.
Just a little sad that I'm getting blamed for whatever shortfalls the USA had. I didn't put in orders Day 1-thankfully my team was able to fill in and put in orders to build infantry. I put in troop movement orders Day 2 and got replaced with time left to change those orders because I didn't want to let my team down. Now I feel like I let the team down anyways.
Nah, like I said, we were setup by the host to get involved in a big war that we'd lose. Non-action was a boon.
US survived. While we did well, we had plenty of shortfalls that our last active players can own.
You three are golden, and helped navigate us to the place we needed to be for others to take over, as far as I'm concerned.
Which isn't to mean you didn't put in troop orders.
It means, we didn't undergo the full machinations of military action of getting forces to Ukraine and Poland, like we were expected to day 1.
Meaning we didn't start the game publicly getting steam rolled. Our forces remained a mystery and we stopped a war.
A vegetarian Russian Chinese communist was teaching a class on Mao Tse-tung, a known atheist.
"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and ban beef and accept that it was the most highly-dangerous food the world has ever known, even more dangerous than Borscht!"
At this moment, a brave, patriotic, pro-beef Presidential champion who had served 1500 terms of office and understood the necessity of free trade and fully supported all military decision made by Obifett stood up and held up a burger
"How many lives are endangered by this burger, commie?" The arrogant professor smirked quite Russianly and smugly replied "4.6 billion people, you stupid Christian"
"Wrong. It’s been certified fresh by the USDA. If it was infected, and import bans, as you say, are needed… then I should be a zombie right now."
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of the Little Red Book. He stormed out of the room crying those Sino-Russian crocodile tears. The same tears Russians cry for the "Romanians" (who today live in such security that most are uninfected) when they jealously try to claw justly earned hegemony from the deserving world police. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, KetBra, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a sophist Chinese diplomat. He wished so much that he had a rocket to shoot himself into space, but it had already crashed!
The students applauded and all allied with America that day and accepted Jesus as their lord and savior. An eagle named "Force Projection" flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. The pledge of allegiance was read several times, and God himself showed up and expanded beef markets across the country.
The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He succumbed to the zombie plague Morpheus and raised China's infection level by 1.
Semper Fi
P.S. open the markets
These kinds of posts are why I was so happy to see you come in as the US president.
The economy was way too abstracted for other countries not buying beef to have an actual impact on us, if it did we would have made a bigger stink about it.
My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
After that crazy Pokemon Phalla, I was super excited you signed up @Gizzy.
It sucks you got a role that wasn't a good fit for you, and your other responsibilities at the time.
But it all worked out. Heck, if you moved forces into Ukraine or Poland, the first day would have been WW3, against Overwhelming Russian forces !
Also, Remember when I suggested forces in Hawaii and Alaska? Man, They would have done nothing.
In the end... US VICTORY WAS ACHIEVED VIA PROJECTING OURSELVES AS A DETERRENCE AND HELPING WHERE WE COULD. WOO!
I was really disappointed I couldn't play. Usually vote close/day ends during working hours is manageable for me .. but with the end of the quarter it was rough. I did enjoy watching the game.
Just a little sad that I'm getting blamed for whatever shortfalls the USA had. I didn't put in orders Day 1-thankfully my team was able to fill in and put in orders to build infantry. I put in troop movement orders Day 2 and got replaced with time left to change those orders because I didn't want to let my team down. Now I feel like I let the team down anyways.
Gizzy, you did what you could. Sometimes stuff happens and you can't do a role. Doesn't mean it's your fault or that you are responsible. It's just what happened. We started off behind a bit militarily but I've never thought that reflected badly on you or blamed you for it. It's just how it was.
In a game where we could be expected to know about and act upon complex knowledge of our own economies the beef ban would have been bang out of order but I don't think it was quite that in depth
IMO my biggest failure this game was not being nearly proactive enough about keeping ties with Britain and Germany
I guess I just kind of assumed they were solid allies who would fall in line (just like IRL america)
The PM that I got on day, what, three? From Stilts about how the UK was fucking pissed at the US was like Christmas early
I did a little giggle when I found out that the West was divided
Why were they mad then? It was before my time
Probably when we let Russia get into Poland and I pointed out neither of them had actually confirmed I cared about NATO.
When really I was just a bit miffed that there wasn't really any re-course that let us protect that objective between how little info we got about others military movements and the fact the US didn't have a military leader for the first three days.
Stop throwing this in my face please ...
Just to clarify, not in any way annoyed at you. Stuff happens, heck I stepped down too.
Just seeing people continually use it as some massive Russian triumph is... Kinda dumb considering the circumstances.
This thread has been awesome to read through, and incredibly inspiring! I'm already working on my own megagame-style disease survival game, though I'm starting to think I may have bitten off more than I can chew when it comes to scope.
I'm looking to make something a bit more mechanics-heavy, intended to work on a single nation level. I'm also splitting the roles a bit differently, based on a more "martial law" sort of government.
Predident - Controls distribution of information, resources and volunteers to the other leaders and is able to lay down edicts, such as curfews, mandatory conscription, food rationing etc
Civil authorities - Controls police forces, relief efforts and medical aid. Possibly also responsible for food
General - Controls conscription, training and deployment of troops
Scientist - Science stuff
Engineer - Responsible for constructing fortifications, refugee camps, new equipment and vehicles
I hope I manage to get it far enough to at least try it out with my friends. It might be cool, or it might be an unwieldy mess.
+1
Librarian's ghostLibrarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSporkRegistered Userregular
Not sure if I did too well as the UK PM.
I was sort of stuck between wanting to do stuff, but then becoming fiscally responsible and handing over all the dough to people with set game mechanics that consumed money.
If I had known how much science/military costed, perhaps I would've reserved some for 'secret PM business' and broadcast the Queen on TV using actual dosh and getting some -Terror effect.
But as I'm not around during peak player times and have no oversight over how science/military was spending the money, I had to keep delegating the spending and assume that any fanciful notions would need to be concocted by those awake.
Also I'm not generally active anyway.
I dunno, I felt disconnected from the action, and that may have been just down to time zones and the role I was given.
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Stop throwing this in my face please ...
Island Name: Felinefine
haha
you were, as always, a voice of reason
Nobody bans other countries from importing that meat
Nobody bans all countries from importing beef at all
This is what distinguished China's proposal from sanity. You wanted to shut down the entire trade, worldwide, instead of letting everyone set their own import policy. This was an extreme response orders of magnitude greater than unilateral import bans.
It was a great attempt to expand Chinese influence, by forcing Chinese domestic policy on everyone, but if you think it was a sound proposal you're outright wrong.
It sucks you got a role that wasn't a good fit for you, and your other responsibilities at the time.
But it all worked out. Heck, if you moved forces into Ukraine or Poland, the first day would have been WW3, against Overwhelming Russian forces !
Also, Remember when I suggested forces in Hawaii and Alaska? Man, They would have done nothing.
In the end... US VICTORY WAS ACHIEVED VIA PROJECTING OURSELVES AS A DETERRENCE AND HELPING WHERE WE COULD. WOO!
I, Lex Luthor, president of South Africa, find this to be laughable.
I was really disappointed I couldn't play. Usually vote close/day ends during working hours is manageable for me .. but with the end of the quarter it was rough. I did enjoy watching the game.
Just a little sad that I'm getting blamed for whatever shortfalls the USA had. I didn't put in orders Day 1-thankfully my team was able to fill in and put in orders to build infantry. I put in troop movement orders Day 2 and got replaced with time left to change those orders because I didn't want to let my team down. Now I feel like I let the team down anyways.
Island Name: Felinefine
"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and ban beef and accept that it was the most highly-dangerous food the world has ever known, even more dangerous than Borscht!"
At this moment, a brave, patriotic, pro-beef Presidential champion who had served 1500 terms of office and understood the necessity of free trade and fully supported all military decision made by Obifett stood up and held up a burger
"How many lives are endangered by this burger, commie?" The arrogant professor smirked quite Russianly and smugly replied "4.6 billion people, you stupid Christian"
"Wrong. It’s been certified fresh by the USDA. If it was infected, and import bans, as you say, are needed… then I should be a zombie right now."
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of the Little Red Book. He stormed out of the room crying those Sino-Russian crocodile tears. The same tears Russians cry for the "Romanians" (who today live in such security that most are uninfected) when they jealously try to claw justly earned hegemony from the deserving world police. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, KetBra, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a sophist Chinese diplomat. He wished so much that he had a rocket to shoot himself into space, but it had already crashed!
The students applauded and all allied with America that day and accepted Jesus as their lord and savior. An eagle named "Force Projection" flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. The pledge of allegiance was read several times, and God himself showed up and expanded beef markets across the country.
The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He succumbed to the zombie plague Morpheus and raised China's infection level by 1.
Semper Fi
P.S. open the markets
My fault. Sorry.
Err... in an attempt to move on, idle thought about a hypothetical smaller scale followup?
Set it all in one region of this map. No idea what happened in the rest of the world. Just you unhappy few factions all trying to survive in the Silent World, the only home you've ever known.
And then late game, someone shows up from outside. If you could somehow have that faction running off-board simultaneously, it could be more impressive, but that would cause so many headaches.
Why I fear the ocean.
Nah, like I said, we were setup by the host to get involved in a big war that we'd lose. Non-action was a boon.
US survived. While we did well, we had plenty of shortfalls that our last active players can own.
You three are golden, and helped navigate us to the place we needed to be for others to take over, as far as I'm concerned.
Not as well as Morocco, but who fucking could?
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When was this? I was told it was immigration, probably from the collapsing state on our border.
I feel like this is the best part of the thread
There's no beef in those
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Which isn't to mean you didn't put in troop orders.
It means, we didn't undergo the full machinations of military action of getting forces to Ukraine and Poland, like we were expected to day 1.
Meaning we didn't start the game publicly getting steam rolled. Our forces remained a mystery and we stopped a war.
These kinds of posts are why I was so happy to see you come in as the US president.
The economy was way too abstracted for other countries not buying beef to have an actual impact on us, if it did we would have made a bigger stink about it.
Gizzy, you did what you could. Sometimes stuff happens and you can't do a role. Doesn't mean it's your fault or that you are responsible. It's just what happened. We started off behind a bit militarily but I've never thought that reflected badly on you or blamed you for it. It's just how it was.
But didn't we all die in horrific explosion but no fire because its space but ka-BOOM! disaster? At least we had comradeship!
I really want to join a club that plays these.
I'd describe it as "up to personal interpretation"
Just to clarify, not in any way annoyed at you. Stuff happens, heck I stepped down too.
Just seeing people continually use it as some massive Russian triumph is... Kinda dumb considering the circumstances.
I reckon they got there and all died because the virus hitched a lift.
I'm looking to make something a bit more mechanics-heavy, intended to work on a single nation level. I'm also splitting the roles a bit differently, based on a more "martial law" sort of government.
Predident - Controls distribution of information, resources and volunteers to the other leaders and is able to lay down edicts, such as curfews, mandatory conscription, food rationing etc
Civil authorities - Controls police forces, relief efforts and medical aid. Possibly also responsible for food
General - Controls conscription, training and deployment of troops
Scientist - Science stuff
Engineer - Responsible for constructing fortifications, refugee camps, new equipment and vehicles
I hope I manage to get it far enough to at least try it out with my friends. It might be cool, or it might be an unwieldy mess.
Naw. We are cool up here.
They stopped by to ask to borrow a cup of sugar. It was awkward. But like sitcom awkward.
We only had brown sugar but it turns out they wanted white
Okay guys shut the thread down we are done here.
Not sure if I did too well as the UK PM.
I was sort of stuck between wanting to do stuff, but then becoming fiscally responsible and handing over all the dough to people with set game mechanics that consumed money.
If I had known how much science/military costed, perhaps I would've reserved some for 'secret PM business' and broadcast the Queen on TV using actual dosh and getting some -Terror effect.
But as I'm not around during peak player times and have no oversight over how science/military was spending the money, I had to keep delegating the spending and assume that any fanciful notions would need to be concocted by those awake.
Also I'm not generally active anyway.
I dunno, I felt disconnected from the action, and that may have been just down to time zones and the role I was given.
Still had tons of fun though.